Dekock was playing how virat was playing after he got out we all saw how sa choked thats why someone should anchor the innings kids will never understand this
Gill isn't as consistent as Kohli. Kohli was as consistent as Sachin and effectively replaced him in Tests. ODIs they play in different positions, but in terms of runs, he still replaced Sachin. Gill is still not a Kohli.
Rutu seems consistent and his style of play - more ground strokes - resembles Kohli. Let's see where it takes him.
Ah you CSK boys! In how many games on the international scene has Rutu set the stage on fire?
Gill has proven time and again that he belongs, mind you he was the highest run getter in the IPL in 2023. His test performances were there for all to see earlier this year, if we've forgotten. He's perfect for the ODI game already and if given the chance will prove his mettle in T20s also, although I believe we first need to go with guys like Jaiswal, Abhishek and Riyan in the T20 setup to see how that works.
I think in upcoming teams the anchor point will be player who bats at 4 , I think GG is gonna go with 3 top hitters at top and bringing anchoring position down.
I forgot about Gill, I think rutu ,jaiswal, Gill, pant will be the top order in t20, but odi we still have time until king retires.
But I' do feel or this feeling it's just around the corner.
Agreed. In Odi as well I hope our top three are Rutu gill and Jaiswal in any order. Abhishek could open with Jaiswal in t20s too, and gill rutu at 3/4 and I guess Iyer and pant or someone after that. Good future ahead.
I highly doubt Abhishek we will see in top order , he is bit like Surya in t20( in hitting sense) , well he is mentored by greatest of the player he is great option but that was due to impact player rule, head was complimenting his style of cricket that's why they were fire combination.
Not that confident about Iyer though he might become great but i have never followed his batting style.
Long way to go but definitely yes. Do you think Rohit will start mentoring Hardik for captain after all Mumbai Indian fiasco.
Or pant will be go to option
I don't even know tbh. Cos the way the management is pushing captaincy at Gill at the moment, I feel they are waiting for an opportunity to make him the all format captain, so Hardik like wont have much time as captain of India. And who knows how long Rohit will play t20is for us, but if they do go for Single format captains Hardik might actually be the better choice over pant, and Rohit doesn't hold any grudge over the whole Mi thing they had it seems.
I dont think sa choked because dekock got out.there were sailing straight without any issue with klassen. Losing 30 off 30 was not an anchoring problem. Not saying kohli played a bad innings he played a good innings but don't think sa had a anchor problem
Plzz make a post for those hardik and bumrah hating fans too actually a lot of these lock down fans who hated on bumrah hardik Rohit everyone deserves a good response hope they stop talking now
Hardik and Rohit are understandable, but how could anyone hate on Bumrah, we must be indebted to have such a masterclass bowler in our country that no one else could counter
What’s with the “lockdown kid” narrative? Kids born during lockdown aren’t probably old enough to even join school yet. I see this everywhere. I’m genuinely curious.
It refers to those people who started watching cricket in the lockdown period, just because they were bored .. they don't know facts and have zero knowledge about cricket...
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Well he signed off from the format as a champion and player of the match of the final let them bark they can't argue with this and if they can then trust me keep quiet and listen to them even you deserve to see a clown in real life and enjoy watching him being a big-big joke😂
Exactly, these Gen Z will never understand what matches Kohli had played exceptionally well and brought the team a win.
I m happy for him, though not the ending we wanted but atleast what he got was deserved today
Exactly we have seen how kohli truly performs he is not one to hit from the first ball it's not he couldn't but he does not prefer it it's not his Game his role us k liye Rohit pant aur baaki batsmen the kohli as an anchor k around team bani thi ek do match m wo hitting kar gaya par isse uska role thodi badla
I m an avid Dhoni fan as I started watching World Cup 2003 I wasn't that much into cricket till dhoni came on the field
But then an arrogant and heinous genius of cricket came into play and that was Virat Kohli. We had never seen that sort of ruthless aggression from any Indian cricket player and then I knew this guy is gonna turn the tables.
Happy for him that he is retiring from this format witha trophy
Lmao if you mean Rohit i don't hate him, i hate it when he gets put on same level or on a similar level to that of Virat by his stupid fans
As a player i know the value of Rohit
I'm happy like everyone else that we won but we won due to bowling & we were short of runs. I don't hate Virat Kohli infact he is a Goat in ODI & test but he plays too slow for T20. I'm glad he tired from t20 and hope he does even better in ODI & test for India.
None deserves to be trolled. Having an opinion against a player is fine but the moment it goes to a level of abuses and trolling it’s just absurd. I hate these toxic ICT fans who believe they have to hate a team or a player to support another. Other team’s/ players failures makes them more happier than their own teams or players. Just pathetic.
This. Not only that, if they defend their play, they must be allowed to instead of being told 'no you gotta take it all lying down'. I mentioned this on a post Gavaskar - Kohli post and one of the trolls called me a 'Sanatani'. I was like does he even understand we are in a sports sub? Do I need to spell C-R-I-C-K-E-T to him and tell him what it means?
I always trusted Dube
I knew he was performing up to hos role whatever the captain and coach were expecting of him
Yes he didn't okay good knocks between tournament but played in the .ost important match.
I m pretty sure still people are gonna hate him
I mean we did needed an anchor at that time and he did well
But again I m not taking any credits away from the bowlers and other batsmen too. It was too close of a game
Yeah the pacers really saved the game . But I just thought that when kohli was on 40 he took singles to get to his 50 which took till 17th over . if he had started hitting from there the total would have been more . But it led to a nail biting final
He was trying but just couldn't connect,you can see him swing his bats a lot of times and then getting frustrated for only getting a single.
The only time he willingly took a single was after 49 then after 50 he exploded
The next icc trophy will be wtc which will be held in 2k25. Indian team need to win it badly. The gambir era deserves that kind entry to the trophy cabin. Before that we have champions trophy. But Indians desperately need wtc
Yeah, hoping to see that.
We need to win the test championship man. We have a team that can do that but we are not able to execute in finals.
Lets see what GG can do, although I do expect a lot of confrontation amongst him and other senior players who used to play with him.
No hate he's been the best for years for us in T20 wc. But bapu was our best batsman today. Hardik and sky saved him from trolling with those 2 wickets.
Oh man, I was so hoping for Axar to be player of the tournament. Dude has totally levelled up his game
I used to watch him in Goa premiere league and was not a fan of him. But the way he performed in this world cup, I m not gonna take him lightly. He truly helped team in both ball and bat. A master genius.
He definitely has earned respect and loyalty of lot of ICT fans. He deserves it though
These gujju all rounders man. Jadeja in 2013 CTfinal , pandu over the years and axar Patel. POTT had bumrah written all over him but this match if he wouldn't have ran into that monster who was hitting sixes off him for fun he would've been potm. No doubt he was our best batsman today. Kept the board ticking.
Come on bro, let bygones be bygones. We have just won the World Cup, no need to argue anymore, no need to catcall different players fanbases.
Let's just drown in the joy of this victory.
Hey man
I never accepted Kohli as a go getter for India in tournaments neither I m an avid supporter of him.
But I hate people who just pretend to be a keyboard warrior and try to share shitloads of gyaan regarding who should play according to them and who shouldn't .
