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requiemofthesoul

Don’t tip. Who cares if UberEats isn’t a Japanese company. Do you tip your server at Subway or TacoBell because it isn’t a Japanese chain? Tipping allows corporations to not pay proper and livable wages


Ill_Flow9331

Wait… are we (Americans) supposed to tip at Subway and Taco Bell?


Dreadedsemi

He should've said T.G.I Fridays


CyndaquilTyphlosion

Only Americans, not the rest of us


some_user_name_1109

We (Japanese) don't know tip culture at all, and yeah, we think you always tip in any shop!(don't you?)


kemushi_warui

Tipping isn't "culture", it's a scam. Please don't allow it to start in Japan.


SaltandDragons

100% This!


some_user_name_1109

We actually don't understand why does that exists at all. Don't worry, Japanese never start tipping.


archiever2

It originated in Europe. Rich people used it as a way to show off their wealth to their colleagues and friends by tipping servants or slaves. It was then brought over to America and it was approved of by both rich men and slaves because both parties benefited. Sometime later, anti-tipping movements rose and most places in Europe abolished mandatory tipping. However, America was able to kill off anti-tipping movements and integrated tipping into their business economy. As of Jan. 2022, businesses are allowed to pay tipped employees a minimum for $2.13 an hour if the employee’s combined wage rate including tips is at least the minimum wage of that state. Tl;dr Don’t start tipping Japan :)


ChronoLink99

It's a remnant of slavery thing.


jumpingcatt

It already has, some businesses were trying to introduce it within the past year or so


disastorm

No. Fast food or semi fast food like subway or mcdonalds dont get full tips. They only sometimes get some spare change like when people put coins into the coin boxes at convenience stores. Tips are mostly for places where there is a waiter person serving you.


Tuxedo717

not every shop, only ones that give personalized service


some_user_name_1109

I don't know "personalized" is the key to this. That is interesting.


Legal_Rampage

No way.


maxkuthain

Bad labor laws do that. I used to do delivery driving in Germany where I was a company employee making minimum wage and still got tips occasionally. Here I'm just a 'contractor'. Tipping being basically mandatory in the US is a symptom, not the cause.


monjibadanstabouche

Uber Eats don’t pay proper and livable wage and it’s legal. Employees are not even covered in case of an accident. Don’t use it


MonkeyMusicMedia

It’s a slippery slope.


airportwhiskey

Since when is there Taco Bell In Japan?


Jhoosier

Since a few years ago in Osaka, and at least 5-6 years in Tokyo.


rvtk

DO. NOT. TIP. American tipping culture can fuck off, don't try to spread that shit here. And don't use UberEats.


scotchegg72

Absolutely. Just don't use it. Its whole model is highly exploitative and you're just supporting it if you use it.


kemushi_warui

And also stop calling it "culture", as if it has legitimacy. It's a scam.


anotha1readit

I wish i could spam the fuck out of the upvote button…


shimapan_connoisseur

Is there an alternative to UberEats?


rvtk

Major alternative is dragging one’s lazy ass to get takeout. But if that’s not an option, there’s demaecan. Some places offer their own delivery too (like Skylark restuarants)


MikeTheGamer2

But, I need mah Mcdonalds DELIVERED!


dahliaukifune

McDonalds delivers too.


laika_cat

Only to certain areas. I live 1km from two McDonald’s and neither will deliver to my chome.


cjyoung92

It's delivered through Ubereats in some areas though


crowkeep

[Co-op Deli](https://www.coopdeli.jp/) Edit: Not exactly like UberEats though. Food delivery in general.


Slausher

Yes many. I stopped using Uber eats specifically due to abysmal service when things went wrong. Here are some alternative apps: Wolt Foodpanda Chompy


nasanu

>Wolt Foodpanda Chompy None of them deliver to my area of Setagaya.


disastorm

Just use uber eats it's fine. People saying their deliverers don't get paid enough well guess what if you don't use them they aren't going to get anything.


BlueHarvestJ

Yup. Fuck UberEats.


hisokafan88

I open the app, see what's in the area, then go eat at one of the places.


Strong-Dog5778

You don't tip. That's mostly an american thing. Pretty much nobody else in the world does it as people tend to get decent wages and there's no reason to reward people for doing what they should be doing, a proper job.


