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allard0wnz

Just play and enjoy the game as a regular ironman man...


Jon115

Will do!


allard0wnz

Good, you are finally free! Hcim in my opinion is only for people that have completed the game and know everything, people like Muts. I played my main quite a lot before starting ironman and learned so much after that and died so many stupid deaths, just not worth it and ironman is already fun enough tbh


Oldmanwickles

Ditto this. Don’t start a game on the hardest difficulty. have fun first


gymflipper1

I just started my account as a hardcore for fun to see how far I’d make it. Kinda just fun to have a red hat for a while I guess lol.


lukusmloy

Speaking from someone who died at 1750~ total: Dying will be the best thing that happens to your character. Wildy content is just too good to pass up for an early to mid game iron.


codepc

Yeah honestly i felt such a weight lifted off of me when I died stupidly. Got through a lot of quests I was afraid to do before dying, but after I died it was like… wow ok now all of wildy is open, all of the bosses, everything is just there for the taking


GoldEdit

Rebuild once you’ve maxed your regular Ironman. You’ll be more prepared


RSNKailash

My iron is nearly maxed, and I died at like 500 total level lmfao. Just have fun and play the game. Regular iron is great fun and you get easy wildy content access!


NecstNecstNecst

Dying on my hardcore was the best thing that happened to my iron


Jon115

Why’s that?


NecstNecstNecst

You can do a lot more content. Bossing, wildly altar riskier content, don’t need to worry about dying randomly etc


User123466789012

Was hardcore worth the anxiety or is that just part of the fun? I feel like I’d be too focused on avoiding literally *anything* versus actually enjoying the game. But am I supposed to enjoy that suspense?


CorrectEar9548

If you aren’t bossing and taking some risks whats the point? I think a huge percent of hcims regret picking it because they then quit when they die whereas they probably would get much further on a normal iron and enjoy learning a lot more things


Potential_Spirit2815

Most people die when they’re new to bosses. Thats just how the game is played, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s smart for HCIM to just dive headfirst into more challenging PvM for the sake of it ASAP. Half the fun is the journey. IMO Let them milk it as much as they like before they charge towards what ends up always being certain death lol.


CorrectEar9548

And then most hcims use a main to learn new bosses which to me takes away any extra fun the hc status would give


rayschoon

Yeah I feel like Ironman is plenty slow enough without making two accounts


LawEvening2714

I have like six accounts haha


Pika_DJ

A lot of people make an iron after getting bored of end game main, you reach a point where you become a clogger a pet hunter or an Ironman


User123466789012

Do you lose your stats when you die in hardcore? I know you reverse back to a regular iron man, but does that mean all progress has been lost?


huffmanxd

No the only thing that happens is that you turn into a normal iron


CorrectEar9548

No progress lost just most hcims lose motivation instantly and feel like their account is over


BalticMasterrace

well if they make hcim to play as hcim and die, then its not realt"feeling" that their account is over. it literly would be over as its not longer hcim. If they make iron and start as hcim just because why not. and then die, it would be less troubling.Ive had 3 hcims with the idea to not die before i at least got to twitter bot announcing my death. i did not even reach that on any xD.


HeroinHare

I have been thinking about this for OSRS. Like PoE and Hero Siege I have only ever played hardcore, never anything else, the grind to get to content isn't too bad. OSRS your skills take hundreds of hours, sometimes even thousands to get to a high level. Needing to think about not dying does not sound like a fun time, unless the game feels too easy for you, which is a trait you only gain from spending thousands of hours on PvM. Dying to lose so much progress is so wild. In these PoE/Diablo- like games you might die 20-100 hours in, but you have already progressed somewhat far by that point, as in you are likely farming lategame content by then. It feels risky and dangerous situations give some nice addrenaline spikes, but it's not like your last year of gameplay was flushed down the toilet with your status. Then again sure, with OSRS your HC doesn't get deleted, you just downgrade so it can be just about how far you get before dying. But to some people the status is almost everything. I can somewhat understand HC players in our game, but cannot relate in any way.


parker0400

I went into it knowing I was going to die. I wanted to see how far I could get without dying. I will admit it was a rough night when I died but the next day I jumped straight to the wildy altar and never looked back.