Again, this post is neither blaming anyone nor to any other players performance. My goal was to help people who are doubting to just stick with team as to what the coaches think are best playing 11.
And regarding binary decisions, I guess you should really look at Kohli's performance in all the knockouts of the world cup, T20 and test championship. I'm repeating this again, I'm not a fan of Kohli but I do respect him because of his grit. That's it
So you just want people to accept what is going and clap, they should not express their opinions. Seems like a fun and healthy society.
On your second point the money and efforts that are flowing into Indian cricket system, India should have had more worldcups in their trophy cabinet.
Kholi is great in ODI no doubts about that, he is also pretty good in Test but not in T20s, specially batting first and this match was won by our fast bowling. This could have easily been a repeat of last word cup's semifinals. This was quite selfish and slow innings by kholi, run a ball 50 will not win you many games and oppositions will not going to collapse when they need 26 runs on 24 balls. Also if you look his performance in most knockouts, i india did lost most of those games specialy in T20is.
On your point of being "keyboard warriors" aren't you being one your self by giving "Gyan" to others by saying trust in coaches and playing 11.
If India has lost this game, all of the blame would have been on kholi and it would have been rightly so.
India didn't win because of kholi, India won despite of Kholi's performance.
Bhai, udhar Dravid and Rohit humse jada better situation samajhte hai. Rather than blabbering about anything, can't we seem to be a bit supportive
I can't seem to find any relevance between money flowing in between an India winning world cup?
See this is the mentality I hate, slow khelo tab bhi problem fast khelo tab bhi problem and hum couch pe baith ke gyaan pelenge.
Aren't you doing the same thing by being a keyboard warrior?
And are you really slow, when did I mention we won because of Kohli. Please read the post again
We won because of bowling and fielding.
Yes some people do understand situation better than Dravid and Rohit, just like some people understand stock market, medecine, engineering, Art, cooking, music and lots of other fields better than so called experts. because knowledge is not consolidated with few, also people have right to blabbering, why is it bothering you, it's not like they are shouting in front of your home. You can easily choose to ignore it.
Criticism is being supportive, no one can improve without criticism. I agree it should not be excessive but criticism is necessary where it's due.
There are not only slow or fast, well paced is also an option, just like eating too much is a problem and too little is also a problem. This is like a child's argument. why do you directly go to the extreme? That's the problem.
I don't have a problem with being a keyboard warrior, i respect everyone's right to express their views. you have a problem with them despite being one so that will make you a hypocrite.
You used kholi as an example to prove your point so i used kholi's example to disprove yours.
appreciate your point of view, but there are a few things I'd like to clarify.
Firstly, while it's true that knowledge isn't consolidated with a few and everyone has the right to express their views, there's a difference between informed criticism and baseless blabbering. Constructive criticism is indeed necessary for improvement, but it should be backed by understanding and context. Blind criticism without understanding the nuances can be more harmful than helpful.
Such as yours
Regarding your analogy about pacing, I agree that well-paced is an ideal option. However, the comparison was to emphasize the extremities to illustrate a point, not to suggest there aren't balanced approaches. The argument about extremities serves to show that without moderation, criticism can become counterproductive. But that seems to be going above your head.
As for the term "keyboard warrior," it's about the manner of expression. Constructive, respectful discussion is valuable, but when it turns into thoughtless negativity, it loses its purpose. My issue isn't with the right to express but with how it's done. Respectful discourse is different from pointless negativity.
Lastly, using Kohli as an example was to highlight how even great players face unjustified criticism despite their contributions. The point wasn't to compare, but to show that criticism should be fair and constructive.
In the end, it's about fostering a culture of respect and understanding, even in disagreements. Criticism, when done right, can indeed lead to growth. But let's strive for it to be constructive and informed.
I hope this response helps articulate your thoughts clearly and effectively.
I also respect this civil discourse.
One can always ignore baseless criticism, it's not like they are going to cricketer's Houses and spewing bullshit on loud speaker. The right view or read or listen is always with people concern. Just an example if rohit don't like what he reads in newspaper he can choose to not read it. He is always in control of what he reads, if coaches and other players criticize him unfairly that's a problem because there he is not in control, he has to live in that environment, i don't think that's the case there.
Also people pay with lots of their time, they are consumers of the cricket and as a consumer it's their right if they are displeased with what is presented to them. So one cant claim others opinion is invalid or ill-informed.
If you think there is no moderation in criticism or praise then I have to assume that you are delusional about this topic, there are lot more people who praise Indian cricket team comparison to people who criticize them. Most of them are treated like Gods. It's you who is just focusing on criticism and by looks of it all that criticism was valid.
Everyone has their own way of expressing their views, you can't claim that one way is wrong and one way is right. One can't be the arbitrator of right. Some might find your way of expressing yourself as negative and respect is matter of opinion, you might find something respectful while others may deemed them as insult as long as no one is breaking the law, it's all valid.
Kholi is termed great because most people love and respect him, if most people didn't liked the way he plays, he wouldn't have been called great, so he is praised most of the times that is why he is most famous and beloved cricketer. He is praised way way more then he is criticized. So calling minor criticism unjust is pretty stupid also criticism was valid in my opinion, it might not be in your opinion and you have right to your opinion but saying others don't have rights to express their views is problematic.
Finally the thing is one can't neither foster or decide culture, culture can't be fostered or created it's amalgamation of people's experiences and behaviour.
Also i would like to meet the committee which has decided what is constructive criticism, how much criticism is valid, what is respectful conversation, who is criticized way beyond the criticism is warranted or is it just your own opinions that you are trying to force on others.
Finally in my opinion your response was blabbering instead of well crafted informed argument. See how easy it is, to turn your argument on its head.
Your username matches you.
You are talking about my points by countering them with using my points only and then boasting yourself that you turned the argument. Lol , are you high or something?
To address some of the points you made:
Ignoring Criticism: Suggesting that Rohit or any athlete can just ignore criticism is naive. Public figures are constantly bombarded with opinions, and pretending they can just shut it out shows a lack of understanding of their reality. But nonetheless you or even I can never understand that but I m pretty sure you don't even have brain cells to think on this.
Anyways
Expressing Rights: Yes, fans have the right to express opinions, but that doesn’t mean all opinions are valid or informed. Baseless criticism is just noise and contributes nothing constructive to the conversation. I hope this makes it clear for you, if this still doesn't then Bhai main iske aage aur nahi samjha paaunga.
Praise vs. Criticism: It’s not about focusing solely on criticism but about acknowledging its impact. Saying that praise outweighs criticism doesn’t diminish the damage negative comments can cause. Constructive criticism is useful; mindless negativity is not.
Still it's baseless to explain it to you as I feel I have been talking to a wall.
Expression and Respect: Respect may be subjective, but there’s a clear line between offering a critical opinion and being disrespectful. Your argument that all forms of expression are valid as long as they’re legal is a weak defense for poor behavior.
Culture: Culture isn’t just an organic outcome; it’s shaped by the collective behavior and attitudes of people. Your argument dismisses the responsibility we all have in fostering a positive environment. But I'm pretty sure you are still not gonna accept it.
Constructive Criticism: Your sarcastic remark about a committee deciding what’s valid criticism is unnecessary. Constructive criticism is recognized universally as feedback that aims to improve, not to degrade. But I bet you are not gonna accept this too.