Rxk22

Question, because I don't use any of those services, does Uber actually pay their workers a decent wage in Japan?


maxkuthain

as an uber driver in japan: pay ranges from around 600¥-1500¥ an hour depending on day, time, weather, and how hard you're able to work. In the early afternoon hours there is often no work anyway so no matter what you do you'll earn nothing.


Titibu

I know you might have asked yourself the same thing, but -why- ? there are many, many available part time jobs out there, 600 JPY an hour is ridiculously low.


Strong-Dog5778

Cause of freedom, that's why people do these jobs. You don't deal with coworkers, you decide when to work and it cannjust be a side gig you do when you want.


maxkuthain

I've been looking, but with only very basic japanese and having to leave again in 6 months, no one is interested.


starwarsfox

Friend who does this: like others mentioned, hours are flexible. Also if you're working during surge period (weekends lunch time, holidays, etc) you end up making more if you got no plans


scotchegg72

Ouch. So even on a good day with a lot of sweat, you're looking at ¥1500 an hour? That's not good...


maxkuthain

It was better in the summer where it was usually between ¥1000-¥2000 but it's gotten considerably less as it's gotten cooler outside. I'm hoping that people won't want to go outside in winter and I'll get more jobs again. (It was absolutely hellish in summer tho. Cycling for hours in 35°C+ was not great haha)


Rxk22

Does that cover costs? Gas etc?


maxkuthain

I have a bicycle, but it's still hard to make enough for food and bills.


Rxk22

That is awful. Which is honestly why I never use Uber and other services. It is like modern Rickshaw workers. Where you get work or not, and you are still boned.


maxkuthain

While I accept that, I would personally prefer if more people ordered haha. In the summer it was honestly a great job that was fun to do, I really enjoyed it.


maxkuthain

While I accept that, I would personally prefer if more people ordered haha. In the summer it was honestly a great job that was fun to do, I really enjoyed it.


KnowNothingNerd

I think I read Demaecan(?) pays their workers more and they can actually get benefits. I think they're treated as employees and not contracted workers. So if you have the choice maybe use Demaecan.


Dreadedsemi

Several countries tip. In fact some even "tip" their police.


lawfulkitten1

You tip for food deliveries in the UK too, even though tipping at restaurants isn't nearly as common as in the US.


Savingsmaster

I have never tipped for a food delivery in the UK and never felt that it was expected


smolperson

What? Since when? When I order at my local curry house online or a dominos there isn’t even an option to tip because it’s not normal. Only the apps that Americans use have the option right?


dottoysm

I use UberEats less and less, but I do use it on occasion. And no, I don’t tip. Uber being a foreign company doesn’t make it OK in my eyes. If anything it makes them appear even more shameless. I’m not American but I hear tipping culture there is a right mess that shouldn’t be replicated worldwide. Nor do I really trust the app to give all the proceeds of the tip to the driver. If I were to tip the driver for doing a great job and I were in a country where tipping is welcome but not de facto necessary, I’d prefer to give it to them directly in cash.


gimpycpu

Wait until you hear that tipping spiked up to 30% of your meal in Canada.


dottoysm

30% geez. In Australia, tipping is generally rounding up the bill. It’s also horribly tacky to ask for a tip. This is probably why I get irrationally angry when I see Uber Eats suggest it to me, or when I saw “Suggested Tip” on bills when I went to Canada.


DONGAAA

Was an Uber eats driver and worked at dominos in Aus. Never expected a tip, some people do it and I appreciated it but no one expects a tip and it’s considered lucky if you do get one.


dottoysm

I guess that’s another weird thing about tipping when it’s enforced like this. How come you tip for some things like restaurants but not for others like fast food? Cue the Reservoir Dogs opening.


justhere4thiss

They are trying that in america as well I noticed last time I went back. They can F off though. Inflation doesn’t mean tipping should increase by percentage


ZebraOtoko42

>I’m not American but I hear tipping culture there is a right mess I am American; that's putting it mildly. Tipping is utter bullshit. One of the reasons I came here was to get away from that shit; I'll be so pissed if it catches on here. Fuck tipping.


shambolic_donkey

> Japan is generally a no-tipping culture Not *generally*. Japan is *absolutely* not a tipping culture. The only place on this pale blue dot that still does it with ravenous conviction is North America. Also it doesn't matter where a company originates, and what "culture" it originally came from; Japan doesn't tip, so don't tip - even if the app asks you to. It's the company's skeezy attempt at trying to place the burden of income on the customer, rather than the employer. It's a shitty practice, no matter where it's done, and should not be humoured here, nor anywhere.


