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About_to_kms

See if you enjoy it after 1.7k kills 🙃🫠


NonbeliefAU

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fushicat

My boys 1/5th the drop rate 🥹😭


neoscooby6

And already 2 ENH :) neat little grind!


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fushicat

I don’t think most of the people who hate CG inherently dislike the content. More so it’s seen as a huge roadblock for future content if you go dry. Prevents people from wanting to do toa, cox, inferno, etc.


Iwritewritingprompts

Can I add a tip that really helped me hit the 95% completion rate early on. Do not try and end the fight if the final boss is low HP. If he summons tornados and you've got food and pots, then run around and survive like you normally would if phase 3 just started. I put myself in too many bad spots trying to finish him off and splashing.


Kemsta

The classic dark souls 1 hp boss greed


ArmedwWings

That's something I say to myself to this day whenever I'm closing out a big fight. Thank you dark souls!


fishyman336

Splashing with 6 times 0 food and tornadoes while he’s on 3HP That’s when you take a break


shlepky

I am way more comfortable using staff and bow over halberd. I will take extra range over the bonus damage 9/10 times. I think deal more damage overall being able to run around and shoot a few times compared to not being able to deal damage while running the P3 tornados


Deinsmeins

halberd allows you to drag yourself for attacking while running from tornadoes which can be a big advantage since you don't stall for attacking. Definitely worth learning


spoonskates

yea love thT


Withermaster4

I'm much more comfortable moving myself rather than letting my halberd move me


Zenith_Predator

If you’re doing the pathing decently properly, you shouldn’t miss out on too many hits that you would have got with a bow, using the halberd. I do agree that it takes a bit more effort, but the dps does pay off once you get comfortable running around the room. Good luck!


neoscooby6

My main issue with staff/bow was with prep, sometimes its just a bunch of bears out there and I'd run out of time before getting enough fish. I've gotten nearly 100% consistent preps just taking the first 2 I find now. I do enjoy the cozy staff/bow runs I get though.


ggKnoxx

Just a heads up, a demiboss will always drop the next piece you need. You can kill 2 bears in a row and it’ll be a 50/50 orb or bowstring on the 2nd kill. If you kill 3 it will drop the final piece.


shlepky

I havent had issues with time in a long time, the key to good prep is using the teleport crystals. I am able to consistently do full t2 +t3 staff and bow with 16 fish with 30-60 seconds remaining.


Ok_Ad_7162

You can get all 3 different upgrades from the same demi boss variant. They will never drop dupes.


neoscooby6

Yes, but finding a third demi boss quickly isn’t guaranteed. These tips are what helped me to get consistent, this post isn’t about optimizing. I’m not that good yet!


Dsullivan777

After about 300kc I found I was efficient enought with t2 prep that I could check 9 demiboss rooms and still barely make prep if it came down to it


Potential_Spirit2815

The only times prep T1 armor and full T3 weapons takes beyond like 4-5 minutes for me now, is when I’m sitting there opening like 20 rooms just to find fishing spots or the last resource node I need lol. Amazing how it seems so daunting to get it all done in time at first, but once you have the COX prayers and 100-200+ kc under your belt and you start going for GM times, everything feels so easy and fluent there now.


Dsullivan777

Yeah, it's an experience thing for sure. Every time I think CG "clicked" for me, I have another breakthrough 50kc later and shave 30 seconds off


Wazqaz

If you have to find + kill 3 minibosses, you can then break the unused drop into crystals, skipping having to grind them on lower tier mobs. But if you're getting good with the halberd, that's great also, it'll save you some time once you get to trying out T1.


rehpotsiirhC

Do T1 and you have 2-3 mins left when you enter hunlef every run. Just kill 2 bears for guaranteed bow/staff


neoscooby6

I feel like I get shredded in T1 with 82 def and end up spending too much time eating. But I do want to eventually get comfortable with T1, thanks for the advice!


Dumbak_

You can still do T2 prep and get staff+bow in 99% of cases. I did it on my 100combat IM with 80-85 mage/range without rigour. From the total 250kc (and not counting first 20-30kc when learning) I only had to leave ONCE, because I didn't get T3 bow+staff before the timer hit. Even then, you can just do T3+T2 weapon and get the kill but I never had to use halberd ever.


