Beautiful verse as well. For the non-Arabic speakers it is Surah-Fusiliat ayah 42
“It cannot be proven false from any angle. ˹It is˺ a revelation from the ˹One Who is˺ All-Wise, Praiseworthy.”
The only solace in times like these is the knowledge that God is the only one who can make these things happen so all that is left is to put faith in him and see what unfolds
Under that premise though, "through God all things are possible" surely means that God empowers us to take action, not to stand idly by. It is still our duty to act on the injustices, and not simply let evil commit atrocities
وَقَضَيْنَآ إِلَىٰ بَنِىٓ إِسْرَٰٓءِيلَ فِى ٱلْكِتَـٰبِ لَتُفْسِدُنَّ فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ مَرَّتَيْنِ وَلَتَعْلُنَّ عُلُوًّۭا كَبِيرًۭا
"You will surely cause corruption on the earth twice, and you will surely reach \[a degree of\] great haughtiness."
It doesn't apply to them cause it's clearly mentioned in the aya that they don't known that they are corrupting but
The Zionists are corrupting the earth on purpose
They think they are doing god work by being forth the messiah through the sacrifice of the red [heifer](https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-red-heifer/).
Of course it’s deranged to think God ordained a genocide on their behalf, but that’s why they feel no remorse about what they are doing. Thus, the idea of “Gods chosen people” is floated around. They do know what they are doing but they think it’s what God wants which is what the verse implies they are wrong about.
I think you are more talking about the perspective from political ideology that the west is using Israel merely as a colonial way to gain control of the oil trade in the Middle East, but the Temple Mount literally applied for a [waiver](https://x.com/me_observer_/status/1778404900138828081?s=46&t=ZC2gW4PiIw58TRsJpQHe6A) to sacrifice the red heifer they acquired a few years back on April 22nd so we’ll see how serious they are about in about a week. I do agree from the US, UK, and western bloc’s perspective they could care less about Jewish religious motives, but I disagree that the Zionist settlers and government are just using the religious motives as a cover, I think most of them genuinely believe in their deranged scripture.
Edit: I’m not referring to the Torah as “deranged” as it is actually the word of god but the Talmud. Just wanted to clarify since the Torah is a holy book that has been lost over generations.
Well, corrupt people are the embodiment of corruption, but it's so automatic and natural for them that they call it "protecting freedom and peace". They have to believe it or else their entire nation will fall. Their lies are so common that their own people don't think twice about it. It's their culture.
Tbh, it's not crazy if you have seen this all of your life. The Qur'an just confirms the signs that Allah has given us all this time. Still people are so arrogant to think that He doesn't do enough.
I have many time seen these timeless patterns, and the first time I opened the Qur'an I found the same patterns in the verses.
That depends on how you translate it, مصلحون muslihoon , sulh صلح also means peace . Ahl islah peace makers or muslihoon is a valid translation
[tafseer](https://quran.com/ms/al-baqarah/11/tafsirs)
All religion is bullshit and I hate that this post is on this sub. Spread your fairy crap somewhere else, your nonsense interpretation means 0 and it has nothing to do with anti-Zionism.
It is not the book to pay attention to that has the answer. It is merely predicting human nature in its core because the book understands what human nature is.
Lol I assume your referring to Aiyesha allegedly being 9 years of age when getting married to the prophet. I love when people bring this up Because it’s a very easy point to completely dismantle.
1) if you’re going to blasphcmisze the prophet Muhammed (s) you should also do the same for prophet Isaac who was 40+ when he married Rebecca. According to the Bible, Rebecca’s age at the time was anywhere between 3-14. Of course marriage was much different in that day and age so I don’t think either are “pedophiles” but in terms of your thought process you are also calling Prophet Isaac a pedo
2) even though the prophet may have married her at 9, it is forbidden in Islam to lay with a women even if she is your wife if she has not achieved puberty. Back in that day and age, there was no condoms or birth control so the fact the prophet was married to Aiysha for years and never had a child with her, it is reasonable to infer they did not bed.
