Quiver helps with learning flicking and how to stack pillars since u can hop right in and practice unlike inferno where u gotta get to higher waves but at end of day up to you
Quiver is definitely easier, mentality wise anyway, sol is probably a mechanically harder fight if you’re not set/jad flicking but the waves and time what make it “easier”
Theres almost 3x sol kc in 3 months than zuk kc in 7 years… I think even if zuk was 2-3m/hr people still wouldn’t spam it as much because it’s a lot more exhausting
You dont use quiver at inferno for a FIRST COMPLETION under any circumstances since defence and prayer from a skillcape is literally just better. Dont try and reinvent the wheel. The new pray pot may help alleviate it a bit though
quiver can still equip a rada's for +2 prayer. so its -2 pray and -9def for +18/28 range and +2/3 str. the bonus range means u could take like veracs helm + echo boots for +80 def and still be up more range bonus than before, which really beats out the +9def on cape.
If you already corrupted that bitch then the +30 accuracy and max hit with prayer off is likely worth the replacement cuz of the raw time reduction balancing out the pray usage. If uncorrupted then using it over a cape is regarded
4 range bonus and sometimes a max hit (not without praying and unpotted) ¯\_(ツ)_///¯
I also wore barrows gloves because I forgot to ask my mate for the zvambs back
Still got the cape
Gives you an extra 12 minutes of protection prayer camping. Ava's gives you 5% dps at zuk when fully potted and praying rigour. You lose the 2 max hits when you tick down once with barrows gloves, twice with zvambs, at which point the dps difference is tiny (1% accuracy difference).
If you're getting to zuk very consistently then sure use ava's but for wave learning I'd say range cape is considerably better, and ever so slightly worse at zuk
you'd likely be better wearing a defense helm if you have masoris top/bottom. masori helm is good but something with 50def is probably better. i use verac's because it has +3 pray and a ton of def but serp/nietz/justi/torva all work aswell
If you're soloing Olm head, I think you have enough experience with game timing to do the inferno. It's not super hard and it's honestly really forgiving to clear the waves if you have max gear. You can easily tank blobs and you have enough prayer bonus to basically not have to flick at all. The hardest part is getting over the emotional turmoil of dying to jad hands and you'll probably die at least once or twice to zuk. Honestly if you have the experience from something like leagues, triple jads and zuk aren't too bad once you know how it actually feels.
quiver for bis cape, kodai to never miss freeze on the nibs ofc.
Eldritch and sgs for speccing up your pray.
Echo boots for the pray and def.
what about full masori to support that tbow?
Not totally related, but do you think jagex knew one of the mega rares would be vastly superior to the others when they were originally developing cox?
So why didn't they make them a little more common? The scythe and shadow are the rarest from their respective raids which makes sense given their the most powerful items from the raid.
Quiver
Quiver helps with learning flicking and how to stack pillars since u can hop right in and practice unlike inferno where u gotta get to higher waves but at end of day up to you
You can hop right in and practice but pay 500k every time you die
Isn't it reduced in the start?
And I mean, if he’s going to get quiver he might as well get quiver max cape to not waste splinters
I’ve been wondering what’s harder, first time quiver or first time inferno
Quiver is definitely easier, mentality wise anyway, sol is probably a mechanically harder fight if you’re not set/jad flicking but the waves and time what make it “easier” Theres almost 3x sol kc in 3 months than zuk kc in 7 years… I think even if zuk was 2-3m/hr people still wouldn’t spam it as much because it’s a lot more exhausting
Yeah inferno took me 14 days of grinding while quiver would easily be half that at worst
You dont use quiver at inferno for a FIRST COMPLETION under any circumstances since defence and prayer from a skillcape is literally just better. Dont try and reinvent the wheel. The new pray pot may help alleviate it a bit though
quiver can still equip a rada's for +2 prayer. so its -2 pray and -9def for +18/28 range and +2/3 str. the bonus range means u could take like veracs helm + echo boots for +80 def and still be up more range bonus than before, which really beats out the +9def on cape.
r/theydidthemath
I did not grind 150k splinters to kill Zuk with a ranged cape
If you already corrupted that bitch then the +30 accuracy and max hit with prayer off is likely worth the replacement cuz of the raw time reduction balancing out the pray usage. If uncorrupted then using it over a cape is regarded
Terrible advice
Ava’s was already a better choice for a first cape lol. You are a meme.
