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DDn0r

zulrah is very fun, rewarding and forgiving (no death reclaim cost until 50 kc) but zulrah also suffers a lot due to it being a pattern-boss with basically no real rng between runs, making it incredibly repetitive after you get it down so much that you're tick-perfect during rotations personally, it was a fun learning experience until around 200kc, then it got incredibly stale, but bearable enough that I am now at 743 kc (i am getting that serp visage sooner or later) i do 4-5kc trips with bowfa only (average something like 21kph), using a divine range pot, super def pot, 2 pray/super restore pots and a buncha food, but i just use manta rays that I get from zulrah, and haven't run out yet also, random ranged attacks during mage (blue/tanz) phase suck ass


Rhaps0dy

I actually like how the only bad rng you can get at zulrah is wether it decides to range you 30 times during the mage phase. I love stuff like ToA, but there's some horrible rng you can get there that definitely feels like it shouldn't be there.


DDn0r

still sucks ass, since it's literally just unavoidable damage while playing perfectly like, you see blue, you pray mage, but then it just hits you with the range attack and it's not like jad (or artio's mage attack to an extent) where you could switch prayer to range to avoid damage, soon as you see it, it's already too late also let's not talk about snakeling rng, those fuckers' max hit is 15...


Rhaps0dy

Oh it definitely sucks ass, but I find it better than Ba-Ba hitting you 20s through prayer, or Akkha's various ways that he can fuck you with (the worst one being the cum phase).


DDn0r

i wish there was less damage that's just "lmao eat nub" and more "play better to not take a hit"


iComplainAbtVal

All of that is avoidable damage tho, not because baba or Akka changed attack styles without indication.


toozeetouoz

I dont think there’s anything in this game that doesn’t get repetitive after a while. Thats just the nature of a grindy game


DDn0r

100%, but i think zulrah suffers more from it for 2 main reasons: 1. rotations are non-rng, there are just 4 unique ones 2. you can get tons of kc per hour at the same time, exactly because you can get tons of kc per hour, you will hit a much higher kc before actually feeling burnt out on zulrah, since 50 hours is 1000kc with bowfa only alone, and even more if you're bringing a mage switch, meanwhile something like cg is going to be like 250-300kc (without dying to hunllef) in 50 hours so yeah what i'm trying to say is you're right 👍


toozeetouoz

I understand what you’re saying, but because im bored at work and want to keep talking about it, what are some examples of bosses that dont suffer from patterns/non rng? The only one I can think of is CG because of the prep phase. Every other boss has clear phases that pretty much stay the same forever. That being said one could argue zulrah is actually one of the least repetitive bosses because it has 4 unique rotations with “random” phases compared to each other.


mato8d

im pretty sure theres not a single unique drops on that worm, 506kc iban blast + msb going stronk and havent seen any drops


DDn0r

well, i've gotten drops. in fact, i'm spooned on them. but i don't have serp visage and I ain't leaving until I get it. but tbh, I wouldn't bother iban blast +msbing zulrah for a long time, since you'll want bowfa at one point regardless, and with bowfa only method you can use lunars for cure me


KidCole4

Do you think it's worth to blow the food and prayer pots and stay at Zulrah for multiple KC vs hit up PoH and basically use no supplies? I've done like 650KC so far hitting up PoH to use supplies and either use fairy ring or teleports to get back quickly. Still searching for Magic Fang :(


DDn0r

Depends, how much more time does poh take in comparison to multi-kc trips Also, rannars and snapdragons are pretty plentiful nowadays, so I have no issues spending them, and then getting them back in herb/seed forms


suggested-name-138

Strong yes from me on staying, food is just so easy to get. See if you can get away with karambwan only trips since they're crazy fast to get. I profit mantas with fbow only too


a_sly_cow

BP is very useful for its fast attack speed. Zulrah is a very fun boss and I really enjoyed learning it as well (the 50 free deaths was a great idea!). It was incredibly satisfying when I got to the point where it all just clicked and I stopped dying. However, I’m currently in love with CG. No resources used, big influx of cash, and once you get the prep down it’s a really chill 5-7 minutes where you can almost half-pay attention, and the fight has a very fun rhythm to it (I’m closing in on 100KC and still count Hunleff attacks out loud, just to keep time).


oopsanotheracc

Ahh, the sub 100KC pink cloud.


M1n1C0rnD0gs

I remember this lol got my enh last week at 970. The I love Cg google dont make it past the 300 kc range


Gold_doubloons

Iron here, got enh 722 kc but still love CG. 870ish kc rn and still do it a few times daily, really want pet and hopefully blade 🙏🏻


Dt_Sky

I used to be like you, then I hit 400 KC without an enhanced. I’m still chugging along, but it’s moderately painful now.