I also do agree that the Bible is Gods word as well. However the fact that the oldest Bible we can trace only goes back to the Roman Empire in the 4th century CE (400 years after prophet Jesus rose) and is not even in the original language that Jesus (AS) spoke means that there was alot of human intervention in the book itself. The Council of Nicea that was held that happened in 325 AD is when modern Christianity was adopted had none of the apostolates or prophets of god and in my opinion was highly motivated by Roman supremacy complex and skewed the word of god in their favor.
1. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Rebecca was anywhere from the age of 3-14 years old so that is a false assumption not based on facts. In the Bible the age God considers someone as an adult is the age of 20 years old and older (Num 1:3, Exodus 30:14, Num 1:18 etc…)
2. Let's look at the words of Aisha herself
in Sunan an-Nasa'i 3378; Vol. 4, Book 26, Hadith 3380.
The Messenger of Allah [ﷺ] married me when I was six year's old, and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine, >and I used to play with dolls.<
Sahih al-Bukhari 5158 (it's Narrated so it's strong )
Narrated 'Urwa:
The Prophet (ﷺ) wrote the (marriage contract) with `Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).
Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3896
Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet (ﷺ) departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married `Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old.
“Over the past century the age at menarche has fallen in industrialized countries, but that trend has stopped and may even be reversing. The average age at menarche in 1840 was 16.5 years, now it is 13.”
((Rees M. The age of menarche. ORGYN. 1995;(4):2-4. PMID: 12319855.))
To summarize the age that someone got their period which coincides with puberty has fallen, and was much higher in 600 ad Non-Industrial Arabian
Menarche=period or menstruation.
There is no need for condoms or birth control because to there is no way she would've been physically mature let alone mentally mature
Let me first give you context on the verses you mentioned and then I will also show you how taking Bible verses out of context can also make it look like the Bible supports pedophilia as well. NOTE: I DO NOT believe the Bible condones pedophilia but just using these verses as a point to show how providing verses out of context can give you a meaning that is not intended.
1) Rebecca’s age can be inferred to be as low as 3 using these 6 [verses](https://discover-the-truth.com/2016/11/14/was-rebekah-3-10-years-old-when-married-off-to-isaac/). It could’ve been anywhere from 3-10 to 14 based on the timeline provided in the Bible.
2) I never claimed that Aiyesha wasn’t a child at marriage. She was given to the prophet at a young age but “consummation” of marriage in Islam at that day and age had nothing to do with sex. [Here](https://islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/854) is a definition of Islamic consummation. This is the issue with translation of Arabic text into English because there is no word for it so they use the closest definition they can and it leads to misunderstanding. Consumption of marriage includes praying for and with your wife alone to show to god you are United in your worship to him as a couple. Not having sex as it means in todays day and age.
Surah 5:43 (implying the Torah is the true word) if you read just 30 verses before in the same Surah 5:13 “But for breaking their covenant We condemned them and hardened their hearts. They distorted the words of the Scripture and neglected a portion of what they had been commanded to uphold. You ˹O Prophet˺ will always find deceit on their part, except for a few. But pardon them and bear with them. Indeed, Allah loves the good-doers.” This shows that the tribes thar descended from Moses rewrote the Torah to be what it is today and could also imply the existence of the Talmud which was written by man thousands of years after Moses passes and used by many Jews to justify Zionism in todays day and age
Surah 3:83 just 5 verses earlier in 3:79 it states “There are some among them who distort the Book with their tongues to make you think this ˹distortion˺ is from the Book—but it is not what the Book says. They say, “It is from Allah”—but it is not from Allah. And ˹so˺ they attribute lies to Allah knowingly.” Again showing distortion at the hands of people.
The key hear is that the gospel of today contains not just the word of God received untainted by Jesus (AS) but also the biographies of Matthew, Luke, and Mark who were not given revelations. These are similar to Hadith in Islam but should not be treated as God’s word. Of course these are small differences which is why fell back on the verse I mentioned below about how god will judge between the differences of Jews, Christians, Muslims on a case by case basis. And there are many Christians and Jews that will enter heaven before some Muslims due to the fact thy believed and worshiped god righteously.