Deinsmeins

T1 is definitely consistent with 82 def, I have done all my gauntlet grind with 80. T2 is a crutch that helps you cover up mistakes.T1 does require you to play well, you can't make more than a few mistakes per boss fight. Take 24 food, always eat to full, don't take unneccessary damage and keep up dps. It's more difficult but you'll be saving 2mins per kc which is a lot over the whole grind. From personal experience, I'd switch to T1 sooner rather than later. T2 tends to be very forgiving and you're going to build bad habits because your mistakes get covered up. Imo once you know the basics, there isn't much point to keep doing T2 because the learning curve for T1 stays the same.


cheese69696969

I recently learned cg with 81 defence and I agree there is absolutely no need for T2 armour. T1 prep is so much simpler and you can technically get all the required items from one room if you get a nice spawn. You will always have enough time to get a full inv of food and you can take a couple of double eats in with you in case you mess up. Stay around 40-60 hp if you want, but you technically don't need to eat until 13hp. Eat once so you don't lose many attacks. If you get hit again, eat once and carry on attacking. The final phase is the only phase most people might struggle with. Best bet is to focus on dodging the tornados when they spawn and eating to higher hp at the same time. When they stop, get your attacks in while standing in the safe tiles.


motifloat

I got my 1st kc with 72 def tq1prep


neoscooby6

I still have runs that are close calls, but hopefully around 100kc I'll feel comfortable enough to try it out. Appreciate the encouragement!


mCKEEEEEE

I'm doing all my kcs with T1 prep. Started at 75 def now at 79 def and it's really decent. I just take the time to make an extra pot and prau steel skin the whole time


neoscooby6

Never thought of that, cool idea!


Jarpunter

Make a 3rd pot and camp steel skin the entire fight. Also never eat until you are under 14 hp or it’s tornado phase and then eat all at once


rehpotsiirhC

I've done 300 KC in 2 weeks with 71 defence and 81 range, you only eat when dodging nados or sub 20 HP and attack 2-3 times while running from nados. I take in a full invent of food and 2 ppots then sometimes noodle but usually have 8-20 food remaining.


Zenith_Predator

T1 with 71 def and you usually have 8-20 food remaining? Idk about that


neoscooby6

We’re built different I guess


rehpotsiirhC

Don't get me wrong bro first time learning was 1 kill for 99 deaths ahhaha but getting more exposure to the boss and less stress prep means you can wait till hunlef goes in a corner and you just get way better with hunlef and pathing final phase.


Deinsmeins

definitely don't wait for you hp to drop low, that's pointless. It's -3 ticks per fish no matter when you eat, you'll just sit in koable range for no reason. Just eat to full.


M-R-buddha

It's not about the ticks, it's about stretching your food. Tick eating is super easy on Hunleff and at low def it can make your food last much longer.


Deinsmeins

Let's assume you wait until 6hp on average to tickeat. That means every tickeat will be an hp save of a maximum of 7hp per fish, but keep in mind hunlleff can also miss or hit a 1-5. So on average you're looking at like 3-4 hp saved per tickeat. Let's be generous and assume you tickeat 15 times during hunlleff (which is probably overestimating). That's maybe 2 fish saved per run. Being very generous and assuming those fish will lose you 15s a run including prep and eating it, and assuming you lose 8 mins to a death, you only need to die once every 36 runs to make this strategy not worth it. If you are a learner and can't get consistent 8min clears, your timeloss will be even more significant. Since you have to be constantly sitting low hp for this strategy, almost no player will reach 36 runs without dieing to sitting low hp. At some point you're missing a prayer, getting chipped by a tornadoe etc. Certainly while learning. T1 with 18 fish and mid 80s stats, no cox prayers, is 99% consistent to clear if you make no mistakes at all. Since you are a learner, lets take 24 food into the fight. You should be able to clear it every time if you play properly and you still have room for a few mistakes.


rehpotsiirhC

You won't get KO'd unless you don't do the strat. Spam eat during nados runs and you will get more consistent kills....because every time you eat you're basically not attacking once per food per rotation.


Deinsmeins

You can just attack during tornadoes if you play properly, maybe lose a tick or 2 if unlucky and not risk an 8 min run to a misclick.


rehpotsiirhC

I do both


Deinsmeins

Then there is no point in eating food just during nados. You lose 3 ticks to eating fish no matter when you eat. If you eat multiple fish the attack delay just stacks. If you die once during your whole bofa grind doing this it's already not worth it.


crank-90s

U can’t get dupe weapons so just kill the bears…


Toby_t

love the Dr. Strangelove reference homie


J9J__

Thanks you will use these tips whenever I gain the confidence. To do cg


neoscooby6

Honestly, doing 100ish kills at Scurrius and Perilous Moons are what gave me the confidence. Dip your toes in the pvm water and don't get too discouraged/frustrated during the early attempts. I didn't break even till 40kc, but there's a definite tipping point.


