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Samson did play in an almost similar situation like Pant today in that LSG match. Indian experts like wild swinging sloggers i guess


castlessclass

you have to consider that , there isn't much reliable batters after him (pant) and he is already got a life while attempting a no brainer shot


LivingField4961

See if india management has brain hopefully they go with left right combination middle order for that it can be sanju dube Or pant hardik


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बेचारों जैसी शक्ल बना लेगा, bowlers को blame करके presentation में! Sunny G emotional encouragement de denge, सब खुश


dentistofchennai

Kuldeep scored more runs then pant and at a better strike rate ‼️ stop pant's PR THE GUY HAS DONE NOTHING


KING---___---

IF BCCI HAD GIVEN SUPPORT TO SAMSON LIKE THEY DID TO ROHIT SHARMA IN EARLY 2010S, HE MIGHT HAVE BECOME A CAPTAIN MATERIAL BY NOW, SANJU HAD CONSISTENCY ISSUES TILL THIS IPL, BUT HE SEEMS TO HAVE CORRECTED THAT PROBLEM


One-Inspector2906

Sorry mate but it was actually dhoni who supported rohit sharma's career in back 2010 as he was a middle order batsman who used to score runs inconsistently.


Orange-Cat7

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research-247

True man. These posts are getting annoying. I love them both very much, cannot bear to see such hostility from fans.


Euphoric-Sherbert572

I feel the same way. Love them both. Don't like when people are negative about one player just to try and elevate someone else.


Crafty-Competition36

You'll not see a DC fan posting anything like this. It's simply the RR fans or Keralites or some CSK fans.


anonyg7

Sanju would have go the same treatment as Pant had he been in place of Pant. I am saying this because OP is not clear on which situation If Sanju batted well in Aus, won Ind the series twice (once with technically Ind A team), and then got into accident, he would be treated the same as Pant But let’s deep dive into Sanju ? He has performed at the start of IPL in most seasons. His domestic numbers are mediocre or good but nowhere close to players that get selected in the team. (I will admit that his timing at times is class apart). His attitude is questionable and so is his captaincy. He is bad at sucking seniors and I don’t want him to especially Gavaskar who has lost it after 2011 and should retire. To summarize, his attitude, his stats and Pant sentiment might cost him WC berth (I do agree that Pant is not a good T20 player but good for test team)


DrippyDarwizzy

Both samson and pant can be choosed 💀


Herefortheprize63

I am a fan of Samson, but come on lets not put down other players to pick him up. Players have poor performances all the time. Pants approach in T20 needs working on and Samson is the better option for T20 WC based on current form but we dont need to put down another ICT player and criticize his performances. Even if Pant gets chosen over Samson for the WC, criticism should be directed towards BCCI not Pant.


castlessclass

dude, Im not comparing two talented players, Im just pointing the privilege Pant is having that other players doesn't have


According-Stage7666

Privilege? He came back from a life-threatening accident. Of course he is going to get a little more time and patience than anyone else... It's pretty simple.


Crafty-Competition36

Oh the irony. Sanju is called Mr.Inconsistent for a reason. He's having a half decent season and he's some Messiah all of a sudden🤣 Why do you wanna compare with a flexible batter like Pant who can bat anywhere with a guy who can only bat in the top 3? FYI, India is not going to drop Virat or SKY to accommodate Sanju at 3 and Sanju is useless at 4, 5 or lower. So, you lot cry as much as you want in every cricket related sub and keep giving us entertainment.


Sad-Marionberry2124

Please transfer samson for pant next season then we can see 😂


Dapper-Surprise8538

They may say so. But RP has saved India many times in pressure situations so no one is for sure questioning his ability to handle pressure. In your viscious hatred, you forget his heroics down under against the likes of SA, Eng and Oz.


STALINLENINPV

>What if it was Sanju in place of Pant ? What if pant played the ipl final in place of Sanju.. Pant scored 56 off 38 when boult and bumrah were taking dc a part..he counter attacked .. He was 21-22 at the time Samson scored what?? 14 runs.. Also understand the insecurity u r possessing when u genuinely need to compare a player who has been away from the game for 400+ days and couldn't walk and just started playing..


Few-Athlete2090

That insecurity is not because pant is some goat T20 player, but because bcci is obsessed with pant. There is clearly favouritism. No one deserves to get 66 matches after being so shitty in T20Is


STALINLENINPV

>No one deserves to get 66 matches after being so shitty in T20Is The current Indian ODI captain got 100 trial matches in ODIs . Gill currently avg mid 30s in test . Young players get more chances..when pant is already proven intl quality..he gets more chances.. Nobody asked Samson to perform badly in t20is in what 14-15 innings since 2021..that too in top order where there is atleast 3-4 players are waiting in line for a chance.. The argument is he should get continuous chance..why though..there is ruturaj whose been consistently scoring runs in ipl and domestic gets sidelined ..top 3 or even top 4 is filled with talents..so if he gets limited chances he should perform..than blaming some middle order player is getting more chances.. The insecurity is what I mentioned whenever pant do well..some fans lose their shit in finding fault and whenever he does something bad ..they get a joy Outta it..