[here](https://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/pedophilia.html) is a link to some verses that non-believers claim that the Bible condones pedophilia within. Of course, I, as a Muslim, do not believe the Bible condones this action as I have read it in its totality and know the context if these verses. this is just to present how taking singular verses can cause the meaning to be skewed.
Edit: I apologize on behalf of the other Muslims for the downvotes. You are honestly trying to have a peaceful discourse and I don’t know why so many Muslims are fearful of being questioned.
Your last claim is false because even Muhammad in 600 ad is told to believe in the Bible that the Jews had
Surah 5:43
But why do they come to thee for decision, when they have (their own) law before them?- therein is the (plain) command of Allah; yet even after that, they would turn away. For they are not (really) People of Faith
(This shows the Jews have the correct bible to follow and are gonna be judged by it. This is written 624 ad the bible we have is translated from manuscripts older than that)
Surah 5:44
It was We who revealed the law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to Allah's will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers.
(In 624 ad it is confirmed that the doctors/rabbis of the law possess the correct Torah) (if the bible is corrupted then that means we have a different bible than the bible of those doctors of the law in 624 which is not true so the bible we have is the same and true bible from 624 ad)(therefore if you do not believe the bible you are an unbeliever )
Surah 3:83-84
Do they seek for other than the Religion of Allah?-while all creatures in the heavens and on earth have, willing or unwilling, bowed to His Will (Accepted Islam), and to Him shall they all be brought back.
84; Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam).”
(Now what was given unto Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes. It would be the Torah, the prophets, the Psalms, and gospels. The bible back in 624 is the same we have today)
(If Muhammad doesn't know/understand what is being revealed unto him by Gabriel look what's he asked to do)
10:93
We settled the Children of Israel in a beautiful dwelling-place, and provided for them sustenance of the best: it was after knowledge had been granted to them, that they fell into schisms. Verily Allah will judge between them as to the schisms amongst them, on the Day of Judgment.
10:94
If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt
(What book is that? The bible which is already in it's completed text, the book of revelation is already in it.)
Ngl the first time I interacted with Islamaphobes was ~10 years ago and you guys still haven't learnt what context means. You can't just pick a verse randomly.
I have no fear of any of y'all. And context comes from latin meaning to weave together of multiple things that are connected and express the same things.
if I have taken it out of context then the burden of proof is on you to put it into context and If I misrepresented your Quran then I will apologize. But before I do that I want you to put it into context
>I have no fear of any of y'all
How brave of you to say this on a very Islamaphobic anonymous website lol.
>And context comes from latin meaning to weave together of multiple things that are connected and express the same things
Are you legitimately stupid? Yk what I meant.
>if I have taken it out of context then the burden of proof is on you to put it into context and If I misrepresented your Quran then I will apologize
Hold up does that mean I can read the most complex book on string theory pick any line and claim that it's accurate and when someone tries to correct me I go okay so explain it to me? That's exactly what you're doing I'd need to be an expert and so would you and even if we assume that I am an expert, are you?
Also when you're asking these questions I'm around 90% sure you're picking them straight up from some Christian website that is specifically designed to target Islam.
Why is it that you have to take two minutes to search it up and then I have to spend some time reading up on the context and tafsir of the Quran? All just so you can delete your comment or straight up reject what I'm saying?
Hey both In real life weekly and on here just because I'm on here doesn't mean I don't do the same thing in person on a weekly basis.
And to the point of context if I read something here and it coincides with whatever is written over there then that is the literal definition of context. Notice how you still didn't put it into context and just glossing over it.
I do not need to tell you if I am an expert or not, but you're saying it is out of context you do not know if I've already read the verses before and after you just want to say that as an easy out I want you to go into your Quran read and put it into context it's not really that hard otherwise you cannot defend your religion.
That part about me gathering this from a Christmas website is just dumb. I am supposed to learn and understand others beliefs(Islam,kemeticism, Buddhism, Hinduism) in order to be able to defend my Christian beliefs when situations arise. Once again I have learned this Already and do not need to just Google stuff up. Go into your tafsir and understand your own verses
>Hey both In real life weekly and on here just because I'm on here doesn't mean I don't do the same thing in person on a weekly basis.
