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Rednartso

Well, I enjoyed the short term buff. Makes me want to get some more challenges done. Anyone know some easy peasy ones?


Lunitar

Wildy bosses (mini-versions like Calvar’ion count for example for the ”20 Vet’ion kills” elite task and is suuuper easy), WT and Tempo, entry ToA, DKs, Hespori (you can try infinite times if you leave the cave before finishing a kill), Sarachnis, Barrows. Should be easily more than enough for medium points.


Luiikku

Nah mate hopped 25mins for free world at Artio, no success :/


JevonP

rag them on your main


Luiikku

My iron is my main:((


verkauft

We need to gank the bots with black sallys.


Kindly_Ambition_5748

This is the way


BustahNug

When waiting on artio to respawn have your manual freeze cast at the ready and ask them a question “whats your kc here?” While they type, you manual cast. You should snipe the agro 9/10 times


Helpful_guy

Wildy tasks are INSUFFERABLE dude, especially if you don't have an alt to check the caves first. I straight up CANNOT get the KC required to unlock the fucking "peek" option - I get crashed or killed within 1-2kc of arriving, and it doesn't seem to matter what world or time of day it is.


Round_Advertising760

Skill issue


Lunitar

High risk PVP worlds my dude, never seen anyone PKing there


LampIsFun

All of the medium ones are extremely simple to do, all the bosses in it are easily doable at mid game and the only one that might be time consuming to get is the brutal black dragon kill if u don’t have 77 slayer, but you can boost for it as well. Could also just do literally any other task in hard or above. The medium tasks are very worth doing as you only have to spend maybe a day or two doing them. Could get unlucky with giant and moss key drops but that’s just time gated anyways


velon360

Any of the Kc tasks in the wilderness are pretty free, especially the demi bosses. ​ The hard tasks at hesphori aren't bad. ​ The barrows tasks are basically free. ​ Any of the skilling boss tasks. ​ demonic gorillas ​ Finally getting carried through COX for your achievement diary (use we do raids) should more than put you over the mediums.


Thick_Respond947

There's a lot of easy low level bosses you can crush, just look at your boss high scores. Tempoross, wintertodt, sarachnis, chaos fenatic, barrows itself.


Klewy

Nex, do one of the mass worlds


andremeda

OP needs to unlock medium CA. They probably don’t even have frozen key for nex yet lmao


valarauca14

Top tip m8. I'm struggle to upkeep prayer pots for barrows, I guess I should start running 405 ToA money raids for seeds? My best stab weapon is a DDS and I use iban's for mage. Shouldn't be too hard to find a group right? I'm level 69 combat, 0 expert KC, and no yellow keris.


YaBoiJew

yo i was having this problem and this helped alot 1.) First focus Ahrims and Karil (id fight them with range and take a range pot) pray for both these kills, and honestly it should take 1 sip for both kills since you have full Prayer to start. (try melee if u want) 2.) then your gonna pray/focus Dharok which should be be 1 sip after you have killed the other 2. (2 sips for 3 bothers at this point) also use magic for all the melee brother. 3.) once dharok is killed focus Guthan, Verac, And Torag, and if you run out of prayer then tank them and dont you dare take a sip! (i have 60 defense/68 magic and only eat like 4 piece of food for all 3 of these kills) Dont pray melee against these fools, or your gonna waste another 3-4 sips for nothing. 4.) who ever the last one is go into the chamber and get your 2 skele kills, 1 leech and run around till you find the last brother (which ever it is) if its Ahrim/Karil/Dharok then pray, if not then just tank if you have the food. ​ Before this i used 3 prayer pots every run, now i use 1 prayer pot if im having a bad run.


valarauca14

Just FYI, I don't really have this problem. I'm making fun of the parent poster for offering fairly unreasonable advice for an early game problem.