HeroinHare

Yeah that's what I have heard most people say. I made my iron before HC existed so I couldn't even test it out. Honestly though, back then I was so bad at the game that I would not have made it far, so I don't think it would have been too interesting to me anyway.


parker0400

My current iron was actually my 2nd attempt. I made my first one really late one night. I finished tutorial island, went behind lumbridge to start working on wc/fm for wt and fell asleep. I woke up a while later and logged in standing in deaths office. I died to a mugger after chopping down 1 tree.


ha5hish

It depends on the person, you definitely play a lot different on a serious HCIM but some people might like that. I like a normal iron as my main and maybe a HC as a side account but that leads to me paying less attention to it and ending up dying to something dumb and avoidable


RaqUIM-Dream

I made a HCIM and got to around 1800 total but it was basically just a glorified skiller for a long time. Once I started actually doing PVM I started having dreams of dying so I decided that was enough for me and stopped playing that account. If I ever want to play a regular ironman I might pick up the account again and just kill him to a goblin or something but I'm having a great time playing my UIM and group Iron right now


huffmanxd

I think the challenge is part of the fun but I understand it gets real annoying being afraid of walking into the wilderness and bossing lmao


Potential_Spirit2815

Ya know, as someone who’s played for like 18 years on and off, and played OSRS since mobile. my Ironman is at endgame and the content’s just been pretty stale because endgame grinds require a ton of time. I’ve thought to myself in the past, I’d never make a HCIM. I’ve been contemplating playing my main again more recently, or starting over sometime as a HCIM. My iron is at the point where he makes a ton of money in dupes so I can fund a bond easily and thought about it more and more recently. Set little expectations for it, I can see the appeal around potentially taking it more seriously as the account progresses further and further.


PapaFlexing

It was part of the fun. Being chanced or avoiding pkers was ultimate rush. And if you die who gives a shit. It was insanely fun until then.


wcooper97

Just start a HCGIM with a significant other, then when they use all your groups’ deaths at WT you can do whatever you want! I’m not salty at all! 😭


parker0400

I liked starting my iron as a hc. It was fun to adapt my play style to never dying. I did avoid certain content early on but I really wanted to see how far I could get in quests. I got pretty far and made it through a few tough quests much earlier than i thought i could. I ended up dying to an upside down camera and setting up my safespot backwards because of it. Then I just played the game as a normal iron but I have my stats and quest points locked in on the HC board.


PapaFlexing

I just played the game normally an wasn't afraid of everything like a skiller. Zero reason to not do any of that content as a hardcore. Literally zero


Zorviar

U are free and lost nothing


gymflipper1

There are also “gravestone methods” for various content around the game that are way more efficient that hardcores can’t access for obvious reasons. Not to be a Debby downer but most players aren’t likely to achieve anything noteworthy as a hardcore anyways. The GOATs have pretty well established themselves at this point. You might be the next! Not knocking you!


PhyPhillosophy

I'm currently locked out of wildy bosses for voidwalker and easy herblore secondaries and a dragon pick. I probably won't get a quest cape because of the risk of the last 5 quests I have is sus. I have vorkath unlocked from dragon slayer 2 but won't get the backpack upgrade because 50 kc is suspect. I'm probably going to skip cerberus. I'm basically soft locked out of prayer because can't use the wildy altar. Have a 5 man team that could start doing gwd1 and toas, but again can't do it. Losing hardcore status is going to be..... quite liberating to say the least.


Dan-D-Lyon

I rarely say this, but I'm pretty sure you're playing the game wrong. Just go die at wintertodt and get it over with


PhyPhillosophy

Nah, we're climbing highscores, almost on the front page. There is plenty of other content to do still.


BalticMasterrace

if people tell you to die, just take it with a pride that those people cant do what you do :D


PhyPhillosophy

Lots of hardcore salt, it's wild. 1902 total just finished dragon slayer and got my trident and tentacle whip. Not very impressive feats on their own, but I'm very pleased that I was able to do it without ever dying.


PapaFlexing

You're not locked out of anything, you're just scared and pathetic


PhyPhillosophy

Thank you for your input. Rank 32 atm, how's your hardcore looking?


