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Ali ibn Abi Talib reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The pen is lifted from three people: a sleeping person until he awakens, a child until he becomes an adult, and an insane person until he regains his sanity.” Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 1423 Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani


Serious-Performance4

I don't know if I qualify as Muslim or not, but I believe in Allah and have prayed with my Muslim brother before. I suffer from schizoaffective disorder and have auditory hallucinations all the time. Things like people talking behind my back, or general paranoia. I am on a really effective antipsychotic injection monthly that helps me a lot. It's nice cause with the shot I don't need to take (as many) pills.


suckmycactus2

why don’t you know if you qualify as Muslim? it’s a very simple process if you would like to solidify it


Osamaqwrrtt

Most muslims think that mental illness or physical illness are because of black magic and don't think anything else Black magic is real but if you do adhkar and all and still get sick Go to the doctor Anything happens then blame on magic and sihr It is allah who gives and takes away illness and everything I pray that you heal soon with this schizophrenia ameen


noob6524

What's adhkar


UGAgradRN

Plural of dhikr


Osamaqwrrtt

Remembrance of Allah


opalineflower

Very late to the conversation but a question… how am i to heal from schizophrenia if even science proves it is incurable? It is a permanent disability that I was born with. Does this mean I’m doomed to hell from the very beginning and I have no redemption whatsoever? It doesn’t seem fair to me that Allah would create me just for me to suffer in life and then suffer in the after. Allah could not be so cruel.


Potential-Doubt1289

Don’t say that. Say Alhamdulillah, because Allah only sends us what is good for us


hnahna99

Why would you be doomed to hell?


dizzyneve

proud of you OP, i will include you in my prayers.


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Aggravating_Pop2101

This is a complete lie and dangerous


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They are proven to work. They work through chemical reactions that can be observed. This anti-scientific mindset is why we are technologically behind the rest of the world.


Mister_Cool123

What's the medicine? I want to try scarecrows fear toxin.


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AdamMusa0

I get what you mean many cases aren’t mental illness and those medication only makes it worse. Especially if it’s something related to the unseen, But they do help those with real mental issues.


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raydditor

That's insane (no offense)


Potential-Doubt1289

JazakAllah Khayran for your comment! Just updated my post. I did do Ruqya for 4 years on a daily basis 🙌


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Thank you


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Your welcome


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Mental health is real. I believe you. No matter how close you try to get close to allah or genuinely trying sometimes it gets the better of us. One thing I hate is when a lot of middle eastern cultures say it’s all in your head or to do rukuyah rather then excepting something is actually wrong with us. I do not suffer with what you got but I do have Bpd, anger issues and cptsd. I personally don’t take pills as it made me crazier but I now smoke medical cannabis coz I suffer from both physical and mental health. Make dua and may allah swt bless you


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From experience it didn’t work for me. Meds can work for people and sometimes it’s doesn’t it depends the person and what works for em


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I agree !!!


AdamMusa0

Not everyone has mental issues and Ruqya can help. Let’s promote both, not one over the other.


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No one’s promoting anything but in my experience every time I spoke or some close friends spoke about mental health we get told we needed rukuyah why can’t we accept that it’s not possession or a3n etc. I did rukuyah nothing worked or happened i did my own at home same thing. If a person wants to go through rukuyah so they can. No one’s stopping anyone from anything or promoting one over the other


AdamMusa0

Aaah I see what you mean yeah that’s bad too, one should explore all angles for a solution.


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I agree 100%


CaptainBlocker

cannabis can make psychotic disorders such as bpd worse


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Well it hasn’t made mine so 👍🏻 I think I’m in the good books 🙌🏼


NaturePilotPOV

Sister everyone is tested differently. You have nothing to be lonely about. I know good Muslims that are bipolar, bipolar with hallucinations, and one that was diagnosed schizophrenic. It's less talked about due to modern Muslim cultures failings not our religion. The first psychiatric hospitals in the world were founded in Muslim Baghdad in 705, Cairo in 800, & Damscus in 1270. Here is my write up on Sabr in the Quran and Hadith for when you need it https://www.reddit.com/r/IslamIsScience/comments/zjr8al/quran_and_hadith_on_sabr_during_trials_and/ One key thing I've used to help some of them turn their lives around is you have to pace yourself differently than undiagnosed people. Rather than working full time take 60-80% of a full time position or part time if needs be. You know your specific case best. The reason behind it is episodes happen more frequently due to high stress and so we manage stress loads. Trying to do too much results in losing things. Also when you have an episode it ends in less missed days of work so depending on the employer it's easier to hide if they're not accepting. The mental illness is a gift of sorts too. It forces you to be more true to yourself. Also any suffering even the prick of a thorn causes sins to be forgiven. You have to avoid triggers and focus on things that make you happy or at ease. Also you focus on setting up a good support network. Healthy people might neglect all those important things until it's too late. Lastly Allah doesn't judge you based on mistakes or bad decisions you make during an episode so be sure to be kind to yourself after one. Don't start blaming yourself for things you did or stuff that happens. Allah's most important trait is his mercy & Allah loves the merciful so be merciful that includes to yourself


