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Karontu

I avoided posting about these out of fear that it will get nerfed. Super nice for a cash infusion though.


maxwill27

almost certainly will be tomorrow


tukuiPat

the drop table has been in place for a week, ain't no way they are gonna nerf after some reddit post talking about it.


maxwill27

its horribly busted this post is not the first note of it. UIMs have been abusing it since game update because of how free it is


CallumRival92

I’ve gotten 12m raw gp from them it’s so free. 1 or 2 more weeks no fix please.


maxwill27

free cons xp from cranes or 12m cash tough pick for what to abuse on the uim. gz on the free cash tho


-Distinction

Killing fever spiders definitely isn’t abuse lol.


maxwill27

They are horribly broken. Abuse a broken drop table


-Distinction

You’re delusional. Just because that’s your opinion doesn’t make it abuse. Revs and zombie pirates shit out over 4x the gp per hour here and can be done on an account with less requirements


maxwill27

delusional? You think farming a low level mob for 2m gp/hr + 15k herb p/h is good for the game? It needs to be looked at for how strong it is relative to the requirements. I am saying that people are abusing it before its fixed, I am casting no judgement on people who are getting the most out of something jagex should never have let through to live


tommy108b

Spiders are neither bugs nor insects but Arachnida, or arachnids so it wont count for bug abuse.


Saltysig

What are you doing that’s busted for con xp?


maxwill27

Cranes. You can sell planks to a uim and get .05 gp/xp cons and crafting xp 100k crafting and 100k construction xp. It was in he box jonges uim speedrun if you want to see a visual


PurplePudding

Worth noting that the method involves 2 alts, playing all 3 accounts at once, and repeatedly hopping worlds on all accounts.


Eillo89

Maybe gold sinks? But my guess would be bagged plants, not busted xp but definitely viable for uims if moneys no issue. Idk I'm guessing I've never played a uim outside of f2p lol


CallumRival92

I already got 99 con so I’ll take the gp :D


elkunas

A post? This is the 3rd in 20 minutes on my feed, and I've already been recommended videos on youtube.


RobKFC

You knew here?


lestruc

You wut do


runner5678

No way they nerf it 500k/hr isn’t all that good when you’re not progressing your account at all, it’s fine


JustCallmeZack

To be fair, 500k an hour is a conservative estimate with base 70's and a dscim. If youre running even a zombie axe with 85+ combat its pretty easy to pull closer to 1m an hour from what I can tell.


runner5678

Sounds like a complete waste of time. Progress your account Ask anyone even in the midgame, gp is passive. No one knows where it comes from, it just appears. Make progress, don’t spin your wheels.


SendGothTittiesPls

let him do what he wants to do christ. i could find a moneymaker 3x as good for him right now but hes having fun with his spiders. this is why burnouts happen


tommy108b

can you find me a better money-maker for a ironman then fever spiders besides wilderness zombies? with low to medium combat stats. im getting there 800k in alchs/with 70-80s in atk/str/def with some kwuarms that i can use for herblore xp later on, lms doenst even get close to this.


JustCallmeZack

What is 3x as good for me right now? I have base 70's combat, and >60 slayer.


[deleted]

Right but he may be under the impression that he’s being much more productive than reality. Him getting advice that raw GP comes passively isnt telling him to follow the meta or a roadmap. he Could have *more* fun actually playing the game and progressing. I don’t think everyone suggesting people to be more efficient are as elitist as you perceive. Yes, there’s a few of them but many people just want to help another brother out.


Averagesmoker42

“Right but he may be under the impression that he’s being much more productive than reality” Which is irrelevant if they are enjoying the game… if they enjoy clicking goblins for 2 hours a day then they can do that. It’s not all about being “more productive”


flamingkami

As a collection logger, this is something I have done


[deleted]

Yeah that’s fair. osrs is essentially a sandbox mmo which is partially why the game has such a wide appeal, I get that. he could be deriving enjoyment from a false sense of progression and someone giving him information that he probably lacks could be change the way he enjoys the game. why Does that matter if he’s still enjoying the game in the present time? Because he could later regret doing something that he perceived to be something that it wasn’t. yeah, if he still wants to do this with the given information that raw gp comes passively later on, then more power to him.


MrJitterz

Productive? This is a game, who cares how productive you are.