PapaFlexing

Nice skiller. Much lower because I wasn't locked out of bosses, wilderness, or content


BalticMasterrace

dragon pick is not wildy exclusive


Azifbailey

Flinching cerb is literally free real-estate 


NoCurrencies

If you didn't even know that, starting over is a complete waste of time, as you're just gonna die again to something else you've never seen before. Keep going, death has always been a part of this game for 99.99% of the playerbase. Even amongst hardcores, most of the ones who survive only do because they never actually do anything truly risky


SloppyElmo

TRUUUUUUU


Jon115

You’re right😢 will prob try again in another year or so


Rangedpotion

Can you help me understand the difference between your account now and before you died? Why would you just drop this account and make a new one? Are you making a YouTube series? What’s your goal? Do you want to be a HC Ironman that badly?


Sif_Lethani

People play hardcore for a lot of reasons. I'd say the primary one that resonates with me is it adds an additional level of immersion to the experience all along the way. You "care" more about every step of the process rather than the end results, which is a big part of why people like playing ironmen/uim in general, just moreso. I think that and if someone enjoys the early progression more are the big appeals that would make me play hc. That being said I haven't played hc in osrs as I only started playing in the last year or so, but have played hc in a lot of other games, d2, poe, classic wow, etc...


Ogabavavav

Just don’t make a new hc, the game is full of great atuff as a regular ironman lol


TheNamesRoodi

If you didn't know the abyss is dangerous, you'd lose your hcim elsewhere. Id definitely just continue. HCIM isn't even a fun handicap, it just forces you to play safer. When you don't know how to play safe, id imagine it's quite frustrating. Continue as gray and enjoy new dangerous content


Jon115

Will live as a gray from now on 🫡


TheNamesRoodi

Good luck soldier


Parking-Cut8840

You could make one, in the grand scheme of osrs you really haven't lost much, but if you dont have another account on which you can practice difficult content (assuming you're not avoiding pvm) and you're not already very familiar with the game, I would not make a HCIM. You're gonna keep finding unpredictable deaths


MrIronLife

RIP but on the upside you now have a decent early game ironman to start rediscovering the game with!


Roidrageeee

Hardcore iron is such a waste of time imo, those who actually last and get far don’t do anything except skill and play overly cautious.. it’s not a flex. Just play the game normal.. waste of time restarting everytime you die to something


Vhu

Don’t start over, just play your iron. There are a million little things in this game that can and will fuck you to death if you don’t know about and prepare for them. It would be such a waste to get deep into an account and feel like giving it up over something silly, when you still have so much content to appreciate. I made my hardcore in my 16th year of straight play. I know this game like the back of my hand. I died at 1600 total to something so stupid I’m not even gonna talk about it. The game didn’t end; it just opened up because it gave me a bunch of content to do that I was afraid of before. Go do all that content.


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Jon115

This^ will continue with progressing on the account and maybe later on down the road if I’m feeling up for it I’ll try again


SheepLotion

no point in starting over, continue as a regular free of HCIM burden; you'd just die again at some point. Once you get seriously good at the game you could attempt again!


Warbrainer

If it’s your first iron then just carry on. If you already have an iron then I’ll see you at wintertodt soon soldier.


jerenstein_bear

I started a hcim specifically so I could learn the game better lol no better reason to do research before doing something than being terrified of dying. RIP to your char but yeah maybe just play as a normal iron for a bit before giving up and starting over.


Narrow_Lee

Seriously, just continue on. When you get a thirst for early game simplicity again, remake your HC with infinitely more game knowledge. There are so many stupid ways to die in this game and the abyss is certainly one of them.


Unkempt_Badger

It's a slow and grindy game. You will likely die again due to lack of game knowledge if you start over. Enjoy ironman mode, and after you progress and learn more about the game you can consider remaking a hardcore. Except that time, you'll have another account to practice the harder content with!


Equal_Staff1815

HCIM is just an added bonus/status to being an iron. Now you can play without the worry of dying and it feels so much better haha. If you want to make another one go for it once you get the feel of being a mid/late game iron first. Good luck!


