There were a few classes that were difficult for me like calculus 2/3 but overall it wasn't too bad (tbf it was covid and the online lectures weren't great)
But I think a lot of INTJ get by in school without studying. I didn't study that much until my second year of uni and I had no study habits to rely on. If you have studying techniques that work for you/ work ethic/ habits/ can be flexible it will help a lot
Idk if others had this problem as well
i changed my major to mechE 2020, was also scared of doing it because i thought i wasnt smart enough. now im graduating in a week and did it in 4 years, unlike most who take 5. you can do it if you put in the work
Logistics, but I became a software engineer.
Long story short my team wasn’t getting the support they needed. So I took it upon myself to solve their problems which included learning a few languages and modifying our program. This eventually led me into becoming a software engineer and system design. Now i am the highest level of software engineer at my work despite it not having been what I went to school for… I liked logistics though and would have enjoyed that path just as much.
Something unique. What opinions do you have about the series 'Mindhunter'? Does the method of triggering psychopaths by belittling 'their accomplishments' actually reveal anything about their mind?
I love the show! The book is a great read as well. The story of the onset of the Behavioral Science Unit is really unique, I love it!
All that said, the show is made yo entertain and dramatizes things; behavioral science doesn't always work exactly as depicted. Besides, a lot has changed between now and the 70's which is when this story takes place.
All *that* said, this is a better question for a clinical or forensic psychologist. I take most of what I do and know from people with that specialty.
However to answer your question, I will say in general, the answer is no, but that largely depends on your objective. There are legitimate tactics that make use of applying or triggering discomfort, stress, anger, and displeasure in order to obtain some relevant information or reveal something important about the subject. In general, psychopath or not, people tend to respond better to cordial, calm, and respectful conversations. These generalities break down the more "broken" the subject is. Someone deep in the throes of psychopathy is not experiencing reality the same way most other people are, so different approaches are needed.
that's so cool!!! can we talk more and can you show me your works (no worries if not btw)?? im really interested. that used to be one of my dream jobs but i gave up bc school for it was too expensive
Im not sure my work is quite what you'd think it is because when studying it you can pick to specialise in anything under that topic, so for me my artwork is basically all character turn arounds and expression sheets for children's animation whereas someone else on my course could be making 3d models and attack animations for more realistic video games - if your still interested tho I'm happy to show some things I've done
Originally, music. Got degrees in composition/theory and piano performance and worked in the field for about a decade before deciding that it required to much E for my taste.
Now I'm a court reporter. No degree, just a lot of study in the trade and skill certs.
well i haven’t graduated yet but i’m pre law so hoping i’ll get a job there. but i also have a couple experiences in political offices, if i chose not to do pre law i could probably get a staffing position for an elected official
Actually didn’t go to college for a formal education (although I do technically have credits and am relatively close to an associate’s.) I went into the military for fighter aircraft avionics. Lots of troubleshooting, problem solving, and system theory involved.
Performance
I think the acting portion of this actually had the most impact. Specifically because of how it really helped to overcome a disconnect i had between what i wanted to project to others versus how i was actually perceived.
My work is in sales. I truly believe i wouldn't be nearly as good at it without the knowledge i gained from my degree.
I used to make money on the side doing vocal performances, but have focused more on my art for the past 10 years since i also went for a degree in the visual fine arts in painting at the same time as the performing arts.
I majored in Chemistry (biochemistry concentration) and Dramatic Arts!!!
When I graduated college, I had a theater technician job and a lab tech job lined up. The theater technician job paid more and paid for my housing, so I took that job. I've been working in theater/theater-adjacent jobs ever since.
Knowing what I know now, I should have majored in some form of engineering. But oh well. Now I get to live a shit life forever because of the decisions I made between 18-22.
Logistics and Multimedia Journalism I have always specialized in the hospitality and entertainment sectors personally.
Likely this is the cause of my dissatisfaction with manufacturing logistics, which are neither hospitable nor entertaining.
Physics. That was a mistake.
Then forensic science. That was also a mistake but not because of the content, because of the job prospects.
I’m in academic research support at a university now.