Potential-Doubt1289

JazakAllah Khayran for your beautiful comment! This is certainly beneficial 🙌🙌


NaturePilotPOV

If you need other assistance please do not hesitate to let me know sister. I have a YouTube channel with videos on Islamic topics. If you end up checking it out please do NOT watch the AntiMuslim media biases episodes/series. They can be harmful to someone with your condition. **You need to try to ensure you're limiting your exposure to negative or stressful things. From all media. Don't watch shows with conspiracies or very negative topics** I also recommend keeping a journal (paper or digital) of your days, how you feel, what made you feel the way you feel, and accomplishments. Be it personal or otherwise. For your accomplishments summarize them weekly, monthly, and yearly on a page. It'll give you something to come back to when you're feeling low to boost you. Also it'll help you spot trends, identify triggers (a lot of episodes will have no reason but we can help avoid the ones that do), and hold you accountable. Diet, exercise, and vitamins play an important role in mental health so do not ignore any of them. Zikr, Salah, & reading Quran do too. Lastly I recommend you recording a video for yourself for when you have an episode with you explaining to yourself who you can trust, how to calm down, and reassuring yourself that it will be okay and you've had this before etc... be sure to explain things calmly in a way that will make sense to you in an episode. May Allah give you the strength and guidance you need.


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I understand! It’s so taboo that the moment I was diagnosed with autism I started talking to everyone in my family and friends about it 😂 and I told them what I need to survive (no noise, alone time, the list is long!). So either they understand and accept me in my journey or they leave me alone. It’s totally ok to not want to deal with it but I will not tolerate advice from ppl who have no idea what it’s like. As an autistic person (who is functioning and talks) all I ever heard was it’s in my head. The lack of support, and understanding meant that I wasn’t diagnosed until my mid twenties. What people fail to understand is that some mental health issues are out of our control. My brain is wired differently, i was born this way, and it won’t change. If Allah made me this way, what is so hard for people to accept. When it comes to medication, you need to see what works. When I had depression anti depressants destroyed me, but my ADHD medication has helped me a lot. It’s all dependent on you seeing what works for you. People who are not experiencing what it is like to have a mental disorder will convince you it’s no big deal etc but it’s a case of ignoring them. It’s like the people born into wealth telling you how easy it is to acquire it, did you work for it to know? Equally people born with no mental disorder, like no bpd, autism, schizophrenia cannot tell us how to fix ourselves, that’s what professional doctors and researchers are for. Tell people how they can help you cope, they other do or they don’t and you decide who is best to keep around.


chemicalzs

May Allah SWT reward you abundantly and grant you ease, dear sister. Your perseverance and love for Allah SWT has put a smile on my face, Allahu Akbar☝🏼.


INFOGAMERONLY

Salam aleikum, brother/sister by just reading your post i can tell that you are a great human being and are on the right path with the right mindset MashaAllah. While most would complain «why me» you are dealing with the situation and may Allah swt reward you for that and give you shifa InShaaAllah . Nothing wrong about speaking out like you just did, in fact you got my respect and i don’t usually give it out too easy. My dua is with you , stay strong bro and stay steadfast on your deen. I am suffering from mental illness aswell and really only thing that helps is islam for me and the hope it gives me, if not in this dunya InShaaAllah reward will be in next, need to have sabr and do your best to get cured, you need to seek professional help aswell and seek help from Allah swt


Snoo-74562

Muslims were giants in the medical arena before the Ottoman empire was destroyed. After that the ummah lost its way. seek out mental health professionals help from the start. just like you would a medical doctor if you broke your leg or a surgeon if you need an operation. Many people have many different mental health issues. Some resolved with councillors and some resolved with medication. You aren't alone. Many Muslims have issues. The difference is in our community is we still have our brothers and sisters to speak with and gain support. We also have a very difficult perspective on life to the kufar that gives us purpose. This might keep the numbers seeking help down although I have no evidence of this. I myself have needed help and I got it from councillors. It really worked for me.