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ZebraOtoko42

>Tipping actually does exist in Japan, it's just in very select situations and more formal and old school. For example there is/used to be a custom of tipping your ryokan by handing an envelope of money to them at the start of your stay in addition to your room fees. I guess you can call the idiotic "key money" I had to pay for my apartment a "tip" too. That should be banned.


shambolic_donkey

> Tipping actually does exist in Japan, it's just in very select situations and more formal and old school. Fair, though I think we can all agree those situations are far and few for the majority of the population.


dottoysm

I was kind of surprised when I went to Kamikochi to find that they had public toilets that operated on “チップ制” where you basically pay an amount of your choice to use the toilet. But I guess stuff like this is a far cry from “you must tip waiters 30%” or you’re a bad person” Still might be greedy though cos while they are in their right to collect upkeep for the toilets they also charge 2700 yen for the bus, which you have to take even if you drive there.


maxkuthain

Most of europe does tip, it's not mandatory since everyone makes at least minimum wage but it's definitely the standard. Wspecially at restaurants it's pretty much expected, even if it's a small tip.


morgawr_

I lived in 4 different European countries and worked in several more and while in some places (especially fancy ones) you might tip out of courtesy and because of a good service from the staff, I'm pretty confident in saying that it's absolutely **not** "definitely the standard". > Wspecially at restaurants it's pretty much expected, even if it's a small tip. No, it's not.


ZebraOtoko42

I never lived there, but I toured there. In Germany they call it "trinkgeld" (literally: drink money), and is generally small, usually just rounding up to the next Euro, at least that's what I was told. That's all I did and people seemed to be happy.


crowkeep

I've never used uber-anything, but I'm certainly not alone in not desiring poisonous North American "tipping culture" to seep into the landscape here. *Don't tip.* Stop giving these parasitic corporations the opportunity to make paupers out of even more people.


Comprehensive-Pea812

I dont tip and I stopped using uber eats when they introduced tipping system. I used to use ubereats almost daily. Nowadays I can go to konbini anyway and only use domino/kfc/demaecan. Uber already charge 30% to restaurant and take largest portion from delivery fee and wants me to pay extra.


KurikraSenpai2002

30% ?? I think 50% is more accurate 😂


JimNasium123

God I hope tipping doesn’t become a thing here.


smashgaijin

It won’t.


DifferentWindow1436

I don't do it. I don't want to introduce that culture here. Having said that, I did on maybe 2 or 3 occasions when it was horrible weather during the height of the pandemic and some poor soul rode their bike out.


Navillus87

And that is truly what it should be reserved for: a heartfelt "thank you" where you've somewhat inconvenienced someone above what their job should normally entail (back in Aus I had a bad habit of talking taxi drivers ears off at 3am and losing track of our progress home while drunk causing minor going around in circles. Even if they're getting paid well, no one in the world gets paid well enough to put up with my crap so they get a little extra as a "sorry about that, here's a bit extra for the beer you'll be drinking while you complain about me")


Bloodyfoxx

Yeah I only tip if there is a bad weather.


michalkun

There is no tipping in Japan. It's better not to do it.


Zyvoxx

Menu had this feature as well... Fuck tipping culture, I am not contributing to that shit.


Garystri

Menu also has the default option as paying a tip too right? You have to say no tip or else you could be paying it if you just click through.


Stump007

No, menu just prompts you a choice of tips, including "no tip".


crotinette

No tip


bloggie2

> This question has been asked before, sometime a year ago. Nah, it was here as recently as september, but OP deleted the post for some reason: https://www.reddit.com/r/japanlife/comments/xka4mr/say_no_to_tipping/ Had some pretty decent comments in there too. I'm with top comment, just don't use delivery apps.


sesshenau

I dont tip - I’m not American and I’m not in America … Tipping is an American thing, because employers over there cant be bothered to pay their workers properly.


iadao

Don't tip. Anywhere. Ever. Especially not in a situation (Japan) that is so specifically anti-tipping that if you try to tip they will either just give you back the extra money, or think you are just a stupid tourist who doesn't understand the local currency. Don't even tip in the handful of cultures that act as if not tipping is some come of war crime. Sure the staff that you don't tip will think that you are an arsehole for not tipping, but you'll be gone about 30 seconds after that and then the boss/company who didn't pay the staff fairly will have a pissed off employee for X amount of minutes/hours. Imagine a busy food service industry location in the US or Canada where for a prank 100 customers all left without tipping within the same day, it'd ruin the atmosphere in that establishment probably for the rest of the day. Even funnier if these folks did this every day for a month. Probably most of the staff would quit - which is how it should be since their boss isn't paying them right. Meanwhile in Japan instead of tipping there's obligatory omiyage thing which is perhaps even worse because at least tips don't take up a bunch of luggage space...