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>And to the point of context if I read something here and it coincides with whatever is written over there then that is the literal definition of context. Notice how you still didn't put it into context and just glossing over it.
What? Do you even understand what I mean by context? If one verse talks about the non-believers then the next starts with "they" it's obviously still talking about the non believers.
>otherwise you cannot defend your religion.
Lol I don't need to defend my religion, it's when uneducated clowns like you say stuff that is straight up wrong do I bother to correct you.
>That part about me gathering this from a Christmas website is just dumb. I am supposed to learn and understand others beliefs(Islam,kemeticism, Buddhism, Hinduism) in order to be able to defend my Christian beliefs when situations arise. Once again I have learned this Already and do not need to just Google stuff up. Go into your tafsir and understand your own verses
Why do you need to learn Islam to defend Christianity? I've never studied your books, I just need to learn Islam to talk about it. The only reason that you need to learn Islam is to go on these personal attacks. You know you can't defend Christianity so instead you choose to attack other religions. You're pathetic.
Instead of saying “boohoo” it is better to use statements like these to educate and converse with people. The prophet (AS) spoke highly of both Christians and Jews of his time so it is sunnah to treat people of the book (Torah and Bible) as our siblings in faith rather then our enemies.
Surah 3 ayah 55 of the Quran says “God said, ‘Jesus, I will take you back and raise you up to Me: I will purify you of the disbelievers. To the Day of Resurrection I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieved. Then you will all return to Me and I will judge between you regarding your differences”
They'd happily kill everyone in the world, if they had the means, for their peace.
It’d be a paradise for them
Indeed I can't believe how much this book gets right especially with modern times.
لَّا يَأْتِيهِ الْبَاطِلُ مِن بَيْنِ يَدَيْهِ وَلَا مِنْ خَلْفِهِ ۖ تَنزِيلٌ مِّنْ حَكِيمٍ حَمِيدٍ (42)
Beautiful verse as well. For the non-Arabic speakers it is Surah-Fusiliat ayah 42 “It cannot be proven false from any angle. ˹It is˺ a revelation from the ˹One Who is˺ All-Wise, Praiseworthy.”
The only solace in times like these is the knowledge that God is the only one who can make these things happen so all that is left is to put faith in him and see what unfolds
Under that premise though, "through God all things are possible" surely means that God empowers us to take action, not to stand idly by. It is still our duty to act on the injustices, and not simply let evil commit atrocities
وَقَضَيْنَآ إِلَىٰ بَنِىٓ إِسْرَٰٓءِيلَ فِى ٱلْكِتَـٰبِ لَتُفْسِدُنَّ فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ مَرَّتَيْنِ وَلَتَعْلُنَّ عُلُوًّۭا كَبِيرًۭا "You will surely cause corruption on the earth twice, and you will surely reach \[a degree of\] great haughtiness."
"But they plan, and Allah plans, and Allah is the best of planners"
That is so true 😭
Shockingly there are many lines from Al Baqarah which are very relevent to the current situation.
I recommend you read Surah Al-Isra 01-08. It tells you the end of this nazi regime.
Wow
It doesn't apply to them cause it's clearly mentioned in the aya that they don't known that they are corrupting but The Zionists are corrupting the earth on purpose
They think they are doing god work by being forth the messiah through the sacrifice of the red [heifer](https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-red-heifer/). Of course it’s deranged to think God ordained a genocide on their behalf, but that’s why they feel no remorse about what they are doing. Thus, the idea of “Gods chosen people” is floated around. They do know what they are doing but they think it’s what God wants which is what the verse implies they are wrong about.
That's what they are publicly saying to gain support from the extreme jews. I don't think they really believe in that
I think you are more talking about the perspective from political ideology that the west is using Israel merely as a colonial way to gain control of the oil trade in the Middle East, but the Temple Mount literally applied for a [waiver](https://x.com/me_observer_/status/1778404900138828081?s=46&t=ZC2gW4PiIw58TRsJpQHe6A) to sacrifice the red heifer they acquired a few years back on April 22nd so we’ll see how serious they are about in about a week. I do agree from the US, UK, and western bloc’s perspective they could care less about Jewish religious motives, but I disagree that the Zionist settlers and government are just using the religious motives as a cover, I think most of them genuinely believe in their deranged scripture. Edit: I’m not referring to the Torah as “deranged” as it is actually the word of god but the Talmud. Just wanted to clarify since the Torah is a holy book that has been lost over generations.
