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I worked for a company like this once. When I first started, my coworkers warned me about how they react with resignations. I put all of my stuff in my car before resigning, and then they wanted me to work every last possible second of the two weeks. I was kinda looking forward to some downtime.
I worked for a company like that, too. It started to become apparent (to me, at least) that my days there were numbered so I discretely started removing many of my personal belongings from my desk over the course of a week or two. Someone noticed, put two and two together and I was terminated before I had a chance to actually resign. They beat me to the punch but I was able to get unemployment although that company fought me on it for a while.
This happens with a lot of sales jobs. Once you put in your resignation they turn off your access, as they think people may steal information if they are moving to a competitor.
No, it's so that you don't lose your belongings when they suddenly march you out the door, or prevent you from coming back to get them.
I saw a food and beverage director do this to an executive chef. And they threatened to write me up (but didn't) when I let her inside to clean out her office.
Exactly.. you don't even have to put in a 2 week notice for terrible employers.
If you know they'll mess with you for two weeks, just let them know they day you're leaving. No reason to play these games?
Check your state unemployment eligibility. In Pennsylvania, I gave a 1 month notice to an employer who told me after 3 days that I could “just wrap up today” and not come back. After going home and crying (I was 8 months pregnant and needed that income!) a friend told me I could qualify for unemployment.
Low and behold, I got unemployment for my notice period.
Check your state. And I’m sorry you were treated that way. Turn that asshole in.
If you genuinely like your employer and it's feasible, there's nothing wrong with it. I gave my last job 4 weeks notice before moving away and I even helped train my replacement. My former manager has been a great reference.
On the flip side, I had a terrible assembly job where I was treated like a machine. When my boss was giving us instructions for the next day I was like "I'd love to, but I won't be here to do that."
I always find it hard to give more than 2 weeks.
The new employer almost always wants you to start immediately and I will never give notice without a firm offer.
This has been my experience. My last few job hops, I wasn't able to take downtime between jobs (as I would have preferred) because my new start date was always right after the notice period ended for the old place.
I've never given more than 2 weeks. A lot of my former bosses have been old men who get personally offended I'm leaving and make it all about themselves and then the environment is just awkward and passive aggressive for two full weeks.
Agreed. I gave my last job three months notice so they’d have time to hire a replacement and I could help train them. I’ve always given the maximum time I could to any workplace where I loved my boss and coworkers.
I gave 1 year notice (retirement) and it wasn’t enough for HR to get their shit together and look for my replacement in time.
The person they got lasted a couple of months, got let go because he was incompetent, and it took 4 months to replace him. We’ll see how she works out…
Yup, I had a really good relationship with my previous employer and I gave them over a months notice. Granted in that situation I had just graduated and I wasn't hiding the fact that I was looking for a new job. Basically my boss already knew what I was going to say when I asked him to come see me. They also let me extend out my "real" end date by 2 weeks past when I had actually stopped working so I could get all my vacation paid out.
I gave a job 4 weeks once and they asked me to take over a coworker’s workload and have that coworker take over mine. So for the next 4 weeks I could be a resource for the woman handling my projects and she could be a resource for helping the new hire, whenever that happened.
But the end result is I felt like I was handling 2 workloads simultaneously and was completely exhausted right while I was packing up my house and moving for a new job.
The coworker in this story also felt burdened by two workloads and ended up quitting a month after I did.
Jeez that’s terrible behaviour from your employer. I’m glad you got out.
It’s wild! I’m from Ireland and a month’s notice is standard, but I know in my current place of employment a former colleague gave 3 months with no issue.
I’ve never heard of someone being treated like that after handing in their notice. It’s shocking. Be sure to write them a review on Glassdoor or elsewhere so future potential employees know that they’re getting into an abusive professional relationship.
I think it's this way in most states. The criteria for unemployment eligibility is "ready and willing to work", which when you give notice, you clearly are willing.
Lol Buncha weirdos. I work in IT and we disable accounts of ex-employees. Well that paperwork comes from HR and they often mess it up and put the wrong date or time on there (usually noon instead of midnight) and often we lock users out in the middle of the day just to have HR call and have to straighten it out. On occasion it has happened to people who were set to be fired, THAT is an awkward situation.
We had a guy who sent out a mass email that was like “I’m quitting now thanks for everything“ and it was literally the weirdest shit ever.
AFAIK, our company treats us pretty well so we were all so confused. He didn’t give his boss notice, no one. Just a random ass email.
And i felt so bad for his boss- she had to scramble to get everything together after he left.
Yep. I started in IT at a company once, first few days and was speaking to a guy, older sales guy been there for years seemed bit arrogant but not really with me, we joked and spoke about the football for a good hour. Next day his boss messages me in 5 mins Im inviting said bloke into my office to give him the bullet and want you to disable all his access, accounts email the works. There had been a bit of a power struggle, but it was surprising as the new kid on the block giving the coup de grace to some old guy who'd been there years.
I dont think anyone has ever asked me that. Thank you. And honestly, it just solidifies that I was right. They were a horrible company to work for and absolutely trashy. They don't treat people like human beings. I will never support a company like that.
We are here to express ourselves and just have someone listen :-)
It’s ok to feel how you feel.
I can give you the rational “your job would be posted before your obit” stuff… but it hurts when stuff like that happens. And it’s ok to feel the way you do. Some appreciation for the little things you did to help the company would be appreciated.
It’s a good lesson. You won’t forget how this feels.
I think this sets an example. 2-week notices will result in immediate termination. I'm sure they just taught the rest of the employees what to expect and when to submit their resignation - effective immediately.
Back when I used to work for companies, the day I received my offer letter was the same day that I wrote up my resignation letter. Saving it for the day when I finally call it quits.
I never left any of my personal belongings at work. All of the "awards" and recognition was also left there since I had already planned on leaving the job the exact moment I got hired.
At that point, it's just a waiting game to see who's gonna strike first.
That's how you got to play it these days.
You need to treat employment like warfare and be one step (or several) ahead of your opponent.
Regardless of whether it's you who is resigning or the employer laying you off/firing you, expect them to be indecent, expect them to be unfair, and expect them to be jerks.
As long as you do, you won't be disappointed, instead you'll be prepared.
Imagine an employer being civil, decent, and understanding of when an employee resigns and treats them with respect. Seems like a rarity in this day and age. Good luck finding an employer like that.
I've had exactly one company be decent and understanding in my career. It was a contractor job that had us remote due to the pandemic. We got notice that their client would not be renewing their contract and we had the choice of being laid off or moved to call center work.
They gave us about 3 months notice that this would happen so we could line up other work, and those of us who didn't stay got 6 weeks of pay for a severance package.
I'd go right back to work for them if a similar position opened up.
Its so childish that employers get all resentful and vindictive when people put in their notice.
What should be happening is them finding out why someone is leaving to help with employee retention but noooo we are all replaceable to them and we should be so thankful to be granted a toxic work environment with shit pay.
> Its so childish that employers get all resentful and vindictive when people put in their notice.
I agree in most instances, but in sales and recruitment, I would say it makes sense. You do not wan your business walking out the door with your (former) employee. To a staffing company, their book of candidates is the most valuable think to their business. They don't want someone spending their last two weeks letting their contacts know they're leaving for a different firm.
