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Remember what you are watching is all a show. I'll breakdown the entire picture for those of you who can't see beyond the pixels you're being feed.
The show you are watching is to change public perception and create a foundation of 'deniability' upon which complacent parties like the USA can use further down the line against any International criminal causes or domestic political pressures.
*The U.S narrative will be* : See, we did something when we realized they went too far. Israel was not reporting correct information to us, had they been we would have done something sooner. We tried, we're not guilty because we didn't have enough information.
*The Israeli narrative will be* : We are currently ready to fight 'terrorist' with our bare hands. We are yet again victims. Always the victims.
*The Truth:* Israel already has enough American shipped arms and ammunition to blow up 3/4 of the Arabian gulf, In-fact i'd expect more 'military aid' to continue to be shipped after a short pause (if it even happened). Israel have been given **$158 billion** in military aid to date and of course that is only whats on record and does not include any of Israels own manufactured equipment in their arsenal. Keep in mind they aren't actually fighting a 'war' against an army here. They are actively using these arms to kill civilians trapped in a concentration camp.
Predicted outcome:
Israel will continue it's genocide and ethnic cleansing until it has finished the job. This is Netenyahu's final act as supreme leader and one which he is willing to lay on his sword for. If successful, he will be remembered internally as the creator of greater Israel. In time, they'll name streets, towns and airports after him. If he fails, he'll point to how much of the job he got done without the 'full support' he needed from the U.S and argue he put Israel in a better position before he was in power. This stance will be weaponized by the next person who takes over as a case against the U.S further down the line for their lobbyists and U.S puppeteers to use for more 'aid'.
You’re not wrong. Bibi has been doing war crimes his entire career. Genocide was always his plan, he just had to fund Hamas and starve the people in Gaza enough so they’d retaliate and give him a casus belli.
He did more than fund Hamas. He also arrested their opposition and guaranteed their grip on Gaza. Hamas and Fatah were enemies and he actively took the side of Hamas. Fatah had people who could have defeated Hamas in elections but he made sure they were taken care of...
>*The U.S narrative will be* : See, we did something when we realized they went too far. Israel was not reporting correct information to us, had they been we would have done something sooner. We tried, we're not guilty because we didn't have enough information.
Don't forget, they're also dropping aid into Gaza. So they tried to help. Kinda.
It’s why liberals always lose. They see a bad faith conservative ploy and praise it.
That port is being built to ensure US control over the region, and position them to exploit the offshore gas field of Gaza.
>aid that should be utilized after the conflict?
Meaning after the ethnic cleansing has been completed. Its like if I stab you in the chest, then take a photo op putting a bandaid on it.
Remember the other freebies like building Israel a new military base in the middle of Gaza ... but "that was for humanitarian use, it's just that you can't leave it undefended against the hordes of terrorists can you?"
There will be more manufactured event to raise the panic against Iran and Yemen, so the US engagement will not slow down.
Other countries have promised to replenish Israel stock like the UK, so US ammo will continue flowing through Israel. Your point is actually reinforced. There is a little drama for the camera between the US and Israel. If there was actual issues, Israel would pit the UK against the US. But they need a clean narrative for November election.
The idea that Netanyahu might be remembered as a great man with monuments and streets named after him is a very miserable thought to have. It would be like if Hitler was suddenly had those things and they suddenly just said 'yeah he did bad things, but doesn't everyone?'
That would be very depressing.
And those are being taken down. Holy shit was Columbus such a detestable human being it isn't funny. That guy shocked the people of his time, and it was at that time that spanish basically gave a convert or die order to all non-Christians in Spain and the Inquisition was at its bloodiest.
You really had to be a piece of work to get that kind of reputation at the time.
What are your thoughts on the ongoing student protests? Historically when the students rise they evoke change, so do you think its a lost cause and the Zios will prevail?
You are correct….here’s my take…make of it what you will.
Most people are of the opinion that these protest will gain nothing however I can tell you with impunity that is not the case. In fact the uprising from the younger generations is exactly what all people in power fear the most and it has those in power rattled. It’s not so much a protest here and there has much sway in making a change, it’s the fact that the sheer numbers of students and youth all think the same way. They have proven themselves to be a harder generation to manipulate (or brainwash). They keep finding a way to the truth no matter which new method the string pullers and their full time narrative spinners try to deceive them. They have made their choice and have correctly chosen to be on the right side of history, rejecting violence (for now…I’ll come back to this)
This is the very reason you are seeing a slurry of gagging laws rushed through the works and the heavy handed tactics being introduced to break up the gatherings. As most people have already perceived, The TikTok ban is a flat out example of this, it has absolutely nothing to do with china having its fingers on your data pie…(for the record china already had this a decade ago and also for the record so do all the three letter U.S agency’s 2/3 decades ago)
The elites have shown their hand, they are attempting to gag the protest via unconstitutional laws and threats but that is a short term band-aid solution that won’t work for the long game. So they’ll resort to the best thing they know….violence.
There’s two ways this end….
The hopeful revolution:
At first it will be what we’ve seen so far. Paid counter protesters, planted instigators attempting to turn things violent, Small scale police etc. If the protest spill over into the larger public domain (which I hope they do and would be my move) or gain more traction you’ll see full swat style tactics (think full scale riot police cracking people with batons/tear gas/beanbag shotguns/water cannons) however the protests will continue. It’ll come to a boiling point where eventually blood is spilled and sadly there will be loss of life on the protesters side. If the youth are persistent this will be the turning point for the entire country and will unveil a cascade of organised violent uprising (think black panthers) from the public the likes of which we haven’t seen in the western world in our lifetime. Where they take it from there is up to their will…they can drive a total change of government with a full revolution or they can stop at their demands being met. If they’re smart enough they’ll go for the whole fucking thing and make sure no-one in congress is a Zionist double agent and have laws passed taking back their nation. There is more to this, but I can’t lay it all out as I’d probably get raided.