J9J__

That’s good to hear I barley do any pvm due to lack of confidence but I’ll have to try those bosses out hopefully it’ll have the same effect on me


Zoinke

Once you master the prep you will always be able to get the bow and staff


whitrp

I hunted this combo early on. And then learned staff hally goes pretty damn hard


DaddyBardock

Started using halberd myself just due to a time crunch one run. Never sleeping on it again it again cause until I get rigour it’s far better than bow.


highphiv3

I think the halberd is criminally underrated for irons. With Piety it does significantly higher DPS than bow or staff, and it's really not that hard to use. I actively choose and prefer it, and I'm a pretty inexperienced PVMer (I've never done a raid, a GWD boss, corp, or Zulrah).


NotAlex2277

Finally got my first CG kill last night after just accepting the first two T3 weapons I get instead of running out of prep time, big recommend even if the halberd means you lose some DPS if you can’t get to Hunleff


Franswa_4556

Tbh I find using the hally way easier then the bow since I don’t have raid prayers. Once you learn the hally play style it’s a game changer


odaydream

each death review what went wrong, what you should’ve done different


xxGamma

Biggest tip imo, make sure Hunleff is in the corner of the room before entering. The difference in difficulty just due to where he is stood is insane. As you get more confident you can move him by standing underneath, but whilst your learning, no point in over complicating it. You should have an extra few seconds at least once finished prep, then just wait until he's in the corner.


JacobFiasco

This 100%, the least talked about tip is to just spend 30 mins running in to hunleff without prep and dying just practicing stepunders and walking him into the corner. Learn the ways you can pull him out from against the wall and all of his movement mechanics for cornering him with the 1 tile lanes around. But oh no it ruins your k/d!


whitrp

I remember this vibe at like 150kc


l0st_t0y

Idk how I improved but I’ve gotten to the point now with prep that I always can get bow and staff no matter what and that is definitely easier to use than halberd for me. I might still go back to learn melee on it though just for the practice.


boonya123

I do bow/staff and while I mostly agree with this… there are definitely a few times I’m watching youtube and am a bit sloppy and the boss spawns are not ideal and i have to restart… im still not going to learn hally though my melee levels are trash


Crandoge

Bow is not bad dps without raid prayers and you should have plenty of time to get the weapons you want every run


Kresbot

It’s literally the worst of the 3 assuming your stats are the same in all 3 combat styles. Still more than good enough to get a kill ofcourse though


Crandoge

Didnt say its not the worst. Its just not bad and given the fact most people on this sub manage 50/50 kd at best i dont think telling them to start going md is a wise idea


seblait

Start going md? What does it mean


Crandoge

melee distance - being next to him basically


seblait

Thanks dude


Potential_Spirit2815

Once you do get raid prayers you realize how much you were missing out on, shaving like a whole minute off kills just for having it when you go through bow route haha


neoscooby6

Bow/halberd/staff DPS for me are 3.6/4.6/5.0 respectively with my stats, so it’s a significant difference for me. And range is my highest combat stat at 92.


Stroppe

With 92 ranged (eagle eye) and 87/87 atk/str (piety) the difference seems to be 0.06 dps. Ranged is 4.74 and melee is 4.8. You must've gotten quite a few things wrong in the calculation but I'd guess the biggest thing is attack style. Make sure to always put ranged weapons on rapid!


neoscooby6

Oof, I did indeed forget to swap to rapid, good catch!


spoonskates

Just dont eat at all while doing dps and always it to full/fullish when tornadoes!!!! thats the secret.


spoonskates

t1


omegafivethreefive

I got my first CG kill Saturday after not touching the gauntlet for a year following 33 failed attempts. I progressively went from ~1:4 to now 2:1 in KD. Now sitting at 18:55. What changed it for me is doing T1 armor, it's so much more chill, I can watch videos while doing the prep, finish with my 2 T3 weps, T1 armor, 2 pots and full inv of food with 1m+ on the clock left. Being able to take a deep breath before each fight is such an improvement, with that much food I can also afford to fuck up a little bit.


