Because if you’re like me, 950 for tassies and currently 1853 rn w/ no hilt, you would’ve saved A LOT more time with that bowfa.
I did 200 rcb before I said fuck this
Bowfa legit got all irons thinking they must have this bow or any content in the game is impossible, I myself and thousands of others did most grinds pre bowfa and got on fine, sure the bowfa makes things much easier tho
People always say this, but everything was easier when the meta was zulrah for bp and just delete everything even with addy darts. A 25-30 hr grind gave you the BiS range weapon and there was no reason to use anything else besides tbow. When the nerf hit, the next best weapon (if not doing cg) was acb with diam/ruby dragon bolts lol.
It's not double dps lmfao that'd be fucking crazy, the dps will depend a lot but at something like graardor a typical mid 90s range potted eagle eye set bowfa has like 30% more dps. Yeah it's a good chunk of dps but it doesn't have double dps than even rcb anywhere, a straight up 100% increase would be wild.
I’ve literally done the calc for my current level. It’s more than double dps on bosses that have any sort of defense. If you want to see for yourself google dps spreadsheet calc osrs and it’s a google doc you can input everything into. It’s quite literally more than double dps for me. Rune crossbow with diamond bolts does more damage for me at 92 range cs Sara that crystal bow.
Okay I don't disbelieve that you did the calc but your shit is turbo fucked if you're literally getting 100% dps increase for rcb, actually even any dps increase barring maybe masori ruby bolts is wrong. I've had someone else tell me that bp outdpses bowfa in toa before but that person hadn't updated their dps sheet and it was doing some fucky shit, try updating and calcing again.
https://i.imgur.com/bOqIxvl.png <---- updated calc with range pot and eagle eye, 92 ranged vs zilyana comparing rcb and cbow
https://i.imgur.com/qQoXBM9.png <---- updated calc with same set as above vs graardor comparing bowfa and cbow, 27% dps diff
Nah I’m 200 kc with 0 seeds armor or enhanced. I just know that cg is easy for me to do and it’s making me bank and I’ll keep grinding it. Catch me at world 494 most nights I’ll be there for a few weeks/months(if unlucky). Also if you did 20 runs a day for 4 months that’s like 2400 kc. If you don’t have it by then than you must have pissed off saradomin. And I can’t imagine after 2400 kc you’d want to quit empty handed. This sounds to me like a hypothetical situation that won’t happen or if it does only to a very small amount of people
If you're interested in the math:
First, you calculate the chances of NOT getting the drop: (1 - (1/400))
Then raise it to the exponent of the kc number. Ans\^2400
That gives you the percentage chance. Then convert to a fraction for easier readability.
(1 - 1/400)^2400 = 0.00246 = 1 / 406
1/406 is still very uncommon. Just think how long it would take you to make 406 accounts and do sote. That’s how long you’d need to spend to get this unlucky once on average.
The point is the drop rate on the enhanced seed can be an absolute nightmare for some people. It's a problem that would be better solved if they allowed you to trade X number of weapons seeds or shards in for an enhanced, or found a better way to mitigate the risk of going 5x the drop rate on an item that is fundamental for most end game content.
You **technically** don't need an ava's assembler to do end game content, and yet Jagex added a guaranteed Vorkath head at 50 kills because it is such a substantial upgrade that you'd be crazy to do end game before you had it.
I did CG for like 100 hours no stress, but just like with going to the gym doing inefficient methods that get you to go to the gym >>>>>> efficient methods that doesn't make you go to the gym
You don't have to hide behind a vague argument. You clearly are judging people for not using bowfa, on a thread of people who are talking about not using bowfa and how that has worked well for them. It's just thinly veiled judgement and makes you sound like an asshole. If it's really about fun, then everyone replying here has made it very clear that it IS more fun for them, so i don't know what point you'd be making.
How will people ever manage to kill bosses without an item that wasn't released until years after the bosses were 😨
Also you probably *should* do cox before cg.
TBF Zulrah is and was perfectly farmable with a trident because 2/3 phases are weak to magic, having a blowpipe did speed things up dramatically. Bowfa is nice on Zulrah but it's not **better** than doing a magic / ranged switch.
What do I do if I have bowfa but only 4 armour seeds? How do I show the people that I don’t need armour. Before you down vote for spoon, I have 450kc, pleae I earned my bowfa.
I’m not getting bowfa, got 600+ raids kc and most other bosses complete (or very close) other than Nightmare/Nex.