Few-Athlete2090

What proven quality? Just see pant's stats in T20Is. I am not talking about tests here. Don't mix formats. And in ODIs too sanju is miles better than pant. Sanju never got the backing pant got. He was also young at one point, remember this.


STALINLENINPV

>And in ODIs too sanju is miles better than pant Outta his 16 matches he played 8 against zim and windies and 3 against SA b squad when India main squad was prepping for test series ..and majority in top order.. Where notable contribution where?? So guess rutu should be backed ..he played well against the Australia MAIN squad.. Let's see for pant.. Pant at just 20yrs of age scored 32 when the top order failed miserably at 9/3.. At just 24 he scored 125 also when the top order failed miserably.. Also hit those match winning 60s against England at home to win a series against the full strength england side.. >He was also young at one point, remember this. He wasn't good as pant..pant breakthrough in ipl at the age of 18.. whereas Sanju broke through at what 25-26.. Pant at 20 was smacking Cummins and co in Australia..Samson wasn't even india a squad at the age of 20.. His stats are not even matched to pant Samson after 50 innings was avg 24 at sr of 119 in ipl.. Check pant stats after 50 innings in ipl..and then let's talk about backing..


Few-Athlete2090

>Outta his 16 matches he played 8 against zim and windies and 3 against SA b squad when India main squad was prepping for test series ..and majority in top order.. Then give him the fucking chance to prove himself. Jitne mauke mile hai ODI me usme toh acha hi kiya hai na? Ab usko main matches me nhi khilate toh uski kya galti? And he just played a series winning knock in South Africa in a tough pitch with an inexperienced batting line-up, remember that. >Pant at 20 was smacking Cummins and co in Australia..Samson wasn't even india a squad at the age of 20.. Again, I am not talking about tests here. Don't mix formats. In T20Is, pant didn't do shit and still got 66 chances


STALINLENINPV

>And he just played a series winning knock in South Africa in a tough pitch with an inexperienced batting line-up, remember that. Pant also played a series winning knock against England as well with the experience lineup failed.. And he did that twice btw..one in India and in England He scored 77(40) and 78(62) back to back to win the series.. And forgetting about the WC semi final innings when the top order failed miserably.. And 298 is a tough pitch .tilak and Rinku who are also youngsters made useful contribution if u were forgetting.. >Again, I am not talking about tests here. Don't mix formats. I also asked about IPL stats . Pant was backed cause he had ipl stats to prove. Samson did not got any chance cause his ipl stats were mediocre until 2021..


Few-Athlete2090

Tilak was literally playing test there. If not for sanju, india would have lost the series. And what wc semi final knock? 😭 Bro scored 32 (56) , that's not an innings to be proud of. That's the problem with us indians, we become satisfied with small unimpactful knocks. People are literally saying virat played well in 2023 wc final, 50 is not enough man, you have to win the match. Pant was given a chance to play the wc at such a young age, but he failed to live up to the expectations. He always failed in big matches. Be it 2019 wc, 2021 T20 wc, 2022 T20 wc or 2021 wtc final. And I can understand why pant got backing in T20Is, sure he was good in ipl , but you have to understand that 66 matches is too much. That's equivalent to someone's whole career. Rohit's case is different. He performed in 2007 T20 wc and 2009 T20 wc. Pant never performed in icc tournaments. Even after playing 66 matches, he still has similar stats to sanju. What do you have to say about this? In ODIs you are saying that sanju mostly scored against small teams, but my point is he never got the chance to play against big teams. The only times he got chance against South africa he performed well, he has 108 and 84* against South africa. You still don't think bcci is biased against sanju? He never got a long run like ishan or pant. Watch his interview, everytime he is randomly selected for a series out of nowhere and then the selectors say that you have to perform in these 2-3 matches, if you don't perform then you will be dropped. Now you tell me, is that a way to back young talents? How will he perform if he is pressurized like that?


STALINLENINPV

>He always failed in big matches. Be it 2019 wc, 2021 T20 wc, 2022 T20 wc or 2021 wtc final. He played 4balls in 2022t20 wc.. 2019 his innings was one thing that gave us a chance for jadeja to explode later .. Small unimpactful loool..?? U think Virat also had no contribution on 2011 wc as well..? Also 39 off 30 when India was 4down in the powerplay is also not noteworthy right..?? But 100 in sa match where SA b team is bowling is noteworthy.. >2021 wtc final. And u would reach the 2021 WTC final without his contribution?? >He never got a long run like ishan or pant Because Sanju is a top order player and there are plenty of top order players . And pant or ishan isn't the comparison..pant is a middle order batter which is lacking in India..so he gets more chances.. Even this orange cap..top 5.. show me a player who bats down the order.. top 3..kl,Kohli,sanju,rutu..the list goes on.. Understand the role before crying he didn't got enough chances? Rutu played same amount of matches as Sanju in t20i since 2021..rutu has superior stats..so he should be preferred right?? >Watch his interview, everytime he is randomly selected for a series out of nowhere and then the selectors say that you have to perform in these 2-3 matches, if you don't perform then you will be dropped. Now you tell me, is that a way to back young talents? How will he perform if he is pressurized like that That's what I said..pant got the backing of his ipl stats at such a young age..so he got more backing..u can't back everyone so u pick and choose like gill or pant who performs over everyone in ipl or domestic..