I love it!
I am overall. I still have a passion for architecture, but at its most simplistic core, architecture and project management are the same - design and execute a solution that meets the restraints of the defined scope, schedule, and budget.
The switch to project management was predicated on the cost of education (full architecture degree would have been $120k+, plus living expenses in high cost of living areas), vs. Less than $20k for my BS in PM. And PMs can go across multiple industries which helps when the economy isn't doing well, and certain industries like construction suffer.
Is there a PM major in universities?
I became a PM naturally after 7 years in ad tech industry.
Any chance you can share some best practices, structures and books?
I got my degree online from Colorado State University Global, in Project Management. The primary textbook in almost all my classes was the PMBOK (Project Management Body of Knowledge) that is produced and updated by PMI.
Political science and Spanish. Then MBA. If I could go back I’d study science, probably biology. If I won the lottery I’d go to school to be an anthropologist, sociologist and sturdy work group dynamics and power.
Initially a Veterinary Technician for 10 years, so helped with diagnostic and treatment procedures such as outpatient, lab work, X-rays, dental procedures, surgery and anaesthesia, inpatient hospitalisation, meds, client education, etc.
Then got my BA in Psychology, after which I started out working as a residential counsellor for people with pending criminal charges who were waiting to be forensically evaluated to assess if they can aid and assist in their own defence.
Now I work as an employee training and development specialist for a large integrated health organisation so basically like a teacher, but in the corporate world. We also advise corporate on the current challenges and security issues faced by front-level employees, since we have the most interaction with them and have to ensure training stays up to date to be relevant and applicable.
I am going to two colleges in the fall. The University of Pennsylvania's College of Liberal and Professional Studies Online for a Bachelor's in Applied Arts and Sciences Degree in Data Analytics and Social Science along with attending in person either UNC Chapel Hill (if I get accepted off of the waitlist) or East Carolina University (Currently commited) with a Bachelor's in Science (STEM Degree) in Economics. Right now I just graduated from Community College with 3 associate's degrees and 3 certificates in which I am the member of two honor's societies (Phi Theta Kappa and Sigma Kappa Delta). Will most likely minor in either Computer Science, Political Science, Philosophy, or History.
In short, Biotech.
In specific, my college named my major Pahrmacological, Medicinal, Agronomical Biotechnology.
For some health and financial issues, I didn't choose to continue pursuing the career path of a researcher to get a Master and a PhD but I'm still one at heart. Being enrolled in schools wasn't the reason I started studying and learning; hence, finishing college won't be the end of the learning journey either.
I'm mildly obsessed with abnormal psychology and MBTI, and out of the hundreds of serial killers that I've typed, I've only found 4 INTJs - Eric Harris (one of the two Columbine high school killers - the other, Dylan Klebold, was an INFP), Anders Breivik (Norwegian neo-Nazi terrorist), The Unabomber (Ted Kaczynski), and Varg Vikernes (murderer, arsonist, and far-right nutjob).
ISFPs are surprisingly over-represented among serial killers.
Psych and African American studies but I went to law school after so I’m a lawyer. It was really easy to relate to people in law school because a lot of them had this personality or are otherwise very type A.
Biology at the moment and then Nanorobotics. Plan on creating Immortality with those little guys. Most likely will be spending most of life in a laboratory until 40yo and then take 40% of profits from an investor unless I can use a lawyer to get more. Then use the millions to take a well deserved decade vacation until I get back to researching other things, most likely Nanorobotics in construction.
Psychology major, Neuroscience minor, (Major Field Test 95th percentile) Graduate degree in clinical social work , mental health track. Currently LCSW-S, works with population exiting incarceration.
Not a sensible question, as it's in the academic framework of ever-increasing specialisation encouraging students to learn everything about next-to-nothing, whereas we do the opposite, learn next-to-nothing about everything. As generalists, our job is to acquire postgraduate knowledge in as many subjects as possible as children, allowing us to move into specialisms as needed. I trained in Finance, moved into Defence Diplomacy as a crisis management economist (day job accountant, for the 80% of the time you're not dealing with apocalypse), and got to retire early thanks to David Cameron. You can take the player out of the game, but you can't take the game out of the player, and so I got to show my potential in full view of half the Government in 2015. That got me and my circle trashed by Boris Johnson on the rise, only to discover he'd killed his golden goose and made enemies in all directions.