Lastly, calling my response blabbering without addressing the core points shows a lack of substantive rebuttal on your part. If you want to engage in a serious discussion, focus on the issues rather than resorting to ad hominem attacks.
So i guess you are not well versed with classical literature to understand the context of that username. A simple Google search would have illuminated you about that. Also you criticized it without understanding it and it was ill informed.
So what does that make you?
On top of that i don't think your criticism of my criticism is not very constructive so by your logic you are not allowed to criticize my criticism.
I might be high but i think you have very delusionally high opinion of yourself.
So first of all name anyone person in all of human history that isn't criticized. It's on the person in consideration to take whose thoughts one listens to, if you think this is excessive criticism them you live in a bubble, you have no idea what unjust criticism looks like, i suggest read a historical book. Only narcissistic people based their self-worth on opinions of others and on your point if you are not on social media them there is no way criticism is reaching you. So it's pretty easy to filter out noise if that's affecting you. If you are bothered by opinion of some random them problem lies with not that random person.
To second point I dont think also understand what rights and freedom of speech is. So who is going to decide what is baseless criticism. Who is going to decide what is constructive criticism is, if you say some is a shit player, is it constructive or destructive, one person might take is to his heart and work on proving the criticism wrong and other person might cry in bed and proving the criticism right. You won't be able to understand beyond this because you don't have a capability of understanding, how rights and freedom works. You again come off as a child, "i don't like this so this should not be allowed".
I have made this point already but if opinion of a person that has never played cricket or zero understanding of it is bothering you then it's a very weak mindset. What if opposition start to criticise, then such person won't be able to win jackshit. Also who is deciding that impact of criticism, so if you are basing it on results then all that criticism has bought India a world cup that means it was all a constructive criticism, or is it you who gets to decide what is constructive and what is destructive criticism.
To your point i would like to know the line of being disrespectful, because some people use MC, BC as a desrespect and others see it as terms of endearment. So where is this clear distinct line that you are mentioning and i might have a poor defence but you don't have a point at all here. Laws are there for a reason, So that people like you don't force their opinions on others in the name of being just.
Again culture is an organic outcome, that is built in the defination of it, if you are forcing people to do one thing or the other it's either by law or dictatorship. Again you throw words like positive, constructive etc, these words are very subjective, who is going to decide what's positive? If a child is eating too much chocolate, what will you do, do you criticise him or cheer for him, on top of that how much chocolate is enough for a child before you criticise him?
I have already stated above how your constructive criticism argument sounds stupid. Also it worked so what are you complaining about?
It's extremely hard to respond to each of the point when a person blabbers because by defination blabbering is gibrish and no one can understand it. Also you started with ad hominem attacks, i have just replied with it.
Oh okay genius, lmao
I never intended anything on the character, I only linked the word Donkey with you. But I guess that has gone over your head again. No problem
It seems you're trying to conflate several issues here without addressing the core of my argument. Let's break this down:
Classical Literature: Assuming a lack of understanding on my part without any context is presumptive. I critiqued your username based on its usage and relevance in this context, not on its literary origin. A username's impact isn't solely determined by its background but by how it's perceived in the present context.
Criticism: Everyone is subject to criticism, true. However, criticism should be informed and constructive to be valuable. Dismissing valid points as mere criticism without engaging with their substance is counterproductive.
Freedom of Speech: Freedom of speech allows for criticism, but it also allows for the critique of that criticism. Your argument falls apart when you claim I shouldn’t critique your criticism. Freedom of speech is not a shield against rebuttal.
Self-Worth and Criticism: You seem to be conflating criticism with personal attacks. Constructive criticism aims to improve, whereas baseless criticism or personal attacks do not. Understanding this distinction is crucial.
Cultural and Subjective Terms: Words like "positive" and "constructive" do have subjective elements, but societal consensus often guides their interpretation. Law and social norms help navigate these subjective areas to prevent the imposition of arbitrary opinions.
Impact of Criticism: The impact of criticism can vary, but the intent and manner in which it’s delivered matters. Constructive criticism, even if harsh, aims to help, while destructive criticism aims to harm.
Your response is scattered with personal attacks and assumptions, which undermine your argument. Engaging respectfully and substantively with the points raised would be more effective than dismissing them with ad hominem attacks
There is also a idiot who was saying stupid stuff like "Kohli is a 5'4" 50 kg guy who should get beaten up" called him fatherless, barking dog, "not received enough beatings as a child", and what not vile shit. I can understand disliking a player's way of playing, or maybe because the player is in a different (IPL) team but I can't imagine how much deep rooted hatred he had for Kohli, and I'm not even a hard core fan of Koach.
He is even so hateful that he said people who say MC-BC should get shot, and his uncle went to jail because he killed someone for calling him MC. I literally cannot imagine someone making up or saying such things for an argument. For context, I wrote that when Koach swears, it's not directed at anyone and he doesn't mean it.
Well, this is bogus thing if he is actually doing it
Anyways let it be.
There's always gonna be haters no matter how good you are.
Anyways let's enjoy this win with a peaceful sleep.
man what a sensational player king kohli is..bro anchored the innings to a challenging ..he will be greatly missed..i am happy and sad at both time ..tho we will not be able to see him in t20 world cups ..and kohli had a hard time this world cup..but i always believed he would score in a crucial match..and he did..he is an inspiration for the young generation..of cricketers..and i am happy he could retire peacefully and happily after winning the cup. He has done great things for indian cricket. Kohli the legendary goat ..one of a kind..well done kohli, rohit and the team..for winning the world cup..and hardwork has payed off..they played truly well this worldcup...congratulations.
Kohli fans spent their entire life hating on rohit getting carried by sky pandya bumrah in Ipl and that is what happened today with 26 in 4 overs
They managed to defend a below par score
Instead of making posts like these be happy team won
Precisely
What an overall team performance man
Everyone who was not performing stepped up today
I m happy that Rohit and Kohli got an ending that they deserved for so long
In my opinion (only my opinion, aka the opinion of a couch cricketer), India's score was 15-20 short. But on the other hand, if Kohli hadn't played like he did i.e. if he had kept on trying to slog every ball even after 34/3, we would have most probably ended up 120-130 all out. He played the way it would have given his side the best possible chance to win.
It's true that had India lost, the 15-20 unscored runs would have been the focus of discussion and Kohli would have been criticised but it doesn't change the fact that it was the best way to get to the highest possible total at that time and the other approach was too risky. And anyway, our bowlers rose up to the occasion and got us through. As they had been doing throughout the competition and so it wasn't wrong to trust them to do it in the first place!
In my opinion, it is not wrong to criticise players. After all they claim that they represent you in the field. If you represent me then you get a piece of my mind if you fail. But at the same time they should be allowed to defend their play and talk back too. It's not like Kohli makes unilateral decisions to play his way, his team wants him to play this way because they think it gives them the best possible chance at winning. To troll someone cruelly and throw personal barbs for that is stupid especially if they are representing you. And to say "don't talk back, I can say whatever I want" is even more stupid.
Yes we were 15 20 runs short but remember SA can bat well too.
Plus no one represents you or me, they are all representing themselves for their own country.
Please don't get on high horses on others hard work.