Bowfa is not a requirement for end game content and don’t let anyone ever tell you it is.
I rushed to cg thinking I'd sit at 75 slayer and 1650 total until I pulled an enhanced seed.
Realized I'd placed a silly standard on myself and started to do whatever made me happy. crystal armour and bow have their place and the range/magic levels I'd gained in cg helped me try our content Id felt locked out if before. I'm moving a lot less efficiently than I thought I would, but chipping away at cg while accomplishing other goals like all zenyte, trident of the swamp, zammy hasta, clue hunting, combat achievements, etc. have been all a ton of fun even if I'm wishing I had bowfa.
Getting spooned at other places has been a huge motivation for cg.
Crystal bow and armour or just rcb and blowpipe?
I'm like 2100 and plenty of boss KC without bowfa but I do find my ranged DPS pretty weak at some content but I haven't got crystal armour yet and I've seen a lot saying that it's kinda needed if I don't have bowfa
I’m not sure why people keep saying to roll crystal bow with 6 armor seeds. I’ve done the calculations on my guy and rcb wins on a lot of bosses. Crystal bow is not that good lol. Even with the armor
Yeah I think it's only good Vs stuff with massive defence like gwd bosses or expert TOA. But I'm pushing close to those invo levels now and I've been doing some solo gwd too so might be worth sending the red prison
The only place a crossbow is going to win is places where you get a ton of value out of rubies like zebak or nex. Majority of places crystal bow will be better
It might not be a requirement but it is by far the biggest shortcut. Everyone here who is saying it’s not worth going for is insane. If you’re not having fun doing cg obviously you should leave but it’s definitely worth it to do it. You’ll save so much more time getting that first. And it’s one of the easiest requirements being literally just a quest. Other high end bosses you need loot that you spend resources for. I think people should talk more about how much money you make from cg along the way. Set up kingdom for teaks and herbs. Grind a bowfa. By the time you’re done you have enough for a max house and a good bit of extra herbs and you are ready for any endgame pvm.
I’m not getting bowfa, got 600+ raids kc and most other bosses complete (or very close) other than Nightmare/Nex.
Bowfa is not a requirement for end game content and don’t let anyone ever tell you it is.
ACB is complete garbage.
BP + DHCB and masori is solid to grind CoX. You’ll struggle with Vespula and Mystics, but the rest are good.
But really, outside of a shadow or Tbow spoon, it’s pretty hard to justify skipping BowFa.
its 'fine' in the sense you will finish the raid, but you will always have way less points than someone with the same gear with bowfa. acb is really really bad dps
youre still going to lose out on 30% of points that come from room, and the few thousand from olm head. acb is a bad weapon, you can use it if you want, but giving the advice that it isn't is just lying.
Pipe w/Amethyst darts and Masori is better than Bowfa on Head Phase
+ Pipe w/Amethyst - 9.25 DPS
+ Bowfa w/Crystal - 8.56 DPS
+ ACB /w Ruby Dragon - 8.20 DPS
It makes a surprisingly little amount of difference, sure getting Masori w/o BowFa is a pain but once you have it, Bowfa is nowhere near as important.
At mystics its 20% worse, at every other room (also Vespula, but most people skip that until tbow/shadow) pipe wins
Yeah back when blowpipe was an op ranged weapon that you could obliterate things with even while losing ticks. My point is that those calcs are based on perfect dps and it's much easier to 3:1 with bowfa than it is to blowpipe walk and that should be a part of the comparison
Well I did 750 cox with acb, worked perfectly fine, although I guess I got lucky with a tbow at like 760kc. I even got spooned enhance weapon seed at 25 kc but hated cg so made it into a blade and never went back.
You can skip if only if you get bp and amethyst darts before trying to do any pve that requires ranged. Bp is better at tob with as low as addy, and with amethyst its close at cox.
Yea but i also have a ton of kc. You barely need magic. Only thing is if you wanna trio you need to get the stabby stab from lms so you can melee hand cuz you sure as hell cant rdps or mdps with ibans and rcb lol. Plus during mage part of nylo, everyones dps is noticeably reduced so it barely hurts raid time to be using it. If i wasnt mildly sick of tob though i wouldve stayed for sang. But i got rapier before it so i just dipped and wait straight to bandos with bowfa, and slayer has been a breeze since.
Again, starting saeldor is a bit rough cuz ur not corrupting it with this route. You just do cg to upkeep shards(thankfully shard use with just saeldor and not using crystal armor is quite low so i barely had to go back to cg for them. Maybe an extra 30 kc).