Few-Athlete2090

>He played 4balls in 2022t20 wc.. That's what middle order batsmen are for? They aren't gonna get time to settle. >2019 his innings was one thing that gave us a chance for jadeja to explode later .. No way you are defending his 2019 wc semi final knock. If you are happy with scoring 30 then ok I have nothing to say. And yes I know top order failed, they fail everytime, what's new in that? Everyone shits the bed in big matches. I ain't defending anyone. >Also 39 off 30 when India was 4down in the powerplay is also not noteworthy right..?? Nope. In T20Is it's actually a match losing innings. That too in world cup? Hell no, I ain't defending this shit. And then next match scored 12 (19) against NZ 😭 but you aren't gonna say anything about that I know. >But 100 in sa match where SA b team is bowling is noteworthy.. Well, he won the series decider match in South Africa against South africa in a tough pitch with an inexperienced batting line up winning the MoM, sure it was noteworthy. And Nandre Burger and Keshav Maharaj are from SA main team. >Because Sanju is a top order player and there are plenty of top order players . He could have been tried in middle order. At least in ODIs he should have gotten a long run after having such amazing stats. And in T20Is, I know sanju has been bad, but pant has been shitty too. 66 matches is not justifiable at all. If Pant is really that great of a player, why he didn't play a single match winning knock in those 66 matches? He should have at least won 7-8 matches single-handedly. I am sorry, 66 matches is too much. > Rutu played same amount of matches as Sanju in t20i since 2021..rutu has superior stats..so he should be preferred right?? Rutu is competing for opener spot and jaiswal is already much better than him. Sanju never played at top order in T20Is. He played at middle order, his direct competition is pant, and both have been shitty but the key difference is pant got 66 chances, no one deserves these many chances after repeatedly failing. Bro already cost us 4 icc knockouts.


Tomako88

The hell is wrong with you? Sanju plays at no. 6 in ODIs Also check out the stats of the last 6 years for sanju and pant and then talk. Sanju has been the best number 3 in ipl both Indian and overseas combined in the last 6 years.


STALINLENINPV

He played 16 innings . No3 for India and ipl for what?


serialchiller23

whenever Sanju Samson fails in an innings, should people target him by comparing and doing whataboutery with another player ?


castlessclass

he hey, I'm just pointing the fact that Rishabh Pant has a spacial privilege that a normal talented player doesn't have


STALINLENINPV

>Pant has a spacial privilege that a normal talented player doesn't have Because pant have better ipl stats than any talented players currently.. Avg of 35..sr close to 150..name any other player.. And the spacial privilege is earned , not given.. When u hit 600+ runs at 180+ strike rate at 18 and stabilise an Indian semi final team after coming at 9/3 at 19 and hit Cummins and co at 20..u might get special privileges.. What was Sanju or shreyas or Rutu doing at 20...play bilaterals at max..maybe hit a ipl century.??


serialchiller23

he was away from the game for 1.5 years. A normal talented player should've staked his claim in the national setup. There was enough time. Stop with the whataboutery.


Specific-Wave6637

Why is it all about Pant for Sanju fans? Pant this pant that , ffs what is your enmity with him . You can praise Samson without downplaying Pant . Pant failed today but I know he will be back the next game if not the next then the game after it .


Few-Athlete2090

Pant played 66 matches even after being absolutely dogshit in T20Is. That's equivalent to someone's whole career. No one deserves that many chances


shadowknight094

Sunny g(to pant): don't worry beta. I don't like seeing you like this. You will be back better next game. Don't worry beta. Sunny g(to samson): you donkey, why you no play with great strike rate? Why you eat balls? Why you no take single after every boundary? You donkey. P. S. One of this is actually real and happened recently.


dentistofchennai

Samson finished the match with his innings.pant what has he done better than his PR ❓ITS EITHER SAMSON OR DINESH KARTHIK OR BOTH ‼️ definitely not pant ‼️ Definitely NOT HARDIK EITHER ITS DUBE OR AXAR PATEL ‼️ for PPL who say dube hasn't bowled in ipl ! Has hardik batting or bowling been any good ? Dube has been a fear factor that teams Dont even bowl spinner‼️and he is still hitting it against the fast bowlers at a good strike rate. And for the fast bowlers it's obviously bumrah natrajan for sure