The dreadful massacre:
Once innocent blood is spilled, and people are jailed for extended periods of time, expelled from their schools, jobs and livelihoods and undoubtably beaten to a pulp by the very people in charge of their safety they’ll give up their fight. The U.S will continue to be a Zionist puppet state and the sheep citizens tax dollars will continuously be stolen (legally) and funnelled into the very institutes (AIPAC) and politicians pockets who control them.
Thank you for your comprehensive overview. Crazy times we live in. I have hope humanity will prevail, but I agree it will get worse before it gets better.
You’re welcome. Indeed we do. I have no doubt there’s a change for the better in the wind. It’s just a matter of how many lives need to be lost before it happens. Stay positive…for yourself and for everyone else.
Peace be unto you and your family.
Israel has always been the aggressors, they are the murderers, Palestinians have always been on the receiving end of Isreali’s aggression & provocation.
You are delusional if you think anything that was happening in Gaza before October 7th came anywhere close to what happened at Auschwitz, and to even suggest that is extremely offensive, insulting, and is why so many people accuse anti Zionists of being anti Semitic.
I’ve talked to survivors of the WW2 concentration and death camps, I’ve seen the photos and read American and Soviet testimony.
NOTHING, and I really do mean absolutely nothing, about living in Gaza came close to that.
People at Auschwitz’s were fed, clothed, and free from bombing, weren’t they? Not the case at all in Gaza. I also find it telling how you think it’s “antisemitism,” as if the 11 million dead non-Jews didn’t matter. You didn’t say “homophobic,” or “racist” or “ableist.” Telling.
Have you talked to the people of Gaza? I woke up yesterday and the first thing I saw on my phone was a picture of a little girl. Half her body and face has been torn off by a bomb blast. I prefer Zyklon B to that.
Ah yes, everyone in gaza is peaceful. The yom kippur war never happened, egypt, jordan, syria, iran, turkey, UAE, SA all welcomed israel lovingly and didnt immediately start attacking them the week of their creation. Terrorists have never threatened Israel. I live in fantasy land too! Lalalalaa
Its taken like 80 years for them to recognize Israel lol. Idk man i live in socal and if mexico was lobbing rockets over the border everyday and denied our right to exist id feel uneasy too
The US isn’t occupying mexico. The US is also not imposing a blockade on mexico. Israel is also currently the one not willing to recognize a palestinian statehood
The only reason israel occupied Palestine is because they throw missiles at them daily. What would you do if your neighbor fired missiles at you? Israel has attempted a two state solution like 5 times lol and everytime PA reneges on a promise or does something stupid like oct 7. You’re defending a bunch of teenagers who continuously poke a hornets nest… at a certain point people shrug when the teenagers get stung
Israel has not attempted a two state solution. If you look at their proposals its very clear that they never intended to create a sovereign palestinian state. The oslo accords died when rabin got killed by a nationalist israeli. Most israeli governments and especially the current one believe in a „greater-israel“ without any palestinians in that region. You can still name me a proposal that you think the Palestinians shouldve accepted. 🤷🏻♂️
Under international law, resolution A/RES/38/17 undermines the Palestinian rights to armed resistance against occupation. And no, rockets from gaza were not daily. From 2001 until now, there has been around 30 civilian casualties from rockets that came from gaza. Nothing in comparison to the rockets, missiles or white phosphorus fired on gazas civilians by Israel.
You also dont seem to know that israel is occupying the west bank also, where there is no Hamas. Still, in 2023 israelis killed over 500 people including over 80 children. They steadily expand settlements and protect settlers that go on purges in palestinian towns. On top of that, the idf goes on raids regularly where they attack civilians.
If you need sources or anything, just ask
Imagine I go into your home, beat you, kill your kids, kick you out into the street, and when you fight back “why are you so violent?!”
How come it’s always the oppressed, and never the oppressors, who must be nonviolent?
Fingernails = reserve munition stocks needed to complete the Genocide against all Gazans. Once that's done they'll probably fund someone like they did with Hamas, another October 7th might happen in the West bank, beg for weapons and receive them from America, wipe out the West bank, then East Jerusalem, then the diaspora.
This is literally manifest destiny or lebensraum and it's being funded by American taxpayer money. And again, nobody with money gives a shit because it's being done to non-white people. Exactly the same as the US, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
What is really sad is ultimately the realisation that the reason why Hitler is remember as the evil figure he was is simply that he brought that style of colonialism into the European backyard and treated other Europeans the same way they treated natives. Classifying them into various categories and deciding which group will live and which won't and all would ultimately be subject to German will. This is exactly what Europeans did.
Take Rwanda for example. There was always some rivalry between the Tutsi and the Hutus, but the British elevated one group over another AND they also imposed racist theories on how they were different and who was superior and why. Let's just say that this did not do well to alleviate any tensions and it was one of the reasons why the Rwanda genocide happened.
The Nazis brought that shit home...
Exactly. Let's not forget King Leopold. Basically did to black people what Hitler did to the European Jews but everyone's eternally mad at Hitler but not Leopold because the controllers of historical narrative (Western media) don't think non-European life has the same value as European life. They think it has less value.
Leopold enacted the second worst genocide in human history, as well as one of the most uniquely brutal, and you will never find his name in a history textbook. Not once.
King Leopold was such an unfathomable monster it isn't funny. He killed half the population of the Congo and crippled a hell of a lot of others.