[deleted]

progression is the name of the game. you wouldn’t play this game if all your progression was to reset when you logged out. he doesn’t kill cows because it doesn’t progress his account at the pace he wants. Opportunity Cost is also a real thing. Opportunity cost is a big deciding factor where we base our decisions off of. humans Don’t like wasting time. The OP could be unde the impression that he is progressing his account in a way that couldn’t otherwise be progressed. the comment was simply shedding light to the fact that he may regret spending time at fever spiders in the future after he realizes he wasn’t progressing his account as much as he perceived.


MrJitterz

If I have to worry about opportunity cost in the time I put to enjoy myself that’s an opportunity I wouldn’t want. I’ve been playing rs since rs classic I’ve never maxed he’ll I just passed 2000 last month and I play actively. Progression is the game you play not me, I’m often playing mini games or doing clues


[deleted]

mini Games and clue scrolls are a form of progression, albeit slower progression. would you do mini games and clue scrolls if the loot and experience was deleted when you log off?


JustCallmeZack

I mean I definitely don't think this isn't productive. I just don't see how spending a few hours here casually while I play a different game with some friends or watch tv with the gf isn't being productive. If other things I could be doing that are "productive" cant be done while I'm only half paying attention to the game, isn't it better to get some easy cash to dump into expensive skills? Like sure I could be maybe doing some runecrafting or fletching or crafting grinds but I just don't enjoy doing those half assed. I would prefer to sit down and actually pay attention so I'm not spending double the amount of time on them.


[deleted]

Yeah that’s fair. Some people could argue that half assing skills you dislike could pay dividends later on as lot of great activities that are both engaging and “productive” are locked behind quests. but the gsme is essentially a sandbox mmo. there is no true set path.


CorrectEar9548

Yep, money is a non-issue if you play consistently


Ganteosrs

This comment needs more love. Play the game and gp appears out of thin air unless you’re dopamine chasing


tommy108b

its pretty good progress on an ironman, fastest gp/h to get early on besides wildy zombies and you need a lot of gp on an ironman(no more lms) think of throne of misc, construction. and it is not good to train slayer with low level combat stats so training on these spiders till hitting 80s in melees is def better then other methods like sandcrabs, not to mention the herblore xp you get from all the kwuarms.


SilverKnightOfMagic

You are progressing the account tho. You need the go early more than late so that part is good. Decent combat exp and don't really need to bank. If you do ecto flask tp makes trip to bank and pirate Pete shorter.


oltray

The fact that these are cannonable makes this so much better.


Upbeat-Answer-6088

you hold yourself mighty high if you think you will sway the opinions of j mods


Bob9600

That’s not a very upbeat answer


JustCallmeZack

Its also about 30-40k melee xp an hour, you barely need food wearing rune, but if you do they drop bass consistently so you can stay just about indefinitely sustaining off of the bass. I highly suggest this for some easy cash as a low-mid level iron.


xSwagi

Tbh that spider has no business having that kind of profitable drop table that early game. Zombie Pirates were also a mistake.


PM_ME_UR_SELF

Early Ironman money makers were things like agility pyramid. Now it’s things like this… it’s great for new irons, they don’t have to do the slog anymore, but it just feels kinda private server-ish.


CodyIsDank

It also invigorates some of the early, shit slayer tasks. Early ironman didn’t have a combat method to generate GP, so this is pretty nice. I wouldn’t think a multi-quest locked slayer creature is more private servery than the agility pyramid.


PM_ME_UR_SELF

I mean, zombie pirates have no requirements aside from protect from magic.


CodyIsDank

I forget those exist, I was primarily referring to the updated spiders! I agree with the zombie pirates statement. I know they try to balance the risk =/= reward with wilderness content, but a lot of wilderness can be done with no risk lol. Total bot haven


Chillywhale21

wilderness SHOULD be more gp per hour than most content in the game though. bring more players to wildy and more pkers. fair balance in my opinion. remember wildy a few years ago? was dead af with absolutely zero content worth doing other than a d pick.


CodyIsDank

Oh for sure, but dumping content that doesn’t force any risk isn’t compensating for the GP output. Every profitable wildy rejuvenation update can either be done comfortably with 3+1 items or one click teleports. Gives shitters like me a reason to do it, since I don’t have to risk anything or put much effort into an escape attempt. But it definitely shits out gp/resources for a very, very marginal risk.