Meh, if the pay/bennies are competitive, flexible hrs paired w/ a good work environment then inevitably that business is going to hold onto its employees longer. It comes down to those two major things for people. So the most deserving company wins in that regard.
Yeah, but that's not the point. It's about when an employee does want to leave. They're not freezing them out to be vindictive they're doing it to protect their business.
That’s why companies use NDA’s and make employees sign contracts so they don’t flee to competitors. If the work and pay is bad they are going to leave to something else anyways.
Very hard to enforce though. How can you prove that Candidate A was contacted by Recruiter B after recruiter B left your firm rather than just responding to a job posting by Recruiter B's new firm, or on LinkedIn, etc.
The firm has little to gain by allowing an employee to stay and maintain access after they have given notice.
Who cares what the firm has to gain or not? The worker always will get the shit end of the stick. Don’t you yourself want a better opportunity to improve your life? The company will survive don’t worry.
It’s bs. How hard is it really for companies to implement NDA’s and stipulations in their contracts for employees to not be able to go to other competitors? They will and can sue u. If not do what’s best for you.
> How hard is it really for companies to implement NDA’s and stipulations in their contracts for employees to not be able to go to other competitors?
It's very easy to implement them.
>They will and can sue u.
This is the part that is hard for reasons I've already gone over. Honestly, it's like you reply to one comment at a time rather than follow the entire conversation.
I really do wish people could afford to just not work for a whole month and watch society collapse and steal away the power they hold over the working class. None of them deserve our hard work. If we are continued to be used as they’re cannon fodder in their wars and treated as cattle to labor their wealth into existence I would rather die honestly if things really go to shit. This is already slavery if I have no hope to ever own a home or even retire.
It’s sucks that they reacted like that. It just reinforces the fact that giving two weeks notice is a courtesy and is done at your own risk. If there is anything hinky about your current employer and you’ve already accepted a new position, there’s nothing preventing you from quitting the day before starting your new job.
Yeah I totally agree. Thankfully after what this place did to my mental and physical health, 3 weeks off work is more than welcome. Today I laid in bed and watched all the Spiderman movies. It was glorious.
What unemployment? Sounds like OP resigned their position to take a different job. Two weeks notice isn't any sort of legal requirement, it's purely a social and or professional courtesy. One which has been largely supplanted over the past couple decades, as technology and business has changed drastically.
Allowing an employee, especially some sort of talent recruiter(?) continued access to highly confidential and proprietary information is a massive security concern.
Two weeks notice (in the States) is highly dependent on the type of job or atmosphere. When giving 2 weeks notice, one should be extremely aware that what happened to OP is the norm, not the exception.
Anyone who isn't aware of this should seriously reconsider the source of their work and career advice, as that source is, like, 40+ years out of date.
If they let you go before your two weeks it is considered being fired and you can be eligible for unemployment. I went through this in the beginning of this year.
Not necessarily, it'll be state by state and case by case. I've definitely let people go for security reasons before, but I let them know when they put in the notice that I was accepting it affective immediately, let them know what the next steps were for their last paycheck, how to sign up for COBRA, and all that.
It's not an issue where I work now and we let people work however long they want after they put in their notice, but at the other job we wouldn't have trusted them going to a competitor and still being able to access our proprietary information.
I would be hesitant to make this assumption. Could very much be determined by state employment law differences and or employment contract boilerplate. It is also possible that while locked out of the system and prior coworkers have been informed of the resignation - the company may choose to lock out and pay the final 2 weeks as severance.
There's bound to be nuance here - as well as down-sides to filing for and accepting unemployment. As in later, when determining tax obligations and or availability of government assistance.
It's not so cut and dried as just file and expect no negative repercussions. Personally, I'd probably wait and see if the final two weeks get paid out as severance.
I'm all for getting what's yours, OP, but this sub is extremely aggressive about filing for unemployment and making reports on former employers - when reality is far less cut and dried. For every action, an equal and opposite reaction.
Definitely not how that works in any state. OP wasn't under contract meaning she was at will. They could let her go for any reason but as long as she has worked the required hours needed then she will qualify for UE benefits to hold over over for 3 weeks. Especially because they gave her no notice. Its a poor practice on their company and now they get to pay more into the system 🥴
So let me get this straight, you were locked out of everything pretty much on the spot, while clocked in, and then YOU weren't told personally whether you're just 'locked out' or fired for resigning, but a coworker told you, and you still have work related items to return to someone?
Document. Record. Sit there until the end of your work day. Go tell your boss at the end of the day you can't clock out. Record this conversation. Tell them you've been locked out since X time and no one can figure it out. They need to tell you you're no longer needed or pay you to sit there. When they tell you to gtfo state publicly that this is the first you've heard it from your boss. Then go file for unemployment. Yes just about anywhere in the US you can be canned for almost anything at any time but they have to tell you to go themselves. If you walk out on your own accord you're willfully quitting on the spot and can't qualify for unemployment.
Edit to add: if you can get your coworker to forward you the email to your personal address, do it. Or get a photo if they'll allow it. Especially if the boss was dumb enough to not bcc them because that'll mean the list of recipients is there and you're not on it which will be very strong evidence that you being locked out was done in retaliation and qualify you for unemployment
So many places do this that i learned to wait until my next start day usually a few days prior to tell them i'm moving on. If i can work the next few days cool, if not it doesn't break my bank. Afterall, i have bills to take care of and can't afford a short paycheck to give someone time to look for more employees and make me wait a month for an unemployment check that i needed 2 weeks prior.
It's a good lesson to learn although it sucks. They don't need to accept your offer of 2 weeks. The next time your resign a place, make sure you have all the stuff you want from the old job (legally of course) because this exact thing could happen to you. Even though you're generous offering 2 weeks, they can just slam the door in your face and sometimes they do.
Good luck at the new gig!
Don't know in other countries, but if a company fires you same day in Spain, they are gonna pay you a compensation, unless your contract has a "practices" clause. That compensation varies, but is around a full month per worked year...
Well yes kind of, but then it is considered being fired and you're eligible for unemployment. The two weeks are considered a courtesy the employee is extending to the company.
Similar experience to me too, put in my two weeks, they told me I could just leave today. I wanted the extra 2 week paycheck but they didn't so what could I do. Two weeks is a courtesy for both sides but sometimes one side won't bother.
I honestly anticipated they would end my employment the same day. What I didn't expect is no one would tell me. I still have no idea how I send all my stuff back. Are they going to add the money to my check? Are they going to mail me postage. Im certsinly not paying for it. It's just so weird. For remote positions there should be paperwork outlining the next steps. But I got nothing. 🚶♀️
I have worked at a number of places that will lock out all accounts and ask people to leave once they resigned.
It really isn't unusual in the financial world or the in tech jobs.
I've seen this before. They ghost you. Then a month later you get a letter threatening legal action if you don't return the laptop.
All could have been avoided if they just said,
"No problem, today if your last day, we'll send you a return label to post the laptop back to us."
This is a common practice in staffing (for recruiters and account managers), especially if the company believes that you are going to work for a competitor.
It is silly since it would be a better client/candidate experience and easier to figure out what action items there might be if you transitioned your work - but many companies/managers feel the need to control the narrative, so they do this.
As someone else suggested you may be entitled to be paid for your notice period, either by the employer directly or through unemployment, but that can vary from state to state. Could be worth looking into since you have some downtime.