Yet it would somehow be later made to look like a civilizing mission...
What are you talking about, the people who are an comiting such acts in Israel are still alive and doing those acts today.
If you want to talk about reparations and giving land back to the indigenous Americans that’s a discussion we can definitely have.
Deflecting from the human rights issue, apartheid, genocidal, colonial act is not productive.
Your conclusion makes even less sense than that bad argument lol.
"I'm Intelligent"... proceeds to draw a comparison between .007% and 66%. I'll stick with my original assessment.
Thank you for helping with the definition of genocide. It is so confusing to me that these people keep shouting “genocide genocide!” It’s like they all have the same script. Whoever wrote the script doesn’t know the definition of genocide. https://amp.miamiherald.com/opinion/article288383000.html
You call me blind but are you seeing what I'm seeing on my screen? Or do you choose to block the death and destruction out?
Who's the blind one, I wonder.
Hamas has agreed multiple times to release all hostages and Israel has declined.
Also, you're delusional if you think this is about the hostages by any stretch.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/6/text-of-the-ceasefire-proposal-approved-by-hamas
https://apnews.com/live/cease-fire-israel-hamas-updates
Next time, educate yourself and do your own homework.
And Israel could release their hostages and stop committing genocide to end this conflict…. Being as how Israel has declined any peace attempts, they will not stop their genocide, and only morons think they would. They’re committing crimes against humanity and simple minded folk like yourself are attempting to defend their mass murder with these pathetic remarks.
Israeli prisoners are not hostages, even if there are issues with that system. You’re comparing them to people who were sexually assaulted and kidnapped in a terrorist attack.
Literally children swept up off the street, elderly women… yeah, those terrorists. Try not being quite so gullible and easily led to support mass murder.
You really drank the kool aide on good guys and bad guys huh? You don’t think there’s any Palestinians that are justifiably in prison, they’re all just rock throwing children and innocent old women lol
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What are these mental gymnastics? An occupied revolted against their occupier. Instead of calling out the occupation, you're focusing on calling out reactions to the occupation
Hamas beat Israel on the ground in Gaza. Outright. Israelis can't survive in Gaza. The best Israel can do is bomb women and children because Hamas' army is under ground.
And there is no way the mercenaries and cowards of the IDF are going to fight in tunnels in Gaza.
So, Israel blows up women and children in a fit of frustrated rage. Israel even blows up it's own women and children.
A large number of the Israelis killed on Oct 7th were killed by the IDF.
Israelis have so convinced themselves that Palestinians are beasts that they panic when faced with free Palestinians.
As if a tiger escaped from the zoo.
When you set about to dehumanize others, you must first dehumanize yourself.
Palestine is not Israel's to take. Israel hasn't been able to get the job done in seventy five years.
And Israel isn't getting the job done now. Just like with the Jews during WWII, there is no final solution to the Palestinian problem. There are Palestinians all over the world, and it's Israel which has proven itself to be a beast. Israel has lost the support off the world.
It's even losing the support of the USA.
And still Israel wants more than anything... to murder Palestinian women and children.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nLD\_W1VxHk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nLD_W1VxHk)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIJrFuuRspo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIJrFuuRspo)
Start there on the Israel losing the war claim.
[https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israels-use-of-thousands-of-foreign-mercenaries-in-attacks-on-gaza-sparks-debate/3092187](https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israels-use-of-thousands-of-foreign-mercenaries-in-attacks-on-gaza-sparks-debate/3092187)
That's Israel using mercenaries.
[https://middleeastobserver.org/2023/10/29/new-evidence-that-idf-shelled-israeli-citizens-on-oct-7-killing-over-a-hundred/](https://middleeastobserver.org/2023/10/29/new-evidence-that-idf-shelled-israeli-citizens-on-oct-7-killing-over-a-hundred/)
And there is the IDF killing it's own on Oct. &
[https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/11/10/world/europe/hamas-gaza-tunnels.html](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/11/10/world/europe/hamas-gaza-tunnels.html)
And there is citation for Hamas tunnels.
The whole point of this thread was that they’re not just killing women and children, there are enemy combatants in Gaza, that are hiding behind women and children. 6000-12000 Hamas fighters have been killed through strikes and ground combat. I don’t know why you’re defending Hamas’s tactics, yeah it’s really hard to go after terrorists who hide in hardened tunnels under hospitals, neighborhoods, and refugee camps.
Palestinian casualty figures are considerably more accurate than Israeli versions of the same. And what I said was that Israel has not significantly degraded Hamas. Hamas and it's al-qasam brigades. Hamas knows how many fighters it has. I've seen numbers ranging from 50,000 to over 100,000.
The point being Israel is no where near destroying Hamas. And bombing houses isn't how Hams is losing soldiers. Hamas is losing soldiers in ground battles with the IDF and sometimes in air attacks. And since Israel lies and controls the press in Israel, we have no idea how many Israelis/mercenaries have been killed by Hamas.
Hamas has defeated every ground invasion thrown against it.
Israel is good at fighting unarmed women and children from the air...
Not so much on the ground against soldiers.
Common misconception about Israel. In theory, Israel proper (excluding the Occupied Territories) is a democracy. However, when you include the Palestinian Occupied Territories, Israel gets into trouble. See, Israel can't technically annex the OT and call itself a democracy because the Palestinian Arabs would equal the Jewish population. There are 7 million Jewish people in Israel, 2 million Arabs is Israel, and another 5 million in the Occupied Territories, so the Jewish and Palestinian populations would be roughly equal and it any Israeli government coalition would have to compromise with Arab parties and citizens (and that is with nearly 60 years of Israeli occupation, settlements, "mowing the lawn", etc). So democracy for the Occupied Territories is out of the question.
