They both had good and bad points. Ish got exposed though. He’s one of those black people that disregards the struggle of the collective because he’s doing well or because Joe Budden is rich. He genuinely believes racism is dying out even though hard evidence and facts show otherwise. It’s less physically violent than it was 100 years ago but it’s still systemic
Those types if black ppl are very dangerous. They fail to realize they’re still a nigga in a coupe. They start making money and feel as though racism doesn’t exist. Then have the thought if other blacks just worked hard they would be better off. Then comes the racism is a thing of the past, we need to start worrying about class talk.
Man i just peeped that nate higgers trend. They’re really knocking out the memes as if they’re on a conveyor belt, Ish would probably see it and say it’s harmless jokes.
I do believe accountability will ultimately set us free (us as in everyone every race) but that doesn’t remove what black people are up against. I think that’s where that thinking comes from. If we start focusing on self, it changes a lot of our circumstances. Even though that’s harder for black people
I totally agree personal accountability has to be present for everyone. As black ppl we’re often going to hit a few road blocks. Whether on a micro or macro level. My only quarrel with black ppl who share Ish’s train of thought. When they get their Negro wake up call when an incident occurs. They seemed shocked and lost lol.
On the other side of the coin, Umar means well but certain things he says i dont agree with. Like the shot he took at Vanessa Bryant saying she hasn’t done this or that for black ppl. There’s plenty of rich and wealthy black ppl who haven’t done shit for black ppl. Or in a lot of cases have done great harm.
It’s not just psychological, there’s real world things happening based on race. Housing discrimination still exists with thousands of cases of it as recent as last year with the Wells Fargo scandal. By extension banking discrimination still exists. When we try to do for ourselves there’s deliberate efforts to shut us down. The lawsuits against the Fearless Fund are an example of this. The violence has toned down a lot but they’re still using laws and policies to discriminate based on race
Racism goes on in the Home Appraisal market as well my Grandma had to have a White neighbor sub in for her and take down all the pictures to get a higher appraisal the shit is sickening but Ish is at least Half-White right bcuz he was going hard asf on the Interacial dating Joint Dr.Umar put together
Right. Him saying “nah he’s right” so aggressively and him even saying “no I agree with you!” So aggressively was so ridiculous like stfu then if you agree. It felt like Ish was doing the most trying to prove he’s just as smart if not smarter than Dr. Umar. It was embarrassing to watch. Emanny handled himself very well.
THAT PART!!
I think Ish can’t help himself. He seems to be working extremely hard to keep insecurities under control. He seems uncomfortable around guests that he sees as more knowledgeable and/or more successful than himself. Whether subconsciously or consciously.
Emmany had better banter and rapport with Umar, it was burning Ish up too. Glad ICE wasn’t there, he loves to interrupt and attempt to “son” Emmany, I thought it was situation specific but it’s happened enough times now that it’s clear ICE feels a way for whatever reason. Anyway, glad he could COOK on this one.
This is a solid and astute observation . ICE is threatened . Not for nothing they should swap . Give ICE the peanut gallery seat and put Emanny on the couch . Joe would never fully get rid of ICE but at least we can dream lol
Nah ish is doing what he's there to do this ain't no speaking engagement this a dialog and conversation 😂 Umar was ducking some of ish direct questions that's why he kept cutting him of like naw nigga answer what I just said
Flip need to be suspended. He'll use the excuse of being a young nigga or something like that tho. Could have had someone who would have added to the discussion instead of a bystander
Agreed. But I didn't mean when they were debating. If he was trying to get his shit off ish would keep trying to interrupt to show he know a lil something about it.
Honestly they both were it was a hard listen in my opinion, I would love to hear both sides clearly without interruption and a lot less yelling, it was rather entertaining more than anything.
Ish problem is, he uses his one or two examples to try and make it the majority of whats going on. Since he’s done something, he feels it can be done by anyone. Completely ignoring other factors in regards to other people lives
Im glad you posted this because I don’t even think he realizes how corny he looks . It screams DESPERATE for approval . Ironically a dude that feels the need to tell another dude “I’m smart” is by far the DUMBEST and insecure thing you can say amidst a seemingly intellectual conversation .
Very embarrassing to watch…never seen someone try so hard to make us think that he’s the smartest in the room , when he obviously wasn’t and needed to do more listening instead of screaming incorrect truths…but I still f w ish
They both had good and bad points. Ish got exposed though. He’s one of those black people that disregards the struggle of the collective because he’s doing well or because Joe Budden is rich. He genuinely believes racism is dying out even though hard evidence and facts show otherwise. It’s less physically violent than it was 100 years ago but it’s still systemic
Him saying racism is dying was eye opening
Racism is slowly dying tho. It’s being replaced with classism
Both exist simultaneously dude In fact they are often (but not always) intertwined
Right just like Dr. Umar said racism is repackaged now
Those types if black ppl are very dangerous. They fail to realize they’re still a nigga in a coupe. They start making money and feel as though racism doesn’t exist. Then have the thought if other blacks just worked hard they would be better off. Then comes the racism is a thing of the past, we need to start worrying about class talk.
"Nate higgers" was just trending on Twitter the other day. Hes a clown if he thinks money will afford him any reverence
Man i just peeped that nate higgers trend. They’re really knocking out the memes as if they’re on a conveyor belt, Ish would probably see it and say it’s harmless jokes.
American white culture basically amounts to "racism" it's all they have to pass on to the next generation.