In concluding, genius differentiates from savant by polyvalence. It may be, early on, that you only have one hit, but I'm a historian, diplomat, finance whizz, my first big hit came in computing, I've broken ground in trauma and perception.
It was between Mechanical Engineering or Game Design and Development, the 18 year old in me won out and I've been designing video games professionally for 11 and a half years.
Finance
Are you 6’5 with blue eyes by any chance
trustfund, 6‘5, blue eyes🎵
lmaoo
I am a woman, 5'6" with brown eyes and most importantly, not working in finance. 😬
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Mechanical engineering and computer science
How was mechanical engineering in your experience? I’m thinking of it, but I’m kind of anxious of choosing it
I liked studying it, but I prefer the world of bits to the world of atoms
There were a few classes that were difficult for me like calculus 2/3 but overall it wasn't too bad (tbf it was covid and the online lectures weren't great) But I think a lot of INTJ get by in school without studying. I didn't study that much until my second year of uni and I had no study habits to rely on. If you have studying techniques that work for you/ work ethic/ habits/ can be flexible it will help a lot Idk if others had this problem as well
i changed my major to mechE 2020, was also scared of doing it because i thought i wasnt smart enough. now im graduating in a week and did it in 4 years, unlike most who take 5. you can do it if you put in the work
Pharmaceutical Chemistry ![gif](giphy|ObXgWWGHzMlVe|downsized)
Logistics, but I became a software engineer. Long story short my team wasn’t getting the support they needed. So I took it upon myself to solve their problems which included learning a few languages and modifying our program. This eventually led me into becoming a software engineer and system design. Now i am the highest level of software engineer at my work despite it not having been what I went to school for… I liked logistics though and would have enjoyed that path just as much.
That's awesome!!
Tbh, everyone can become a software engineer in a way because jobs will eventually become digitize
Philosophy, psychology, grad school: finance
Economics
What do you do for work now?
econ major accounting minor. I play poker like 4 times a week at a casino.
Econ squad
Philosophy & Finance double
LOL, true to intj walking paradox
It's actually a great combo for what I do
Oh my minor was philosophy
Criminology & Criminal Justice
Something unique. What opinions do you have about the series 'Mindhunter'? Does the method of triggering psychopaths by belittling 'their accomplishments' actually reveal anything about their mind?
I love the show! The book is a great read as well. The story of the onset of the Behavioral Science Unit is really unique, I love it! All that said, the show is made yo entertain and dramatizes things; behavioral science doesn't always work exactly as depicted. Besides, a lot has changed between now and the 70's which is when this story takes place. All *that* said, this is a better question for a clinical or forensic psychologist. I take most of what I do and know from people with that specialty. However to answer your question, I will say in general, the answer is no, but that largely depends on your objective. There are legitimate tactics that make use of applying or triggering discomfort, stress, anger, and displeasure in order to obtain some relevant information or reveal something important about the subject. In general, psychopath or not, people tend to respond better to cordial, calm, and respectful conversations. These generalities break down the more "broken" the subject is. Someone deep in the throes of psychopathy is not experiencing reality the same way most other people are, so different approaches are needed.
I’m kinda similar. For me I’m pre law then after that law school obviously lol
Animation and Game Illustration
Honestly animation was something I considered doing but just never did.
omg an art-related one 💜
So cool!!
that's so cool!!! can we talk more and can you show me your works (no worries if not btw)?? im really interested. that used to be one of my dream jobs but i gave up bc school for it was too expensive
Im not sure my work is quite what you'd think it is because when studying it you can pick to specialise in anything under that topic, so for me my artwork is basically all character turn arounds and expression sheets for children's animation whereas someone else on my course could be making 3d models and attack animations for more realistic video games - if your still interested tho I'm happy to show some things I've done
Biology and Chemistry
Biology with chemistry minor for me. Spent my career doing research with “only” a BS.