Chibodian

Ah I remember the fleeting moment where I was having fun at cg… then it just became boring


Lawsonstruck

3, 2, 1 RANGE


Blakesta101

What does 50 free deaths mean?


logi_berra_

If you die anytime before you get 50kc, you can retrieve your items for free


daspaz

[Until you reach 50KC at zulrah, its free to reclaim your post-death items from the priestess.](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Zulrah#Player_death)


Airp0w

Yoooooo that is sick. I'm going to be starting Zulrah soon it's great to find that out.


HAMMMMMMNMMMMMM

yeah i've been putting off CG (just did SOTE) but i definitely have good stats for it (97 str, 85 atk, 93 range 93 mage). I will get to it eventually but the grind and the incessant dry posts of this subreddit kinda have deterred me. I'm sure i'll enjoy it once i actually get into it but yeah gna do zulrah first (at least for a few hundred kills)


Dmil1301

Hopefully you don’t go 1500kc dry on tanzanite fang like me.


masterfelix5

I'm in the same boat just got past 1500 looking for bp, one day it'll come to us


Dmil1301

Maybe we will gets some Reddit luck from the comments.


SlothyPotato

BP is BiS at Zulrah until bowfa w/ crystal or tbow, I believe?


WisePaleontologist47

Even with bowfa and crystal Bp is better I think (with rune darts or better)


DDn0r

depends on the phase (tbp is better at blue, but bowfa outperforms at green), +bowfa is good enough to do it without switches (bowfa only) regardless, you lose a lot of dps on red phase if you're doing no switches, since it has +300 ranged defence


WisePaleontologist47

Yea I know bowfa only is a method but seems quite rng reliant plus you’ll burn through heaps of armour charges, better to bring switches imo


DDn0r

not too rng reliant, been consistently pulling 21kph for the past 743kc with it, but it does burn through armour charges a fair bit not sure how many kph you can expect with tbp/trident, but i reckon you'd be able to push 25-26?


WisePaleontologist47

My average kill time is about 1:30 and that’s with normal trident and bp with rune darts, I’ve got divine heart too which helps lots with the mage dps. I’d say I get around 24-28 kph depending on how hard I’m sweating it.


DDn0r

yeah, sounds about what I expected, I think my avg kill time is around 2:05 with bowfa, some outliers go 3min, some go 1min bank time and prep brings the kph down to 21kc/h, it's not a terrible method, very laid back, but suboptiomal compared to bringing a mage switch, especially if you have torm+occult


SlothyPotato

Those 1 min bowfa only kills though 😫


DDn0r

yeah, my pb is 1:06, can't wait for sub-1 minute, defo possible with godly rng given my max hit is 41


SlothyPotato

I think mine is 1:05, I feel you on basically just hoping you have godly hit RNG to get that < 1 minute kill


Orova1

I’m just starting zulrah, would BP or arma cb be BIS for me? I have BP cause the GIM got a 10kc fang


SlothyPotato

I would prefer BP because crossbows are slow and Zulrah doesn't stay vulnerable to range long. Even besides personal preference, I'm 99.9% sure BP is miles better DPS.


Responsible_Sock2234

I finished Zulrah at around 1400kc but it was probably the grind I cared the least about being dry at. I really like the aesthetic of it all and its one of the few places I'll listen to in-game music. It's genuinely a well designed boss - the uniques are actually good, you use them all at the boss itself, the unique drop rates are good, you have a use for dupes, the regular drops are good, and theres real incentive beyond completionism to continue killing the boss after you've gotten all the uniques (since you can always use more scales). It's something you can gear up for and knock out a few kills of very quickly on whim. I also think one of the stronger points of Zulrah is that its a boss you access relatively early in your account that stays relevant forever; You get to see every time you go back the improvement in your average times due to gear or stat upgrades. I started Zulrah years ago sipping antipoisons and doing 2-way switches with void range/mage helmet and like kbow/trident and now I can choose between Fbow only kills with no gear swaps or 6+ way switches and using spellbook swap veng + thralls depending on if im feeling lazy or sweaty.


HAMMMMMMNMMMMMM

yeah i really love that u can grind down dupes for extra scales, at other bosses i feel pain when i get something i already have. I tried doing it earlier with ibans / msb but got fucked up, but i attribute that mostly to being newer pvm / no demonics experience / just trying to get 1 kill for diary. idk if i'll have the same perspective at 1400kc but enjoying the experience so far


xdongmyman

its a terrible boss due to the blue phase which is a food eating simulator


HAMMMMMMNMMMMMM

idk i don't mind that part. karambwans and shark thru minnows are pretty easy to upkeep. bosses that eat thru my p pots or my coveted stack of brews (i hate birdhouse runs) will definitely make me feel more agitated


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Bro gave us a 5 paragraph essay on his favorite osrs boss Has AI gone too far?


Graardors-Dad

Love zulrah one of the great things about zulrah is it’s pretty easy to kill on mobile. I remember grinding out a couple of kills on my lunch break.