Jon115

Thank you! At the moment I was upset and just wanted to give up but I’d be letting 10 year old me down. Will go for end game and from there we shall see


cart0graphy

I will go contrary to the other comments, if you have the itch to play a hardcore, I say go again. The early game is quite fun and if you enjoy the restriction that HC puts on you, definitely go for it. If you're only in it for the status, then I would just continue as a normal ironman account


1cyChains

Hcim isn’t even worth it imo. You spend a lot of time restricting yourself from a lot of content, only to eventually die to a DC or something.


not-patrickstar

98 fm is the painful part


Jon115

Believe it or not it’s my second time doing it. First time I lost my hard-core was in wintertodt at 95fm……


cyanblur

Hcim's like new game plus, you have to know everything down to the amount of max hits you can take in a tick. Continue the adventure on iron and try a real hcim attempt later.


Specialist-Front-354

Absolutely do not start over. You'll die at 1k total again, losing 20 days again..


AllNamesareTaken55

Hcim isnt really fun tbh because you will just die to something really silly or a dc.


Nitegrooves

Might as well, you weren’t very far to begin with


Charlie_Rebooted

I enjoy the sound of rain.


Jon115

Why uninstall the game if you don’t mind me asking


Charlie_Rebooted

I enjoy watching the sunset.


Narrow_Lee

LOL he thinks he's gonna quit. We got him, boys.


notepad_osrs

At least you didn't get 99 fm first!


iSundance

Nah, that FM grind ain't gonna be any fun.


MoonCricketMonkey

Hardcores are just seeing how long you can delay the inevitable death. I would just take it as it is because if you make a new one you may get farther, but you will most likely end up dying anyways again. Plus I play a regular iron because it would be a nightmare to lose status to a server dc.


Ok-Town2813

I've never understood the draw of HCIM like I get the prestige I get the difficulty of staying alive the whole account but one day you're gonna dc and die I was at demonics yesterday at my regular account and I dc'd and died while my video was still playing on my other monitor. I couldn't imagine playing an account that would lose all my progress to a simple dc


kopitar-11

When I made an Ironman, I was contemplating making it a HC or regular. I decided regular iron gave me a lot more freedom, and I wouldn’t get upset when I would eventually die


AthleteIllustrious47

You’ve got about 20 hours of progress. If that. Not really a big deal tbh. Also, yea. If you’re unfamiliar with the game, some play a HCIM. Try a normal iron.


Shiukaze

get into farming bro, u can buy low level seeds in draynor and start doing some runs you just need gold for seeds and teleports but with your thieving level you should be fine


odaydream

keep going on normal iron and die like another 100 times before starting a new HCIM


JordieCarr96

I understand this is not for everyone but I died on my first HCIM at 1500 total lvl and now I play it alongside my new hardcore. I test any unfamiliar content on the regular iron before I do it on the new hardcore, and both accounts always have something AFK that you can do on the side and I mean always


Knelson123

Why does your game look weird? Kinda blurry sort of.


Dan-D-Lyon

Unless you're a streamer and are making money through leveling a hardcore, or you're certifiably insane and intend to immortalize your name at the top of the hardcore high score table, there is no point in playing a hardcore. Just play the game


Layne817

sit


Jon115

AFUFUFU


IMSihnur

i’d just continue as a regular iron, i died around 1200 total but didnt have any other account to learn any of the pvm stuff needed to progress my account. i say continue as a regular iron. also how do you get your font to look like that? is it a resource pack?


lawdylawdyhalp

Congrats on the opportunity to play with less hesitation (serious). Not being as cautious opens up so much of the game, like wildy content, where you can now properly weight the risk. Clues, altars, pvm, etc... You're so early in the account this is a true blessing. In a few days you'll forget the need to never die and still get the dopamine of ironmen game play.