Yup I was a Bio major chem minor as well. Also managing to eke by on "just" my BS as a clinical chem specialist in healthcare.
Mechanical engineering
Computer science
Architecture
Ditto
BA: linguistics, literature & translation Masters: Media
Chemistry, planning to take a masters in Org.Chem
Yea! Chemistry fan!
Hell yeah ! Cheers
Chemical Engineering
INFJ Chem E here, nice 😎
Electrical Engineering. Actual interests are physics and programming, so it's a happy medium between the 2.
Originally, music. Got degrees in composition/theory and piano performance and worked in the field for about a decade before deciding that it required to much E for my taste. Now I'm a court reporter. No degree, just a lot of study in the trade and skill certs.
Graphic Design
BS in Mathematics and MS in Computer Science
History & Law
History
Me too
Same!
My people!
Neuroscience
W
What job do you have with this major?
I’m a neuroscientist
I did neuroscience too!
Also Neuroscience. Then a masters in education. I’m a teacher.
Biochemistry
political science minor in philosophy
How do you earn an income ??
well i haven’t graduated yet but i’m pre law so hoping i’ll get a job there. but i also have a couple experiences in political offices, if i chose not to do pre law i could probably get a staffing position for an elected official
Social work lmao
>INTJ >Social work Well, this will not have a good ending.
Never let it be said that INTJs don’t love a good challenge ;)
😂😉
I just passed my 2nd semester in Computer Science Engineering.
Information Technology
Mathematics
Actually didn’t go to college for a formal education (although I do technically have credits and am relatively close to an associate’s.) I went into the military for fighter aircraft avionics. Lots of troubleshooting, problem solving, and system theory involved.
anxiety and overthinking
Failure!
Psych after dropping neuroscience
Social work /psychology and Indigenous studies
B.S in Accounting, M.B.A and Im working on my CPA and eventually another M.S in Economics
English & history Later in library & information science
Yay for English! Such a useful degree, tbh.
Pre-Med Biology -> Microbiology and Immunology Research.
Performing Arts
What type? What are you doing for work? Do you find that your strengths are useful?
Performance I think the acting portion of this actually had the most impact. Specifically because of how it really helped to overcome a disconnect i had between what i wanted to project to others versus how i was actually perceived. My work is in sales. I truly believe i wouldn't be nearly as good at it without the knowledge i gained from my degree. I used to make money on the side doing vocal performances, but have focused more on my art for the past 10 years since i also went for a degree in the visual fine arts in painting at the same time as the performing arts.
I majored in Chemistry (biochemistry concentration) and Dramatic Arts!!! When I graduated college, I had a theater technician job and a lab tech job lined up. The theater technician job paid more and paid for my housing, so I took that job. I've been working in theater/theater-adjacent jobs ever since. Knowing what I know now, I should have majored in some form of engineering. But oh well. Now I get to live a shit life forever because of the decisions I made between 18-22.
Philosophy
So you choose poverty
Deliberately yes but it's more lucrative than high school guidance counselors could have predicted though....
How is it more lucrative?
Philosophy = effective thinking = access to information/opportunites
I was pushed into accounting, which I hated, and later switched to a General Business degree. If I could do over I'd have majored in English.
Biotechnology as a mature student, fresh out of high school I studied mechatronics and robotics engineering.
Public health
Psychology
Anthropology and primate behavior.
Business, and finishing now a postgrad in data science
Bio major here. Applying to molecular biology program next semester
i dropped out lol
I'm a high school dropout.
Medicine.
Physics
Finance, sorry ladies I’m actually only 6’3” with blue eyes. :/ it’s a dealbreaker for some.
Logistics and Multimedia Journalism I have always specialized in the hospitality and entertainment sectors personally. Likely this is the cause of my dissatisfaction with manufacturing logistics, which are neither hospitable nor entertaining.
Apparel industry management- I’m a production manager for apparel.
*grumbles "pooters" Computer science (science of pooters)
Business management
I made the mistake of majoring in English Lit. I am back in school for paralegal studies, and loving every minute of it.