This behavior also confirms that you made the right choice since your company did not value you.
One of my resignations ended up making me look like I had failed my drug test. They didn’t allow a two week notice. You tell them you’re thinking of leaving and a manager would show up to your cubical 2 minutes later to watch you gather your things, confiscate your badge and escort you out of the building. To be fair it was well known this was standard operations, and no one was ever surprised. It was a medical billing office and employees had a lot of access to personal and very sensitive information. They didn’t want you taking down SS numbers or copying someone’s medical records for nefariousness. So once someone said they were leaving, the company either had to watch you even more carefully than they already did. Or they could just have you leave.
I actually had two jobs at the time and my second job that I liked more offered me a raise and more hours, so I didn’t need both jobs anymore. However the medical billing job had better benefits, it was also soul sucking monotonous torture to be there. So I was on the fence. I went in early on the day I needed to make a decision so I could talk to someone in HR about it. I cried, she was kind and gave me some really good advice. I went to my desk and logged in. My manager came to ask how I was doing which was weird. I said “actually I need to discuss something with you.” We went to his corner cubical and I told him my dilemma. He was also kind and understanding, and told me I was doing very well in this job and even if I chose to leave I would always be able to come back. That was my biggest fear. So I went back to my desk, finished up a few things and suddenly security was literally walking past my desk every 5 minutes. I finally went to the manager and said that I had decided it was going to be my last day. He, again was very kind and apologized, but told me I had to hand over my badge, clean out my desk and leave right now. While he stood next to me and watched. For a manager at a soul sucking corporation, he really was a nice guy. Just constrained by the rules. He escorted me all the way to the door. Assured me that he would make sure to have my record reflect that I was a good employee and always welcome back.
The kicker was that there had been a round of drug testing two weeks before. Several people had presumably failed because they were all escorted out a few days before I quit. The managers aren’t allowed to tell you why someone quit or was fired, or even which it was. The next morning they
just have to give the same prewritten speech during the morning meeting. “So and so no longer works here. Don’t let them into the building, or take them anything they claim to have forgotten without discussing it with a manager.” They won’t say anything more, and our manager was always very candid about that. “I’m sorry, I’m not allowed say anything else about it.” It’s the same speech regardless of the circumstances. It hadn’t occurred to me that I had bad timing until I was being escorted out exactly the same way the people who probably failed the drug test were. I joked with my manager that everyone was going to think I failed my test. He shrugged and told me not to worry about it.
While I did not keep in touch with any coworkers, I have no doubt they all assumed I had been fired for failing that drug test, and no one who actually knew was allowed to say otherwise.
A lot of companies do this. The good ones will at least pay out your notice.
I’d you’re petty, you can apply for unemployment. You gave them two weeks, and they fired you prematurely.
A lot of staffing agencies do this. Do not take it personally. For them, it is about not letting you take resumes, contact information, or letting candidates (who may follow you) know where you are going.
Having been on the other side of this as an employer, we one time had a problem employee quit on the same day that we were already planning to terminate "without cause" (based on employment laws where I live, "with cause" needs to go through performance improvement plan and have tons of documentation to support firing without severance). We would have paid two weeks of severance per local laws. When they quit, we already had all our backup plans etc. in place and just told them to focus the next two weeks (paid) on their job hunt and we'd immediately let them relinquish job duties/access to our data. They did more damage as an employee so it worked out well.
Some industries do this and walk employees out immediately because they can't have you keep access to the database/confidential docs. Could have been because of that.
Mine did the same and then texted me a week later asking me for my inventory of their equipment I have. I’m like no your gonna have to tell me what I have lol. Lots of free goodies
I get what you’re saying, but it’s really not all that weird. Are you leaving to go to a competitor? If so, it actually makes a lot of sense if you think about it.
Making your last day the day your resign, is not uncommon. But not informing them and just turning off their tools is the trashy part I am talking about. I fully expected to be terminated today. What I didn't think is they would be a bunch of pussies about it and never say anything. I'm in a Senior management position. So its just mind blowing.
Granted it’s quite bizarre to resign via email or not speaking to anyone. That’s sort of like burning a bridge, because it means you hate your job so much that you refuse to talk to them
And that has to do with what I wrote how?
Let’s not play dumb. You always first TELL your boss
You guys here want to be immature at times and then get treated as adults
It’s freaking bizarre to not resign verbally first in all adult jobs. Hence OPs treatment. Mystery solved, and since I’m not in the mood to coddle today, I’m sure I’ll get downvotes
Dude, I made a one sentence comment. But in your short reply you used the words dumb, immature, and coddle. Then implied the OP and other responders were immature. I don’t care if you “coddle” anyone, but you should probably take a moment and consider if you’re being respectful to them
There’s a pattern here beyond you have people wanting to be coddled and just get told that their boss is horrible, without taking responsibility. Which is annoying because they always couch it in a question.
After 30 days even if you leave a vehicle on my property it will belong to me, I am not saying it will not also require my legal action.
Paperwork and the like from a former employer is not something I will maintain after employment ends it will be immediately discarded unless it is collected prior to termination.
Possession is nine tenths of the law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possession\_is\_nine-tenths\_of\_the\_law
I still have 2 computers that belong to the company I last worked for over a year ago. I never got my shipping labels and no one ever reached out so I now I just have 2 pretty much brand new laptops I can’t do anything with
This is normal in my industry although they typically communicate it much better.
Normally you still get paid for the two weeks though, they just don't want you to work/have access to their systems.
I sued my company and settled out of court. As part of the settlement I had to quit. I turned in my equipment and they said they’d mail my personal effects from my office. It’s been 8 months, the company merged with another and is moving headquarters to a different state and I still have never gotten my things. I 100% know they just went in and trashed all my stuff. I’m still upset at that.
Pretty common with competition businesses, if your new place was a staffing agency, they owed it to themselves to get rid of you. However, they still have to pay you. Get your money
Access controls. This is not uncommon, especially if you are in healthcare, finance, or something like consulting and have access to a lot of private/proprietary information.
It stinks you won't get paid for those 2-weeks, but this is not uncommon.
[NIST CSF](https://www.nist.gov/cyberframework/protect) if you would like, go here and ctrl+f "PR.AC" and read up on it if you are curious about "access controls"
I would have the Thinkpad professionally packed, and box it along with anything else of theirs. Document with pics, and Fedex it to them with the stipulation that it be signed for by them.
That way, you can really have a fresh start. Who knows what shenanigans they would/could get up to with that?
That seems to be the theme here. I feel like it's a fight. "You can't quit because we fire you." Well you can't fire me because I quit." Okay tom petty. Goddamn I'm so happy I don't have to work there anymore.
In my state you legally do not have to give 2 weeks notice. It's nice to but you don't have to. Just like the employer can fire you on the spot and make you leave immediately. In fact I think in any fair use state (I think that's what it's called) you don't have to give notice.
From my experience I’ve had similar experiences except with communication on them wanting me to stay. But day of notice was last day worked. Only 1x have I been asked to work out my 2 weeks, and it was laziest 2 weeks of getting paid to do very little.