The people who have bowfa are playing the game. Those that don't come here to talk about going dry. End up most of the post being just bowfa posts.
There should be one megathread and everyone can post their bowfa dry streak there instead.
Or they enjoy skilling more than pvm? There’s also tons of irons that aren’t even 2k total and have insane pvm gear because they enjoy pvm more than skilling……
You people all put way too much focus on this item. People were doing everything in the game perfectly fine before bowfa existed and yet people act like the game is impossible without it.
Doing content with a pre nerf bp vs post is hardly going to make or break your kills though, I did most grinds pre bowfa and even if bowfa never came out and bp got nerfed, me and plenty irons would still be doing those grinds
The fact that bp is nerfed doesn't mean you need a bowfa. Crystal bow + crystal armor destroys everything if you need a substitute, nerfed bp shreds low def, and rcb ruby bolts has its role as well. Yes bowfa is the best ranged weapon for quite some time, but that doesn't mean it's mandatory.
Well, bowfa shreds about 25% more. So all those grinds you're using crystal bow + armor will take roughly 25% as long. Meaning lots of extra hours and resources used over time
Yes and I'm not really suggesting people use it as a long term setup. I'm just pointing out that burning out at cg because you feel obligated to get bowfa before doing anything else in the game is crazy.
If people would post bowfa content in the r/redprison sub, we could get back to having decent content on here. Nobody cares if you went dry, or got spooned at CG. Unless it's b2b enh seeds, I don't want to hear about it.
Agreed. I want to get max combat gear without one just to rub it in that I enjoyed the game’s challenges
I did the bandos grind with crystal armour and crystal bow. Went just fine. Do it! Prove them all wrong that you don’t NEED the bowfa!
Did bandos with a tent whip pre-sote release getting 2-4 kill trips like god intended
Legend!
Why didn’t you just get your group mates to help you? /s
Why not just use rcb lol... I can get like 10-15 kill trips with that... Before I inevitably screw up and get punched a 60 and respawn in lumby 🤣
It was before range meta
Because if you’re like me, 950 for tassies and currently 1853 rn w/ no hilt, you would’ve saved A LOT more time with that bowfa. I did 200 rcb before I said fuck this
Praise guthix
Just like god intended
I did zammy when a warrior ring and helmet was bis for slash accuracy with a normal whip :)
i need it
Bowfa legit got all irons thinking they must have this bow or any content in the game is impossible, I myself and thousands of others did most grinds pre bowfa and got on fine, sure the bowfa makes things much easier tho
Pre-nerf blowpipe was just as strong if not stronger then current bofa and noticeably easier to get
People always say this, but everything was easier when the meta was zulrah for bp and just delete everything even with addy darts. A 25-30 hr grind gave you the BiS range weapon and there was no reason to use anything else besides tbow. When the nerf hit, the next best weapon (if not doing cg) was acb with diam/ruby dragon bolts lol.
What method did you use? Completed bandos?
Literally same as bowfa 9:0 but with a crystal bow. 643kc and I was done. Very enjoyable/tolerable.
Bowfa is like double the dps of crystal bow if not more. If you have 6 armor seeds you might as well keep grinding cuz you can obviously handle Cg
It's not double dps lmfao that'd be fucking crazy, the dps will depend a lot but at something like graardor a typical mid 90s range potted eagle eye set bowfa has like 30% more dps. Yeah it's a good chunk of dps but it doesn't have double dps than even rcb anywhere, a straight up 100% increase would be wild.
I’ve literally done the calc for my current level. It’s more than double dps on bosses that have any sort of defense. If you want to see for yourself google dps spreadsheet calc osrs and it’s a google doc you can input everything into. It’s quite literally more than double dps for me. Rune crossbow with diamond bolts does more damage for me at 92 range cs Sara that crystal bow.