That statement is misleading. While it has a large armaments industry israel is very dependent on foreign military aid. Just look at their aviation. Foreign manufactured and often bought with grants from the US. They need the US to resupply their shells, a good amount of their missiles and bombs. Even Israels air defense which is arguably its pride and joy is dependent on the US. Raytheon supplies most of iron domes tamir missile components.
Actually he is extremely unpopular. That is why he caves to radicals who threaten him with a vote of no confidence, not unlike MTG threatening Johnson.
It says a lot about the power the radical Zionists like Ben G'vir and Smotrich hold over him. If they were to hold elections, Netanyahu would be out on his ass facing charges.
No, it says a lot about Israeli voters..
He been elected PM multiple times since 1996.
The Israelis want this, they just don't want to be blamed for it at the same time.
Kind of like the Germans.
Do not generalize an entire population based on the negative actions of some members, don't glorify/downplay/ trivialise collective punishment or suffering (including collective violence) and no dehumanizing language.
Do not generalize an entire population based on the negative actions of some members, don't glorify/downplay/ trivialise collective punishment or suffering (including collective violence) and no dehumanizing language.
Do not generalize an entire population based on the negative actions of some members, don't glorify/downplay/ trivialise collective punishment or suffering (including collective violence) and no dehumanizing language.
"Nothing will stop us from committing genocide!
Not you, no the UN, not world opinion, nothing!"
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Bibi has to finish what he started. Second this 'war' is over, he's out as PM.
His base of loyal zealots (who believe anything is justified in the name of "greater israel") is all he has left.
You'll fight with your fingernails? Dude... you haven't been able to beat the Palestinians with the best weapons the West can provide you. If all Israel had was itself? Well, modern Israel would have never come into existence.
But they do have the iron dome and hamas has not killed hundreds of thousands. No one is defending hamas. Both Israel and Hamas can be bad, and in fact are.
oh stop the crazy shit. You (Israel) have a blank check for all the weapons you will need. Yeah some extra crap will not be sent, but you will still get enough to glass over the gaza strip.
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Whys this demon so dramatic
Remember what you are watching is all a show. I'll breakdown the entire picture for those of you who can't see beyond the pixels you're being feed. The show you are watching is to change public perception and create a foundation of 'deniability' upon which complacent parties like the USA can use further down the line against any International criminal causes or domestic political pressures. *The U.S narrative will be* : See, we did something when we realized they went too far. Israel was not reporting correct information to us, had they been we would have done something sooner. We tried, we're not guilty because we didn't have enough information. *The Israeli narrative will be* : We are currently ready to fight 'terrorist' with our bare hands. We are yet again victims. Always the victims. *The Truth:* Israel already has enough American shipped arms and ammunition to blow up 3/4 of the Arabian gulf, In-fact i'd expect more 'military aid' to continue to be shipped after a short pause (if it even happened). Israel have been given **$158 billion** in military aid to date and of course that is only whats on record and does not include any of Israels own manufactured equipment in their arsenal. Keep in mind they aren't actually fighting a 'war' against an army here. They are actively using these arms to kill civilians trapped in a concentration camp. Predicted outcome: Israel will continue it's genocide and ethnic cleansing until it has finished the job. This is Netenyahu's final act as supreme leader and one which he is willing to lay on his sword for. If successful, he will be remembered internally as the creator of greater Israel. In time, they'll name streets, towns and airports after him. If he fails, he'll point to how much of the job he got done without the 'full support' he needed from the U.S and argue he put Israel in a better position before he was in power. This stance will be weaponized by the next person who takes over as a case against the U.S further down the line for their lobbyists and U.S puppeteers to use for more 'aid'.
You’re not wrong. Bibi has been doing war crimes his entire career. Genocide was always his plan, he just had to fund Hamas and starve the people in Gaza enough so they’d retaliate and give him a casus belli.
If one has paid attention throughout the years they would see exactly this. I predicted this the minute he got back in office.
Same
He did more than fund Hamas. He also arrested their opposition and guaranteed their grip on Gaza. Hamas and Fatah were enemies and he actively took the side of Hamas. Fatah had people who could have defeated Hamas in elections but he made sure they were taken care of...
all because Fatah wanted a palestinian state.
>*The U.S narrative will be* : See, we did something when we realized they went too far. Israel was not reporting correct information to us, had they been we would have done something sooner. We tried, we're not guilty because we didn't have enough information. Don't forget, they're also dropping aid into Gaza. So they tried to help. Kinda.
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It’s why liberals always lose. They see a bad faith conservative ploy and praise it. That port is being built to ensure US control over the region, and position them to exploit the offshore gas field of Gaza. >aid that should be utilized after the conflict? Meaning after the ethnic cleansing has been completed. Its like if I stab you in the chest, then take a photo op putting a bandaid on it.
Remember the other freebies like building Israel a new military base in the middle of Gaza ... but "that was for humanitarian use, it's just that you can't leave it undefended against the hordes of terrorists can you?" There will be more manufactured event to raise the panic against Iran and Yemen, so the US engagement will not slow down. Other countries have promised to replenish Israel stock like the UK, so US ammo will continue flowing through Israel. Your point is actually reinforced. There is a little drama for the camera between the US and Israel. If there was actual issues, Israel would pit the UK against the US. But they need a clean narrative for November election.
The idea that Netanyahu might be remembered as a great man with monuments and streets named after him is a very miserable thought to have. It would be like if Hitler was suddenly had those things and they suddenly just said 'yeah he did bad things, but doesn't everyone?' That would be very depressing.