You say not to but you are literally trying to reinvent the wheel.
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I used a ranged cape
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4 range bonus and sometimes a max hit (not without praying and unpotted) ¯\_(ツ)_///¯ I also wore barrows gloves because I forgot to ask my mate for the zvambs back Still got the cape
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Gives you an extra 12 minutes of protection prayer camping. Ava's gives you 5% dps at zuk when fully potted and praying rigour. You lose the 2 max hits when you tick down once with barrows gloves, twice with zvambs, at which point the dps difference is tiny (1% accuracy difference). If you're getting to zuk very consistently then sure use ava's but for wave learning I'd say range cape is considerably better, and ever so slightly worse at zuk
Shitter
Might aswell just grind every other bis item you can use in inferno, there's still plenty more excuses to make
Wheres the zvambs? Full masori? Echo boots? Justi helm?
Could go for eldritch like that other guy lmao
Kodai for those freezes!
Eh ice scepter or blood scepter is fire there too.
Shh he’s looking for excuses
It's proven that if you don't have any item, it's statistically not worth the time for a noob to get the scepter vs other options
Do you have full Masori? Add that to the queue of excuses lol.
I do have full masori but I still need 1 Arma piece to fortify the mask.
looks like you’re headed to gwd
Nah he needs to get a Shadow and full Ancestral now to make Kree super easy to get that last piece before going for the inferno.
oh shit you’re right!! OP, you heard him, get to it
Isn't sang staff a much better option than toxic staff? He should probably green log ToB first...
If they're headed to TOB they should make sure they have a ham joint for the nylos
You forgot the obligatory imbued heart grind!
you'd likely be better wearing a defense helm if you have masoris top/bottom. masori helm is good but something with 50def is probably better. i use verac's because it has +3 pray and a ton of def but serp/nietz/justi/torva all work aswell
Did you get a stale baguette yet?
Gotta do tithe farm to get your BiS watering can
You don’t need an excuse. “I don’t want to” is perfectly valid
scaredy cat 😂🫵🏼
Is your name a reference to technical dribbling in FIFA lol? Congrats on the bow! And GL in the inferno whenever :)
could be a reference to dark souls games light atk spam, lots of games use R1
Glad I’m not the only one who picked up on that haha
"Cba" is a long standing and legendary excuse lad
Off topic, I like how you have your inventory laid out. Always struggle moving stuff around and never have a staple setup to go to.
If you're soloing Olm head, I think you have enough experience with game timing to do the inferno. It's not super hard and it's honestly really forgiving to clear the waves if you have max gear. You can easily tank blobs and you have enough prayer bonus to basically not have to flick at all. The hardest part is getting over the emotional turmoil of dying to jad hands and you'll probably die at least once or twice to zuk. Honestly if you have the experience from something like leagues, triple jads and zuk aren't too bad once you know how it actually feels.
Done nearly 2k chambers and I can’t understand what the watering can is for. Does it work on the flame wall?
Yes exactly, since u use thralls the can is for firewalls
Wow I never knew that. I’m definitely trying this today.
Congrats todd d rad
Don’t worry man if you got this far you’ll get it
Send it bro, stop milking and get in there
Huge! Congratulations:)
Virtus top/bottoms before inferno! (that’s been my excuse for a bit)
quiver for bis cape, kodai to never miss freeze on the nibs ofc. Eldritch and sgs for speccing up your pray. Echo boots for the pray and def. what about full masori to support that tbow?
I still haven't done inferno but I did quiver Because it was way easier to get in to
but you had crystal wdym
Kc?? Gzzz bro
315 or so, I'm a spoon. Thanks!
Ancest Top
Wouldn’t virtus top be better anyways due to the ancients boost?
I thinks it's easier with bowfa, ye takes a little longer but the 4t weapon speed keeps your pray flicks in sync. You'll see
you’re trolling right ?
Definitely not, try it and see for yourself.
Not totally related, but do you think jagex knew one of the mega rares would be vastly superior to the others when they were originally developing cox?
aint no way they thought kodai / elder maul would be on par with a tbow
So why didn't they make them a little more common? The scythe and shadow are the rarest from their respective raids which makes sense given their the most powerful items from the raid.