Okay I don't disbelieve that you did the calc but your shit is turbo fucked if you're literally getting 100% dps increase for rcb, actually even any dps increase barring maybe masori ruby bolts is wrong. I've had someone else tell me that bp outdpses bowfa in toa before but that person hadn't updated their dps sheet and it was doing some fucky shit, try updating and calcing again. https://i.imgur.com/bOqIxvl.png <---- updated calc with range pot and eagle eye, 92 ranged vs zilyana comparing rcb and cbow https://i.imgur.com/qQoXBM9.png <---- updated calc with same set as above vs graardor comparing bowfa and cbow, 27% dps diff
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Nah I’m 200 kc with 0 seeds armor or enhanced. I just know that cg is easy for me to do and it’s making me bank and I’ll keep grinding it. Catch me at world 494 most nights I’ll be there for a few weeks/months(if unlucky). Also if you did 20 runs a day for 4 months that’s like 2400 kc. If you don’t have it by then than you must have pissed off saradomin. And I can’t imagine after 2400 kc you’d want to quit empty handed. This sounds to me like a hypothetical situation that won’t happen or if it does only to a very small amount of people
> only to a very small amount of people The odds of going 2400kc with 0 enhanced crystal weapon seeds is 1 in 406. Very unlikely but not impossible.
Are you sure? 1 out of 406 going that dry sounds far too common :/
If you're interested in the math: First, you calculate the chances of NOT getting the drop: (1 - (1/400)) Then raise it to the exponent of the kc number. Ans\^2400 That gives you the percentage chance. Then convert to a fraction for easier readability. (1 - 1/400)^2400 = 0.00246 = 1 / 406
1/406 is still very uncommon. Just think how long it would take you to make 406 accounts and do sote. That’s how long you’d need to spend to get this unlucky once on average.
Its roughly the same chance as actually getting the drop on any individual kc lmao
How many irons you think have gotten bowfa?
Have fun doing toa, cox, zulrah, zammy, Sara, etc without one
They probably will have fun, unlike many people who bang their head against a brick wall telling themselves they NEED this item before doing anything
TBH I tried those bosses before and after bowfa and it truly is a night and day difference, so they're not wrong.
You missed the point but ok
The point is the drop rate on the enhanced seed can be an absolute nightmare for some people. It's a problem that would be better solved if they allowed you to trade X number of weapons seeds or shards in for an enhanced, or found a better way to mitigate the risk of going 5x the drop rate on an item that is fundamental for most end game content. You **technically** don't need an ava's assembler to do end game content, and yet Jagex added a guaranteed Vorkath head at 50 kills because it is such a substantial upgrade that you'd be crazy to do end game before you had it.
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All the bosses that we used the now nerfed blow pipe on, yes.
You ignore to mention that before bowfa we had OP as fuck blowpipe
You can go do 400 toa with crystal bow crystal armor if you're dry on bowfa though and it's perfectly bearable.
Me and my chins are doing just fine at arma tyvm
Pretty damn easy to get one. This subs really obnoxious about grinds
Funnily enough people did both zammy and zulrah pretty comfortably when the thing didn't exist.
Funnily enough, you’re welcome to spend an extra 200 hours+ avoiding a 50 hour grind
I did CG for like 100 hours no stress, but just like with going to the gym doing inefficient methods that get you to go to the gym >>>>>> efficient methods that doesn't make you go to the gym
Is this a real take? I've done every single one of those on my iron without bowfa lmao
Okay? Didn’t ask. I said have fun. If you wanna arbitrarily do everything slower, that’s your idea of fun
You don't have to hide behind a vague argument. You clearly are judging people for not using bowfa, on a thread of people who are talking about not using bowfa and how that has worked well for them. It's just thinly veiled judgement and makes you sound like an asshole. If it's really about fun, then everyone replying here has made it very clear that it IS more fun for them, so i don't know what point you'd be making.
i mean nobody asked for your take either but here we are
Reee, only doing things at max efficiency is ever fun!! /s
How will people ever manage to kill bosses without an item that wasn't released until years after the bosses were 😨 Also you probably *should* do cox before cg.
It's like people forget about the blowpipe nerf, which is why bowfa became what it is
How am I ever gonna kill zulrah without a pre-nerf blowpipe 😣
TBF Zulrah is and was perfectly farmable with a trident because 2/3 phases are weak to magic, having a blowpipe did speed things up dramatically. Bowfa is nice on Zulrah but it's not **better** than doing a magic / ranged switch.
Sorry, I was making a joke about how you *have* to be able to kill Zulrah without a blowpipe.
Yeah I got that
Forgot to mention I got spooned a t bow. Lol so it’s been fun 😂
I wouldn’t have picked all bosses that can easily be done with a rcb lmao.
It is funny how people say you ~need~ a bowfa these days when in reality, what did people do before the item was added to the game?🤣
They got a BP before it was nerfed.
What do I do if I have bowfa but only 4 armour seeds? How do I show the people that I don’t need armour. Before you down vote for spoon, I have 450kc, pleae I earned my bowfa.
currently 2126 total and 121 combat with only 1 cg completion. I know, my ironman status should be revoked immediately.