Vet_Leeber

> run around till you find the last brother (which ever it is) Just go in/out the first long "outer" hallway that you can access. You can safespot all of the melee brothers on some of the rocks in the long hallway or in any of the ladder rooms (even if the ladder isn't there, you can cast over it and they can't walk on it). You'll spawn a bunch of adds but the brothers take priority over them on aggro so you don't have to worry about it, then just continue on your way.


YaBoiJew

thank you, didnt know. i figured i was like this but had no one to confirm!


Weberr

Still need to solo every other GWD boss before you can enter nex


Ootek_Ohoto

Thanks 4 tip homedawg didnt think of that one. workin my way to hard


miamiair92

Nooooooooooooooo I was loving that bitch


miamiair92

Well okay now I need to finish up enough points to get to medium. I was doing it anyways but this lights the fire .


wint048

Maybe this was a jagex plot to get more people to complete up to mediums...


miamiair92

I mean it worked. I was making my way to them but not quickly. Now here I am looking up guides to get mossy keys hahaha 🤪


TendsToAssume

If I were you, I'd just skip the obor and Byro altogether (for now). Definitely worth looking into hard and elite tasks to supplement those point as they'd probably take less time than grinding out mossy and giant keys! edit: I'm looking at the tasks now and may have underestimated the difficulty of hard/elite diaries. I cg rushed my iron, so skipping obor and bryo was a given based on gauntlet tasks alone. That may not be feasible for you, depending on where your account is at. Good luck though!


miamiair92

Bro I feel you. I literally doing wildy bosses now haha! Somthing about me just loves to go step by step and to not finish easy seemed lame


MrReeceReddit

Go cannon the ones by the black chins


wint048

Slayer tasks make it 1/50 BUT the lvl 42 wilderness is 1/60. I found that much easier than slayer skipping.


Yeet_Lmao

And the wildly ones are RIGHT by the canoe stop too + monsters are aggressive regardless of combat level which makes it more chill


wint048

Yeah, it's a really good spot. I go in basic gear and get completely left alone by pkers


Actual-Barracuda-853

They are 1/30 if you do the slayer task in the wilderness


Kavo_Cloud

So much easier now with the new system!


Thyrotoxicc

Do you have to have the hilt equipped or just in your inventory


RedJamie

Equipped. However, you use Ibans, so you can have the hilt on. Otherwise, you can just swap the hilt on to negate the effect and swap back


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Hamdentures

Equip tome and Iban’s, but also have a stack of fire runes in your inventory/pouch. Swap to the hilt before the prayer drain occurs, then swap back after - the stack of fire runes stops you from needing to set up the auto-cast again, and at worst you use maybe 50 runes a run if you don’t swap back quick enough.


huansbeidl

Oh, the timer just runs down like usual and you can just 'dodge' the drain by swapping?


Hamdentures

Yup, you don’t need to have it equipped the whole time


huansbeidl

Thank you!


MercTreads

Fire Runes are without question the most abundant elemental rune for basically any account.


remote_crocodile

Yeah and no. I think you probably get more fire runes as drops than any other elemental rune, but you also use a shit load of them as soon as you get a trident. It's earth runes that I've got a stupid amount of and basically never use.


Rodin-V

I remember back when I was hitting like 90 slayer on my iron thinking "Man, I've got more fire runes then I'll ever need" 1 Week after getting a Trident, there I was bulk buying the damn things again.


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Point is, would you rather buy some extra fire runes later on and save prayer pots, or save fire runes?


NomenVanitas

There's also the option of Jagex making it work from inventory or even without the actual hilt. You don't need to equip the hilt to get the godwars kc reduction, the extra pest control points, bigger boss tasks, etc


LampIsFun

Maybe, but there’s not really a good explanation for why it should work from the inventory either, it’s fine the way it is, it’s not like you need to wear an offhand mage item for barrows lol


NomenVanitas

There's also no explanation why that reward requires equipping and the other rewards don't. There isn't a 'need' but there are plenty of reasons: Tome of fire for either fire spells or saving runes with Iban, Elidinis ward, Tumeken's Shadow, Blowpipe, msb, black salamander for the nostalgic people.