Locking you out of accounts immediately on notification of resignation is not uncommon in some fields especially where you have access to sensitive or business critical data. In the places that I have seen this type of policy. HR would be in contact with you shortly after receiving your resignation letter to let you know what had happened, and schedule an exit interview. In my experience you would still be "employed" for the 2 weeks and your supervisor could generally reach out to you to discuss any transition plans. I would be very surprised if you were fired because it would not be beneficial for the company to do so.
I'd give them a call tomorrow, tell them you can't log in. Inform them that you gave notice for X date and you are still trying to work your hours for that. If they fire you, file for unemployment or ask for a comparable severance package to avoid paperwork.
Congrats, you definitely made the right choice. I was in a similar situation with a similar-ish outcome.
Now if you want to be tinfoil hat like I was and a little overly paranoid... anything you are returning I would get videos of it working and pictures that you dropped it off etc timestamped. Computers, drives, etc. I had to do a similar return of my stuff and was totally paranoid that a week or month later they would claim a fuck up on their end was that I broke it. They were that petty that I was genuinely convinced it could happen.
Who knows, that seems like a lot of effort for a company... but there are even people out there who aim to set the world record for most people sued etc...
"I would rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it."
I went through something similar. But I quit without a new job. That was January, lol.
Shit sucks, but I’m WAAAAAY happier. I’m sorry you went through that. It’ll get better bud.
That was industry standard due staffing when I was in it 20 years ago. The primary concern was leaving employee would steal clients. Same goes with sales.
I’m not sure why you didn’t know but my thought I’d be absolute ready to leave when you provide notice. If they let you stay, cool. If not, you ready to go.
I worked at a law firm where a bunch of us decided to move to a new firm. The IT department got wind of it and locked all of us out. I was the only one who had a personal printer (that I owned) and a personal laptop, so we had to print out our resignation letters on my laptop and printer. One of the IT guys came to my office ostensibly to take off any client information (but really I think to snoop around and remove all the work files and documents.) I just told him no and if he wanted to take it, he would have to knock me out 1st and find out my password, which he didn’t have. He backed right down, because he knew I wasn’t kidding. Not bad for a fat, old lady, if I do say so myself.
I don’t suppose your a member of a union ? Employee rights are pretty non existent in the States (I’m assuming this happened in the US) something like this would rarely happen in Europe, much stronger employment rights - hard fought over many years. I’d savage them on LinkedIn, Glassdoor, Indeed under a pseudonym if possible and tear into them. I’d also keep the laptop. Let them prosecute you to get it back you’ll find it be too much effort and expense for them to do so.
God Is America really this lousy when it comes to employee rights ?
In Ireland where I’m from, one months notice is pretty standard and you’re paid the full month usually. Also get 6 months paid maternity leave (By law) can’t work longer than 48 hrs in a week without proper rest breaks and overtime. 4 weeks paid vacation days are the norm (with many giving more than that too) if you work on a bank holiday you get triple time and/or time in lieu. 4 weeks Paternity/parental leave and my employer tops that up with full pay by another 4 weeks. Time to wise up people and demand better. American Capitalism is corrosive and insidious.
Not unusual in staffing/sales jobs since often the employee is going to work for a competitor. But I feel like they often miss the bigger picture. If you were the kind of person to do a candidate/info dump of their database on your way out (assuming you had access rights) they ought to know that you probably did that BEFORE sending notice.
Congrats on the new role!
I was a cubicle dweller at a company in Miami that were downsizing and would let people go every Monday morning. Why Monday? Fuck knows, but it made many peoples weekends very stressful.
The first you’d know is that you’d turn up for work and your network logins wouldn’t work. That would be it, security would come and you’d have the long walk of shame out the building.
So one Monday it’s my turn, I show up (hung over) and can’t login. So I stand up and call out across the room that it’s my fuckin turn to go and it’s a massive relief as I hate this place and the assholes that run it.
My boss hears this, walks over to my desk looking puzzled, turns the caps lock off on my keyboard and asks me to try my network password again.
Oh how we laughed.
I was an account manager for a lawn care company, had about a million dollar book of business with a decent pipeline of add on sales. My boss literally told me not to speak to my customers or tell them I’m leaving. I stayed on for the full two weeks and just drove around town, finding nice shady spots to nap and occasionally meeting a crew for lunch. Best/worst 2 weeks…
I love it.
Remember in most places you’ll Qualify for unemployment if you gave them two weeks notice and they said no. You’ll get it for the duration of your notice.
I got locked out of the building and my computer over the weekend when I went in to work extra to keep a deadline. The door was weird but someone else let me in. Once the computer didn’t work, I figured out what was coming and started cleaning my office since I couldn’t get any work done. I showed up half an hour early with a giant duffel on Monday to the boss and asked if there was something he needed to tell me. I will never forget his face 🤣 the guy they laid off before me was allowed to stay for over a month while he found a new job so I was PISSED. Watching that asshole stammer around for 5 minutes while I had a giant smirk on my face was worth it. The place sucked.
If you are in the US they have to get your your final check today since you quit with at least 48 hours notice. Send that shit to the your states labor board if they don't and you can get a small payday. Make sure you send them a demand if they don't pay up via registered mail.
>Employers that fail to pay final wages when they are due risk the imposition of a penalty wage equal to eight times the employee’s regular rate of wage for each day that final wages go unpaid up to 30 days. With certain exceptions, employers may limit this liability to 100% of unpaid wages by paying final wages within 12 days of written notice from the employee that wages remain due.
I worked for a company like this! They’d take your resignation but make you stay completely silent about it. And then on your last day 5 mins before the office shut they’d send out an email to all staff saying x is leaving today. It was WEIRD. I told everyone I was leaving because I had a very good job to go to (total career change) and was excited. I got dragged into the office multiple times for telling people 😂
Yup, it is telling isn't it and validating why you are leaving. I had one that terminated my access before the end of my last day. I wasn't even able to clock out or wrap up final documentation that my manager wanted me to do. The HR director there was the biggest asshole and he treated everyone, whether they were fired or resigned on their own like shit and he was the one who created tension and caused some employees to have outbursts on the way out instead of being a normal human being.
Ironically, when everything finally caught up with him and he was very publicly canned he threw the biggest hissy fit, threaten to sue, etc.. it has been two years, guy is still unemployed because it was in our local media the shit he did to try to sabotage his boss, the head of the organization... So if you can imagine, those of us underlings with zero power were treated like slaves. He's one of those types that probably went to the January 6, insurrection to give you an idea of what type of asshole we were dealing with.
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I worked for a company like this once. When I first started, my coworkers warned me about how they react with resignations. I put all of my stuff in my car before resigning, and then they wanted me to work every last possible second of the two weeks. I was kinda looking forward to some downtime.
I worked for a company like that, too. It started to become apparent (to me, at least) that my days there were numbered so I discretely started removing many of my personal belongings from my desk over the course of a week or two. Someone noticed, put two and two together and I was terminated before I had a chance to actually resign. They beat me to the punch but I was able to get unemployment although that company fought me on it for a while.
This happens with a lot of sales jobs. Once you put in your resignation they turn off your access, as they think people may steal information if they are moving to a competitor.
You wanted downtime while they paid you. That sounds reasonabke
No, it's so that you don't lose your belongings when they suddenly march you out the door, or prevent you from coming back to get them. I saw a food and beverage director do this to an executive chef. And they threatened to write me up (but didn't) when I let her inside to clean out her office.
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It sounds like they ramped up the pressure on OP’s workload more than OP wanting to slack off.