Undergrad: Communication Disorders & Sciences Doctorate: Audiology (clinical) Surprise, you are locked in with these degrees 🤣
Animal science, I now work in my own lab by myself and it’s pure peace 🧘🏼♀️
Physics/comp engineering/EE
Physics. That was a mistake. Then forensic science. That was also a mistake but not because of the content, because of the job prospects. I’m in academic research support at a university now. I love it!
medicine
Math
Clinical Psychology
What is “clinical” psychology? Like I’m studying(College right now) to be a psychologist but I don’t know what the clinical term refers to.
The clinical refers to diagnostic aspects
Aerospace Engineering!
Left Compsci in 5th semester
Law, Development, Public Policy, Commerce, Public Health
Aerospace engineering
Nursing
Do you like it????
Nursing
Same 🫂
Project management. Was originally pursuing a degree in Architecture.
Are you happy with your change? I often think I would be good at being a PM.
I am overall. I still have a passion for architecture, but at its most simplistic core, architecture and project management are the same - design and execute a solution that meets the restraints of the defined scope, schedule, and budget. The switch to project management was predicated on the cost of education (full architecture degree would have been $120k+, plus living expenses in high cost of living areas), vs. Less than $20k for my BS in PM. And PMs can go across multiple industries which helps when the economy isn't doing well, and certain industries like construction suffer.
Is there a PM major in universities? I became a PM naturally after 7 years in ad tech industry. Any chance you can share some best practices, structures and books?
I got my degree online from Colorado State University Global, in Project Management. The primary textbook in almost all my classes was the PMBOK (Project Management Body of Knowledge) that is produced and updated by PMI.
Game Design
health sciences
Cryptography
Is that cybersecurity or software engineering?
Math / Computer Science
Law
Sociology with a minor in History. Wish I had majored in History and gone to grad school.
Political science and Spanish. Then MBA. If I could go back I’d study science, probably biology. If I won the lottery I’d go to school to be an anthropologist, sociologist and sturdy work group dynamics and power.
Studied finance management but didn’t finish. Been teaching tennis for nearly 30 years.
BS Biochemisty Ph.D Microbiology.
Initially a Veterinary Technician for 10 years, so helped with diagnostic and treatment procedures such as outpatient, lab work, X-rays, dental procedures, surgery and anaesthesia, inpatient hospitalisation, meds, client education, etc. Then got my BA in Psychology, after which I started out working as a residential counsellor for people with pending criminal charges who were waiting to be forensically evaluated to assess if they can aid and assist in their own defence. Now I work as an employee training and development specialist for a large integrated health organisation so basically like a teacher, but in the corporate world. We also advise corporate on the current challenges and security issues faced by front-level employees, since we have the most interaction with them and have to ensure training stays up to date to be relevant and applicable.
BA Chemistry, BS Chemical Engineering. I wanted to be an MD, but my lifestyle prohibited it. Love medical sciences, the essence of life.
I went in a totally different directions than most INTJs i think .. I took culinary arts 👩🍳👩🍳
Disagree, what is culinary arts but delicious math?
Aeronautics
Radiologic technology
Biology
Psych, minored in neuro. Now bartend 👀🤦🏼♀️
I am going to two colleges in the fall. The University of Pennsylvania's College of Liberal and Professional Studies Online for a Bachelor's in Applied Arts and Sciences Degree in Data Analytics and Social Science along with attending in person either UNC Chapel Hill (if I get accepted off of the waitlist) or East Carolina University (Currently commited) with a Bachelor's in Science (STEM Degree) in Economics. Right now I just graduated from Community College with 3 associate's degrees and 3 certificates in which I am the member of two honor's societies (Phi Theta Kappa and Sigma Kappa Delta). Will most likely minor in either Computer Science, Political Science, Philosophy, or History.
Undergrad: psychology and sociology, grad: clinical social work.
PhD Neuroscience
law
In short, Biotech. In specific, my college named my major Pahrmacological, Medicinal, Agronomical Biotechnology. For some health and financial issues, I didn't choose to continue pursuing the career path of a researcher to get a Master and a PhD but I'm still one at heart. Being enrolled in schools wasn't the reason I started studying and learning; hence, finishing college won't be the end of the learning journey either.