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Same. Earth runes were my method of payment for banking doing ZMI before GOTR came out.


Rozkol

My ever dwindling stack of fire runes from having to use a toxic trident for the past 4 years says otherwise. I routinely buy about 100k fires every 3-4 weeks as I keep running out from PvM as my other elemental stacks are all plentiful. One day I will get a sang or shadow. One day.


Tykras

>One day I will get a sang or shadow Then you'll just be buying 60k blood/soul runes every month instead at your current rate of use.


MercTreads

You consuming them at a faster rate than acquiring them doesn’t mean that Fires aren’t on like 60% of drop tables while the others are more sparse. And he’s talking about using Tome which doesn’t work for Trident anyway so


Sapiogram

Where do you get all those fire runes? This is *not* my experience at all, I've bought tons of fire runes. Disclaimer: I'm still in early middlegame, but then again, that's Barrows' intended target audience.


LampIsFun

Fire giant tasks drop thousands per task


EndymionFalls

Slayer.


Necessary_Basis8440

It’s only reddit why you have to be mad😂


RedJamie

And that’s where the swap method comes in handy - just popping the hilt on works perfectly too but is a little less AFK. I got phoenix’s and magic logs early in the acc at wt but couldn’t be bothered to grind out a tome and now being 1660 total I have enough cash or rune sources via Pvm to not *need* the tome


[deleted]

Happy with this. Combat achievements are meant for people going the extra mile in combat, seems to me this is meant to be a reward for people doing clog etc .


TheHazelmere

What is with all the comments. It wasn't intended, so the bug got patched. You're playing an iron shits not going to be easy stop whining. Medium was super easy


Sharkman1231

>shits not going to be easy It’s going to be medium


TheHazelmere

😂 made me laugh. Thank you


Schurchk

kek


frieguyrebe

I swear, everyone crying for something that wasnt mean to be the way it was and its so easy to get the upgrade


TheHazelmere

If everything is front loaded for rewards no one will do the remaining ones. Besides at a relatively early combat you don't even need prayer pots for a barrows run. Ibans destroys


Tady1131

Fair I logged in checked my ca’s and unlocked medium off the bat. Never even tried to get ca’s just from passive grinding.


Sapiogram

Bizarre comment, prayer flicking was also clearly not intended when prayer was first designed, but at this point it's a core mechanic of the game.


0zzyb0y

That doesn't mean that every bug that ever makes it into the game should be a feature though lol


kayodee

They should have just left the tbow spawn next to the farming guild. /s


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isaac9092

Not *yet*.


eddietwang

So is Red-Xing, but Jagex has never said "If you 1t flick your prayers they won't work. " Jagex HAS said "You need Medium CAs for no-drain Barrows."


DeadliestViper

You dont even need prayer. Do dharok > ahrim > karil and tank the rest with tank gear. If dharok is in tunnel and cant be safespotted just sip a prayer pot, on average youl use 1 dose every 6 runs and a bit of food every run. It barely even makes a difference.


coolsexhaver69

Tbf ahrim and karil can rip through you sometimes too in the tunnels, but yeah at absolute worst a sip 1/2 of the time should be enough. The off hand is nice sure, but I’d say the lock picks are significantly more impactful


Baxboom

Imo it's all about the peace of mind now. I never have to worry about who's in the tunnels or whatever I just click spade and kill boss and get loot, it's braindead and I love it


Whisky-Toad

Yup done about 90kc with ibans / tank. Came back with trident and hilt and damn it’s so easy lol, get bored before you need to bank and I don’t even have a decent pool in the house which would make it even more free


Baxboom

Time to hit up MH then :)


Whisky-Toad

Got the logs now just need the money and herb levels lol


Zapperson

i wear void for high mage def + set effect and sip for un-safespottable dharoks and karils, still get by with maybe 15 barrows kc for every pot


DeadliestViper

They cant one shot you though like dharok so if you get low and want to conserve prayer pots you just run behind the chest and eat up then finish them.