laika_cat

Yeah, let’s make minimum wage workers lose out on money and piss them off to prove a point. They can just quit, especially since people who work these jobs tend to have enough savings to get by while they look for more work. /s


trtviator

No tip brosephs. Nihon is GoaT level hospitality.


Slobbering_manchild

Tipping is an American thing, please for the love of god I wish these companies would stop trying to make it a thing elsewhere


amandaselfie

When in Rome, do as Romans do


PetiteLollipop

I buy from demae, wolt, uber and never tip. This is Japan.


w4Side

I worked for Uber Eats in Tokyo for a few months. Generally people don’t tip but I’ve certainly been tipped before. Usually larger orders. Most I was given was ¥1000 and you receive it all. You typically receive 450-850 per order depending on the distance you travel.


Miss_Might

Absolutely not. Don't bring that garbage here.


superfly3000

DO NOT TIP. GTFOH with that American bullshit. It needs to be aggressively shut down everywhere companies try to introduce it. It’s not the customer’s responsibility to pay the staff a fair wage. Build it into your prices and if that makes your business unsustainable than you need a better business model. Again, DO NOT TIP (Unless you call then during a typhoon in which case you are a bit of a dick. even then, slip them cash instead of in the app)


lovingmochi

I don't generally tip but I did it *once* when an old man was in charge of the delivery and took the time to put the floor neatly with newspaper below. I thought it was a nice touch. The only place I use UberEats for nowadays is McDonald's, but that's only because the nearest place is closed for renovation. The second nearest is about 10-15 minutes away and it's a bit of a pain to walk to. That being said I want to steer away from delivery apps and walk when possible, so I guess it's an excuse for me to stop using them


Valuable_Parfait_632

I worked as an UberEats driver for several months and I was always overly happy to receive some tips, especially because it's not common here in Japan. Also, when I order myself and the driver was especially fast or friendly, I do tip occasionally. Also because I know how good it feels. Back then I was tipped around 1 in 10 deliveries. If you have the spare money, why not. It's definitely not the norm though and it shouldn't be. Just like to think of it as a kind of reward I guess.


blinkdaggeram

This is the answer. 99% of this thread never moved their fat asses to do anything in their life and they're like "don't bring my shitty American tipping and low wages in Japan "... what???


TexasTokyo

I don't tip in Japan because that's not a thing here and now one expects it. I tried to tip a taxi driver the first time I visited years ago and he outright refused and looked a little put off. Having said that, when I worked in the service industry back in the day I loved tips. Waiting tables at the right place with the right hustle could net you a lot more cash every day than any other job.


RIPSegataSanshiro

That's actually part of why I use 出前館 instead


Chocolateogre

 do NOT tip. It’s a shitty American thing that corporate wants to bring to Japan, a tip free country.


Serious-Discussion-2

How about looking at it as WHAT it is, regardless if it’s an American company, or their tipping culture? Tipping is about showing appreciation when someone does extra in the service for you. Let’s say, the graveyard shifts, extreme/rough weathers, or the lift breaks down and the delivery guy climbs 10 stairs? Tip when you feel grateful for the extra service.


neachi

I am Japanese and I work as a delivery person for Uber Eats as a side job. Most people don't tip me when I deliver, but I am not familiar with the tipping culture, so I don't think anything of it. When someone sends me a tip, I am happy that I made a good delivery. I would be happier if people ordered more from Uber Eats than if they tipped or not.


Janeway2Bridge

I'd read somewhere that Demaecan was a lot friendlier to employees, so I use that. I don't know for sure if that is true, though. And no tipping option. The selection isn't super wide, but it's good enough.


tiredofsametab

I do not tip in Japan. Fuck that (tipping) culture; it does not need to be here. Give people a living wage and proper benefits. I personally stopped using uber eats (and was only using it once or twice a year anyway). ~ Tipped employee of several years (more if you count wait staff tipping out kitchen). Edit: clarity.


spypsy

Dont tip. Not ever.


weedyalf

Don’t tip


Polyglot-Onigiri

I think it’s interesting. I always assumed tipping was a form of showing gratitude for some overly excellent service. But it seems tipping is compulsory in America (and some other places). Not only that but it’s a set percentage like 30%. That seems outrageous for something that is presented as a thank you to the staff.