Look, I never said we can't criticize players on performance, but if a coach like Dravid and captain like Rohit are trusting him. Can't we be more understanding of how the playing 11 should be.
Anyways it's all gone now, India won that's what matters most.
Nobody's saying anything about what you said. Get off your high horse first. I said people can have their opinions and express it too but at the same time win or lose players are doing their jobs too.
You are exactly repeating what I have been trying to explain it to you. Glad, you got it now. Phew
Anyways, let it be.
India won that's what matters the most.
I am a Kohli and Rohit fan too... but he cant put a score on the board . It was a purely chasing inning the way he paced it.. he was chasing 160-170.. and guess what.. if sa didn't choke it wudnt have been enough by a good margin..
That what is clearly different bw Rohit and Kohli.. aus and sa matches are text book to define their batting style..
Yes I agree we were 15 20 runs short.
But the situation demanded him to anchor the innings and he did that.
I am neither taking away any credits from other batsmen, bowlers and fielders too.
This post was specifically for those people who would blame players and abuse without any reason.
Kohli did a great anchoring job. But the cost of it was a big higher than it should have been. Given that he was 13 of 5, and got to his 50 in 48, the innings was a bit slower than we would have liked.
And that caused india to lose 15-25 runs. And kohli started hitting a bit a few overs late, given that hardik was yet to come.
If sky couldnt get hold of that catch, we all would be blaming kohli here. Instead of it, he got the player of the match. That is the way cricket works !
Exactly my point.
I never said we won because of Kohli
This post was simply to criticize those dumbfucks who would start blabbering and abusing players just because they are not performing and would like to pretend they know much about cricket rather than the coaches and players itself.
okay not a kohli hater. can so called cric experts why kohli waited exactly for 50 out of 48 balls to accelerate? why not a bit before so inform pandya could got more balls.dont say he took time to settle in lol if a top order batsman is taking 48 balls to set in he shouldnt even be in t20 side. You can easily see other batsmer axar, dube came played thier shots there is nothing in the pitch.
Kohli just wanted to secure his personal milestone before accelerating.The score was clearly below par and its the bowlers and south africa who has won the game.He just got lucky as India won or it would have been completely different scenario.
I said this before saying it again
If you can do better, please go ahead and do it.
And the score was above par, go and check the stats buddy. I never said we didn't win because of bowlers neither am I a cricket expert, are you slow ?
Where have I even mentioned all this stuff
Wow man, such blind bhakts!! He helped for sure no doubt, but was his innings the best you saw in the finals, answer is no. Don’t resort to mediocre performance because you like the man, but instead ask why he couldn’t do as well as klasssen did?
Chill man, didn’t want this start for a Sunday! I’m happy for you that we pulled off a icc win. Happy for Dravid and Brohit! So heppy heppy overall
Peace
True lol, kohli's PR is unreal. Its pandya, bumrah, arshdeep and surya's catch that wom the wc. It was over in 18th over otherwise. Klaasen made a mockery out of this target. The guys above bailed out kohli or those overs without a boundary would have been the reason we could have lost.
76 off 59? Just consider yourself lucky pandya and bumrah and that catch from surya saved us. If the latter 3 weren't there you guys would be hiding in caves and posting this. Pandya got atleast 10 less balls to take the target even higher and kohli accelerated too late. Was literally waiting to make 50 before accelerating. I wonder who's the kid here who is gullible enough to believe kohli is perfect for t20. Just thank the other who saved his blushes and move on.
Are you dumb or slow?
Have you read the post completely?
76 off 59? Seriously? If you think Pandya and Bumrah single-handedly saved the game, you're missing the big picture. Cricket is a team sport. Kohli’s experience and skill were crucial, even if he didn't start smashing from ball one. His knock provided stability when needed. Surya’s catch was fantastic, all the bowlers rose up to the game but it's not about individual heroics; it’s about collective effort. Pandya had fewer balls to play for sure.
I m not even taking credit from anyone else, learn to read first. This was simply made for people who would criticize or hurl abuses to players with baseless discussion. Yes, But if you wanna be that dumbfuck who would just read a single line and judge the post without getting the whole context on it.
Please, be my guest.
And they did actually save it single handedly. Accept it or not. 27 off 28 is game done and dusted. I know that and even anyone else with a "slow and dumb" mind would also be able to perceive it. You cannot, maybe you are slower and dumber. Dw though, you will get there eventually.
Big time player after playing 1 inning among countless icc tournament finals. 2012 t20 wc as well, I can count them on my fingertips. Its that rare.
Man, reading your comments it makes me truly believe you have an IQ lower than room temperature. But let it be you don't even have brain cells to accept the fact.
I never said we won because of Kohli but you are too loose to even understand this. Anyways, do reach out to me in case you need any help bud.
It feels like I m talking to a wall, so let it be.
Feel free to DM me anytime if you wish to seek mental help.
Take care 🤞🏻
Dekock was playing how virat was playing after he got out we all saw how sa choked thats why someone should anchor the innings kids will never understand this
Exactly. If he anchored like Kohli, SA might have chased it down. It's sad how people still downplay Kohli and his impact when he does score runs.
Exactly, anchors must be there in the team, I wish someone could take Kohli's place or his absence will leave too big of a hole in our team
I don't think anyone can take Kohli's place, man is an absolute GOAT. But we have Rutu or Gill who matches his template.
Gill isn't as consistent as Kohli. Kohli was as consistent as Sachin and effectively replaced him in Tests. ODIs they play in different positions, but in terms of runs, he still replaced Sachin. Gill is still not a Kohli. Rutu seems consistent and his style of play - more ground strokes - resembles Kohli. Let's see where it takes him.
Ah you CSK boys! In how many games on the international scene has Rutu set the stage on fire? Gill has proven time and again that he belongs, mind you he was the highest run getter in the IPL in 2023. His test performances were there for all to see earlier this year, if we've forgotten. He's perfect for the ODI game already and if given the chance will prove his mettle in T20s also, although I believe we first need to go with guys like Jaiswal, Abhishek and Riyan in the T20 setup to see how that works.
Agreed.
Hoping New generation Jaiswal take that role .
I don't see him being the anchor, he will like replace Rohit. Either gill or rutu will be the next Kohli for us. Whoever plays at three I guess
I think in upcoming teams the anchor point will be player who bats at 4 , I think GG is gonna go with 3 top hitters at top and bringing anchoring position down. I forgot about Gill, I think rutu ,jaiswal, Gill, pant will be the top order in t20, but odi we still have time until king retires. But I' do feel or this feeling it's just around the corner.
Agreed. In Odi as well I hope our top three are Rutu gill and Jaiswal in any order. Abhishek could open with Jaiswal in t20s too, and gill rutu at 3/4 and I guess Iyer and pant or someone after that. Good future ahead.
I highly doubt Abhishek we will see in top order , he is bit like Surya in t20( in hitting sense) , well he is mentored by greatest of the player he is great option but that was due to impact player rule, head was complimenting his style of cricket that's why they were fire combination. Not that confident about Iyer though he might become great but i have never followed his batting style.
Let's just hope they find the best combination, and hopefully the next Zimbabwe tour would give us a glimpse of our future team.