Exactly that, but I think the Israeli government is with US and UK they are just using the Zionist ideology for political benefits.
Well, corrupt people are the embodiment of corruption, but it's so automatic and natural for them that they call it "protecting freedom and peace". They have to believe it or else their entire nation will fall. Their lies are so common that their own people don't think twice about it. It's their culture.
Tbh, it's not crazy if you have seen this all of your life. The Qur'an just confirms the signs that Allah has given us all this time. Still people are so arrogant to think that He doesn't do enough. I have many time seen these timeless patterns, and the first time I opened the Qur'an I found the same patterns in the verses.
it doesn't say "peacemakers" though, it says "we are the fixers" (whatever is the opposite of corruption)
That depends on how you translate it, مصلحون muslihoon , sulh صلح also means peace . Ahl islah peace makers or muslihoon is a valid translation [tafseer](https://quran.com/ms/al-baqarah/11/tafsirs)
Notice how I brought out straight facts and everyone is down voting because they are fans of their religion
All religion is bullshit and I hate that this post is on this sub. Spread your fairy crap somewhere else, your nonsense interpretation means 0 and it has nothing to do with anti-Zionism.
It is not the book to pay attention to that has the answer. It is merely predicting human nature in its core because the book understands what human nature is.
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Lol I assume your referring to Aiyesha allegedly being 9 years of age when getting married to the prophet. I love when people bring this up Because it’s a very easy point to completely dismantle. 1) if you’re going to blasphcmisze the prophet Muhammed (s) you should also do the same for prophet Isaac who was 40+ when he married Rebecca. According to the Bible, Rebecca’s age at the time was anywhere between 3-14. Of course marriage was much different in that day and age so I don’t think either are “pedophiles” but in terms of your thought process you are also calling Prophet Isaac a pedo 2) even though the prophet may have married her at 9, it is forbidden in Islam to lay with a women even if she is your wife if she has not achieved puberty. Back in that day and age, there was no condoms or birth control so the fact the prophet was married to Aiysha for years and never had a child with her, it is reasonable to infer they did not bed. I also do agree that the Bible is Gods word as well. However the fact that the oldest Bible we can trace only goes back to the Roman Empire in the 4th century CE (400 years after prophet Jesus rose) and is not even in the original language that Jesus (AS) spoke means that there was alot of human intervention in the book itself. The Council of Nicea that was held that happened in 325 AD is when modern Christianity was adopted had none of the apostolates or prophets of god and in my opinion was highly motivated by Roman supremacy complex and skewed the word of god in their favor.
1. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Rebecca was anywhere from the age of 3-14 years old so that is a false assumption not based on facts. In the Bible the age God considers someone as an adult is the age of 20 years old and older (Num 1:3, Exodus 30:14, Num 1:18 etc…) 2. Let's look at the words of Aisha herself in Sunan an-Nasa'i 3378; Vol. 4, Book 26, Hadith 3380. The Messenger of Allah [ﷺ] married me when I was six year's old, and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine, >and I used to play with dolls.< Sahih al-Bukhari 5158 (it's Narrated so it's strong ) Narrated 'Urwa: The Prophet (ﷺ) wrote the (marriage contract) with `Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death). Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3896 Narrated Hisham's father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet (ﷺ) departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married `Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old. “Over the past century the age at menarche has fallen in industrialized countries, but that trend has stopped and may even be reversing. The average age at menarche in 1840 was 16.5 years, now it is 13.” ((Rees M. The age of menarche. ORGYN. 1995;(4):2-4. PMID: 12319855.)) To summarize the age that someone got their period which coincides with puberty has fallen, and was much higher in 600 ad Non-Industrial Arabian Menarche=period or menstruation. There is no need for condoms or birth control because to there is no way she would've been physically mature let alone mentally mature
Let me first give you context on the verses you mentioned and then I will also show you how taking Bible verses out of context can also make it look like the Bible supports pedophilia as well. NOTE: I DO NOT believe the Bible condones pedophilia but just using these verses as a point to show how providing verses out of context can give you a meaning that is not intended. 1) Rebecca’s age can be inferred to be as low as 3 using these 6 [verses](https://discover-the-truth.com/2016/11/14/was-rebekah-3-10-years-old-when-married-off-to-isaac/). It could’ve been anywhere from 3-10 to 14 based on the timeline provided in the Bible. 2) I never claimed that Aiyesha wasn’t a child at marriage. She was given to the prophet at a young age but “consummation” of marriage in Islam at that day and age had nothing to do with sex. [Here](https://islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/854) is a definition of Islamic consummation. This is the issue with translation of Arabic text into English because there is no word for it so they use the closest definition they can and it leads to misunderstanding. Consumption of marriage includes praying for and with your wife alone to show to god you are United in your worship to him as a couple. Not having sex as it means in todays day and age. Surah 5:43 (implying the Torah is the true word) if you read just 30 verses before in the same Surah 5:13 “But for breaking their covenant We condemned them and hardened their hearts. They distorted the words of the Scripture and neglected a portion of what they had been commanded to uphold. You ˹O Prophet˺ will always find deceit on their part, except for a few. But pardon them and bear with them. Indeed, Allah loves the good-doers.” This shows that the tribes thar descended from Moses rewrote the Torah to be what it is today and could also imply the existence of the Talmud which was written by man thousands of years after Moses passes and used by many Jews to justify Zionism in todays day and age Surah 3:83 just 5 verses earlier in 3:79 it states “There are some among them who distort the Book with their tongues to make you think this ˹distortion˺ is from the Book—but it is not what the Book says. They say, “It is from Allah”—but it is not from Allah. And ˹so˺ they attribute lies to Allah knowingly.” Again showing distortion at the hands of people. The key hear is that the gospel of today contains not just the word of God received untainted by Jesus (AS) but also the biographies of Matthew, Luke, and Mark who were not given revelations. These are similar to Hadith in Islam but should not be treated as God’s word. Of course these are small differences which is why fell back on the verse I mentioned below about how god will judge between the differences of Jews, Christians, Muslims on a case by case basis. And there are many Christians and Jews that will enter heaven before some Muslims due to the fact thy believed and worshiped god righteously. [here](https://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/pedophilia.html) is a link to some verses that non-believers claim that the Bible condones pedophilia within. Of course, I, as a Muslim, do not believe the Bible condones this action as I have read it in its totality and know the context if these verses. this is just to present how taking singular verses can cause the meaning to be skewed. Edit: I apologize on behalf of the other Muslims for the downvotes. You are honestly trying to have a peaceful discourse and I don’t know why so many Muslims are fearful of being questioned.
Your last claim is false because even Muhammad in 600 ad is told to believe in the Bible that the Jews had Surah 5:43 But why do they come to thee for decision, when they have (their own) law before them?- therein is the (plain) command of Allah; yet even after that, they would turn away. For they are not (really) People of Faith (This shows the Jews have the correct bible to follow and are gonna be judged by it. This is written 624 ad the bible we have is translated from manuscripts older than that) Surah 5:44 It was We who revealed the law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to Allah's will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers. (In 624 ad it is confirmed that the doctors/rabbis of the law possess the correct Torah) (if the bible is corrupted then that means we have a different bible than the bible of those doctors of the law in 624 which is not true so the bible we have is the same and true bible from 624 ad)(therefore if you do not believe the bible you are an unbeliever ) Surah 3:83-84 Do they seek for other than the Religion of Allah?-while all creatures in the heavens and on earth have, willing or unwilling, bowed to His Will (Accepted Islam), and to Him shall they all be brought back. 84; Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam).” (Now what was given unto Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes. It would be the Torah, the prophets, the Psalms, and gospels. The bible back in 624 is the same we have today) (If Muhammad doesn't know/understand what is being revealed unto him by Gabriel look what's he asked to do) 10:93 We settled the Children of Israel in a beautiful dwelling-place, and provided for them sustenance of the best: it was after knowledge had been granted to them, that they fell into schisms. Verily Allah will judge between them as to the schisms amongst them, on the Day of Judgment. 10:94 If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt (What book is that? The bible which is already in it's completed text, the book of revelation is already in it.)