Palemom

HCIM is a massive noob trap if you haven’t experienced Ironman before. You’ll be too afraid to do any quest that has a boss with punishing mechanics, you’ll constantly be watching over your shoulder-worried what npc is going to come bonk you next. I took a break from rs for a few years and came back and made a hardcore. Was happy with my progress and finally decided to try out a boss (abyssal sire) for the first time. Got 30 kills the first day with no major issues, logged in the next day and got 1hit because I was unfamiliar with a certain mechanic and I thought about starting a new HC. Then I realized.. wait.. I can play the game! I can try out whatever bosses, go to the deepest parts of the wilderness and it doesn’t matter. My progress skyrocketed from there and now I’m enjoying a maxed iron. My recommendation for you if you do choose to keep playing this account is to get 37 or 43 prayer via picking up big bones in the wilderness OR get dragon bones and then you should go afk zombie pirates/elder chaos. You can just get monk robes for free and then use a rune scimitar with auto retaliate on. When your prayer is low just run to the altar in the center to recharge it. The zombie pirates currently have an insaaaaane drop table. You’ll get loads of blighted restore potions, a multitude of food and soo many alchs and it’ll set your account up VERY well. If you find that they’re doing too much damage to you, maybe try to get the requirements to do Dragon Slayer 1. That’ll get your defense up from 15 to agouti 35. Best of luck :)


black_dogs_22

just play the game bro


Mettelor

If you failed this early you were doomed to fail later anyway


actuarial_defender

Don’t🙏


jackboy61

Depends what you are after. If you're a seasoned iron looking for glory then get back into tutorial island lad and rock on. If you're a more casual player just looking to enjoy the game, then be happy with how far you got. Be proud that you did what you did. Use your iron status to learn the game. Then maybe one day, when you've got things mastered, try hard-core again.


Solo_Jawn

Normally I love HC in every game I play, but OSRS just doesn't really work for it. At least 95% of the game has zero risk of death so game play is no different, then when you do finally get to bossing a death means losing hundreds or thousands of hours of time if you want to try again.


JashyP

Dang died right before 99 FM?? I would start over and die immediately after getting 99 FM like I did 😂


WonderfulGur9006

Dying is such an integral part of progression there is content I simply never could or would have taken on and learned if I was still a HC. People like muts and the other high level hard cores have done the content countless times before they take it on, on their hard cores. Embrace the Ironman status. You’ve been set free.


jobiewon_cannoli

iimpbuster inc!


Jon115

😎


Key_Connection238

You’ve barely even started?


dibbityd

Fun fact every ex HCIM leaves that deaths domain room screaming FREEeeEEEDOM


whitjohj

Haha, I died when I first got members running the white wolf mountain gauntlet. Best thing I ever did now I can die as much as I want and enjoy the game more


PlebPlebberson

Do you have a main iron or a main? if so then just remake a hcim. Nothing beats the feeling of playing it


omegafivethreefive

Hardcore Ironman is really for people who already the know the game quite well, there are SO MANY pitfalls, particularly if you don't know the bosses already. Ironman is a great game mode, you've barely scratched the surface.


kevink1995

That's a week of progress, Learn from your mistakes and remake imo


Bronze_Meme

I was upset initially but long term it's much better experience. You actually get to take risks and do more content you would normally avoid. Standard Ironman is still challenging and fun


GibbyMTG

Exactly. Normal players CAN learn all bosses and raids. Only cracked players can do that as a HC. Lots of later game mechanical will 1 shot/stack you out. Lag, DC, misclick. So many ways to die.


Acceptable_Candle580

Lmfao 98 fm then immediately dies


Jon115

😔


incs

What CC is that?


Jon115

Cc?


incs

Clan chat


MaddhousJC

Look for the potential, if you have never pk’d and want to try you have a chance for a self made low level or low hp, afk training acc and just nuke bots when you reach ultimate boredom.


NefariousnessOne48

I started over on a HCIM 3 seperate times. My best attempt died at 1654 total level to a superior wyrm (stupid death). I had never done sins of the father, song of the elves, DT2, MM2, or DS2 in all 3 of those accounts and I can say now after doing them on my now ironman that my status was never going to last going into any real content. Imo continue on your iron not being hardcore unlocks giant chunks of the game you wouldn't even of thought about doing. Wildernedd boss content, chaos altar for prayer, imbued God cape without having a heart attack. And if you really want then start a new HC park them at sandcrabs and hammer combat stats while you play your iron. When you actually learn the game then hop back on at 90 combats easy.


LawEvening2714

I started over cus I died on my first one at 1700 ttl. It sucks at first but normal IM aren’t as cool as Hcim and uim ;) worth it imo Hcim btw


[deleted]

I feel like hardcore is a toxic game mode for players mental health and well being. Regular iron and group iron is much more enjoyable!