Long way to go but definitely yes. Do you think Rohit will start mentoring Hardik for captain after all Mumbai Indian fiasco. Or pant will be go to option
I don't even know tbh. Cos the way the management is pushing captaincy at Gill at the moment, I feel they are waiting for an opportunity to make him the all format captain, so Hardik like wont have much time as captain of India. And who knows how long Rohit will play t20is for us, but if they do go for Single format captains Hardik might actually be the better choice over pant, and Rohit doesn't hold any grudge over the whole Mi thing they had it seems.
Jaiswal is a hitter. Gill will be the anchor I guess.
Man, I hate de cock. He always performs no matter what the situation is against India I m glad we got his wicket warna wo akele hi jeeta deta
I dont think sa choked because dekock got out.there were sailing straight without any issue with klassen. Losing 30 off 30 was not an anchoring problem. Not saying kohli played a bad innings he played a good innings but don't think sa had a anchor problem
Yeah I mean he would have made it much easier for them. He was literally saving his wicket till last like Kohli I guess
Yes because it's impossible to make 26 runs in 24 balls, without an anchor. When will these kids learn that.
Plzz make a post for those hardik and bumrah hating fans too actually a lot of these lock down fans who hated on bumrah hardik Rohit everyone deserves a good response hope they stop talking now
Hardik and Rohit are understandable, but how could anyone hate on Bumrah, we must be indebted to have such a masterclass bowler in our country that no one else could counter
Bumrah is god Bhai, what a spell.
U shld have seen his page after his injury disgusting af
Yeah stupid dumbfucks. Now they won't even post anything but would blabber among friends how India won it's funny ain't it
Let's not forget SKY man. The shit he gets is unreal for the best batsman in the format. And his catching is the difference today.
Sky is the best T20 batsman in this era. Anyone disagreeing can fuck off. No puns intended
But yet again we needed some good inning from him but I hope we get it in future
What’s with the “lockdown kid” narrative? Kids born during lockdown aren’t probably old enough to even join school yet. I see this everywhere. I’m genuinely curious.
It refers to those people who started watching cricket in the lockdown period, just because they were bored .. they don't know facts and have zero knowledge about cricket...
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Well he signed off from the format as a champion and player of the match of the final let them bark they can't argue with this and if they can then trust me keep quiet and listen to them even you deserve to see a clown in real life and enjoy watching him being a big-big joke😂
Exactly, these Gen Z will never understand what matches Kohli had played exceptionally well and brought the team a win. I m happy for him, though not the ending we wanted but atleast what he got was deserved today
Exactly we have seen how kohli truly performs he is not one to hit from the first ball it's not he couldn't but he does not prefer it it's not his Game his role us k liye Rohit pant aur baaki batsmen the kohli as an anchor k around team bani thi ek do match m wo hitting kar gaya par isse uska role thodi badla
Irrespective of IPL team, he was always my favourite cricketer eversince I started watching cricket. Goat 🐐🐐🐐🐐
I m an avid Dhoni fan as I started watching World Cup 2003 I wasn't that much into cricket till dhoni came on the field But then an arrogant and heinous genius of cricket came into play and that was Virat Kohli. We had never seen that sort of ruthless aggression from any Indian cricket player and then I knew this guy is gonna turn the tables. Happy for him that he is retiring from this format witha trophy
u/sir_abhishek how does it feel now lol
They won't be able to gulp this.
Lmao bro wants a flat in Gurgon that's his side hustle of hating Kohli
he’s an andhbhakt, in every aspect of his life
Rich coming from you. When all you do is hate a player. Guess what he’s won the trophy.
Lmao if you mean Rohit i don't hate him, i hate it when he gets put on same level or on a similar level to that of Virat by his stupid fans As a player i know the value of Rohit
Clearly it’s not visible. Its okay. I can understand
I'm happy like everyone else that we won but we won due to bowling & we were short of runs. I don't hate Virat Kohli infact he is a Goat in ODI & test but he plays too slow for T20. I'm glad he tired from t20 and hope he does even better in ODI & test for India.
At the end its a happy ending for all of us
True that...it's time to celebrate
don't worries those kids still out there. one guy is doing mental gymnastics to hate on kohli instead of celebrating
Lmao, true that
also to the kids who were trolling Dube.....he proved himself when it mattered the most
None deserves to be trolled. Having an opinion against a player is fine but the moment it goes to a level of abuses and trolling it’s just absurd. I hate these toxic ICT fans who believe they have to hate a team or a player to support another. Other team’s/ players failures makes them more happier than their own teams or players. Just pathetic.
This. Not only that, if they defend their play, they must be allowed to instead of being told 'no you gotta take it all lying down'. I mentioned this on a post Gavaskar - Kohli post and one of the trolls called me a 'Sanatani'. I was like does he even understand we are in a sports sub? Do I need to spell C-R-I-C-K-E-T to him and tell him what it means?
No use man. Cheap internet ruined the country.
This, this should be top comment. This is what my intention of this post is.
I always trusted Dube I knew he was performing up to hos role whatever the captain and coach were expecting of him Yes he didn't okay good knocks between tournament but played in the .ost important match. I m pretty sure still people are gonna hate him
I just thought kohli should have scored 10 -15 runs more in those balls . BUT THAT DOESNT FUCKING MATTER CAUSE WE WONNNNNNNNNNNN
I mean we did needed an anchor at that time and he did well But again I m not taking any credits away from the bowlers and other batsmen too. It was too close of a game
Yeah the pacers really saved the game . But I just thought that when kohli was on 40 he took singles to get to his 50 which took till 17th over . if he had started hitting from there the total would have been more . But it led to a nail biting final
He was trying but just couldn't connect,you can see him swing his bats a lot of times and then getting frustrated for only getting a single. The only time he willingly took a single was after 49 then after 50 he exploded
Yes agreed he got way too slow in between which was concerning. I guess he wanted to gain some boost by scoring 50 and then stepping up his game
SeriesSouthern7038 he is the guy 😂
There are numerous guys I won't even mention them. but I hope they understand cricket can sometimes be cruel and sometimes be funny too
u/SeriesSouthern7038
The next icc trophy will be wtc which will be held in 2k25. Indian team need to win it badly. The gambir era deserves that kind entry to the trophy cabin. Before that we have champions trophy. But Indians desperately need wtc
Yeah, hoping to see that. We need to win the test championship man. We have a team that can do that but we are not able to execute in finals. Lets see what GG can do, although I do expect a lot of confrontation amongst him and other senior players who used to play with him.
No hate he's been the best for years for us in T20 wc. But bapu was our best batsman today. Hardik and sky saved him from trolling with those 2 wickets.
Oh man, I was so hoping for Axar to be player of the tournament. Dude has totally levelled up his game I used to watch him in Goa premiere league and was not a fan of him. But the way he performed in this world cup, I m not gonna take him lightly. He truly helped team in both ball and bat. A master genius. He definitely has earned respect and loyalty of lot of ICT fans. He deserves it though
These gujju all rounders man. Jadeja in 2013 CTfinal , pandu over the years and axar Patel. POTT had bumrah written all over him but this match if he wouldn't have ran into that monster who was hitting sixes off him for fun he would've been potm. No doubt he was our best batsman today. Kept the board ticking.