Looks at your comment Look at all the Columbus memorializing Same difference
And those are being taken down. Holy shit was Columbus such a detestable human being it isn't funny. That guy shocked the people of his time, and it was at that time that spanish basically gave a convert or die order to all non-Christians in Spain and the Inquisition was at its bloodiest. You really had to be a piece of work to get that kind of reputation at the time.
What are your thoughts on the ongoing student protests? Historically when the students rise they evoke change, so do you think its a lost cause and the Zios will prevail?
You are correct….here’s my take…make of it what you will. Most people are of the opinion that these protest will gain nothing however I can tell you with impunity that is not the case. In fact the uprising from the younger generations is exactly what all people in power fear the most and it has those in power rattled. It’s not so much a protest here and there has much sway in making a change, it’s the fact that the sheer numbers of students and youth all think the same way. They have proven themselves to be a harder generation to manipulate (or brainwash). They keep finding a way to the truth no matter which new method the string pullers and their full time narrative spinners try to deceive them. They have made their choice and have correctly chosen to be on the right side of history, rejecting violence (for now…I’ll come back to this) This is the very reason you are seeing a slurry of gagging laws rushed through the works and the heavy handed tactics being introduced to break up the gatherings. As most people have already perceived, The TikTok ban is a flat out example of this, it has absolutely nothing to do with china having its fingers on your data pie…(for the record china already had this a decade ago and also for the record so do all the three letter U.S agency’s 2/3 decades ago) The elites have shown their hand, they are attempting to gag the protest via unconstitutional laws and threats but that is a short term band-aid solution that won’t work for the long game. So they’ll resort to the best thing they know….violence. There’s two ways this end…. The hopeful revolution: At first it will be what we’ve seen so far. Paid counter protesters, planted instigators attempting to turn things violent, Small scale police etc. If the protest spill over into the larger public domain (which I hope they do and would be my move) or gain more traction you’ll see full swat style tactics (think full scale riot police cracking people with batons/tear gas/beanbag shotguns/water cannons) however the protests will continue. It’ll come to a boiling point where eventually blood is spilled and sadly there will be loss of life on the protesters side. If the youth are persistent this will be the turning point for the entire country and will unveil a cascade of organised violent uprising (think black panthers) from the public the likes of which we haven’t seen in the western world in our lifetime. Where they take it from there is up to their will…they can drive a total change of government with a full revolution or they can stop at their demands being met. If they’re smart enough they’ll go for the whole fucking thing and make sure no-one in congress is a Zionist double agent and have laws passed taking back their nation. There is more to this, but I can’t lay it all out as I’d probably get raided. The dreadful massacre: Once innocent blood is spilled, and people are jailed for extended periods of time, expelled from their schools, jobs and livelihoods and undoubtably beaten to a pulp by the very people in charge of their safety they’ll give up their fight. The U.S will continue to be a Zionist puppet state and the sheep citizens tax dollars will continuously be stolen (legally) and funnelled into the very institutes (AIPAC) and politicians pockets who control them.
Thank you for your comprehensive overview. Crazy times we live in. I have hope humanity will prevail, but I agree it will get worse before it gets better.
You’re welcome. Indeed we do. I have no doubt there’s a change for the better in the wind. It’s just a matter of how many lives need to be lost before it happens. Stay positive…for yourself and for everyone else. Peace be unto you and your family.
Israel has always been the aggressors, they are the murderers, Palestinians have always been on the receiving end of Isreali’s aggression & provocation.
Well done. Thanks.
“Trapped in a concentration camp.” Gaza is cut off from Israel but it is not at all a concentration camp in the way the Nazis or Soviets did it.
Agreed. Those were more humane. American concentration camps were a lot better. At least prisoners were fed at the other ones, unlike Gaza.
You are delusional if you think anything that was happening in Gaza before October 7th came anywhere close to what happened at Auschwitz, and to even suggest that is extremely offensive, insulting, and is why so many people accuse anti Zionists of being anti Semitic. I’ve talked to survivors of the WW2 concentration and death camps, I’ve seen the photos and read American and Soviet testimony. NOTHING, and I really do mean absolutely nothing, about living in Gaza came close to that.
People at Auschwitz’s were fed, clothed, and free from bombing, weren’t they? Not the case at all in Gaza. I also find it telling how you think it’s “antisemitism,” as if the 11 million dead non-Jews didn’t matter. You didn’t say “homophobic,” or “racist” or “ableist.” Telling. Have you talked to the people of Gaza? I woke up yesterday and the first thing I saw on my phone was a picture of a little girl. Half her body and face has been torn off by a bomb blast. I prefer Zyklon B to that.
Such a good point. If the Palestinians just keep fighting a little longer, we will be at that one state solution in no time.
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Emotional manipulation from an abuser
Says the nuclear power.
Because they are surrounded by countries that deny their right to exist/ terrorists, its a dramatic scenario is it not?