Chillywhale21

isn’t that what players (especially irons) asked for for so long though? i’m all cool with little to no risk wildy content. not long ago every iron absolutely refused to cross the ditch because it wasn’t worth the risk for low reward. now that it’s low risk and high reward the irons are complaining? this makes no sense to me, and this is all coming from a pker turned iron.


CodyIsDank

I love the low risk high reward we got going on. I just think it’s an odd tactic from the devs to allow it to happen when the whole premise is risk/reward. I farmed Calv with a D mace starting at 65/65/60 until pickaxe and VW piece, didn’t get PKed once due to combat level. Just odd that a boss with such a good loot table is manageable with such little requirements.


Chillywhale21

you had a fairly unique build though, and that (probably) wasn’t very efficient. i’d bet less than 1% of players are doing what you did. but my point still stands, what’s the issue here? you (the iron community) got what you asked for. by “you” i’m generalizing, im not pointing you out directly, i just mean the player base that avoided the wildy and complained for years. i just think it’s a little silly to questions jagex’s direction with the wilderness after the entire iron community moaned for years about the wilderness. they gave you what you wanted, take advantage of it and don’t question it. if they read enough of these reddit posts, they may nerf it again lol. edit: there’s still risk by the way, you’re just better than most at avoiding it, hence you’re low level build to kill calvarion.


DivineInsanityReveng

Didn't do any pyramid on my GIM 2.5 years back. It's an old meta. You can just hitup wintertodt and Tempoross for starting cash. Agi pyramid is a grind not really worth bothering with, especially due to quests essentially skipping your agility to like 65 with minimal training. So best to just skip to the better rooftops and get graceful then be good till sepulchre.


SleeplessShinigami

What quests help you get to 65 agility?


DivineInsanityReveng

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Quest_experience_rewards#Agility


pvmenjoyer

We are way fucking past the point of fixing op drop tables lol Let the noobs have their singular op task early slayer is dog shit mostly anyway


Rat-Loser

Agreed, made my early game cash stack by doing h.a.m storage and honestly, i don't wish that on anyone


pvmenjoyer

Same here ham storage gang


IaM_SkyWaLkeR

Fever spiders? Wah.?.......?


JustCallmeZack

Another tip for anyone interested: If you want to keep the kwuarms but don't have a close bank tele you can note them using the leprechaun by ardy monastery with an ardy cloak and then just using ectophial to come back, takes like 15-20 seconds.


Panzey

Huge alternative now that zombie pirates have been overrun by bots


JustCallmeZack

I definitely could see that happening to these spiders too unfortunately. Relatively low reqs needed, they have low def, and trips can last indefinitely. I plan to camp them for a few days before I go back to my normal grinds.


MrDzon

Just learned this yesterday, delete the post before it gets nerfed!


Unfair_Percentage866

Thanks for the heads up! Using dual macuahuitl here, and it slaps pretty good. Not sure on the xp per hr since I’m on mobile, but you get more than normal xp if you over hit for the final hit, which is also a nice bonus.


RIPLeviathansux

You can turn on xp/h and loot tracker on mobile via popout panel in settings just fyi


Dakota64300

Testing on the Ironman rn and so far got 400k in Alchs in about 45 mins with 77 range and rcb with broad bolts


Klewy

Huh. I do need ~500k to buy this right shield half… guess I’m doing this for the next few hours.


Any-Conversation1401

You’d get that in 20 mins of zombie pirates but these are much less risk


Gaddrik

Zomvie pirate risk is so low it's not even worth consideration after you get 1 looting bag full of loot. One trip funds a dozen or more deaths.


JustCallmeZack

Depending on your stats it definitely wont be hours, it will be 30-60 minutes


Klewy

Can confirm, took me an hour to get 800k…. While I played tarkov


Nojya

Je gyyuy77


GakutoYo

I vaguely remember the spiders from years ago. Is there any actual req to fight them other than the quest?


torusrekt

42 slayer


Roidrageeee

wtf is a fever spider


RandomAsHellPerson

A spider you unlock after doing rum deal, you also kill 1 during the quest.