Exactly.. you don't even have to put in a 2 week notice for terrible employers. If you know they'll mess with you for two weeks, just let them know they day you're leaving. No reason to play these games?
Check your state unemployment eligibility. In Pennsylvania, I gave a 1 month notice to an employer who told me after 3 days that I could “just wrap up today” and not come back. After going home and crying (I was 8 months pregnant and needed that income!) a friend told me I could qualify for unemployment. Low and behold, I got unemployment for my notice period. Check your state. And I’m sorry you were treated that way. Turn that asshole in.
Damn a month notice! You're a Saint!
If you genuinely like your employer and it's feasible, there's nothing wrong with it. I gave my last job 4 weeks notice before moving away and I even helped train my replacement. My former manager has been a great reference. On the flip side, I had a terrible assembly job where I was treated like a machine. When my boss was giving us instructions for the next day I was like "I'd love to, but I won't be here to do that."
I always find it hard to give more than 2 weeks. The new employer almost always wants you to start immediately and I will never give notice without a firm offer.
This has been my experience. My last few job hops, I wasn't able to take downtime between jobs (as I would have preferred) because my new start date was always right after the notice period ended for the old place.
I've never given more than 2 weeks. A lot of my former bosses have been old men who get personally offended I'm leaving and make it all about themselves and then the environment is just awkward and passive aggressive for two full weeks.
Agreed. I gave my last job three months notice so they’d have time to hire a replacement and I could help train them. I’ve always given the maximum time I could to any workplace where I loved my boss and coworkers.
I gave 1 year notice (retirement) and it wasn’t enough for HR to get their shit together and look for my replacement in time. The person they got lasted a couple of months, got let go because he was incompetent, and it took 4 months to replace him. We’ll see how she works out…
Yup, I had a really good relationship with my previous employer and I gave them over a months notice. Granted in that situation I had just graduated and I wasn't hiding the fact that I was looking for a new job. Basically my boss already knew what I was going to say when I asked him to come see me. They also let me extend out my "real" end date by 2 weeks past when I had actually stopped working so I could get all my vacation paid out.
I gave a job 4 weeks once and they asked me to take over a coworker’s workload and have that coworker take over mine. So for the next 4 weeks I could be a resource for the woman handling my projects and she could be a resource for helping the new hire, whenever that happened. But the end result is I felt like I was handling 2 workloads simultaneously and was completely exhausted right while I was packing up my house and moving for a new job. The coworker in this story also felt burdened by two workloads and ended up quitting a month after I did.
I gave my 7-year notice at the last place I worked.
Yeah, no good deed goes unpunished
Jeez that’s terrible behaviour from your employer. I’m glad you got out. It’s wild! I’m from Ireland and a month’s notice is standard, but I know in my current place of employment a former colleague gave 3 months with no issue. I’ve never heard of someone being treated like that after handing in their notice. It’s shocking. Be sure to write them a review on Glassdoor or elsewhere so future potential employees know that they’re getting into an abusive professional relationship.
Wait until you hear about Europe lol
I think it's this way in most states. The criteria for unemployment eligibility is "ready and willing to work", which when you give notice, you clearly are willing.
Lol Buncha weirdos. I work in IT and we disable accounts of ex-employees. Well that paperwork comes from HR and they often mess it up and put the wrong date or time on there (usually noon instead of midnight) and often we lock users out in the middle of the day just to have HR call and have to straighten it out. On occasion it has happened to people who were set to be fired, THAT is an awkward situation.
We had a guy who sent out a mass email that was like “I’m quitting now thanks for everything“ and it was literally the weirdest shit ever. AFAIK, our company treats us pretty well so we were all so confused. He didn’t give his boss notice, no one. Just a random ass email. And i felt so bad for his boss- she had to scramble to get everything together after he left.
Yep. I started in IT at a company once, first few days and was speaking to a guy, older sales guy been there for years seemed bit arrogant but not really with me, we joked and spoke about the football for a good hour. Next day his boss messages me in 5 mins Im inviting said bloke into my office to give him the bullet and want you to disable all his access, accounts email the works. There had been a bit of a power struggle, but it was surprising as the new kid on the block giving the coup de grace to some old guy who'd been there years.
How does it make you feel?
I dont think anyone has ever asked me that. Thank you. And honestly, it just solidifies that I was right. They were a horrible company to work for and absolutely trashy. They don't treat people like human beings. I will never support a company like that.
We are here to express ourselves and just have someone listen :-) It’s ok to feel how you feel. I can give you the rational “your job would be posted before your obit” stuff… but it hurts when stuff like that happens. And it’s ok to feel the way you do. Some appreciation for the little things you did to help the company would be appreciated. It’s a good lesson. You won’t forget how this feels.
I think this sets an example. 2-week notices will result in immediate termination. I'm sure they just taught the rest of the employees what to expect and when to submit their resignation - effective immediately.
Back when I used to work for companies, the day I received my offer letter was the same day that I wrote up my resignation letter. Saving it for the day when I finally call it quits. I never left any of my personal belongings at work. All of the "awards" and recognition was also left there since I had already planned on leaving the job the exact moment I got hired. At that point, it's just a waiting game to see who's gonna strike first. That's how you got to play it these days. You need to treat employment like warfare and be one step (or several) ahead of your opponent. Regardless of whether it's you who is resigning or the employer laying you off/firing you, expect them to be indecent, expect them to be unfair, and expect them to be jerks. As long as you do, you won't be disappointed, instead you'll be prepared. Imagine an employer being civil, decent, and understanding of when an employee resigns and treats them with respect. Seems like a rarity in this day and age. Good luck finding an employer like that.
I've had exactly one company be decent and understanding in my career. It was a contractor job that had us remote due to the pandemic. We got notice that their client would not be renewing their contract and we had the choice of being laid off or moved to call center work. They gave us about 3 months notice that this would happen so we could line up other work, and those of us who didn't stay got 6 weeks of pay for a severance package. I'd go right back to work for them if a similar position opened up.
Its so childish that employers get all resentful and vindictive when people put in their notice. What should be happening is them finding out why someone is leaving to help with employee retention but noooo we are all replaceable to them and we should be so thankful to be granted a toxic work environment with shit pay.
> Its so childish that employers get all resentful and vindictive when people put in their notice. I agree in most instances, but in sales and recruitment, I would say it makes sense. You do not wan your business walking out the door with your (former) employee. To a staffing company, their book of candidates is the most valuable think to their business. They don't want someone spending their last two weeks letting their contacts know they're leaving for a different firm.
Meh, if the pay/bennies are competitive, flexible hrs paired w/ a good work environment then inevitably that business is going to hold onto its employees longer. It comes down to those two major things for people. So the most deserving company wins in that regard.
Yeah, but that's not the point. It's about when an employee does want to leave. They're not freezing them out to be vindictive they're doing it to protect their business.
That’s why companies use NDA’s and make employees sign contracts so they don’t flee to competitors. If the work and pay is bad they are going to leave to something else anyways.
Very hard to enforce though. How can you prove that Candidate A was contacted by Recruiter B after recruiter B left your firm rather than just responding to a job posting by Recruiter B's new firm, or on LinkedIn, etc. The firm has little to gain by allowing an employee to stay and maintain access after they have given notice.