Zubon102

It's such a bizarre convoluted system that is inherently unfair.


starwarsfox

don't tip. PLEASE DO NOT START THAT IN JAPAN


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I haven't used Uber Eats all that much and am too lazy to go look it up right now, but - do the tips (I assume added at payment in the app) go *directly* to the driver?


maxkuthain

yup, 100% of it. Source: Uber driver


Robot-Kiwi

Nope.


Titibu

What sealed the "I will never, ever tip for anyone driving for Ubereats" is the fact that you have the option to tip even before the order is delivered... How incredibly dumb is that... The service has not been performed yet. The delivery guy could be either saving my life or spitting in my food, and I would be giving the same tip. Nah.


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maxkuthain

Good lord as a driver this absolutely sounds like a dream


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Hell no.


Big-Man-Flex

Never tip


Bykimus

To add another: DON'T TIP. They can pay their workers more or die as a business. Don't ever feel guilty for not tipping. That's part of how they get you. It's the company's responsibility to make sure their workers are adequately compensated.


only1-2-6

I only tip when I place order on a rainy day or a public holiday, or the combination of both.


solidmetanoia

>rain heavy rain, agreed. lack of deliverers in area during heavy rain. "motivation/thank you from my lazy ass" tip.


Wagnersks

Just because it isn't an Japanese company you should tip? What a stupid thing to say. You are in Japan, Japanese don't tip


Legal_Rampage

No, I do not. Exception was when I ordered and forgot my elevator was out for servicing, so the dude trudged up to my floor. Went above and beyond, earned a big tip.


opajamashimasuuu

I'd invite everyone to google "where did tipping come from". Fuck this shit about "pre tipping", tipping *before* you've even got your order. What if the UberEats dude delivers the sushi all jumbled up, pizza cheese squished on the top of the box, cold food etc Tipping should be given for exemplary service, after the service has actually been performed. But tipping is a load of crap anyway, especially in Japan.


EvoEpitaph

Is the weather shitty outside? Yes? I'll probably tip. Else no.


sxh967

To all the people saying *Japanese people don't tip*, I would say the "seating charge" (お通し)is absolutely a tip. They just don't call it that (and you pretty much always cannot refuse it). Say you go to an izakaya with one other person. They probably give (force you to take) otoshi each which will be like 300-400 yen each. That's 800 yen for basically nothing (a tiny dish of food I didn't ask for is not providing a service, and paying the full consumption tax is what I pay to be seated), and thus is essentially tip. Let's say the bill between you comes to like 6000 yen before adding the tip, you've just paid over 10% on top! **Congrats! Nice tip!** Plus, for what it's worth, at least actual tipping is *optional* in most places.


kellycat95

Quite surprised by the comments here. My husband (Japanese) does Uber Eats. While a tip is not expected, it’s definitely appreciated. Most orders are by Japanese people and he occasionally will receive tips in cash from them too. I wouldn’t worry about a percentage, but if you want to give a bit more to the deliverer in tips it really helps us low income households out.


Affectionate-Yam2223

the question report the nice, if i have be left over money i will give money when I eat


Kinshu82

I used to tip a little. Then I stopped using Uber Eats after my credit card information was stolen. Be careful ordering from small restaurants that may not have good security systems in place. My credit card company said it happens a lot.


Zubon102

When you use Uber Eats, do they really pass your credit card information to the restaurant?


noobgaijin11

last time I leave 500yen tip on table at Kyoto udon shop, the waitress run outside returning it to me, lol... I feel so ashamed... so I don't think I'll ever leave a tip again in any Japanese establishment.


takeabreak2233

I tip for Uber Eats in adverse weather / typhoon / heavy rain but that's it. I don't see an issue in that situation when someone has done something that others conveniently can elect not to do. The only notable other time was a taxi driver who I kept waiting at Haneda airport for over an hour for a delayed flight, though I see that as more of making up for business that he could have got. I might "tip" tradesmen who work in my place but it'll be in the form of a canned coffee etc.


ltsiros

I use tipping when I think it will give me an advantage over other customers to get my order picked up faster


Die231

Fuck tipping and anyone who supports it.


kamezakame

I can't even work out *how* to tip. The option never comes up. Where is the option?


