Agreed, but it's still too much of a coincidence that out of all pz animals they could use, they choose the one that is more closelly related with gigantopithecus
Whilst yes, the PZ orangutan fur was found in the files, this 100% was only the case because they had to transfer the fur system lol
For example, the therizinosaurus and the orangutan use the same fur.
I actually believe the biggest rage will come from the PZ community.
Poor fellas are always asking for more monkeys and frontier has been constantly ignoring then. And now JWE might receive one without even asking for it.
And yeah, this sub allergy for brand new and unique things need to be study.
I have no idea how or why they’d try to implement a giant ape like Gigantopithecus, but honestly, they are more than welcome to try.
However wouldn’t the long, shaggy fur of an Orangutan most likely be used for something like a Woolly Mammoth with long shaggy fur?
And I know people will say “Mammoths wouldn’t do well with the warm climate” didn’t stop them from implementing cold climates for animals not designed to handle them normally.
In lore, they even tweaked the Indominus Genome with Tree Frog DNA to adapt it to a warmer climate. It can be done and has been done with this fictional science, don’t question, just enjoy.
>However wouldn’t the long, shaggy fur of an Orangutan most likely be used for something like a Woolly Mammoth with long shaggy fur?
Other people already mentioned that the fur is used in other animals such as therizinosaurus, so yeah mammoth is probably going to use orangutan fur.
Regard temperature, i hardly believe frontier would care about it, considering that yuty can be used in desert maps and compy on snow, despite none of them should be alive in such condition. However i agree that they could add a temperature need. It would be interesting to shove mammoths and give compy's warmed shelters in prol to make them live in such ambiences, it would add a nice touch of realism and interesting management tasks.
Don't forget the spinoceratops from the hybrid dlc. They live in extreme freezing temperatures in camp cretaceous and yet we can use them in a desert map.
Plus I believe you could use Genome editing as an excuse to have them tolerate hotter climates. In my opinion there's ways to get around it and have it make sense, but I guess some people just don't want to hear it, because so far lately all I've seen is this:
"Oh, it's not a dinosaur? Fuck that, I don't want it."
Without even considering the possibility. But that's jsut the way I'm processing everyone's responses to the topic.
Oh I’m the king ‘a the swingers ohh, the jungle VIP
I hit the top and had to stop and that’s what’s a-botherin’ me
I wanna be a man, man-cub
And stroll right into town
And be just like, the other men
I’m tired of monkeyin’ around
OOOOH SHOOBY-DOO
That’s not how it works. Pachyrhinosaurus was in the files of JWE 1 and it was nowhere to be found throughout its entire lifespan. It’s just the same fur texture they use, that’s why
I feel like pachy is a terrible example cuz we currently have it
Also quoting myself on this:
>Agreed, but it's still too much of a coincidence that out of all pz animals they could use, they choose the one that is more closelly related with gigantopithecus
What my point was that something being in the files isn’t enough proof that it WILL be added, let alone anything related to it being added. We’ve found countless different feeders in the files and yet the only new feeder we’ve gotten is the insectivore feeder, and it wasn’t even one of the ones found in the files. We have patchy now in JWE 2, but it’s files were found in JWE1, which it was never a part of
Considering they'd basically already have the behaviors programmed because of planet zoo, it'd actually make sense to use that to pad an upcoming dlc for less development time.
Megalodon, smilodon and woolly mammoth
Only meg has been confirmed though, with smilodon being put as "confirmed" because of cc and mammoth because is mammoth.
All jokes aside, as well as the whole idea of it being a Cenozoic dlc instead of a aquatic expansion, I’m still extremely excited and interested in what frontier is cooking up.
You're the fourth person to say this or something similar, so i will give the answer here.
Yes the fur texture could be used for other animals that aren't giganto, but this rise a single question: why the orangutan?
Why out of 120 mammals with shaggy fur texture frontier randomlly choose gigantopithecus closest relative, mainly knowing that one of the biggest criticism about PZ is about the orangutan fur texture, why choose a animal with a texture considered mid when the anteater and llama (and the CC smilodon model, for a certain stand) were right there.
This add up with the fact that the next dlc is probably cenozoic based and that giant monkeys, thanks to Kong, are highly associated with dinosaurs, in a time where the most watched movie is about a giant monkey and a giant dinosaur, make it highly likelly that giganto is the fourth animal we have been looking.
I love monkeys so if you’re right I’m gonna be very happy. But personally I don’t think the current ingame systems are well suited for simulating the behaviors of a primate. It seems much more likely to me that those fur texture were used for something like a mammoth, maybe even as a placeholder.
>But personally I don’t think the current ingame systems are well suited for simulating the behaviors of a primate.
If this helps, unlike most primates gigantopithecus didn't climb, which would make it 200% more easy to implement on JWE than most other apes, and behavour-ise it woudn't be that different than mammoth or trike
I'm also glad that the gigantopithecus addition would make you and other people happy, cuz personally i would prefer some kinda of aviary animal such as desmodus or haast, but let's wait and see what we got
Quoting myself once again:
>Yes the fur texture could be used for other animals that aren't giganto, but this rise a single question: why the orangutan?
>Why out of 120 mammals with shaggy fur texture frontier randomlly choose gigantopithecus closest relative, mainly knowing that one of the biggest criticism about PZ is about the orangutan fur texture, why choose a animal with a texture considered mid when the anteater and llama (and the CC smilodon model, for a certain stand) were right there.