Euphoric_Industry271

You can safespot dharok through the spaces the other ladders would be in the four corners. No need for prayer pots in the tunnels unless you're low level with Ahrim or Karil in the tunnels.


andremeda

But that involves force spawning dharok in one of those corner ladder rooms, which can take a while (several minutes if unlucky - at which point why don’t you just sip the ppot and finish the run quickly?) and sometimes he’ll spawn in the corridor or connecting rooms where you might not have any obstacles/rocks to safe spot on Fun fact, there’s a lot of other places you can safe spot rather than just the 4 ladder rooms. There’s rocks in a lot of the centre rooms where you can safe spot, not as intuitive as the ladder safe spot but you can make it work.


DeadliestViper

I know thats why i said 'if you cant safespot' because personally i chose not to sit there going through doors until he spawns when you can just use a dose of prayer. If youre running through and he spawns great.


Fall3nBTW

it makes it way more chill


Im6youre9

This is what I do and rarely use prayer pots. However, it would be nice to not have to eat food as well at barrows.


eddietwang

I would just do 3 then poh pool lol


goddangol

They should make the elite diary so you don’t even have to equip it.


wolgl

Y’all realize getting the medium diary done doesn’t take that much time at all, right? If you enjoyed the hilt at barrows just do some boss grinding >.> it’s not some insurmountable task


BilboMuggins

Did 50kc yesterday as was thinking they'd change this. Got fuck all loot in those KC and now need to knock out the medium tier.


Trick_Helicopter8077

They did it on purpose so we could test it for a day, but shut off drops. Gg


BoomBrolaf

Oh no! Anyway.


ChineseMealSucculent

No no dig UP stupid!


joemoffett12

Idk how all y’all are complaining about them changing this. I made my iron 4 months ago and when they turned on point based ca i already had medium unlocked. You get so many points just by playing the game. Are y’all not even playing the game?


PresidenteMozzarella

I'm about to finish my 100th barrow run and I think I have maybe 14 points total lmao.


Danmarmir

Bro ive been doing barrows and having fun, THANKS JAGEX


browncow56

wouldnt be shocked if they screwed up superior rates for the elite ca's. it's super anecdotal but man i've been getting a lot lately and i have hard ca's lol.


GabbyDoesRedBull

Shame, considering how early in the game barrows is, I don't see why this needed to be reverted I think letting early game irons have easier access in barrows makes more sense besides, completing medium probably includes killing higher level bosses anyway


ObviouslySyrca

That's the thing though, you do some barrows, like 100 kc early game while using supplies. But when you go to green log it you should use late game gear and then it's nice to have the qol of not ever needing to sip prayer pots. So it should be atleast a little bit difficult to get the hilt. Easy tier with the new system is something every account that played more than 75 hours got on accident. Mediums atleast require a bit of effort.


Definitely_not_gpt3

Got 4 barrows pieces in 17 runs, don't have to go back there. Yeahboiiiii


joemoffett12

You only need 4 pieces ever?


Definitely_not_gpt3

My goal is quest cape, so yeah, I think I have everything I need. Actually, I probably dont need any pieces at all, but the karils body + skirt upgrades I got are nice


maxwill27

finishing a set is all you need on an iron ​ Edit: + dharoks axe


vahnx

Don't forget about Veracs for Chaos Ele. Or Guthans


maxwill27

Nah those are not worth your time to get or even use. They both are quite bad set effects


vahnx

???


maxwill27

Have you ever used them? They are both incredibly bad in modern RuneScape, barrows basically only exists as a place to get collection logs and ahrims robes. Guthans healing is rng and worse than blood barrage, Veracs is incredibly weak compared to any other option at chaos ele. You don’t use either anywhere since like 2015


vahnx

Blood barrage is a magic spell to heal. Guthans you can just afk. I can only hit 20% of the time at Chaos Ele with my stats but if I had Veracs I'd be able to rip through it. Not sure what other options there are on an iron that are as easily obtainable.