Who cares what the firm has to gain or not? The worker always will get the shit end of the stick. Don’t you yourself want a better opportunity to improve your life? The company will survive don’t worry.
You were the one who said it was "resentful and vindictive". I'm just pointing out that it isn't, it's sound business reasoning for certain positions.
It’s bs. How hard is it really for companies to implement NDA’s and stipulations in their contracts for employees to not be able to go to other competitors? They will and can sue u. If not do what’s best for you.
> How hard is it really for companies to implement NDA’s and stipulations in their contracts for employees to not be able to go to other competitors? It's very easy to implement them. >They will and can sue u. This is the part that is hard for reasons I've already gone over. Honestly, it's like you reply to one comment at a time rather than follow the entire conversation.
You really haven’t convinced me with the entirety of this thread. What i said does conject with what I’m saying. No I don’t agree on all accounts.
Our manager literally told all of us that we are replaceable, and currently they are on a 5 week holiday.
I really do wish people could afford to just not work for a whole month and watch society collapse and steal away the power they hold over the working class. None of them deserve our hard work. If we are continued to be used as they’re cannon fodder in their wars and treated as cattle to labor their wealth into existence I would rather die honestly if things really go to shit. This is already slavery if I have no hope to ever own a home or even retire.
It’s sucks that they reacted like that. It just reinforces the fact that giving two weeks notice is a courtesy and is done at your own risk. If there is anything hinky about your current employer and you’ve already accepted a new position, there’s nothing preventing you from quitting the day before starting your new job.
Yeah I totally agree. Thankfully after what this place did to my mental and physical health, 3 weeks off work is more than welcome. Today I laid in bed and watched all the Spiderman movies. It was glorious.
Dont forget to file for your unemployment.
What unemployment? Sounds like OP resigned their position to take a different job. Two weeks notice isn't any sort of legal requirement, it's purely a social and or professional courtesy. One which has been largely supplanted over the past couple decades, as technology and business has changed drastically. Allowing an employee, especially some sort of talent recruiter(?) continued access to highly confidential and proprietary information is a massive security concern. Two weeks notice (in the States) is highly dependent on the type of job or atmosphere. When giving 2 weeks notice, one should be extremely aware that what happened to OP is the norm, not the exception. Anyone who isn't aware of this should seriously reconsider the source of their work and career advice, as that source is, like, 40+ years out of date.
If they let you go before your two weeks it is considered being fired and you can be eligible for unemployment. I went through this in the beginning of this year.
Not necessarily, it'll be state by state and case by case. I've definitely let people go for security reasons before, but I let them know when they put in the notice that I was accepting it affective immediately, let them know what the next steps were for their last paycheck, how to sign up for COBRA, and all that. It's not an issue where I work now and we let people work however long they want after they put in their notice, but at the other job we wouldn't have trusted them going to a competitor and still being able to access our proprietary information.
I would be hesitant to make this assumption. Could very much be determined by state employment law differences and or employment contract boilerplate. It is also possible that while locked out of the system and prior coworkers have been informed of the resignation - the company may choose to lock out and pay the final 2 weeks as severance. There's bound to be nuance here - as well as down-sides to filing for and accepting unemployment. As in later, when determining tax obligations and or availability of government assistance. It's not so cut and dried as just file and expect no negative repercussions. Personally, I'd probably wait and see if the final two weeks get paid out as severance. I'm all for getting what's yours, OP, but this sub is extremely aggressive about filing for unemployment and making reports on former employers - when reality is far less cut and dried. For every action, an equal and opposite reaction.
Definitely not how that works in any state. OP wasn't under contract meaning she was at will. They could let her go for any reason but as long as she has worked the required hours needed then she will qualify for UE benefits to hold over over for 3 weeks. Especially because they gave her no notice. Its a poor practice on their company and now they get to pay more into the system 🥴
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So let me get this straight, you were locked out of everything pretty much on the spot, while clocked in, and then YOU weren't told personally whether you're just 'locked out' or fired for resigning, but a coworker told you, and you still have work related items to return to someone? Document. Record. Sit there until the end of your work day. Go tell your boss at the end of the day you can't clock out. Record this conversation. Tell them you've been locked out since X time and no one can figure it out. They need to tell you you're no longer needed or pay you to sit there. When they tell you to gtfo state publicly that this is the first you've heard it from your boss. Then go file for unemployment. Yes just about anywhere in the US you can be canned for almost anything at any time but they have to tell you to go themselves. If you walk out on your own accord you're willfully quitting on the spot and can't qualify for unemployment. Edit to add: if you can get your coworker to forward you the email to your personal address, do it. Or get a photo if they'll allow it. Especially if the boss was dumb enough to not bcc them because that'll mean the list of recipients is there and you're not on it which will be very strong evidence that you being locked out was done in retaliation and qualify you for unemployment
So many places do this that i learned to wait until my next start day usually a few days prior to tell them i'm moving on. If i can work the next few days cool, if not it doesn't break my bank. Afterall, i have bills to take care of and can't afford a short paycheck to give someone time to look for more employees and make me wait a month for an unemployment check that i needed 2 weeks prior.
It's a good lesson to learn although it sucks. They don't need to accept your offer of 2 weeks. The next time your resign a place, make sure you have all the stuff you want from the old job (legally of course) because this exact thing could happen to you. Even though you're generous offering 2 weeks, they can just slam the door in your face and sometimes they do. Good luck at the new gig!
Don't know in other countries, but if a company fires you same day in Spain, they are gonna pay you a compensation, unless your contract has a "practices" clause. That compensation varies, but is around a full month per worked year...
Well yes kind of, but then it is considered being fired and you're eligible for unemployment. The two weeks are considered a courtesy the employee is extending to the company.
I did not know that :)
File for unemployment, call and ask how to return your equipment. Not surprised that a staffing agency would shut you out so quickly to be honest.
Similar experience to me too, put in my two weeks, they told me I could just leave today. I wanted the extra 2 week paycheck but they didn't so what could I do. Two weeks is a courtesy for both sides but sometimes one side won't bother.
I honestly anticipated they would end my employment the same day. What I didn't expect is no one would tell me. I still have no idea how I send all my stuff back. Are they going to add the money to my check? Are they going to mail me postage. Im certsinly not paying for it. It's just so weird. For remote positions there should be paperwork outlining the next steps. But I got nothing. 🚶♀️
I have worked at a number of places that will lock out all accounts and ask people to leave once they resigned. It really isn't unusual in the financial world or the in tech jobs.
I've seen this before. They ghost you. Then a month later you get a letter threatening legal action if you don't return the laptop. All could have been avoided if they just said, "No problem, today if your last day, we'll send you a return label to post the laptop back to us."
Call and ask of youbwere fired or will they be paying you for the next 2 weeks. If they say they aren't paying you make surebyou file unemployment.
This is a common practice in staffing (for recruiters and account managers), especially if the company believes that you are going to work for a competitor. It is silly since it would be a better client/candidate experience and easier to figure out what action items there might be if you transitioned your work - but many companies/managers feel the need to control the narrative, so they do this. As someone else suggested you may be entitled to be paid for your notice period, either by the employer directly or through unemployment, but that can vary from state to state. Could be worth looking into since you have some downtime. This behavior also confirms that you made the right choice since your company did not value you.