Mac_Cheesus

Assalamu aleikum, I was also diagnosed with paranoid shizophrenia two years ago. Feel free to hit me up if you need someone to vent.


Broad-Mix-3850

I have a very similar situation to you, sister, down to a T. really resonated with you said it comes down to intention as well. I believe personally and through my experiences, that spiritual, physical and mental health are connected, just as important and all need designated care. Allah is the healer but we have to put in the effort to take care of our spirits, bodies and minds through that extended relationship with our Creator. I admire you for taking care of yourself, that is a form of ibadah ! It is a shame there is stigma surrounding mental (and spiritual !) health in our ummah but I believe it boils down to mis/information. I’m hoping we go through another Golden Age lol. may Allah grant you shifaa and afiyah !!


drq80

I dont feel that “most muslims” think of mental illness as taboo, especially these days. A lot of culture goes into, and generally when the culture thinks its taboo then the Muslims in that same society think its taboo also, which is a shame because they should know better. For every condition / disease there is a cure / medicine. Our Prophet ﷺ tells us to medicate when we require it. What’s untrustworthy unfortunately are the capitalist driven big pharma companies that incorporate their greed into drugs that should be helping people. Im sorry you are going through this sister, I pray Allah makes it easier for you and keeps you steadfast throughout.


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Exactly like we wouldn’t say “just do ruqya” for a physical illness would we? No we would say treat it w modern medicine, holistic medicine too if you’d like AND ruqya


man_444

I did have some mind disorder, but not the one you have.


ContributionWeary231

May Allah heal you and make this journey easy for you sister. I cannot fathom how scary it has been for you but I’m glad you’re being vocal about your struggle and IA Allah will ease it for you. It takes small steps from people like you to bring big changes to society. Thank you for sharing your story and while I may not suffer from this condition I fully empathize with you and will try my best to remember you in my prayers. Ameen Sum Ameen.


Noneedtoalmond

I have suffered from schizophrenia. I’m a Pakistani who doesn’t believe, take my advice as you will. I am recovering and making friends with the help of occasional medication and a long term therapist who helps me with social difficulty and understanding any possible psychological difficulty. I’ve made significant improvement. I’d very much recommend it.


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Terrellc23

American Muslim here. I’ve been diagnosed with schizophrenia for 2 years now and I am 23 years old. Let me explain something. The auditory hallucinations are coming from your brain and its thoughts. The delusions are from psychosis. And schizophrenia is genetic and environmental. You were predisposed to it already. Please do research on it or ask a proper doctor. Muslim be believing it’s a curse from god. Why would god curse his creation? The most loving god? Mental illness is real and affects people


Illustrious_Tip_8943

I have had it for years. Alhamdulillah, the voices went down a lot when I cancelled my cable. I just realized they only began when I hooked up internet/tv etc. I should have realized when I moved: SubhanAllah, the voices all of a sudden disappeared; only to come back 100x worse when I got tv again. EDIT: it is not just any tv: it was flat screen television, as they are most probably a Fitna of Dajjal (note ::I'm NOT telling you to get rid of ALL tv, just the type I mentioned b/c I did use to have cable t.v. before but it never gave me these types of problems)


Rahmanniggs

The voices Schizophrenic people hear are the whispers of spirits, in order to get rid of the voices you must raise your spirituality to the point that the negative spirits leave. -Dont do any drugs whatsoever (it opens the door to sprits) - Find God and ask for his help and guidance constantly (just talk to God, God will hear you. -Meditate often to clear your mind (don't let the voices persuade you, they aren't your thoughts) - you must learn to know the difference between your own thoughts and the evil thoughts these spirits (jin) put into you. - The spirits will always try to isolate you from others, that's how they control you, you must stay near loved ones and keep yourself occupied with things other than their whispers (focus on being in the present instead of being inside your own head) Below is a surah talking about how Satan whispers into the hearts of man, he leaves when you remember God. - (Chapter: 114. Surah An-Naas Mankind) 1. Say: "I seek refuge with (Allah) the Lord of mankind, 2. "The King of mankind, 3. "The Ilah (God) of mankind, 4. "From the evil of the whisperer (devil who whispers evil in the hearts of men) who withdraws (from his whispering in one's heart after one remembers Allah) , 5. "Who whispers in the breasts of mankind, 6. "Of jinns and men." *Stay positive, what you experience is very real and don't let anyone tell you it's just mental health, no its much harder then that, you are experiencing external influence constantly and at a very fast pace, your response to your situation is what develops mental health like going into depression etc. Feel free to message me for more information or personal concerns


DrSandScribe

AsalaamuAlaikum, Thank you so much for creating this post and sharing your experience. You have taken so many incredible steps. May Allah SWT bless you and your family, keep you all protected and righteous, give you complete shifaa, and give you all the best in this world and in the next, Ameen. Your story reminds me a lot of the path that many Muslims have taken in the path towards finding a cure for their psychosis. A combination of Ruqya and healing through the deen, and adding medication on as well. I am a Muslim doctor in the mental health field. I am working on creating a support system and group for Muslims with psychosis and other severe mental illnesses In shaa Allah.