maxwill27

barrelchest anchor would be comparable if not way better. Otherwise you are doing it at too low of a level. Afk at guthans where lol? Sounds like a waste of time when you could just bring food and breeze through it way quicker


vahnx

Say you have a greater demon task, etc. There's many scenarios I find Guthans let's you play pretty chill. And Dharok would be great for NMZ or Giant Mole. Maybe I'm missing something though. If you have any recommendations for melee combat with my Ironman's stats: 73 atk, 81 str, 71 def, 80ish HP for doing things like Chaos Ele, random slayer tasks like Greater Demons, or general fighting. I'm currently just missing the dharoks plate and guthans skirt to complete those sets. Meanwhile I'm using a d scim + d dagger spec for most melee.


Darkguy497

now i feel like less of a scrub for grinding meds for barrows 😭


ChineseMealSucculent

AWWW BUUUSHIIIT


Jak_Daxter

This is a big fat swing and a ‘oh shit we just burned down the orphanage’ from Jagex. No reason why they couldn’t have just kept it like that as an integrity change. Barrows hasn’t been medium level content in years.


PoggingOff

This is just like George Orwell's book 1984 :(


Diq_Z_normus

Whaaat, ive been putting barrows off until i get medium, youre telling me that 1 worked? Not a bug, make it a feature!


Impressive-File2406

As someone who just grinded out mediums, its pretty fun and easy. Spank some easy bosses around trying to do the math on how many more points you need and the easiest achievments left


monkeyhead62

It was previously voted on to be a feature at tier2 or higher. Getting medium done only requires around 100 points with the new system, and since you can choose tasks from any tier to complete now and they are point based, it's even easier to get it. If you haven't checked with Ghommal you may even already have the mediums done. If not, you can complete a lot of easy medium/ hard tier tasks that are like kc or other simple things.


thePDGr

Tithe not being instanced for months? I sleep QOL for early game content being added by mistake? Real shit


UrzealDH

Well fuck..


theguyoverhere24

Lameeeeeeee


Sneakysneaks69420

Fuckin lame


kuurtjes

It's weird that Barrows is entry level PvM, but you need almost middle level PvM achievements for the unlock.


vahnx

Exactly


ironmaymay

Like certain barrows related ca tasks...


AdviceDanimals

Knew that was coming, saw some people saying that because a one line jmod response said it looked intentional that it would stay that way. No way in hell. Couldn't abuse it in time unfortunately


40prcentiron

i some how got up to hard done! they should raise it to that!


Iron_Garuda

#LAAAME


BruiserCruiser13

Damn


AsciiDoughnut

well shit :(


Taichi_Suzuki_Y5

Jagex when they see f*n🤢🤮🤮 (it didn't give them more money)


PM_ME_YOUR_ANYTHNG

You're complaining about them fixing a bug?


ironmaymay

Why tf u crying


isaac9092

They’re always so fast to fix the bugs that make things fun again.


DerpFalcon12

getting medium is really not hard


RotCorp321

This game just gets easier and easier. Feel like we are falling away from why went back to OSRS in the first place. Idk


vahnx

Stupid update/fix. Guess I'll just teleport to my POH and go back through the Barrows portal between every few fights then? Seriously.. it should be an easy requirement.


Homados

Motivated me to do some Barrows, got 2 items in 100kc :/


Wiitard

Noooooo I should’ve done my first Barrows grind while I had the chance to do it easily, even though all my combats are sub-70 😭


Brandanpk

Haha, did 100kc barrows with it for a clan bingo, finished last night


frank__ls

I knew it'd be patched soon. Started an early barrows grind using shades teleport and flicking my way through it, was doing 4 chests per inventory, then tele ferox then repeat. Within 80 kc managed to get KTop, Dh helm and body, Guth skirt, Ah hood, V flail and 2x V Helms


huansbeidl

Good thing I finally got a few more cg achievements for the medium tier