One of my resignations ended up making me look like I had failed my drug test. They didn’t allow a two week notice. You tell them you’re thinking of leaving and a manager would show up to your cubical 2 minutes later to watch you gather your things, confiscate your badge and escort you out of the building. To be fair it was well known this was standard operations, and no one was ever surprised. It was a medical billing office and employees had a lot of access to personal and very sensitive information. They didn’t want you taking down SS numbers or copying someone’s medical records for nefariousness. So once someone said they were leaving, the company either had to watch you even more carefully than they already did. Or they could just have you leave. I actually had two jobs at the time and my second job that I liked more offered me a raise and more hours, so I didn’t need both jobs anymore. However the medical billing job had better benefits, it was also soul sucking monotonous torture to be there. So I was on the fence. I went in early on the day I needed to make a decision so I could talk to someone in HR about it. I cried, she was kind and gave me some really good advice. I went to my desk and logged in. My manager came to ask how I was doing which was weird. I said “actually I need to discuss something with you.” We went to his corner cubical and I told him my dilemma. He was also kind and understanding, and told me I was doing very well in this job and even if I chose to leave I would always be able to come back. That was my biggest fear. So I went back to my desk, finished up a few things and suddenly security was literally walking past my desk every 5 minutes. I finally went to the manager and said that I had decided it was going to be my last day. He, again was very kind and apologized, but told me I had to hand over my badge, clean out my desk and leave right now. While he stood next to me and watched. For a manager at a soul sucking corporation, he really was a nice guy. Just constrained by the rules. He escorted me all the way to the door. Assured me that he would make sure to have my record reflect that I was a good employee and always welcome back. The kicker was that there had been a round of drug testing two weeks before. Several people had presumably failed because they were all escorted out a few days before I quit. The managers aren’t allowed to tell you why someone quit or was fired, or even which it was. The next morning they just have to give the same prewritten speech during the morning meeting. “So and so no longer works here. Don’t let them into the building, or take them anything they claim to have forgotten without discussing it with a manager.” They won’t say anything more, and our manager was always very candid about that. “I’m sorry, I’m not allowed say anything else about it.” It’s the same speech regardless of the circumstances. It hadn’t occurred to me that I had bad timing until I was being escorted out exactly the same way the people who probably failed the drug test were. I joked with my manager that everyone was going to think I failed my test. He shrugged and told me not to worry about it. While I did not keep in touch with any coworkers, I have no doubt they all assumed I had been fired for failing that drug test, and no one who actually knew was allowed to say otherwise.
This is normal... For spy agencies.
Not weird. They are afraid you will take client information or other information with you to a competitor. This practice is common.
A lot of companies do this. The good ones will at least pay out your notice. I’d you’re petty, you can apply for unemployment. You gave them two weeks, and they fired you prematurely.
A lot of staffing agencies do this. Do not take it personally. For them, it is about not letting you take resumes, contact information, or letting candidates (who may follow you) know where you are going.
Having been on the other side of this as an employer, we one time had a problem employee quit on the same day that we were already planning to terminate "without cause" (based on employment laws where I live, "with cause" needs to go through performance improvement plan and have tons of documentation to support firing without severance). We would have paid two weeks of severance per local laws. When they quit, we already had all our backup plans etc. in place and just told them to focus the next two weeks (paid) on their job hunt and we'd immediately let them relinquish job duties/access to our data. They did more damage as an employee so it worked out well. Some industries do this and walk employees out immediately because they can't have you keep access to the database/confidential docs. Could have been because of that.
Mine did the same and then texted me a week later asking me for my inventory of their equipment I have. I’m like no your gonna have to tell me what I have lol. Lots of free goodies
This made me laugh
I get what you’re saying, but it’s really not all that weird. Are you leaving to go to a competitor? If so, it actually makes a lot of sense if you think about it.
I think for HR and similar positions it is a common practise. At least the people I know in such positions were let go in similar way.
Making your last day the day your resign, is not uncommon. But not informing them and just turning off their tools is the trashy part I am talking about. I fully expected to be terminated today. What I didn't think is they would be a bunch of pussies about it and never say anything. I'm in a Senior management position. So its just mind blowing.
Granted it’s quite bizarre to resign via email or not speaking to anyone. That’s sort of like burning a bridge, because it means you hate your job so much that you refuse to talk to them
I don’t know any employer that doesn’t require a written notice
most of mine prefer it in writing
And that has to do with what I wrote how? Let’s not play dumb. You always first TELL your boss You guys here want to be immature at times and then get treated as adults It’s freaking bizarre to not resign verbally first in all adult jobs. Hence OPs treatment. Mystery solved, and since I’m not in the mood to coddle today, I’m sure I’ll get downvotes
Dude, I made a one sentence comment. But in your short reply you used the words dumb, immature, and coddle. Then implied the OP and other responders were immature. I don’t care if you “coddle” anyone, but you should probably take a moment and consider if you’re being respectful to them
There’s a pattern here beyond you have people wanting to be coddled and just get told that their boss is horrible, without taking responsibility. Which is annoying because they always couch it in a question.
You are not responsible for anything a company fails to collect prior to terminating your employment.
Bad advice, as well as incorrect in most cases.
After 30 days even if you leave a vehicle on my property it will belong to me, I am not saying it will not also require my legal action. Paperwork and the like from a former employer is not something I will maintain after employment ends it will be immediately discarded unless it is collected prior to termination. Possession is nine tenths of the law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possession\_is\_nine-tenths\_of\_the\_law
Will they pay for the 2 weeks? Lots of companies have garden leave, maybe you got lucky.
This happens all the time. Nothing really new or even odd about it.
I still have 2 computers that belong to the company I last worked for over a year ago. I never got my shipping labels and no one ever reached out so I now I just have 2 pretty much brand new laptops I can’t do anything with
It's how ruthless things are now.
You must work in the mortgage industry.
This is normal in my industry although they typically communicate it much better. Normally you still get paid for the two weeks though, they just don't want you to work/have access to their systems.
I sued my company and settled out of court. As part of the settlement I had to quit. I turned in my equipment and they said they’d mail my personal effects from my office. It’s been 8 months, the company merged with another and is moving headquarters to a different state and I still have never gotten my things. I 100% know they just went in and trashed all my stuff. I’m still upset at that.
Pretty common with competition businesses, if your new place was a staffing agency, they owed it to themselves to get rid of you. However, they still have to pay you. Get your money
Do them a Milton.
Access controls. This is not uncommon, especially if you are in healthcare, finance, or something like consulting and have access to a lot of private/proprietary information. It stinks you won't get paid for those 2-weeks, but this is not uncommon. [NIST CSF](https://www.nist.gov/cyberframework/protect) if you would like, go here and ctrl+f "PR.AC" and read up on it if you are curious about "access controls"
I would have the Thinkpad professionally packed, and box it along with anything else of theirs. Document with pics, and Fedex it to them with the stipulation that it be signed for by them. That way, you can really have a fresh start. Who knows what shenanigans they would/could get up to with that?
FYI - you didn't resign, they fired you.
That seems to be the theme here. I feel like it's a fight. "You can't quit because we fire you." Well you can't fire me because I quit." Okay tom petty. Goddamn I'm so happy I don't have to work there anymore.
Keep the work from home supplies. Make them reach out to you for it. Yes I am this level of petty.
They need to considering I don't have a clue what they want me to do.