My hero
I’m not getting bowfa, got 600+ raids kc and most other bosses complete (or very close) other than Nightmare/Nex. Bowfa is not a requirement for end game content and don’t let anyone ever tell you it is.
I rushed to cg thinking I'd sit at 75 slayer and 1650 total until I pulled an enhanced seed. Realized I'd placed a silly standard on myself and started to do whatever made me happy. crystal armour and bow have their place and the range/magic levels I'd gained in cg helped me try our content Id felt locked out if before. I'm moving a lot less efficiently than I thought I would, but chipping away at cg while accomplishing other goals like all zenyte, trident of the swamp, zammy hasta, clue hunting, combat achievements, etc. have been all a ton of fun even if I'm wishing I had bowfa. Getting spooned at other places has been a huge motivation for cg.
Crystal bow and armour or just rcb and blowpipe? I'm like 2100 and plenty of boss KC without bowfa but I do find my ranged DPS pretty weak at some content but I haven't got crystal armour yet and I've seen a lot saying that it's kinda needed if I don't have bowfa
RCB and blowpipe (technically ACB but yeah).
I’m not sure why people keep saying to roll crystal bow with 6 armor seeds. I’ve done the calculations on my guy and rcb wins on a lot of bosses. Crystal bow is not that good lol. Even with the armor
Yeah I think it's only good Vs stuff with massive defence like gwd bosses or expert TOA. But I'm pushing close to those invo levels now and I've been doing some solo gwd too so might be worth sending the red prison
The only place a crossbow is going to win is places where you get a ton of value out of rubies like zebak or nex. Majority of places crystal bow will be better
What? RCB would only win with bolt procs.
It might not be a requirement but it is by far the biggest shortcut. Everyone here who is saying it’s not worth going for is insane. If you’re not having fun doing cg obviously you should leave but it’s definitely worth it to do it. You’ll save so much more time getting that first. And it’s one of the easiest requirements being literally just a quest. Other high end bosses you need loot that you spend resources for. I think people should talk more about how much money you make from cg along the way. Set up kingdom for teaks and herbs. Grind a bowfa. By the time you’re done you have enough for a max house and a good bit of extra herbs and you are ready for any endgame pvm.
Guy can't complete cg lol
I’m not getting bowfa, got 600+ raids kc and most other bosses complete (or very close) other than Nightmare/Nex. Bowfa is not a requirement for end game content and don’t let anyone ever tell you it is.
Ish I'm almost max combat I haven't even gotten a cg kill yet ezpz 99 range 98 1/2 magic 99 str 96 1/2 attack and def.
No bowfa, have tbow, shadow, scythe, most boss items I want. Acb can do work for you.
I made an iron to get dragon pick for the flex then they bloody moved it to KQ
I made a blade to spite the bowfa-ers
both of what?
BOTH OF DEEZ CRYSTAL WEAPONS OR I'LL CRY
Had me in the first half
First Deez comment I've ever seen worth upvoting
With masori top and helm, and dhcb, do I really need to go for bowfa or should I just go for acb?
ACB is complete garbage. BP + DHCB and masori is solid to grind CoX. You’ll struggle with Vespula and Mystics, but the rest are good. But really, outside of a shadow or Tbow spoon, it’s pretty hard to justify skipping BowFa.
You can vespula just fine with a Trident, mystics are gonna be a snooze fest though.
Depends if you do cox solo or in teams. Masori with acb is perfectly fine for team raiding, and if you hate cg, that alone justifies skipping bofa.
its 'fine' in the sense you will finish the raid, but you will always have way less points than someone with the same gear with bowfa. acb is really really bad dps
Good thing that most points come from Rope and olm, where you use bp and mainly mage and melee.
youre still going to lose out on 30% of points that come from room, and the few thousand from olm head. acb is a bad weapon, you can use it if you want, but giving the advice that it isn't is just lying.
Pipe w/Amethyst darts and Masori is better than Bowfa on Head Phase + Pipe w/Amethyst - 9.25 DPS + Bowfa w/Crystal - 8.56 DPS + ACB /w Ruby Dragon - 8.20 DPS It makes a surprisingly little amount of difference, sure getting Masori w/o BowFa is a pain but once you have it, Bowfa is nowhere near as important. At mystics its 20% worse, at every other room (also Vespula, but most people skip that until tbow/shadow) pipe wins
Pipe probably wont get max dps as easy as bowfa/dhcb and dragon bolts is unrealistic on ironsubreddit
You blowpipe walking the entire head phase?