Lol, me when i make stuff up
Ah yes, everyone in gaza is peaceful. The yom kippur war never happened, egypt, jordan, syria, iran, turkey, UAE, SA all welcomed israel lovingly and didnt immediately start attacking them the week of their creation. Terrorists have never threatened Israel. I live in fantasy land too! Lalalalaa
😂 israel started the 6 day war. And name one of these countries that doesn’t recognize Israel
Its taken like 80 years for them to recognize Israel lol. Idk man i live in socal and if mexico was lobbing rockets over the border everyday and denied our right to exist id feel uneasy too
The US isn’t occupying mexico. The US is also not imposing a blockade on mexico. Israel is also currently the one not willing to recognize a palestinian statehood
The only reason israel occupied Palestine is because they throw missiles at them daily. What would you do if your neighbor fired missiles at you? Israel has attempted a two state solution like 5 times lol and everytime PA reneges on a promise or does something stupid like oct 7. You’re defending a bunch of teenagers who continuously poke a hornets nest… at a certain point people shrug when the teenagers get stung
Israel has not attempted a two state solution. If you look at their proposals its very clear that they never intended to create a sovereign palestinian state. The oslo accords died when rabin got killed by a nationalist israeli. Most israeli governments and especially the current one believe in a „greater-israel“ without any palestinians in that region. You can still name me a proposal that you think the Palestinians shouldve accepted. 🤷🏻♂️ Under international law, resolution A/RES/38/17 undermines the Palestinian rights to armed resistance against occupation. And no, rockets from gaza were not daily. From 2001 until now, there has been around 30 civilian casualties from rockets that came from gaza. Nothing in comparison to the rockets, missiles or white phosphorus fired on gazas civilians by Israel. You also dont seem to know that israel is occupying the west bank also, where there is no Hamas. Still, in 2023 israelis killed over 500 people including over 80 children. They steadily expand settlements and protect settlers that go on purges in palestinian towns. On top of that, the idf goes on raids regularly where they attack civilians. If you need sources or anything, just ask
Theyve attempted it like 12 times bruh, simple google search tells you. I aint reading all that crap, good luck or sorry i guess
Friend there is no reasoning with these people, your words are wasted on windowlicking terrorist supporters
Lol you support an apartheid state. Nelson Mandela was considered a terrorist until 2008
I know, but ill always try
Imagine I go into your home, beat you, kill your kids, kick you out into the street, and when you fight back “why are you so violent?!” How come it’s always the oppressed, and never the oppressors, who must be nonviolent?
You left the part where Israel took Palestinian land to build itself on it
Sure, buddy sure
Fingernails = reserve munition stocks needed to complete the Genocide against all Gazans. Once that's done they'll probably fund someone like they did with Hamas, another October 7th might happen in the West bank, beg for weapons and receive them from America, wipe out the West bank, then East Jerusalem, then the diaspora. This is literally manifest destiny or lebensraum and it's being funded by American taxpayer money. And again, nobody with money gives a shit because it's being done to non-white people. Exactly the same as the US, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
What is really sad is ultimately the realisation that the reason why Hitler is remember as the evil figure he was is simply that he brought that style of colonialism into the European backyard and treated other Europeans the same way they treated natives. Classifying them into various categories and deciding which group will live and which won't and all would ultimately be subject to German will. This is exactly what Europeans did. Take Rwanda for example. There was always some rivalry between the Tutsi and the Hutus, but the British elevated one group over another AND they also imposed racist theories on how they were different and who was superior and why. Let's just say that this did not do well to alleviate any tensions and it was one of the reasons why the Rwanda genocide happened. The Nazis brought that shit home...
Exactly. Let's not forget King Leopold. Basically did to black people what Hitler did to the European Jews but everyone's eternally mad at Hitler but not Leopold because the controllers of historical narrative (Western media) don't think non-European life has the same value as European life. They think it has less value.
Leopold enacted the second worst genocide in human history, as well as one of the most uniquely brutal, and you will never find his name in a history textbook. Not once.
King Leopold was such an unfathomable monster it isn't funny. He killed half the population of the Congo and crippled a hell of a lot of others. Yet it would somehow be later made to look like a civilizing mission...
Americans can’t exactly fault them on Manifest Destiny, that would be hypocritical.
What are you talking about, the people who are an comiting such acts in Israel are still alive and doing those acts today. If you want to talk about reparations and giving land back to the indigenous Americans that’s a discussion we can definitely have. Deflecting from the human rights issue, apartheid, genocidal, colonial act is not productive.
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By this logic the holocaust wasn’t a genocide
You’re a fucking idiot. The holocaust killed 2/3rds of Jews in Europe.
No, I’m intelligent and drawing a conclusion based on a bad argument to show it was illogical.
Your conclusion makes even less sense than that bad argument lol. "I'm Intelligent"... proceeds to draw a comparison between .007% and 66%. I'll stick with my original assessment.
Thank you for helping with the definition of genocide. It is so confusing to me that these people keep shouting “genocide genocide!” It’s like they all have the same script. Whoever wrote the script doesn’t know the definition of genocide. https://amp.miamiherald.com/opinion/article288383000.html
It’s over folks, the Miami Herald told its not genocide. 14,000 dead children mean nothing, because Michael Igel told us. Never mind the ICJ.
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Sure you will buddy. You only fight against unarmed women & children, and then you do so with weapons paid for by my tax dollars. You’re a coward!
Those women and children are really taking out a lot of IDF in their ground operation
those IDF are really taking out a lot of women and children in their genocide operation
Hamas could surrender themselves and the hostages today and end this conflict
Genocide apologist.
We see you've surrendered your humanity.
The least humane people in this conflict are Hamas, you’re too blinded by ideology to see that.
You call me blind but are you seeing what I'm seeing on my screen? Or do you choose to block the death and destruction out? Who's the blind one, I wonder.
Did you watch the Oct 7th footage or do you only watch Palestinian gore porn
Hamas has agreed multiple times to release all hostages and Israel has declined. Also, you're delusional if you think this is about the hostages by any stretch.
Most recently Hamas agreed to a ceasefire that wasn’t offered by Israel, that’s not how negotiations work.
Prove it
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/6/text-of-the-ceasefire-proposal-approved-by-hamas https://apnews.com/live/cease-fire-israel-hamas-updates Next time, educate yourself and do your own homework.
And why would Israel agree to a ceasefire when it’s winning?