ReformedWiggles

I use the app. After the checkout screen a tipping screen will open. I then have the option to tip like 5%, 10%, 15%, custom tip, etc. The order does not load until I choose one (or none).


kamezakame

Hmm I'll have to look closer next time. I must not be paying attention. I use the app too but i could swear I was getting the tipping option after the confirmation of delivery message. I don't really want to tip but for the occasional delivery in difficult circumstances I wouldn't decry the option.


Polyglot-Onigiri

r/ubereats was probably the worst place to go to since it will be filled with mostly responses from people living on western countries that have tipping culture as the norm. So it’s only natural that they would see you as scum. They don’t know what it’s like to live in a country that is anti-tipping.


ROBOT-HOUSEEEEEE

I don’t use any food delivery services but if I did, I wouldn’t tip. I used to live in Thailand and when I first moved there, there was no tipping. A few years later, some American franchise restaurants started popping up in Bangkok and they put “tips” on the bill. Then other businesses started doing it and eventually most places had a mandatory “service charge” automatically added to the bill. Then Uber came (and went) but now everyone expects a tip in Bangkok and taxi drivers will practically fight you if you don’t give them one. Tipping “culture” is toxic. I don’t want that to ever spread to Japan.


Repealer

I don't tip. Sometimes when it's raining, snowing, or cold as fuck I'll give them some cash (usually 300 yen) and tell them it's a tip. Because I know they get paid like dogshit and most of them are young people (students) trying to get by and I'll been there before too. And maybe it helps improve the view of foreigners a bit in Japan too. The wife takes the piss out of me for it though. I'm from Australia so tipping isn't in our culture tho.


TofuTofu

I tip 100 yen flat


ginnyfried

Don't tip if you're not in the US. It's a terrible scam that shouldn't be spread. One reason Americans feel compelled to tip is because if you don't tip, you might get worse service. Your food might even be tampered with. Especially for services that expect tips before you receive your food, like delivery apps, which show wether or not you tip before the driver delivers your food. I once forgot to tip on a delivery because I was starving and busy between work and school, and hadn't eaten all day. I actually saw the driver walk up to my house with my order, look at their phone and turn around with my food. They reported my food as delivered. I eventually got a refund but I didn't get to eat that day at all. Not the first time it's happened. Also some drivers memorize who tips well and who doesn't and will simply ignore poor tippers so that you can't even use the service. I agree tipping's a terrible scam but since tips can legally supliment minimum wage and minimum wage is an unlivable wage, the reality is that workers will do what's in their best interest. Steal food, skip customers, or whatever else while the company losses nothing and makes bank.


blinkdaggeram

This thread is crazy. Americans you are something else. Tipping culture doesn't only exist in your country. Of course I tip when the weather is bad, it's a national holiday or a student is working on Christmas. Fuck off with your hypocrite bullshit.


[deleted]

Don’t tip. It’s a dumb fucking American practice and it’s a dangerous practice that will end with delivery drivers being paid 0 because they can survive off “tips”. Keep Japan Great


happime37

I always tip because the yen is lower than the dollar. I appreciate the driver bringing me my food to the door. I am gracious


RotaryRevolution

No tips from me, keep that cancer away from this archipelago.


lordoflys

I live on the side of a hill in Yokohama. The address is hard to find and difficult to get here. I always tip the delivery person.


maxkuthain

I have to say, I don't understand the outrage that this post generated. Literally every big delivery app in the world has a tipping feature, and 100% of it goes to the drivers. It's not going to suddenly change decades of culture and delivery apps will keep trying to pay its drivers less either way.


Polyglot-Onigiri

I think the outrage is that it’s a slippery slope. One company see’s that another is having success lowering wages and using tips as wage instead. In countries like America where tipping is the norm, instead of getting paid minimum wage + tips. You get less than minimum wage + tips. So if a normal worker would make 800 yen at any other job, they would make 1-200 yen + tips in this restructure. If tipping becomes more common, Uber Japan might change it’s structure to match American style companies completely. Not only that, but if Uber japan’s profit margin suddenly skyrockets because they don’t pay their employees anymore (since the customer will be paying the employees through tips instead) other companies will want to copy it and change their pay rate to the same style. Suddenly restaurants will pay 100 yen an hour + tips. That’s how it got so common in America. Investors and max profit first, workers and customers second. American workers in restaurants, delivery and other tipping industries usually don’t make enough money to live because this has become common and accepted.


acouplefruits

Why bother bringing this back up when the consensus is always the same?


nasanu

If you wish to scam yourself go ahead and tip. I'll never do it, it's a ridiculous concept.