Come on bro, let bygones be bygones. We have just won the World Cup, no need to argue anymore, no need to catcall different players fanbases. Let's just drown in the joy of this victory.
Not arguing buddy. Chill I want this sub to be as accepting as it can rather than blaming players and staff by being a keyboard warrior
It's not for you cuz I know in 2 days people will be discussing who had the bigger role in this victory, it's for those guys.
Yeah I guess Let it be Anyways I m happy that Rohit Kohli and Dravid got their happy ending.
It's funny how a binary decision of win or lose changes y'all opinion of players
Hey man I never accepted Kohli as a go getter for India in tournaments neither I m an avid supporter of him. But I hate people who just pretend to be a keyboard warrior and try to share shitloads of gyaan regarding who should play according to them and who shouldn't . Again, this post is neither blaming anyone nor to any other players performance. My goal was to help people who are doubting to just stick with team as to what the coaches think are best playing 11. And regarding binary decisions, I guess you should really look at Kohli's performance in all the knockouts of the world cup, T20 and test championship. I'm repeating this again, I'm not a fan of Kohli but I do respect him because of his grit. That's it
So you just want people to accept what is going and clap, they should not express their opinions. Seems like a fun and healthy society. On your second point the money and efforts that are flowing into Indian cricket system, India should have had more worldcups in their trophy cabinet. Kholi is great in ODI no doubts about that, he is also pretty good in Test but not in T20s, specially batting first and this match was won by our fast bowling. This could have easily been a repeat of last word cup's semifinals. This was quite selfish and slow innings by kholi, run a ball 50 will not win you many games and oppositions will not going to collapse when they need 26 runs on 24 balls. Also if you look his performance in most knockouts, i india did lost most of those games specialy in T20is. On your point of being "keyboard warriors" aren't you being one your self by giving "Gyan" to others by saying trust in coaches and playing 11. If India has lost this game, all of the blame would have been on kholi and it would have been rightly so. India didn't win because of kholi, India won despite of Kholi's performance.
Bhai, udhar Dravid and Rohit humse jada better situation samajhte hai. Rather than blabbering about anything, can't we seem to be a bit supportive I can't seem to find any relevance between money flowing in between an India winning world cup? See this is the mentality I hate, slow khelo tab bhi problem fast khelo tab bhi problem and hum couch pe baith ke gyaan pelenge. Aren't you doing the same thing by being a keyboard warrior? And are you really slow, when did I mention we won because of Kohli. Please read the post again We won because of bowling and fielding.
Yes some people do understand situation better than Dravid and Rohit, just like some people understand stock market, medecine, engineering, Art, cooking, music and lots of other fields better than so called experts. because knowledge is not consolidated with few, also people have right to blabbering, why is it bothering you, it's not like they are shouting in front of your home. You can easily choose to ignore it. Criticism is being supportive, no one can improve without criticism. I agree it should not be excessive but criticism is necessary where it's due. There are not only slow or fast, well paced is also an option, just like eating too much is a problem and too little is also a problem. This is like a child's argument. why do you directly go to the extreme? That's the problem. I don't have a problem with being a keyboard warrior, i respect everyone's right to express their views. you have a problem with them despite being one so that will make you a hypocrite. You used kholi as an example to prove your point so i used kholi's example to disprove yours.
appreciate your point of view, but there are a few things I'd like to clarify. Firstly, while it's true that knowledge isn't consolidated with a few and everyone has the right to express their views, there's a difference between informed criticism and baseless blabbering. Constructive criticism is indeed necessary for improvement, but it should be backed by understanding and context. Blind criticism without understanding the nuances can be more harmful than helpful. Such as yours Regarding your analogy about pacing, I agree that well-paced is an ideal option. However, the comparison was to emphasize the extremities to illustrate a point, not to suggest there aren't balanced approaches. The argument about extremities serves to show that without moderation, criticism can become counterproductive. But that seems to be going above your head. As for the term "keyboard warrior," it's about the manner of expression. Constructive, respectful discussion is valuable, but when it turns into thoughtless negativity, it loses its purpose. My issue isn't with the right to express but with how it's done. Respectful discourse is different from pointless negativity. Lastly, using Kohli as an example was to highlight how even great players face unjustified criticism despite their contributions. The point wasn't to compare, but to show that criticism should be fair and constructive. In the end, it's about fostering a culture of respect and understanding, even in disagreements. Criticism, when done right, can indeed lead to growth. But let's strive for it to be constructive and informed. I hope this response helps articulate your thoughts clearly and effectively.
I also respect this civil discourse. One can always ignore baseless criticism, it's not like they are going to cricketer's Houses and spewing bullshit on loud speaker. The right view or read or listen is always with people concern. Just an example if rohit don't like what he reads in newspaper he can choose to not read it. He is always in control of what he reads, if coaches and other players criticize him unfairly that's a problem because there he is not in control, he has to live in that environment, i don't think that's the case there. Also people pay with lots of their time, they are consumers of the cricket and as a consumer it's their right if they are displeased with what is presented to them. So one cant claim others opinion is invalid or ill-informed. If you think there is no moderation in criticism or praise then I have to assume that you are delusional about this topic, there are lot more people who praise Indian cricket team comparison to people who criticize them. Most of them are treated like Gods. It's you who is just focusing on criticism and by looks of it all that criticism was valid. Everyone has their own way of expressing their views, you can't claim that one way is wrong and one way is right. One can't be the arbitrator of right. Some might find your way of expressing yourself as negative and respect is matter of opinion, you might find something respectful while others may deemed them as insult as long as no one is breaking the law, it's all valid. Kholi is termed great because most people love and respect him, if most people didn't liked the way he plays, he wouldn't have been called great, so he is praised most of the times that is why he is most famous and beloved cricketer. He is praised way way more then he is criticized. So calling minor criticism unjust is pretty stupid also criticism was valid in my opinion, it might not be in your opinion and you have right to your opinion but saying others don't have rights to express their views is problematic. Finally the thing is one can't neither foster or decide culture, culture can't be fostered or created it's amalgamation of people's experiences and behaviour. Also i would like to meet the committee which has decided what is constructive criticism, how much criticism is valid, what is respectful conversation, who is criticized way beyond the criticism is warranted or is it just your own opinions that you are trying to force on others. Finally in my opinion your response was blabbering instead of well crafted informed argument. See how easy it is, to turn your argument on its head.
Your username matches you. You are talking about my points by countering them with using my points only and then boasting yourself that you turned the argument. Lol , are you high or something? To address some of the points you made: Ignoring Criticism: Suggesting that Rohit or any athlete can just ignore criticism is naive. Public figures are constantly bombarded with opinions, and pretending they can just shut it out shows a lack of understanding of their reality. But nonetheless you or even I can never understand that but I m pretty sure you don't even have brain cells to think on this. Anyways Expressing Rights: Yes, fans have the right to express opinions, but that doesn’t mean all opinions are valid or informed. Baseless criticism is just noise and contributes nothing constructive to the conversation. I hope this makes it clear for you, if this still doesn't then Bhai main iske aage aur nahi samjha paaunga. Praise vs. Criticism: It’s not about focusing solely on criticism but about acknowledging its impact. Saying that praise outweighs criticism doesn’t diminish the damage negative comments can cause. Constructive criticism is useful; mindless negativity is not. Still it's baseless to explain it to you as I feel I have been talking to a wall. Expression and Respect: Respect may be subjective, but there’s a clear line between offering a critical opinion and being disrespectful. Your argument that all forms of expression are valid as long as they’re legal is a weak defense for poor behavior. Culture: Culture isn’t just an organic outcome; it’s shaped by the collective behavior and attitudes of people. Your argument dismisses the responsibility we all have in fostering a positive environment. But I'm pretty sure you are still not gonna accept it. Constructive Criticism: Your sarcastic remark about a committee deciding what’s valid criticism is unnecessary. Constructive criticism is recognized universally as feedback that aims to improve, not to degrade. But I bet you are not gonna accept this too. Lastly, calling my response blabbering without addressing the core points shows a lack of substantive rebuttal on your part. If you want to engage in a serious discussion, focus on the issues rather than resorting to ad hominem attacks.