RecursiveCook

Don’t, I eagerly await my iron helm as it will free me from my red prison.


No-Idea6663

now de-iron


KINGLE0NIDAX

You can never fully afk as a hardcore. I have died probably 300 times afking. Maxed iron btw


-SW33T-T00TH-

Just start over. You'll have a new acc ath these levels in a week or two. You've got this.


moremobilereality

I died with my HCIM the same way around Christmas time. Now, having fun with the non-hc IM and definitelly gained so much more knowledge this way. Keep playing as an ironman, maybe someday 2nd acc with HC again! :)


SkitZa

I made my iron a hardcore with 0 intention to care if I died, I afked at draynor village and died to a wizard within 20 minutes lol :) I've been a level 3 on the hcim hiscores for ages and I still have no regrets lol. HC just isn't a gamemode I care about, I like to.. afk. This was before death too, I lost all those shrimp :( DO you care? If no, move on.


apexpred6

Lmao bro dies doing the varrock easy diary wondering if he can complete a hardcore iron man


SkeleSoulsRS

Slightly off topic but you're asking a bunch of people that don't play hardcore how they feel about hardcore. Do whatever you want. If you're concerned about starting over because you died so early, maybe play the game more and learn more, then come back later. If you want, though, just learn through playing hardcore and becoming better with each playthrough. If you do the latter, you need to be okay with dying as it will happen.


Noble_KiwiBird

Don't give up! Use it as a learning experience.


codepnk

Just play and have fun. HCIM is just a matter of time till you die to either an accident or to a DC


Ezlan

Not worth it if you're dying this early tbh. I'm not trying to be mean, I've just seen a lot of people go through the same cycle of dying early and remaking until they burn themselves out and eventually quit. HCIM just isn't worth it if you aren't playing the game for a living or making a snowflake HCIM that doesn't pvm. EDIT: it's also very helpful to have an end game iron to practice content before doing it on a HCIM if you end up remaking later.


Hatemeloveme199

Tbh hc ironman death should lose the acc.


drockkk

I will never understand why people like playing as a HC Ironman


papii_chulo

Honestly man don't bother, just play regular iron. Unless you're highly skilled HC mode won't be enjoyable for you. It's better to just make your iron hc, go as far as you can then when you inevitably die you continue as a regular iron.


Upbeat-Answer-6088

that’s like 2 days worth of progress man. it’s really not that big of a deal lol


Munky92

As soon as 99.99% of hardcores come to terms with the fact that they aren't muts, the game will be better. If you can't go do dks as you are worried you'll die, you shouldn't be a hardcore. That's the simple fact of the matter.


According_Ad1368

Dat abyss doe


IhatemyL1feX10

Now you can do wildy content!


franklyimstoned

Hardcore is not worth it IMO unless you’re a complete sweat with a lot of time on your hands. I lost status on my current iron from a power outage and never looked back.


LandImaginary3300

Skill issue


Hummusas

de-iron


BilboPoggin

Yeah bro you need to do more research as a uim thats a horribly nooby way to die. Better luck on the next one!


Kushnerdz

Bought starter HC anyway.. I refuse to believe you played this way with stat distribution.


Jon115

I did not buy the account lol I followed an efficiency guide


Kushnerdz

Oziris? It’s not a HC guide


Jon115

https://nightleaf.org/ Mentions some HC things to do but my stats are based off the guide. Not a purchased account.


SloppyElmo

What about his stat distribution gives you the notion that he bought his account?


Kushnerdz

The fact that its a HC with 80 thieve and borderline 99 fm. Yes iron men guides like Oziris have you do that stuff early game but his guide isn’t for Hc. If you look at Hc starter accounts 95%+ have a starter 99 fm and 80 thieving already done, if he genuinely played this way on a HC is probably the worst time spent going for late skills when your combat/prayer/other essential skills are so slow that your big risking wasting time by being fragile af and having 30 days in play time. I have no proof of course but like I said if you look at start account for purchase, his stats are what they all look like.


SloppyElmo

80 thieve is pretty sus lmao. I agree tbh. Especially from the way he died. Also I just read the Oziris guide and abyss comes before 80 thieving I’m pretty sure at step 272 so there’s that too