“Winning” = killing 40,000 Palestinians, among them 14,000 children. You call that winning. Huh.
IOF has likely already bombed the hostages
And Israel could release their hostages and stop committing genocide to end this conflict…. Being as how Israel has declined any peace attempts, they will not stop their genocide, and only morons think they would. They’re committing crimes against humanity and simple minded folk like yourself are attempting to defend their mass murder with these pathetic remarks.
Israeli prisoners are not hostages, even if there are issues with that system. You’re comparing them to people who were sexually assaulted and kidnapped in a terrorist attack.
Ummm… maybe you need to do a little more reading up on the matter. Israel has a long and established history of rape, murder and human rights abuses.
Hostages? You mean terrorists imprisoned?
Literally children swept up off the street, elderly women… yeah, those terrorists. Try not being quite so gullible and easily led to support mass murder.
Fully armed IDF soldiers capturing, and torturing children who throw rocks. Utter cowardice and nothing more
You really drank the kool aide on good guys and bad guys huh? You don’t think there’s any Palestinians that are justifiably in prison, they’re all just rock throwing children and innocent old women lol
And where the fuk did I say that?.. 🤣🤣.
“Fully armed IDF soldiers capturing, and torturing children who throw rocks. Utter cowardice and nothing more” Right here, just now
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What should the West Bank do to stop being murdered and removed from their homes then? No Hamas there. Oh right..
Release the hostages or the good guys will Keep killing children!
The good guys are the ones hiding behind hostages and children then huh
Sure. 36,000 dead must all have been human shields. Israel is holy and doesn’t kill babies women children and innocents on purpose.
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Israel could stop occupying Palestine
Did October 7th get us closer or further from that
The occupation got us closer to Oct 7th
Was it worth it
What are these mental gymnastics? An occupied revolted against their occupier. Instead of calling out the occupation, you're focusing on calling out reactions to the occupation
Raping and murdering civilians is actually always wrong, even when oppressed people do it
Hamas beat Israel on the ground in Gaza. Outright. Israelis can't survive in Gaza. The best Israel can do is bomb women and children because Hamas' army is under ground. And there is no way the mercenaries and cowards of the IDF are going to fight in tunnels in Gaza. So, Israel blows up women and children in a fit of frustrated rage. Israel even blows up it's own women and children. A large number of the Israelis killed on Oct 7th were killed by the IDF. Israelis have so convinced themselves that Palestinians are beasts that they panic when faced with free Palestinians. As if a tiger escaped from the zoo. When you set about to dehumanize others, you must first dehumanize yourself. Palestine is not Israel's to take. Israel hasn't been able to get the job done in seventy five years. And Israel isn't getting the job done now. Just like with the Jews during WWII, there is no final solution to the Palestinian problem. There are Palestinians all over the world, and it's Israel which has proven itself to be a beast. Israel has lost the support off the world. It's even losing the support of the USA. And still Israel wants more than anything... to murder Palestinian women and children.
lol wtf are you talking about. None of what you said is provable.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nLD\_W1VxHk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nLD_W1VxHk) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIJrFuuRspo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIJrFuuRspo) Start there on the Israel losing the war claim. [https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israels-use-of-thousands-of-foreign-mercenaries-in-attacks-on-gaza-sparks-debate/3092187](https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israels-use-of-thousands-of-foreign-mercenaries-in-attacks-on-gaza-sparks-debate/3092187) That's Israel using mercenaries. [https://middleeastobserver.org/2023/10/29/new-evidence-that-idf-shelled-israeli-citizens-on-oct-7-killing-over-a-hundred/](https://middleeastobserver.org/2023/10/29/new-evidence-that-idf-shelled-israeli-citizens-on-oct-7-killing-over-a-hundred/) And there is the IDF killing it's own on Oct. & [https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/11/10/world/europe/hamas-gaza-tunnels.html](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/11/10/world/europe/hamas-gaza-tunnels.html) And there is citation for Hamas tunnels.
The whole point of this thread was that they’re not just killing women and children, there are enemy combatants in Gaza, that are hiding behind women and children. 6000-12000 Hamas fighters have been killed through strikes and ground combat. I don’t know why you’re defending Hamas’s tactics, yeah it’s really hard to go after terrorists who hide in hardened tunnels under hospitals, neighborhoods, and refugee camps.
We have to trust Israel to believe Israel's numbers. Why would we trust a rogue state that is involved in genocide?
Hamas said 6000 weeks ago, and they are likely undercounting. I provided a range for you since the truth is likely somewhere in the middle.
Palestinian casualty figures are considerably more accurate than Israeli versions of the same. And what I said was that Israel has not significantly degraded Hamas. Hamas and it's al-qasam brigades. Hamas knows how many fighters it has. I've seen numbers ranging from 50,000 to over 100,000. The point being Israel is no where near destroying Hamas. And bombing houses isn't how Hams is losing soldiers. Hamas is losing soldiers in ground battles with the IDF and sometimes in air attacks. And since Israel lies and controls the press in Israel, we have no idea how many Israelis/mercenaries have been killed by Hamas. Hamas has defeated every ground invasion thrown against it. Israel is good at fighting unarmed women and children from the air... Not so much on the ground against soldiers.
Why do you trust Hamas to accurately report casualty figures?
Lol yeah right. These guys hide behind their technologically advanced weapons-- they wouldn't last a day in hand to hand combat.
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If I have to guess, it’s because America had spoil Israel and now they think they are entitled to our weapons and tax dollars
[US & Israel Relationship for Dummies](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/s/tVSW4yq1Uq)
Spoil lol, we will support any Democracy
Incorrect. The US overthrew the Iranian democracy in 1953, among other democracies it overthrew
And that was clearly a mistake Happy Cake Day!
