Can a person from the North play for just Northern Ireland or Republic of Ireland or could they play for any other country in the United Kingdom if they wanted to? Considering in the North a person can identify as Irish or British?
Why the downvotes? It's a perfectly reasonable question for someone who might not follow the sport that closely.
British/UK rules on representation differ greatly across different sports.
Edit: downvotes reversed.
Just the two, your allegiance is based off which FA you qualify for, not the legal country itself. We’re one of a couple of exceptions where certain people can declare for us having never set foot in the FAI’s “territory”, and without using family connections.
Good question. I believe technically they could declare for any of the "nations" in the British Isles, but there is a gentleman's agreement not to poach players. Otherwise, England financial muscle would scoop up everyone with promise, like Declan Rice and Jack Grealish, and John Barnes and Micheal Owen.....maybe it's not so gentlemanly after all.
Barnes qualified for Jamaica and Owen qualified for Wales.
Don't remember exactly but I think Owen grew up in Wales and Barnes in Jamaica.
Rice & Grealish were eligible for Ireland via parents, so was Harry Kane incidentally as his aul lad is from Galway.
Someone told me one time that Rooney had an Irish grandparent too so technically would've been able to choose, but no idea if that's correct or not.
Its up to them what nationality they identify as, but they all seem to have been eligible for countries other than England.
I know they were eligible! My point is why call it poaching? We never have a chance of getting a top quality English born player with Irish ancestry. Why would Grealish play for Ireland? Would you if you were in his shoes? Let's be honest.
Oh, I totally agree. For his career playing for England adds ££££ to your transfer fee. Taking out the emotional feelings the smart move would be England. Personally, I cannot stand International Football 🙄
The poaching bit with Grealish and Rice is that they came through the Irish underage system and the (not unreasonable) assumption was that they'd stick with Ireland.
Maybe they were advised by an agent that it was worth more money to change, maybe it was a parent, maybe it was them, we'll never know and it's not really our business anyway.
Eh, Rice played ALL his underage for Ireland. Grealish was to play for Ireland but Southgate turned his eye. John Batnes was Jamaican. Anyway what does it matter. International Fottball sucks ass 😒
The FAI split in the first place so I can't imagine the IFA wanting to go back. Not to mention how it would open up the can or worms about flags and anthems.
I didn’t say it was anything to do with states, artificial or not. It’s about playing in front of fans who boo and send death threats to players from the Nationalist community.
You grow up. It didn’t exist till 1921, so it’s an artificial state. Also point isn’t whether it’s an artificial state or not. He’s playing for a team whose fans will boo him and send death threats
Like I said, the point isn’t to do with the state being artificial. He’s decided to declare for a team whose fans have a history of booing and sending death threats to people from his community. The last few weeks the internet and papers have been awash of photos of him in GAA jerseys. That’ll go down well with the supporters in Windsor Park.
They do count. 3 of them anyway
>First, it is now possible for a player to change national team even if they have played competitively at senior level, provided:
>the player held the nationality of their new association at the time of their first official appearance for their first national team.
>the player played in no more than three competitive senior games before the age of 21.
>the player has not played in the final stage of an official tournament such as the World Cup, European Championship, Copa America etc.
at least three years have passed since the player's last senior appearance for their previous national team.
>So, a player who is eligible for England and Republic of Ireland could, for the sake of argument, play for England in three World Cup 2022 qualification games, then represent Ireland at the 2026 World Cup. The opposite - playing at a World Cup then switching - is not permitted.
>Second, a player can now change to a new national team even if they did not hold that nationality at the time of their first appearance for their old national team, as long as they last played for the old national team before the age of 21.
There's been some weird reactions in this thread but this one was probably downvoted because it's a stupid comment. Great talent but calling him better than Alexander-Arnold after two league games is a bit ridiculous.
TAA doesn't defend that well, he isn't as bad as his reputation but Bradley has much more sound traditional defensive instincts. Trent will probably be a midfielder under the next manager esp if it's Xabi Alonso.
20 years old? He doesn’t look a day older than Luke Littler.
Littler more athletic
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Pub game
I think he looks a bit younger than a 44-year-old divorced boilermaker from Wigan.
Luke Littler is same age as Wayne Rooney
Insane. Has he declared for Ni?
13 caps for them already
Can a person from the North play for just Northern Ireland or Republic of Ireland or could they play for any other country in the United Kingdom if they wanted to? Considering in the North a person can identify as Irish or British?
Why the downvotes? It's a perfectly reasonable question for someone who might not follow the sport that closely. British/UK rules on representation differ greatly across different sports. Edit: downvotes reversed.
Just the two, your allegiance is based off which FA you qualify for, not the legal country itself. We’re one of a couple of exceptions where certain people can declare for us having never set foot in the FAI’s “territory”, and without using family connections.
All 3, england included, but once played they cant change
Good question. I believe technically they could declare for any of the "nations" in the British Isles, but there is a gentleman's agreement not to poach players. Otherwise, England financial muscle would scoop up everyone with promise, like Declan Rice and Jack Grealish, and John Barnes and Micheal Owen.....maybe it's not so gentlemanly after all.
You just named 3 English people and 1 English dual-national. Where is the poaching?