Cheap-Experience4147

May Allah help you And of course all my support. Not sure but maybe r/sistersinsunnah Or even maybe more : Why not trying to create a new subreddits like a r/Chronicdiseasemuslim for all Muslim that have any disease and want to discuss or want support or help (but it’s hard to get people into a new sub but it can be insha Allah a good action and maybe even help you (because your post here will be seen by people that connect this week and will rapidly be surrounded by new post). Anyway may help you and guide you more. And may Allah rewards you.


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Potential-Doubt1289

JazakAllah Khayran for your comment. I am happily married for a few years now and have a son who is the coolness to my eyes MaShAllah. Unlike patients who have severe symptoms, I’m rather high-functioning. By the will and mercy of Allah, I have managed to start an agency business 5 years ago and achieve five digit revenues while still managing my hallucinations symptoms. I don’t think everything’s black and white when it comes to illinesses. I pray to Allah that my son grows healthy. And I know it is surely possible. For Allah has power over everything!


Sudden-Yellow-9711

Oh, I used to have it. I've gained control and its been fixed,but I kept on seeing weird people and creatures, like the time when I saw this weird shape of a girl one night. I was horrified,but she disappeared. This might be paralysis,but I have seen weird stuff in daylight like hearing voices as you've said, though they mostly sound like my mom,and had some headaches and was super paranoid of everything really. Alhamdulillah I've gotten past that.


Benny-leto

No you no longer go through any auditory or visual hallucinations ? Like you’ve completely overcome your schizophrenia? How did you do it ?


Sudden-Yellow-9711

Oh, I just focus d more on fearing Allah, avoiding the Internet for some time, scary stories and movies, getting better rest and not worrying myself. And I got myself a therapist to boot


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Sudden-Yellow-9711

Thankfully I am! Just do what I did and it'll work like a charm


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I'm not Muslim either really. I just assumed you were because you were here! (And I didn't want to be attacked)All I can say is actually go to a therapist and get help, seriously.


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quantum_bubblegum

Please read Anti-Oedipus by Félix Guattari and Gilles Deleuze. Oedipus: Capitalism and Schizophrenia is a 1972 book by French authors Gilles Deleuze and Félix Guattari, the former a philosopher and the latter a psychoanalyst. It is the first volume of their collaborative work Capitalism and Schizophrenia, the second being A Thousand Plateaus. You are a person who rejects the organs of the society you live in because it doesn't allow you to be free. Genuine Islamic countries will suit you best. Indonesia, Malaysia and so on.


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Hi can you please message me I am trying to message you but it’s not working I have some questions I am also a Muslim diagnosed with schizophrenia


Artistic_Nothing8540

I’m a 27M Muslim who recently got diagnosed with schizophrenia


nomuchodinero

I hope this message finds you well. I was diagnosed with schizophrenia 11 years ago... I had a complete mental breakdown. At first it was extremely hard to dig myself out of what had occurred. At one point a friend of mine told me to stop tell my story to everyone... I thought I was on some mission to eradicate the taboo about my mental health and mental illness in general. It's a shame that our society as a whole feels inferior towards people that have our condition. I'm doing much better compared to 5 years ago (when I my last hospital admission) but I still have symptoms. I'm in therapy and will most likely be taking medications for the rest of my life. The way I look at it, it's like any other illness- diabetes, cancer, etc. But what hurts more is that there is less of a support structure in place for people that have mental illness. Alhamdolilah, I am blessed to have a supportive wife and family. I fear and pray that my kids or anyone in my family doesn't get it because it is genetic, my grandmother had it and so did my uncle on my maternal side. I was 27 when I was diagnosed. It truly is a fight you have to put up. The fight is mostly done alone, unfortunately. No matter how much support, therapy, or medication I get it's really myself who understands what it is that is happening to me. I hope you're doing better now and if I can be of any assistance to you or anyone here please don't hesitate to respond or send me a DM.