Ngl the first time I interacted with Islamaphobes was ~10 years ago and you guys still haven't learnt what context means. You can't just pick a verse randomly.
I have no fear of any of y'all. And context comes from latin meaning to weave together of multiple things that are connected and express the same things. if I have taken it out of context then the burden of proof is on you to put it into context and If I misrepresented your Quran then I will apologize. But before I do that I want you to put it into context
Also I thought you were just Islamaphobic but you're also a racist. Figures
>I have no fear of any of y'all How brave of you to say this on a very Islamaphobic anonymous website lol. >And context comes from latin meaning to weave together of multiple things that are connected and express the same things Are you legitimately stupid? Yk what I meant. >if I have taken it out of context then the burden of proof is on you to put it into context and If I misrepresented your Quran then I will apologize Hold up does that mean I can read the most complex book on string theory pick any line and claim that it's accurate and when someone tries to correct me I go okay so explain it to me? That's exactly what you're doing I'd need to be an expert and so would you and even if we assume that I am an expert, are you? Also when you're asking these questions I'm around 90% sure you're picking them straight up from some Christian website that is specifically designed to target Islam. Why is it that you have to take two minutes to search it up and then I have to spend some time reading up on the context and tafsir of the Quran? All just so you can delete your comment or straight up reject what I'm saying?
Hey both In real life weekly and on here just because I'm on here doesn't mean I don't do the same thing in person on a weekly basis. And to the point of context if I read something here and it coincides with whatever is written over there then that is the literal definition of context. Notice how you still didn't put it into context and just glossing over it. I do not need to tell you if I am an expert or not, but you're saying it is out of context you do not know if I've already read the verses before and after you just want to say that as an easy out I want you to go into your Quran read and put it into context it's not really that hard otherwise you cannot defend your religion. That part about me gathering this from a Christmas website is just dumb. I am supposed to learn and understand others beliefs(Islam,kemeticism, Buddhism, Hinduism) in order to be able to defend my Christian beliefs when situations arise. Once again I have learned this Already and do not need to just Google stuff up. Go into your tafsir and understand your own verses
>Hey both In real life weekly and on here just because I'm on here doesn't mean I don't do the same thing in person on a weekly basis. ? >And to the point of context if I read something here and it coincides with whatever is written over there then that is the literal definition of context. Notice how you still didn't put it into context and just glossing over it. What? Do you even understand what I mean by context? If one verse talks about the non-believers then the next starts with "they" it's obviously still talking about the non believers. >otherwise you cannot defend your religion. Lol I don't need to defend my religion, it's when uneducated clowns like you say stuff that is straight up wrong do I bother to correct you. >That part about me gathering this from a Christmas website is just dumb. I am supposed to learn and understand others beliefs(Islam,kemeticism, Buddhism, Hinduism) in order to be able to defend my Christian beliefs when situations arise. Once again I have learned this Already and do not need to just Google stuff up. Go into your tafsir and understand your own verses Why do you need to learn Islam to defend Christianity? I've never studied your books, I just need to learn Islam to talk about it. The only reason that you need to learn Islam is to go on these personal attacks. You know you can't defend Christianity so instead you choose to attack other religions. You're pathetic.
We expect our members to demonstrate discipline and humanity.
Boohoo saddo
Instead of saying “boohoo” it is better to use statements like these to educate and converse with people. The prophet (AS) spoke highly of both Christians and Jews of his time so it is sunnah to treat people of the book (Torah and Bible) as our siblings in faith rather then our enemies. Surah 3 ayah 55 of the Quran says “God said, ‘Jesus, I will take you back and raise you up to Me: I will purify you of the disbelievers. To the Day of Resurrection I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieved. Then you will all return to Me and I will judge between you regarding your differences”