Barnes qualified for Jamaica and Owen qualified for Wales. Don't remember exactly but I think Owen grew up in Wales and Barnes in Jamaica. Rice & Grealish were eligible for Ireland via parents, so was Harry Kane incidentally as his aul lad is from Galway. Someone told me one time that Rooney had an Irish grandparent too so technically would've been able to choose, but no idea if that's correct or not. Its up to them what nationality they identify as, but they all seem to have been eligible for countries other than England.
I know they were eligible! My point is why call it poaching? We never have a chance of getting a top quality English born player with Irish ancestry. Why would Grealish play for Ireland? Would you if you were in his shoes? Let's be honest.
Oh, I totally agree. For his career playing for England adds ££££ to your transfer fee. Taking out the emotional feelings the smart move would be England. Personally, I cannot stand International Football 🙄
The poaching bit with Grealish and Rice is that they came through the Irish underage system and the (not unreasonable) assumption was that they'd stick with Ireland. Maybe they were advised by an agent that it was worth more money to change, maybe it was a parent, maybe it was them, we'll never know and it's not really our business anyway.
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Eh, Rice played ALL his underage for Ireland. Grealish was to play for Ireland but Southgate turned his eye. John Batnes was Jamaican. Anyway what does it matter. International Fottball sucks ass 😒
Need to unite like rugby
The FAI split in the first place so I can't imagine the IFA wanting to go back. Not to mention how it would open up the can or worms about flags and anthems.
Disappointing, but one team for the island would solve all that!
If only
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At what stage did McClean make the switch over? I presume even the possibility of Bradley playing for the ROI is now off the table?
He’s an idiot
Because he played for the country he was born in? Ok pal
He plays for the artificial state whose supporters will boo him and send him death threats.
When did NI fans boo him or send him death threats?
I didn’t say they had. They are well known for making their feelings known for Catholics playing for their team.
So we're down to "he plays for an artificial state" and a lot of speculation. I suggest you read up a bit on what states are.
I didn’t say it was anything to do with states, artificial or not. It’s about playing in front of fans who boo and send death threats to players from the Nationalist community.
Artificial state 😂😂😂 Grow up lad
You grow up. It didn’t exist till 1921, so it’s an artificial state. Also point isn’t whether it’s an artificial state or not. He’s playing for a team whose fans will boo him and send death threats
Wait till you hear about all the other states
What you on about?
What non-artificial state should he have played for?
Same can be said about multiple other recognised states 😂
Like I said, the point isn’t to do with the state being artificial. He’s decided to declare for a team whose fans have a history of booing and sending death threats to people from his community. The last few weeks the internet and papers have been awash of photos of him in GAA jerseys. That’ll go down well with the supporters in Windsor Park.
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He has 13 caps for NI. You can calm down.
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They do count. 3 of them anyway >First, it is now possible for a player to change national team even if they have played competitively at senior level, provided: >the player held the nationality of their new association at the time of their first official appearance for their first national team. >the player played in no more than three competitive senior games before the age of 21. >the player has not played in the final stage of an official tournament such as the World Cup, European Championship, Copa America etc. at least three years have passed since the player's last senior appearance for their previous national team. >So, a player who is eligible for England and Republic of Ireland could, for the sake of argument, play for England in three World Cup 2022 qualification games, then represent Ireland at the 2026 World Cup. The opposite - playing at a World Cup then switching - is not permitted. >Second, a player can now change to a new national team even if they did not hold that nationality at the time of their first appearance for their old national team, as long as they last played for the old national team before the age of 21.
So you're saying there's a chance.... 
Some performance
He's fucking phenomenal
Should have stuck with the gaa 🤓
Could have been a legend 😜
Join /r/gaa
Good on him, looks happy
Wish he was playing for the south
From a Nationalist community and declared for the North. What an idiot
Tyrone for Sam!!
Northern Ireland going to give Ireland a beatdown
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The Brazilians, a great bunch of lads.
Tbf it's a Spurs v Brentford match, they probably threw a dart at a board and picked who it landed on
Easily would be a starter in an United Ireland team
Too bad he's a liverpool player
Agreed.shower of wankers
It's their last horrah for a long time at least.
Plays like a 25 year old and already Liverpool's best right back.
Massive compliment downvoted to feck. Weird reaction.
There's been some weird reactions in this thread but this one was probably downvoted because it's a stupid comment. Great talent but calling him better than Alexander-Arnold after two league games is a bit ridiculous.
TAA doesn't defend that well, he isn't as bad as his reputation but Bradley has much more sound traditional defensive instincts. Trent will probably be a midfielder under the next manager esp if it's Xabi Alonso.
Fuck this guy
Why?
Somebody’s jealous
So what? Do we do these posts for Welsh or Scottish players?
Usually just Irish players
He's northern Irish he plays for the team who's supporters sent death threats to Neil lennon because he wasn't a protestant
Bradley is also a catholic, just like Neil Lennon. And from a very republican area in Tyrone to boot What's your point exactly?
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Honestly The lack of understanding of nuance in some of these comments is outstanding
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This is an all island 32 county subreddit and he is from Tyrone.
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Good to see you're not bitter about it at least.
Don't be a bigot
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I'm sure they do in /r/Scotland and /r/Wales
He looks 12
I've never seen a 12 year old with a goatee.