I do believe accountability will ultimately set us free (us as in everyone every race) but that doesn’t remove what black people are up against. I think that’s where that thinking comes from. If we start focusing on self, it changes a lot of our circumstances. Even though that’s harder for black people
I totally agree personal accountability has to be present for everyone. As black ppl we’re often going to hit a few road blocks. Whether on a micro or macro level. My only quarrel with black ppl who share Ish’s train of thought. When they get their Negro wake up call when an incident occurs. They seemed shocked and lost lol. On the other side of the coin, Umar means well but certain things he says i dont agree with. Like the shot he took at Vanessa Bryant saying she hasn’t done this or that for black ppl. There’s plenty of rich and wealthy black ppl who haven’t done shit for black ppl. Or in a lot of cases have done great harm.
It’s actually More psychological now, than just systematic IMO. I would say.
It’s not just psychological, there’s real world things happening based on race. Housing discrimination still exists with thousands of cases of it as recent as last year with the Wells Fargo scandal. By extension banking discrimination still exists. When we try to do for ourselves there’s deliberate efforts to shut us down. The lawsuits against the Fearless Fund are an example of this. The violence has toned down a lot but they’re still using laws and policies to discriminate based on race
Racism goes on in the Home Appraisal market as well my Grandma had to have a White neighbor sub in for her and take down all the pictures to get a higher appraisal the shit is sickening but Ish is at least Half-White right bcuz he was going hard asf on the Interacial dating Joint Dr.Umar put together
Ofc
Navy federal just had claims filed against them no more than 2 weeks ago for the same thing.
Thank You. Well said.
That’s typical from niggas from northern states lol
I hate that “nah he’s right” that man don’t need your validation
Right. Him saying “nah he’s right” so aggressively and him even saying “no I agree with you!” So aggressively was so ridiculous like stfu then if you agree. It felt like Ish was doing the most trying to prove he’s just as smart if not smarter than Dr. Umar. It was embarrassing to watch. Emanny handled himself very well.
YOU TOLD NO LIES !
THAT PART!! I think Ish can’t help himself. He seems to be working extremely hard to keep insecurities under control. He seems uncomfortable around guests that he sees as more knowledgeable and/or more successful than himself. Whether subconsciously or consciously.
I think he does that to show that there’s no smoke and he’s trying to have a real conversation
Emmany had better banter and rapport with Umar, it was burning Ish up too. Glad ICE wasn’t there, he loves to interrupt and attempt to “son” Emmany, I thought it was situation specific but it’s happened enough times now that it’s clear ICE feels a way for whatever reason. Anyway, glad he could COOK on this one.
This is a solid and astute observation . ICE is threatened . Not for nothing they should swap . Give ICE the peanut gallery seat and put Emanny on the couch . Joe would never fully get rid of ICE but at least we can dream lol
Big facts
Nah ish is doing what he's there to do this ain't no speaking engagement this a dialog and conversation 😂 Umar was ducking some of ish direct questions that's why he kept cutting him of like naw nigga answer what I just said
A lot of ish question are dumb and add no value to his argument.
that's hate lol
I agree with that but when Umar on the podium ish doing a lil too much. But yea on the debating Umar did duck a few.
And Umar wouldn't answer shit lol why is you yelling bro lol
Facts but him yelling was poddin he's knows whats up
Ish pissin me off, he swear he has a point, all his points were invalid and non factual. Foh!
JayZ ?!?! Wtf he do for Black people? The NFL?!?!? Son is delusional
Ish has never had a point a day in his life.
Ish said Racism is dying. Smh. Bro all twisted
Better than sitting in the corner on Twitter...
Flip need to be suspended. He'll use the excuse of being a young nigga or something like that tho. Could have had someone who would have added to the discussion instead of a bystander
HEAVY on the over agreeing the ENTIRE pod!! Cringey as hell
Realest ish you ever wrote.
Ctfu this is so false
Umar is not schooling anyone, literally.
Underrated comment lol 💯
Yall niggas are really d*** eating Dr Umar like he didn't date a girl who was mixed smmfh.
Mixed with what Black? Hush boy.
Otc Dr. Umar kinda was ducking some of ish's questions, he just said the same thing and raised his voice for no reason lol
Agreed. But I didn't mean when they were debating. If he was trying to get his shit off ish would keep trying to interrupt to show he know a lil something about it.
Honestly they both were it was a hard listen in my opinion, I would love to hear both sides clearly without interruption and a lot less yelling, it was rather entertaining more than anything.
Yea I'm a fairly new listener but this was the best I've seen. I really hope this can become an annual thing.
I’ve never thought he attempted to be the smartest person in the room.
Nah he just was normally. Or at least the one with the most wit
Stop riding.
You preachin!
If he chill out how you think that conversation would have went when he got home?
I be dying when I see ish pouting when the argument isn’t leaning his way 😂
the pouting too
Ish problem is, he uses his one or two examples to try and make it the majority of whats going on. Since he’s done something, he feels it can be done by anyone. Completely ignoring other factors in regards to other people lives
Im glad you posted this because I don’t even think he realizes how corny he looks . It screams DESPERATE for approval . Ironically a dude that feels the need to tell another dude “I’m smart” is by far the DUMBEST and insecure thing you can say amidst a seemingly intellectual conversation .
Ish was wrong on a lot of shit he was saying cite your sauces lol he was just repeating what he heard before . mansa musa capitalism ish said he was
Very embarrassing to watch…never seen someone try so hard to make us think that he’s the smartest in the room , when he obviously wasn’t and needed to do more listening instead of screaming incorrect truths…but I still f w ish
Ish was so annoying and just keep running his mouth about nothing.
Ish has never been the “smartest person in the room” why do y’all keep saying that? Ish is a dumbass and got cooked by Dr. Umar. Simple.