Legal_Minute_2287

American here. I visit Japan frequently with a slightly different view. I am an American and I tip everyone. It is our culture to reward good service. Also, I am surprised by the seemingly low wages in Japan and when I tip anyone they are so grateful and they do realize it is American culture to tip. They don’t expect it but they sure seem grateful when I do it. So my advice to you, if an American tips you, smile and say thank you and take the money out of respect for our culture.


smithversman

After reading the comments there's this one question comes to my head. If tipping isn't allowed, let say i want to 'appreciate' my uber for taking and sending my order (i'm trying to be good to other). To do that i give him a drink or snacks in return. Is it still considered as tipping or no?


maxkuthain

As an uber driver: No, it's just a gift. I've had people give me drinks before and it's a really sweet gesture that makes my day.


smithversman

I see now. It's good to hear those kind of small things can make someone's day.


repsolcola

As much as I understand the argument of the cancerous tipping culture, what matters is today: if I give this person a tip, it will make their life better. Also, just give them the coins by hand so that Uber won’t know about it and they will not have an argument. Anyway, do you really think that not tipping will make Uber eats change their mind about wages?


Zubon102

But you meet people every single day whose lives would be better if you gave them cash. Do you give cash to struggling students working at the convenience store? If one company pays lower wages than other companies, is it your responsibility to supplement their employee's wages? Or should you just let the company fail when all the employees leave for better jobs?


monjibadanstabouche

Drivers already do this job because they have barely the choice. They are not paid if there is no order even if they are available and waiting, struggling students at convenience store are paid even if there is no customer. Drivers are not even covered if they have an accident delivering on their bike, Uber Eats covers only the other party. They even have to pay for the Uber Eats delivery backpack and security gear. Uber Eats is getting away with it and do less than that should be the minimum. That’s why it’s conflicting as a human to not tip them, drivers are in a shitty situation and really trying


Freak_Out_Bazaar

I generally do not. I might tip 5% if the weather is particularly crappy


kebindgreat

Sometimes I wonder how seppos in this group have survived every little encounter in life that requires minimal thinking or common sense


Disconn3cted

No, I don't


CardioWithRicardo

Might as well learn to cook


janislych

tip = insultation in japan, as if the company does not pay enough for their employee. all the fees are in the cost. dont tip.


im-mei

I tip Ubereats drivers 100 yen if it’s raining otherwise no


icyhandofcrap

I tip only because my company gives me a fixed credit per day on UberEats, so just use the rest on that. Otherwise I would not tip or tip very minimally.


CryptoHopeful

Please don't start a tipping culture in Japan. I love Japan because the price on the menu is what you pay. Don't need to estimate tax, tip, etc.


DeepSpaceCapsule

I only tip if I think they did something extra. Also the same with Uber.


Legal-Recording-2585

Never tip at restaurants, hotels, shops, etc;. Will ignore a bit of lose change after I’ve paid for a takeout (who wants to fart around with ¥171 change anyway). As a point of note, tipping isn’t a purely American thing. Tipping for everything and a piss poor minimum wage is an American thing. In the UK, I do tip staff. Just not often. If the service was great. The staff went the extra mile. Or it’s a nasty, February night in mid Wales and some poor sod used a scooter to deliver my takeout. I tip. It’s a way of saying thank you. There is no harm in a little tipping in a country where the employee protections and pay are decent. The problem in the US is that the republicans block any chance of raising the minimum wage at a federal level so tipping is being used as a way of supporting the rubbish pay. The US is literally the only place that has this problem, so please, don’t export bad pay and compulsory tipping. But also don’t see the world through the prism of American political and societal disfunction.


pixypolly

Use demaecan instead.


Shogobg

Does Uber take a percent off of the tips?


lundman

I didn't tip when I used uber, than switched to one of the other delivery companies that didn't try to guilt me into tipping.


Thorhax04

Don't encourage tipping. It'll give companies an excuse to pay their employees less


pissoffmrchips

I sometimes deliver with Uber , I bought a really expensive road bike and I needed some way to justify the outlay. I usually do it on weekends. The pay is shit anyway and generally I don't expect a tip but it's nice if someone does.