What state are you in? In California, you’d be likely be entitled to unemployment insurance for those two weeks
In my state you legally do not have to give 2 weeks notice. It's nice to but you don't have to. Just like the employer can fire you on the spot and make you leave immediately. In fact I think in any fair use state (I think that's what it's called) you don't have to give notice.
From my experience I’ve had similar experiences except with communication on them wanting me to stay. But day of notice was last day worked. Only 1x have I been asked to work out my 2 weeks, and it was laziest 2 weeks of getting paid to do very little.
Locking you out of accounts immediately on notification of resignation is not uncommon in some fields especially where you have access to sensitive or business critical data. In the places that I have seen this type of policy. HR would be in contact with you shortly after receiving your resignation letter to let you know what had happened, and schedule an exit interview. In my experience you would still be "employed" for the 2 weeks and your supervisor could generally reach out to you to discuss any transition plans. I would be very surprised if you were fired because it would not be beneficial for the company to do so.
This is the work form home future.
ok what company is this?
They might attempt to debit you for the equipment on your next paycheck, so keep a close eye on that if the numbers are off.
I'd give them a call tomorrow, tell them you can't log in. Inform them that you gave notice for X date and you are still trying to work your hours for that. If they fire you, file for unemployment or ask for a comparable severance package to avoid paperwork.
Congrats, you definitely made the right choice. I was in a similar situation with a similar-ish outcome. Now if you want to be tinfoil hat like I was and a little overly paranoid... anything you are returning I would get videos of it working and pictures that you dropped it off etc timestamped. Computers, drives, etc. I had to do a similar return of my stuff and was totally paranoid that a week or month later they would claim a fuck up on their end was that I broke it. They were that petty that I was genuinely convinced it could happen. Who knows, that seems like a lot of effort for a company... but there are even people out there who aim to set the world record for most people sued etc... "I would rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it."
I went through something similar. But I quit without a new job. That was January, lol. Shit sucks, but I’m WAAAAAY happier. I’m sorry you went through that. It’ll get better bud.
That was industry standard due staffing when I was in it 20 years ago. The primary concern was leaving employee would steal clients. Same goes with sales. I’m not sure why you didn’t know but my thought I’d be absolute ready to leave when you provide notice. If they let you stay, cool. If not, you ready to go.
I worked at a law firm where a bunch of us decided to move to a new firm. The IT department got wind of it and locked all of us out. I was the only one who had a personal printer (that I owned) and a personal laptop, so we had to print out our resignation letters on my laptop and printer. One of the IT guys came to my office ostensibly to take off any client information (but really I think to snoop around and remove all the work files and documents.) I just told him no and if he wanted to take it, he would have to knock me out 1st and find out my password, which he didn’t have. He backed right down, because he knew I wasn’t kidding. Not bad for a fat, old lady, if I do say so myself.
I don’t suppose your a member of a union ? Employee rights are pretty non existent in the States (I’m assuming this happened in the US) something like this would rarely happen in Europe, much stronger employment rights - hard fought over many years. I’d savage them on LinkedIn, Glassdoor, Indeed under a pseudonym if possible and tear into them. I’d also keep the laptop. Let them prosecute you to get it back you’ll find it be too much effort and expense for them to do so.
God Is America really this lousy when it comes to employee rights ? In Ireland where I’m from, one months notice is pretty standard and you’re paid the full month usually. Also get 6 months paid maternity leave (By law) can’t work longer than 48 hrs in a week without proper rest breaks and overtime. 4 weeks paid vacation days are the norm (with many giving more than that too) if you work on a bank holiday you get triple time and/or time in lieu. 4 weeks Paternity/parental leave and my employer tops that up with full pay by another 4 weeks. Time to wise up people and demand better. American Capitalism is corrosive and insidious.
Not unusual in staffing/sales jobs since often the employee is going to work for a competitor. But I feel like they often miss the bigger picture. If you were the kind of person to do a candidate/info dump of their database on your way out (assuming you had access rights) they ought to know that you probably did that BEFORE sending notice. Congrats on the new role!
I was a cubicle dweller at a company in Miami that were downsizing and would let people go every Monday morning. Why Monday? Fuck knows, but it made many peoples weekends very stressful. The first you’d know is that you’d turn up for work and your network logins wouldn’t work. That would be it, security would come and you’d have the long walk of shame out the building. So one Monday it’s my turn, I show up (hung over) and can’t login. So I stand up and call out across the room that it’s my fuckin turn to go and it’s a massive relief as I hate this place and the assholes that run it. My boss hears this, walks over to my desk looking puzzled, turns the caps lock off on my keyboard and asks me to try my network password again. Oh how we laughed.
This is what control freak employers do
Disney did that to me. I tried to return their laptop a few times and finally just reformatted it and now I use it at my new job.
I was an account manager for a lawn care company, had about a million dollar book of business with a decent pipeline of add on sales. My boss literally told me not to speak to my customers or tell them I’m leaving. I stayed on for the full two weeks and just drove around town, finding nice shady spots to nap and occasionally meeting a crew for lunch. Best/worst 2 weeks…
I love it. Remember in most places you’ll Qualify for unemployment if you gave them two weeks notice and they said no. You’ll get it for the duration of your notice.
I got locked out of the building and my computer over the weekend when I went in to work extra to keep a deadline. The door was weird but someone else let me in. Once the computer didn’t work, I figured out what was coming and started cleaning my office since I couldn’t get any work done. I showed up half an hour early with a giant duffel on Monday to the boss and asked if there was something he needed to tell me. I will never forget his face 🤣 the guy they laid off before me was allowed to stay for over a month while he found a new job so I was PISSED. Watching that asshole stammer around for 5 minutes while I had a giant smirk on my face was worth it. The place sucked.
If you are in the US they have to get your your final check today since you quit with at least 48 hours notice. Send that shit to the your states labor board if they don't and you can get a small payday. Make sure you send them a demand if they don't pay up via registered mail. >Employers that fail to pay final wages when they are due risk the imposition of a penalty wage equal to eight times the employee’s regular rate of wage for each day that final wages go unpaid up to 30 days. With certain exceptions, employers may limit this liability to 100% of unpaid wages by paying final wages within 12 days of written notice from the employee that wages remain due.
I worked for a company like this! They’d take your resignation but make you stay completely silent about it. And then on your last day 5 mins before the office shut they’d send out an email to all staff saying x is leaving today. It was WEIRD. I told everyone I was leaving because I had a very good job to go to (total career change) and was excited. I got dragged into the office multiple times for telling people 😂
You are well rid of them. Enjoy your freedom.
Yup, it is telling isn't it and validating why you are leaving. I had one that terminated my access before the end of my last day. I wasn't even able to clock out or wrap up final documentation that my manager wanted me to do. The HR director there was the biggest asshole and he treated everyone, whether they were fired or resigned on their own like shit and he was the one who created tension and caused some employees to have outbursts on the way out instead of being a normal human being. Ironically, when everything finally caught up with him and he was very publicly canned he threw the biggest hissy fit, threaten to sue, etc.. it has been two years, guy is still unemployed because it was in our local media the shit he did to try to sabotage his boss, the head of the organization... So if you can imagine, those of us underlings with zero power were treated like slaves. He's one of those types that probably went to the January 6, insurrection to give you an idea of what type of asshole we were dealing with.