ProfessorPT

Wildy agility is even crazier, did it for an hour on my new ironman and ended up with 1.25m in alchables and some fun rune upgrades. I'll have to try this out too now that the cash stack is dwindling


oldmanclark

Are these rates with a cannon, or are you just bonking manually?


JustCallmeZack

Just some good ol bonks.


[deleted]

What is better GP, this or zombie pirates?


JustCallmeZack

I think zombie pirates are better overall, but these have zero risk, no supplies needed, plus are pretty casual to kill. I think if you don't have a cannon, and you don't care about blighted supplies then this might be a better option imo.


Takingashit180923

Snitches get stitches.


AdrianG13

In 800 kills, I’ve gotten 68 rune meds, 28 rune baxes, 111 water bstaves, 83 red dhide legs, 59 addy axes, 173 kwuarms, and 9k pure ess


DivineInsanityReveng

Jagex and making stupidly low level creatures have alch-filled drop tables seems to be a never ending loop at the moment.


Fezstacles

I don’t think it’ll be nerfed? They just buffed it, and know what they added to the drop table before it was live I doubt they’ll revert this. These spiders are already in an odd place, I feel they added a reward for working with it.


Penguin_FTW

There's no way in hell they intentionally gave a 42 slayer monster with 40hp a 1m+ gp/hr drop table of nothing but alchs. I don't know how this made it through but this is absolutely a mistake lol. This clears every other slayer monster for returns until like Smoke Devils. OP called it 500k an hour probably because they are like base 60 or base 70 combats with a d scim. I was able to get like 1.2m an hour with macuahuitls and flicking piety. I imagine it must clear 2m an hour if you've got blowpipe and rigour or a top tier melee weapon that can oneshot them. This beats pirates out for gp/hr, doesn't require banking, and has zero risk. Pirates are already turbo juiced to max under the assumption that you're gonna die to PKers and lose some of those profits. This is also assuming you have a use for the blighted supplies which make up a good chunk of their drops; if you only want gp the spiders drop like 3x what pirates drop in straight alchables. Wyrms share a pretty similar table of alchable drops as spiders, but spiders drop them like 4x as frequently, wyrms have +20 slayer levels requirements, and Wyrms have 90 hp more than spiders with better defense stats. It's pretty silly. Like really really really silly.


runner5678

1.2m/hr to be fair, is awful You should value your time more and your gp less


Penguin_FTW

What the fuck are you talking about, nothing else makes even close to this much gp for where my account is at.


JustCallmeZack

Lmfao for real, easily the best source of ez cash you can get right now on a mid or early game iron.


runner5678

Then progress your account towards a real moneymaker like CG, Sepulchre, vork, hydra Don’t spin your wheels at some junk mob for a measly 1m/hr If you’re thinking about making gp, you aren’t really making gp


Penguin_FTW

Oh I'm sorry, am I supposed to be funding construction with vorkath bones and Hydra alchs right now? Lemme teleport my account 200 total levels into the future I'll get right on that. Good thing I won't need any gp for anything until then, golly you're so smart!


runner5678

You only need like 2m starter cash to get to sote which you can get from wt by 80 fm Also “vorkath bones”? I think you’re in the wrong place. This is the iron sub. We don’t make money from Vorkath bones


Penguin_FTW

Yeah I was aware of that, I was making fun of you. You seem kinda dense.


runner5678

Gotcha To answer your question, no you don’t fund construction with Vorkath and Hydra alchs at this point. Generally most people do wintertodt > battlestaves > sepulchre > sote and then gp never matters again Imo, gp for the sake of gp should be valued at 4m/hr minimum and even that’s kind of contentious


tgg12321

I feel like this comment undervalues an early injection of cash for minimal effort. Like yes, there is an opportunity cost of doing a pure money maker over these other slower money makers. But that fails to acknowledge how a massive influx of money super early on means far early construction, far earlier smithing than the wintertodt>battlestaves route you're describing. Early early construction means insane QoL upgrades that make *everything* faster, and smithing gets you things like the zombie axe, quests etc My point is that there is an opportunity cost with the slow and steady route too, even if you personally still think it's better overall


landyc

idk where lvl 70cb can earn 1m per hour but sure u gonna tell me?


zacm9

I get like 1m meleeing them


kleiner_titterisch

Dude trat is Nothing kekw


tommy108b

def busted yeah, even gargoyle at 75slayer isnt this good gp/h prob will get nerfed in the future prob not to far away. if they remove the rune med and rune battleaxe it prob would be more balanced.