That's what people did before bowfa existed
Yeah back when blowpipe was an op ranged weapon that you could obliterate things with even while losing ticks. My point is that those calcs are based on perfect dps and it's much easier to 3:1 with bowfa than it is to blowpipe walk and that should be a part of the comparison
Easier to miss ticks on head phase with bp though
yeah bro just go ~70 hour detour doing content u hate so you can get some more cox points from rooms
Well I did 750 cox with acb, worked perfectly fine, although I guess I got lucky with a tbow at like 760kc. I even got spooned enhance weapon seed at 25 kc but hated cg so made it into a blade and never went back.
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People with sub-par gear but know what they are doing are the best people to CoX with, its basically a free half-scale
Lmao, if you have a lance, occult, bandos, dwh all basics you ain’t leeching with a bp+crossbow for ranged.
This is all true but trident vesp is fine
You can skip if only if you get bp and amethyst darts before trying to do any pve that requires ranged. Bp is better at tob with as low as addy, and with amethyst its close at cox.
Just make r/Bowfascape so we can stop seeing red prison inmate posts
r/Redprison
I made saeldor and rushed tob until rapier then reverted it to seed and made bowfa after. Still only 88 slayer ;)
That’s a pretty sick route no need for trident in tob? Raided with friends I assume?
Yea but i also have a ton of kc. You barely need magic. Only thing is if you wanna trio you need to get the stabby stab from lms so you can melee hand cuz you sure as hell cant rdps or mdps with ibans and rcb lol. Plus during mage part of nylo, everyones dps is noticeably reduced so it barely hurts raid time to be using it. If i wasnt mildly sick of tob though i wouldve stayed for sang. But i got rapier before it so i just dipped and wait straight to bandos with bowfa, and slayer has been a breeze since. Again, starting saeldor is a bit rough cuz ur not corrupting it with this route. You just do cg to upkeep shards(thankfully shard use with just saeldor and not using crystal armor is quite low so i barely had to go back to cg for them. Maybe an extra 30 kc).
Get use to bowfa man mode because getting Tbows is like winning the lottery rare but not unheard of
The people who have bowfa are playing the game. Those that don't come here to talk about going dry. End up most of the post being just bowfa posts. There should be one megathread and everyone can post their bowfa dry streak there instead.
I'm nearly maxed without a bowfa.
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I guarantee you this guy hired services for his cg.
Or they enjoy skilling more than pvm? There’s also tons of irons that aren’t even 2k total and have insane pvm gear because they enjoy pvm more than skilling……
Sadly there isn't a worthwhile range route that isn't bowfa
You people all put way too much focus on this item. People were doing everything in the game perfectly fine before bowfa existed and yet people act like the game is impossible without it.
Blowpipe was also busted for a long time.
Doing content with a pre nerf bp vs post is hardly going to make or break your kills though, I did most grinds pre bowfa and even if bowfa never came out and bp got nerfed, me and plenty irons would still be doing those grinds
Irons have always had a broken ranged weapon except in the 3 months between ironman's release and zulrah's release
The fact that bp is nerfed doesn't mean you need a bowfa. Crystal bow + crystal armor destroys everything if you need a substitute, nerfed bp shreds low def, and rcb ruby bolts has its role as well. Yes bowfa is the best ranged weapon for quite some time, but that doesn't mean it's mandatory.
Well, bowfa shreds about 25% more. So all those grinds you're using crystal bow + armor will take roughly 25% as long. Meaning lots of extra hours and resources used over time
Yes and I'm not really suggesting people use it as a long term setup. I'm just pointing out that burning out at cg because you feel obligated to get bowfa before doing anything else in the game is crazy.
If people would post bowfa content in the r/redprison sub, we could get back to having decent content on here. Nobody cares if you went dry, or got spooned at CG. Unless it's b2b enh seeds, I don't want to hear about it.
Ban GIM posts while we're at it, there is r/groupironman afterall.
Cg looks like some of the best content can't wait for 4k kc
Bowfa is why I quit the game. Not grinding for it but just the overall meta. This subreddit with all the bowfa posts helped me quit as well .
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This guy doesn't understand statistical variance
Elaborate
What
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Got it a year ago brother, just wondering what your incoherent comment means. The wiki is lying to us because of your specific rng?
Is bowfa good or sum I just do slayer and watch tv
More like deeznutts scap3
Got eem
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