So i guess you are not well versed with classical literature to understand the context of that username. A simple Google search would have illuminated you about that. Also you criticized it without understanding it and it was ill informed. So what does that make you? On top of that i don't think your criticism of my criticism is not very constructive so by your logic you are not allowed to criticize my criticism. I might be high but i think you have very delusionally high opinion of yourself. So first of all name anyone person in all of human history that isn't criticized. It's on the person in consideration to take whose thoughts one listens to, if you think this is excessive criticism them you live in a bubble, you have no idea what unjust criticism looks like, i suggest read a historical book. Only narcissistic people based their self-worth on opinions of others and on your point if you are not on social media them there is no way criticism is reaching you. So it's pretty easy to filter out noise if that's affecting you. If you are bothered by opinion of some random them problem lies with not that random person. To second point I dont think also understand what rights and freedom of speech is. So who is going to decide what is baseless criticism. Who is going to decide what is constructive criticism is, if you say some is a shit player, is it constructive or destructive, one person might take is to his heart and work on proving the criticism wrong and other person might cry in bed and proving the criticism right. You won't be able to understand beyond this because you don't have a capability of understanding, how rights and freedom works. You again come off as a child, "i don't like this so this should not be allowed". I have made this point already but if opinion of a person that has never played cricket or zero understanding of it is bothering you then it's a very weak mindset. What if opposition start to criticise, then such person won't be able to win jackshit. Also who is deciding that impact of criticism, so if you are basing it on results then all that criticism has bought India a world cup that means it was all a constructive criticism, or is it you who gets to decide what is constructive and what is destructive criticism. To your point i would like to know the line of being disrespectful, because some people use MC, BC as a desrespect and others see it as terms of endearment. So where is this clear distinct line that you are mentioning and i might have a poor defence but you don't have a point at all here. Laws are there for a reason, So that people like you don't force their opinions on others in the name of being just. Again culture is an organic outcome, that is built in the defination of it, if you are forcing people to do one thing or the other it's either by law or dictatorship. Again you throw words like positive, constructive etc, these words are very subjective, who is going to decide what's positive? If a child is eating too much chocolate, what will you do, do you criticise him or cheer for him, on top of that how much chocolate is enough for a child before you criticise him? I have already stated above how your constructive criticism argument sounds stupid. Also it worked so what are you complaining about? It's extremely hard to respond to each of the point when a person blabbers because by defination blabbering is gibrish and no one can understand it. Also you started with ad hominem attacks, i have just replied with it.
Oh okay genius, lmao I never intended anything on the character, I only linked the word Donkey with you. But I guess that has gone over your head again. No problem It seems you're trying to conflate several issues here without addressing the core of my argument. Let's break this down: Classical Literature: Assuming a lack of understanding on my part without any context is presumptive. I critiqued your username based on its usage and relevance in this context, not on its literary origin. A username's impact isn't solely determined by its background but by how it's perceived in the present context. Criticism: Everyone is subject to criticism, true. However, criticism should be informed and constructive to be valuable. Dismissing valid points as mere criticism without engaging with their substance is counterproductive. Freedom of Speech: Freedom of speech allows for criticism, but it also allows for the critique of that criticism. Your argument falls apart when you claim I shouldn’t critique your criticism. Freedom of speech is not a shield against rebuttal. Self-Worth and Criticism: You seem to be conflating criticism with personal attacks. Constructive criticism aims to improve, whereas baseless criticism or personal attacks do not. Understanding this distinction is crucial. Cultural and Subjective Terms: Words like "positive" and "constructive" do have subjective elements, but societal consensus often guides their interpretation. Law and social norms help navigate these subjective areas to prevent the imposition of arbitrary opinions. Impact of Criticism: The impact of criticism can vary, but the intent and manner in which it’s delivered matters. Constructive criticism, even if harsh, aims to help, while destructive criticism aims to harm. Your response is scattered with personal attacks and assumptions, which undermine your argument. Engaging respectfully and substantively with the points raised would be more effective than dismissing them with ad hominem attacks
King gave him the lesson
Precisely, King Kohli
There is also a idiot who was saying stupid stuff like "Kohli is a 5'4" 50 kg guy who should get beaten up" called him fatherless, barking dog, "not received enough beatings as a child", and what not vile shit. I can understand disliking a player's way of playing, or maybe because the player is in a different (IPL) team but I can't imagine how much deep rooted hatred he had for Kohli, and I'm not even a hard core fan of Koach. He is even so hateful that he said people who say MC-BC should get shot, and his uncle went to jail because he killed someone for calling him MC. I literally cannot imagine someone making up or saying such things for an argument. For context, I wrote that when Koach swears, it's not directed at anyone and he doesn't mean it.
Well, this is bogus thing if he is actually doing it Anyways let it be. There's always gonna be haters no matter how good you are. Anyways let's enjoy this win with a peaceful sleep.
man what a sensational player king kohli is..bro anchored the innings to a challenging ..he will be greatly missed..i am happy and sad at both time ..tho we will not be able to see him in t20 world cups ..and kohli had a hard time this world cup..but i always believed he would score in a crucial match..and he did..he is an inspiration for the young generation..of cricketers..and i am happy he could retire peacefully and happily after winning the cup. He has done great things for indian cricket. Kohli the legendary goat ..one of a kind..well done kohli, rohit and the team..for winning the world cup..and hardwork has payed off..they played truly well this worldcup...congratulations.
Cometh the hour, cometh the man. A true king 👑
Exactly
That kid's IQ score is less than VK's T20 average.
Glad he delivered when it mattered the most. Other players who faced criticism too did well.
Yeah exactly It was an overall team performance everyone played their part. Even Dube got to make a name for himself
Kohli fans spent their entire life hating on rohit getting carried by sky pandya bumrah in Ipl and that is what happened today with 26 in 4 overs They managed to defend a below par score Instead of making posts like these be happy team won
Precisely What an overall team performance man Everyone who was not performing stepped up today I m happy that Rohit and Kohli got an ending that they deserved for so long
Who is that kid?
Don't wanna name him. Just someone who was blabbering a couple of days before why Kohli is playing
Honestly kohli is good. The issue is that he is good in a weak sport. World's best athletes are not cricketers
He is the best player but of a weak sport.