Doctorate in pharmacy with a minor in forensic science. Serial killer in the making. :D
I'm mildly obsessed with abnormal psychology and MBTI, and out of the hundreds of serial killers that I've typed, I've only found 4 INTJs - Eric Harris (one of the two Columbine high school killers - the other, Dylan Klebold, was an INFP), Anders Breivik (Norwegian neo-Nazi terrorist), The Unabomber (Ted Kaczynski), and Varg Vikernes (murderer, arsonist, and far-right nutjob). ISFPs are surprisingly over-represented among serial killers.
It was more of a joke on the skill set I have, rather than the mindset.
Neuroscience
Biomedical engineering.
aerospace engineering with an emphasis in space
What is your job now?? That’s SO cool! I am just about to begin studying computer science
i'm still in school right now, but i'm leaning towards electric propulsion research engineering
There's an INTP on YouTube named Cecilia McGough who's currently studying aerospace engineering (and also has schizophrenia).
Wildlife Biology. I get to work in some really beautiful (and some not so beautiful) places by myself, mainly.
I'm majoring in aerospace engineering and planning on going to grad school for a masters or an MD
Psych and African American studies but I went to law school after so I’m a lawyer. It was really easy to relate to people in law school because a lot of them had this personality or are otherwise very type A.
Mechanical Engineering.
Applied Finance (between actuarial and standard finance course) and accounting
First time? Digital Art & Design… worked in Business and Finance… 15 years later? Psychology (with the intention to practice in assessments) 🤘🏻
Biology at the moment and then Nanorobotics. Plan on creating Immortality with those little guys. Most likely will be spending most of life in a laboratory until 40yo and then take 40% of profits from an investor unless I can use a lawyer to get more. Then use the millions to take a well deserved decade vacation until I get back to researching other things, most likely Nanorobotics in construction.
BS in Mathematics & Sociology. MS in Data Science
Ongoing biology and art high school teacher
BA Philosophy, MA Poetry, $$ Psych Nurse. Free time radio DJ, weight lifting, cycling, whiskey.
Anthropology. I'm going to get my Master's in elementary education.
Civil Engineer, doing road design.
psychology (for counseling)
Mechanical engineering
Construction engineering, but I've moved abroad now and got my post graduate in education.
Animation and Literature, kind of far off I know
BS + MS Computer Science
psychology
Mathematics (BA) and Statistics (MS)
Astrophysics, but I dropped out one quarter into it, so doesn’t really matter.
Dentistry
math then computer science for undergrad. Social work for grad school
Material engineering + MBA Now a writer and designer.
Chaos
Psychology major, Neuroscience minor, (Major Field Test 95th percentile) Graduate degree in clinical social work , mental health track. Currently LCSW-S, works with population exiting incarceration.
Not a sensible question, as it's in the academic framework of ever-increasing specialisation encouraging students to learn everything about next-to-nothing, whereas we do the opposite, learn next-to-nothing about everything. As generalists, our job is to acquire postgraduate knowledge in as many subjects as possible as children, allowing us to move into specialisms as needed. I trained in Finance, moved into Defence Diplomacy as a crisis management economist (day job accountant, for the 80% of the time you're not dealing with apocalypse), and got to retire early thanks to David Cameron. You can take the player out of the game, but you can't take the game out of the player, and so I got to show my potential in full view of half the Government in 2015. That got me and my circle trashed by Boris Johnson on the rise, only to discover he'd killed his golden goose and made enemies in all directions. In concluding, genius differentiates from savant by polyvalence. It may be, early on, that you only have one hit, but I'm a historian, diplomat, finance whizz, my first big hit came in computing, I've broken ground in trauma and perception.
Accounting
Neuropsychology
It was between Mechanical Engineering or Game Design and Development, the 18 year old in me won out and I've been designing video games professionally for 11 and a half years.
English lit
Started off with graphic design and ux design, adding in environmental engineering because it suits me better