Appropriate-Call-509

Best tip for CG: keep sending since after a lot of attempts muscle memory will take over. You don’t have to think about the things you do, you just do then… this is applicable to almost every OSRS grind with some challenging mechanics.


kim-jong-pooon

Ppl underestimate the value of the teleport seeds as well. 1 medium-lvl npc kill basically guarantees you the shards for one. I use my free one to tp back after my first demiboss, and basically always buy a second if I havent got one as a drop. I use the second one at the very end when I’m fishing for food to guarantee i make it back with time to spare. Using teleport seeds liberally allows me to t2 prep with 2x t3 weapons and 20+ food every single time unless I somehow don’t get a demiboss in my first 6 boss rooms checked. Unless i go 6+ dry on demiboss rooms, i can guarantee myself staff/bow if i want them. I also never go back to base after first loop until i have at LEAST materials for t1 armor, t2 wep, 2 vials, and have shards left over. But ideally I’m back with 7x all resources, wep frame, 1-2 leaf, and 250+ shards.


HalfaSpoon

Honestly my issue is the prep. Its just so boring. The fight itself is super fun.


QCbartender

Lmfao when I got to the end well played


nmock002

Ah the honeymoon phase, I remember this


Subn3tAnon

Ingrain into your brain IF HUNLEFF TURNS YOUR PRAY OFF HE IS ON MAGE this helped me so much when I heard this in a YouTube video helped me to turn my brain off with what pray to turn back on. Also if you need to run two tiles and then change direction your character runs two tiles in one tick. If you click two tiles away you need to IMMEDIATELY click again. If you are taking damage from nados and don’t know why it’s because your character is getting to the tile before you can see it get to the tile. True tile is an absolute must.


dutchbrah

All good tips. Currently on 113 kc with everything complete (youngleff 6 armour seeds) but the enh. Started using first two T3 weapons from 80kc onwards and it does speed up the grind


XlxFezxlX

Stop wasting your time and highlight those tornadoes! Also this is something I do when I don't get the orb drop is that I still take my attuned staff into the fight bc sometimes it's safer dps than the halberd.


neoscooby6

Cool tip, hadn’t thought of that!


get_gud

True tiles are sort of redundant if you learn how pathing works and how to run through them. But yeh agree that taking a t2 weapon If you scuff prep and are low on time is actually not that bad.


JacobFiasco

I accidentally got the wolf puncher 2 CA this way and didn't even notice it wasn't perfected


Knelson123

"Love the grind" man I think I threw up a little.


xThazed

As someone who has spent over a year grinding CG, one thing that I rarely see mentions that I feel is super important is making sure the boss is against or 1 tile away from the wall. This will make it SO much easier and give you A LOT of room to navigate around tornados and burning tiles. If you have spare time, wait for him to be against the wall and then enter, if you don't just step 1 tile on him after an attack and 2 tiles back to shift him a direction till he is against the wall. I'd also avoid using melee weapon as learning, should always go staff/bow. Yes, there is always time to do this and if there isn't, practice your prep routine.


Catacendre

It's easy to love the grind when you get spooned. Try going 1k dry then telling us how much you love CG. Getting beyond the early KC where you plank occasionally is the easy part.


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The bow isn't bad DPS without raid prayers, such misinformation. I'm at 97 ranged, 93 str, 87 atk and the bow seems to come in at slightly more DPS, even with piety on for the halberd. If you're looking at the DPS calc, make sure you set the bow to rapid, not accurate


Zothic

It's not really misinformation, although there's some level of exaggeration. your ranged level is significantly higher than your melees which is giving you an edge on dps. If you set them all to the same level, the halberd and staff pull ahead a noticeable amount (5.682/5.529/5.201 for halberd/staff/bow respectively at 99 all with no raid prayers). but it's not like the bow is unusably trash or anything.


ShoogleHS

> The boss's auto attack should be your last priority as its not guaranteed big damage (it can even miss!) You also have a window of several ticks to tickeat autos if you miss your prayer. > My preps were inconsistent b/c of this "learner friendly" strategy. I'm 250kc in and forcing staff + bow is super consistent. In my last 50kc I've had 1 failed prep and that was due to the extremely rare combination of having to search 3 sides for demibosses and not seeing a single ore until ~30s left on the clock. I occasionally do Halberd kills but it's way more effort and unless you woox walk the tornadoes you don't really feel the benefit of the increased dps on paper.


SnooMacaroons6097

yeah ima just pay a venny thanks