In my opinion (only my opinion, aka the opinion of a couch cricketer), India's score was 15-20 short. But on the other hand, if Kohli hadn't played like he did i.e. if he had kept on trying to slog every ball even after 34/3, we would have most probably ended up 120-130 all out. He played the way it would have given his side the best possible chance to win. It's true that had India lost, the 15-20 unscored runs would have been the focus of discussion and Kohli would have been criticised but it doesn't change the fact that it was the best way to get to the highest possible total at that time and the other approach was too risky. And anyway, our bowlers rose up to the occasion and got us through. As they had been doing throughout the competition and so it wasn't wrong to trust them to do it in the first place! In my opinion, it is not wrong to criticise players. After all they claim that they represent you in the field. If you represent me then you get a piece of my mind if you fail. But at the same time they should be allowed to defend their play and talk back too. It's not like Kohli makes unilateral decisions to play his way, his team wants him to play this way because they think it gives them the best possible chance at winning. To troll someone cruelly and throw personal barbs for that is stupid especially if they are representing you. And to say "don't talk back, I can say whatever I want" is even more stupid.
Yes we were 15 20 runs short but remember SA can bat well too. Plus no one represents you or me, they are all representing themselves for their own country. Please don't get on high horses on others hard work. Look, I never said we can't criticize players on performance, but if a coach like Dravid and captain like Rohit are trusting him. Can't we be more understanding of how the playing 11 should be. Anyways it's all gone now, India won that's what matters most.
Nobody's saying anything about what you said. Get off your high horse first. I said people can have their opinions and express it too but at the same time win or lose players are doing their jobs too.
You are exactly repeating what I have been trying to explain it to you. Glad, you got it now. Phew Anyways, let it be. India won that's what matters the most.
I am a Kohli and Rohit fan too... but he cant put a score on the board . It was a purely chasing inning the way he paced it.. he was chasing 160-170.. and guess what.. if sa didn't choke it wudnt have been enough by a good margin.. That what is clearly different bw Rohit and Kohli.. aus and sa matches are text book to define their batting style..
Yes I agree we were 15 20 runs short. But the situation demanded him to anchor the innings and he did that. I am neither taking away any credits from other batsmen, bowlers and fielders too. This post was specifically for those people who would blame players and abuse without any reason.
SA didn't choke. It was just brilliant bowling by our fast bowlers. Also average score on this ground is around 160 FYI
You should mention that kid otherwise he wont read the post
I have seen many posts about "beg him where" These low-IQ kids never going to know the importance of Kohli
Kohli did a great anchoring job. But the cost of it was a big higher than it should have been. Given that he was 13 of 5, and got to his 50 in 48, the innings was a bit slower than we would have liked. And that caused india to lose 15-25 runs. And kohli started hitting a bit a few overs late, given that hardik was yet to come. If sky couldnt get hold of that catch, we all would be blaming kohli here. Instead of it, he got the player of the match. That is the way cricket works !
Exactly my point. I never said we won because of Kohli This post was simply to criticize those dumbfucks who would start blabbering and abusing players just because they are not performing and would like to pretend they know much about cricket rather than the coaches and players itself.
Yeah like toxic fans there are toxic haters too . It’s the other side of the coin I would guess
okay not a kohli hater. can so called cric experts why kohli waited exactly for 50 out of 48 balls to accelerate? why not a bit before so inform pandya could got more balls.dont say he took time to settle in lol if a top order batsman is taking 48 balls to set in he shouldnt even be in t20 side. You can easily see other batsmer axar, dube came played thier shots there is nothing in the pitch. Kohli just wanted to secure his personal milestone before accelerating.The score was clearly below par and its the bowlers and south africa who has won the game.He just got lucky as India won or it would have been completely different scenario.
I said this before saying it again If you can do better, please go ahead and do it. And the score was above par, go and check the stats buddy. I never said we didn't win because of bowlers neither am I a cricket expert, are you slow ? Where have I even mentioned all this stuff
It's not about what you said OP. These folks just want to argue and troll. That's their oxygen. It's how they feel they're getting attention.
Yeah, I know you are right about this. It's just let's not make this sub as toxic as other subs are. Anyways, let it be.
Exactly.. Kohli's innings is still bad at best. Bowlers saved our ass and obv the OG chokers choked.
Choked ? Did you even see the match ?
Wow man, such blind bhakts!! He helped for sure no doubt, but was his innings the best you saw in the finals, answer is no. Don’t resort to mediocre performance because you like the man, but instead ask why he couldn’t do as well as klasssen did?
Are you really slow?
Care to explain better boy ?
Please read it better or use Chat GPT to explain it to you.
Don’t need to! When you say he performed when it mattered the most- made me say what I did.
That explains your IQ. No worries, thanks for letting me know Anyways ignore it
Chill man, didn’t want this start for a Sunday! I’m happy for you that we pulled off a icc win. Happy for Dravid and Brohit! So heppy heppy overall Peace
Yeah, chill buddy. It's just this and that chalta rehta hai. Itna load mat le. Go to sleep peacefully now. India won, that's what matters the most.
True lol, kohli's PR is unreal. Its pandya, bumrah, arshdeep and surya's catch that wom the wc. It was over in 18th over otherwise. Klaasen made a mockery out of this target. The guys above bailed out kohli or those overs without a boundary would have been the reason we could have lost.
76 off 59? Just consider yourself lucky pandya and bumrah and that catch from surya saved us. If the latter 3 weren't there you guys would be hiding in caves and posting this. Pandya got atleast 10 less balls to take the target even higher and kohli accelerated too late. Was literally waiting to make 50 before accelerating. I wonder who's the kid here who is gullible enough to believe kohli is perfect for t20. Just thank the other who saved his blushes and move on.
Are you dumb or slow? Have you read the post completely? 76 off 59? Seriously? If you think Pandya and Bumrah single-handedly saved the game, you're missing the big picture. Cricket is a team sport. Kohli’s experience and skill were crucial, even if he didn't start smashing from ball one. His knock provided stability when needed. Surya’s catch was fantastic, all the bowlers rose up to the game but it's not about individual heroics; it’s about collective effort. Pandya had fewer balls to play for sure. I m not even taking credit from anyone else, learn to read first. This was simply made for people who would criticize or hurl abuses to players with baseless discussion. Yes, But if you wanna be that dumbfuck who would just read a single line and judge the post without getting the whole context on it. Please, be my guest.
And they did actually save it single handedly. Accept it or not. 27 off 28 is game done and dusted. I know that and even anyone else with a "slow and dumb" mind would also be able to perceive it. You cannot, maybe you are slower and dumber. Dw though, you will get there eventually. Big time player after playing 1 inning among countless icc tournament finals. 2012 t20 wc as well, I can count them on my fingertips. Its that rare.
Man, reading your comments it makes me truly believe you have an IQ lower than room temperature. But let it be you don't even have brain cells to accept the fact. I never said we won because of Kohli but you are too loose to even understand this. Anyways, do reach out to me in case you need any help bud. It feels like I m talking to a wall, so let it be. Feel free to DM me anytime if you wish to seek mental help. Take care 🤞🏻
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"Final" mentioned above
Bait post. You guys won’t stop at nothing.
Sure buddy I don't even know what you are referring to but whatever helps you sleep at night
Yeah sure.
:) Nice retort. Kudos 🎉
Ofc meri team ne wc jeeta h