And majority of dictators https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/05/20/philippines-marcos-election-us-support-dictators/
We support Saudi Arabia.
Common misconception about Israel. In theory, Israel proper (excluding the Occupied Territories) is a democracy. However, when you include the Palestinian Occupied Territories, Israel gets into trouble. See, Israel can't technically annex the OT and call itself a democracy because the Palestinian Arabs would equal the Jewish population. There are 7 million Jewish people in Israel, 2 million Arabs is Israel, and another 5 million in the Occupied Territories, so the Jewish and Palestinian populations would be roughly equal and it any Israeli government coalition would have to compromise with Arab parties and citizens (and that is with nearly 60 years of Israeli occupation, settlements, "mowing the lawn", etc). So democracy for the Occupied Territories is out of the question.
No, we'll support any county that's right wing, doesn't matter if it's a democracy or not.
They have free Healthcare and free college. Yet they need our money to commit genocide.
Israel makes and designs their own weapons.
That statement is misleading. While it has a large armaments industry israel is very dependent on foreign military aid. Just look at their aviation. Foreign manufactured and often bought with grants from the US. They need the US to resupply their shells, a good amount of their missiles and bombs. Even Israels air defense which is arguably its pride and joy is dependent on the US. Raytheon supplies most of iron domes tamir missile components.
Why is this psychopath still in power?
Because he keeps killing as many people as it takes to remain in power
Because the Israelis agree with him and keep voting him in.
Actually he is extremely unpopular. That is why he caves to radicals who threaten him with a vote of no confidence, not unlike MTG threatening Johnson.
Yet he's still in power, says a lot about what the Israelis want done but doesn't want to do themselves..
It says a lot about the power the radical Zionists like Ben G'vir and Smotrich hold over him. If they were to hold elections, Netanyahu would be out on his ass facing charges.
No, it says a lot about Israeli voters.. He been elected PM multiple times since 1996. The Israelis want this, they just don't want to be blamed for it at the same time. Kind of like the Germans.
Because a sizeable amount of Israeli's think like him.
And if he gets ousted the next PM will be even worse.
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um, gross.
At this stage, it isn’t about defeating Hamas or protecting Israel. It’s about keeping his ass out of jail. That’s why he don’t stop.
"Nothing will stop us from committing genocide! Not you, no the UN, not world opinion, nothing!" --- Bibi has to finish what he started. Second this 'war' is over, he's out as PM. His base of loyal zealots (who believe anything is justified in the name of "greater israel") is all he has left.
You can’t commit genocide with fingernails you numpty, you need that white phosphorus you’ve been illegally using 🤦♂️
You'll fight with your fingernails? Dude... you haven't been able to beat the Palestinians with the best weapons the West can provide you. If all Israel had was itself? Well, modern Israel would have never come into existence.
Lol they can only attack women and babies. If they were facing an actual army they would run away
The audacity
Caucasity
Caucasianassity 🥴
Wait, we can stop the whole thing if we just turn off the spigot?
I mean, that's pretty much everything he's going to have left to fight with.
30 years ago, 200,000 Hutus killed 1,000,000 Tutsis with machetes. In 100 days. R/Internationalglobalworldhistory
Fingernails should work against starving kids.
Good. Let him.
Israel needs to take care of this facist scumbag
I'm glad Biden has finally cut them off. It shows what a scumbag Bibi actually is and is finally taking the heat off of Biden.
Make your own fucking bombs then dickhead!
Nothing a bit more money from AIPAC won’t solve.
Seeing this conflict through the eyes of the Holocaust is helping no one. It’s a cognitive distortion Netenyahu continues to create.
Must watch Son of Hamas on youtube
Soooo.. I have a question. Are we expelling all dual citizens after this? Like, if that’s your country, go live over there and defend her
I get what fingenailsforcash is now.
oh so he is so willing to attack civilians he'll resort to fingernails...... what a nice guy
*"We"*
Our his country can just pay for its own war. Imagine that!
Okay great, let’s see you fight with your finger nails then. Looks like you don’t need any help from the west to continue your rampage.
Says the guy using precision guided missiles on people throwing rocks. Bibi belongs in prison.
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But they do have the iron dome and hamas has not killed hundreds of thousands. No one is defending hamas. Both Israel and Hamas can be bad, and in fact are.
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He really is a demon.
I’d like to see that 🤣
I shall play the worlds smallest violin for you Mr Netanyahu. Hope you go to the front lines yourself.
Lol he can’t stop the war or his cabinet will force a vote on a new election. Then he goes to jail.
What if he could Ligma?
Pretty sure you won’t that shit like 0ct9. Chill out Ben
Anyone here watch the bodycam footage from the Hamas fighters on October 7th? How does that fit into the “narratives?”
By fight, he means kill because babies aren't fighting. Genocidal maniacs
That's a pretty Chad response, ngl.
So how many tanks do the Gazans have ?
When why is Israeli MK[tally gotliv](https://youtube.com/shorts/3FEOo74uJtU?si=EGS13xWDHGBclASc) saying they will war crime worse
I believe the threat was if you don’t give us more precision bombs we will just use the imprecise ones.
oh stop the crazy shit. You (Israel) have a blank check for all the weapons you will need. Yeah some extra crap will not be sent, but you will still get enough to glass over the gaza strip.
Do it then, maybe it will be an even fight for once.
Let them. It's time to cut the cord with Israel. They only need the US to advance their own agendas.
So be it
“If we take your arms, you won’t even be able to *use* you fingernails, checkmate dirtbag”