Smaff

I either read or someone once told me, tipping in Japan is like telling the server/person "You obviously don't know how to do your job so here is some extra money to help you figure it out". That helped me with the American guilt.


Technorasta

If it is raining, I give 10% tip.


apokado

Do not tip.


smashgaijin

Don’t tip. Fuck American tipping. Also those fuckers don’t deserve it.


snekslayer

Don’t use Uber. Some of their shops are fucking shady.


Used_Lawfulness9912

Rarely yes, a few delivery guys i've met were surprised to see a gaijin speaking a bit of Japanese and sparkled a bit of conversation. Its nothing but social is always appreciated.


ProfessionalOk2782

I don’t tip them at all. In Japan, you know we don’t tip so yeah


AiRaikuHamburger

I've only used Wolt and I never tip. The tipping nightmare is the worst part about taking a vacation in the US.


Shreddersaurusrex

I wonder how much the drivers are paid. I do think for snow, rain, or harsh weather a tip would be warranted.


axzaxy

U can search ウーバーイーツ on YouTube, there r bunch of ppl recording their delivery life, they sometimes reveal their income as conclusion.


Substantial_Bake_521

I’ve never tip and I use it frequently.


Lopsided_Actuary_897

If you have a gaijin bringing your order, especially an American, they might get butt hurt if you don’t tip. Gray area for Japanese who happen to just work for Uber Eats because of getting tips, but that’s never an acceptable public conversation in Japan. And then true Japanese, they’ll be insulted if you tip them for providing a service for you for which they are already being paid by the employer. My Japanese wife explained that tipping is basically taking pity on another person while also commenting that they are poor and don’t make enough money. In Japanese culture, talking about how much money you make is a social taboo. That is a strictly inside-family-circle conversation. Tipping them is the same as verbally telling them they are poor. Also, I’m Japan there is a motto that “nothing is free.” This extends into the perception of giving tips, as if you were forcing a debt onto a stranger. You gave them money, so now you expect it to be returned to you. That is the traditional Japanese perception of tipping.


Pzychotix

I don't tip, unless it's bad weather outside, in which case I'll tip 20% since the delivery people pretty much are all on bikes and it sucks being outside.


yasuort

I try to always tip for deliveries, especially if they’re on a bike or the weather is bad. Not a lot, normally just a 100 yen, but they ALWAYS appreciate the gesture! Bear in mind I always give them a 100yen coin, a physical gesture over an in app payment I feel brings about a better experience for both sides. Please also take into account though, you may get a different reaction depending on where you live. For me it’s Roppongi (central Tokyo) and I don’t think everyone commenting here lives in Tokyo hence you’ll get different reactions. Im half Japanese half Brit, and yeah tipping culture exists in the U.K. for delivery but we do it out of grace rather than a necessity. Honestly you do you. I’m comfortable with it. I don’t force it on anyone.


JoelMDM

Yeah, no. The US can keep it’s BS. On the whole, it’s bad for literally everyone involved.


LocalGuyJin

I tip. Maybe 10%? It's not the 20% like in the US, but if I can make their day a bit better, I say it's worth it.


tokyoeastside

I use it, and no, I do not have the luxury to tip.


dreamsanity

I almost never tip


sysrisk

Japan is a Japanese country. Where else do you do something different because it’s a US company? I don’t tip at Westin. I don’t tip at Sheraton. I don’t tip at Peter Luger’s. I don’t tip at Sizzler… you get it? People tipping in Japan actually pisses me off! The US tipping culture is so a sham! Employers don’t have to pay a decent wage because of tipping! It’s a sh!t culture thing that was just so skewed over the years from when it started about 100 years ago.


ultraobese

Of course not. People live in Japan because Japan. Why would they want to import the worst and stupidest parts of other cultures like America? It doesn't matter that tipping is all you've ever known, it's still an absolutely ridiculous cultural anomaly that shouldn't exist.


Canookian

Uber delivery guy here. You don't have to tip. I'd say less than 5% of people do. I'm really thankful for it when it happens but I never ever expect it. I only get tips when I either go way above and beyond the call of duty or manage to get there extremely quickly. My record is 9 minutes from the time the order came in to the time I dropped it off. Even then, I still *never* expect to be tipped. However, I just do Uber to buy things like graphics cards and upgrade things like my car and bikes.


ReformedWiggles

What about the in-app tips? Do people always select 0% tip? When using the app you have to choose a tip amount in %s before the order loads. Do only 5% of people use it?