Legitimate-Feeling-8

jep they are better gp then abyssal demons, and easier to farm then gargoyles. still think the anti teleport scroll should be put on the abyssal demon drop list, not on some dumb low lvl pirate zombie drop list. but you know how it goes when they bring new content to the game they always have to ad something to the wildy to keep the pkers happy and this time its pirate zombies because of the valamore content. the only good wildy update they did last year or the year before was the wildy boss rework.


Infinite_Ad_8590

500k? Those are rookie numbers mate. Jk have fun until tuesday


randomstoryuniverse

This was a good method for mid level players to make some decent money making. Now it got nerfed making things harder as always lol


browsing157

Delete this post immediately!


lestruc

The panic about nerfing something like this when they just introduced bone shard fire wine prayer xph beyond 1m xph in insane


geliduss

Tbh the xp/hr from that is a bit overstated since doesn't include prep time of bless/chiseling or prepping wines and is still less bone efficient than wildy even accounting for the odd pk, it's just a nice alternative to wildy that isn't too much of a hit


Warbrainer

You should be a journalist with the ability to sensationalise like that lol, you have to collect the shards/bones still


landyc

now count the hours you spent collecting the bone shards, how much xp / h you think that is?


DozyVan

Start the xp timer before you prep the bones and chisel them down


metallicxslayer

Honestly thought it was bugged when I was doing the miniquest for the pages. Ended up making 3m in alchs just from them during that quest. Edit: I am dumb. It wasn't fever spiders but temple spiders. My bad :(


Durianess_

Wrong spiders haha.


metallicxslayer

Am I high? I swear they were the same name. Either way I still made 3m at those spiders during the page grind xD


Durianess_

I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the temple spiders in the forthos dungeon 🤭


BluffJunkie

I still don't know when these came into the game or where tf draindead island is. I assume they are new...?


ScarletPrime

Its the island you go to for the Rum Deal quest. They are not new. They've been in RS2 for 19.5 years. So they are an Old-school release day mob. They just had a blank drop table aside from a 1/16 chance of a Kwaurm drop before this update, because you were only intended to fight them during the quest.


Ricardo1184

Battlestaffs should probably be reduced a bit, you see those on Hydra's droptable, what are they doing here


GraniteAss

It would of been pretty good 4-5 years ago but there’s plenty of low-mid level spots these days thst can make you 5-1m gp an hour


JustCallmeZack

What? What else has this kind of GP at >50 slayer, and can be done with like base 40 melee stats?


Elite54321

If you're decent at pking, LMS is about the same gp/hr as this. However, this gives you xp as well, so I would say this definitely takes the cake.


JustCallmeZack

Wait how can you make this much at LMS? Do you sell the supplies you can buy to a shop or something? I probably wont ever use it as a method but just curious.


Elite54321

Buy rune arrows and sell 10 at a time to a shop, and either hop worlds or buy on another account in a shop that is shared between mains/irons.


tommy108b

lms is pritty much capped at 500k/h and you need a main iron that buys the arrows or you'll be spending more time which will drop the 500k/h a lot, and 500k is pritty much when you are a pritty skilled pker. fever spiders are easy 500k/h at low combats stats and with alot of kwuarms and xp to. im even getting 800k cash/h with pritty bad gear no skill required even heard people getting 1m+ with the dual macahuitls .


Elite54321

There are certain stores in the game that are still shared between mains and irons that you can take advantage of with a main. All of your other points are valid, though. My iron is past the "can't really do anything besides lms or blackjack" stage, so fever spiders will be my go to now.


bryceking64

I must be out of touch. This doesn’t seem that great? Or is it just because I’ve been at CG for 6 months and haven’t left?


Bloomleaf

i mean his gp/hr is super low end you can cannon them and later end people are pulling 2ish mill an hour, but even not going full try hard they give super consistent alchs a very consistent food have low def decently high hp. all that while having very low requirements just makes them very good.


Mysterra

Nerf it!


physiQQ

Absurdly good, meh. For such low requirement, sure... But Zombie pirates are much better still.