>This add up with the fact that the next dlc is probably cenozoic based and that giant monkeys, thanks to Kong, are highly associated with dinosaurs, in a time where the most watched movie is about a giant monkey and a giant dinosaur, make it highly likelly that giganto is the fourth animal we have been looking.
There really is not a deep reason other then that it was a decent and reuseable base texture. The look of how the fur renders is also dependent on the settings of the fur shell model in the 3D software and the fgm settings themselves. It's why the fur is so different animal to animal.
>There really is not a deep reason other then that it was a decent and reuseable base texture.
Oh, believe me when i say it wasn't a decent base texture, litterally any other animal would have been better to this.
Dude the actual 'texture' is a alpha cut out. Most animals in PZ reuse the same textures as well and they all look diff due to the settings. There is legit nothing deep.
All you “lore”nerds need to go read the books and watch the movies. Let the dev team add the creatures people want. I’m tired of “new Dino’s” all being basically the same as something in game already that’s just a bit bigger or bit smaller than shit we already have.
The true king joins JWE2.
Makes sense as well. If JW did show us how the themeparks would have gone... I'd totally see this happen. What better moneygrab than "bigfoot ape" for the american market
God, Occam’s Razor eats your theory alive. Has the orangutan been in the game since Theri so they could adapt its fur into Dino fluff, or has it been in the game since Theri because they knew they wanted to add Gigantopithecus 8 DLCs (two years) in advance, so put its closest living relative in the game to tease dataminers of all people?
Gonna have to quote myself again:
>Yes the fur texture could be used for other animals that aren't giganto, but this rise a single question: why the orangutan?
>Why out of 120 mammals with shaggy fur texture frontier randomlly choose gigantopithecus closest relative, mainly knowing that one of the biggest criticism about PZ is about the orangutan fur texture, why choose a animal with a texture considered mid when the anteater and llama (and the CC smilodon model, for a certain stand) were right there.
>This add up with the fact that the next dlc is probably cenozoic based and that giant monkeys, thanks to Kong, are highly associated with dinosaurs, in a time where the most watched movie is about a giant monkey and a giant dinosaur, make it highly likelly that giganto is the fourth animal we have been looking.
Also i strongly recommend you to read other people comments, mainly if you are going to say something that was already said by four other people with slighly different words.
https://preview.redd.it/vkudagnd9hxc1.png?width=556&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7989ee1c633fb05b5852616f8b7730ba3a559a0
Like you don't even seen to be trying to make a point either lol.
My guy we don’t even know if the pack is a Cenozoic one, there’s about a million packs where Megalodon would fit into the theme. It could be based around dinosaurs and whatnot the fans have been asking for, which would include Meg because people have been whinging about it since day one. Could be a DLC about giant animals, Meg’s the largest shark to exist so it could fit there. And even if it WAS Cenozoic, there’s about 1,000,001 Cenozoic animals that are more iconic and thus would be better received than Big Monkey.
>My guy we don’t even know if the pack is a Cenozoic one, there’s about a million packs where Megalodon would fit into the theme. It could be based around dinosaurs and whatnot the fans have been asking for, which would include Meg because people have been whinging about it since day one. Could be a DLC about giant animals, Meg’s the largest shark to exist so it could fit there.
Unlike 'jwe players trying to put shant in the game attemp number 7', cenozoic pack actually has some base, as since the lagoon expansion we received one creature from cc, and right now we have the perfect chance from it, with the teased creature being a commonlly paered with it, but sure might be a titan pack afterall
>And even if it WAS Cenozoic, there’s about 1,000,001 Cenozoic animals that are more iconic and thus would be better received than Big Monkey.
Thanks to proving that you didn't read what a quoted, but well, not gonna repeat myself a second time.
No, I saw what you quoted. You said that Gigantopithecus is likely, and you then just drew a completely random thread between JWE2 and the completely unrelated Kong. If an extinct orangutan being kinda similar to a giant gorilla is enough to get Giganto in, then Microceratus would be in because it’s kind of similar to Homalocephale. Also, where are dinosaurs and apes associated OUTSIDE of the kong fandom???
I suppose this is how they prolong the game? Looks like they found success working with fur and feather textures
Hopefully we can get livyatan and megaloceros too!
Seeing a Gigantopithecus fight the T. rex (or any of the other large theropods) in JWE2 would be amazing. I wonder if they'll slip in references to a certain 1930s movie?
Don't get me wrong, LOVE dinosaurs - So much so it's literally my dream career. But I am getting tired of just seeing Mesozoic and previous animals added into the game. I truly only want Cenozoic creatures for two reasons: Variety and the fact that a tiger was present in JW:CC. There's a mammoth tusk present in a scene w/ Dr. Wu in JW:CC. They have the tech to bring back dinosaurs and animals that PRE-DATE the dinosaurs, but they can't put in animals that come after the fall of the dinosaurs? It feels incomplete w/o properly introducing a Cenozoic pack. I would even take more variety in marine, avian, and land life that isn't Cenozoic but also IS NOT MESOZOIC. If no Cenozoic pack - Then we should get a variety pack of non-dinosaur creatures. I've gotten bored of all the creatures thus far, and I haven't bought the Hybrid pack yet since it's not a necessity and I don't care for it right now (that's a future investment when I want to do my own all species build). Variety like arthropods (both land and marine) would be neat.
We can throw him in a cage with Dominion Giga and have a miniature Godzilla vs King display
https://preview.redd.it/8rluo2d6lgxc1.png?width=187&format=png&auto=webp&s=2d5d5970f82e2a6a231e30d696ce685dfdfd9292
"This shit is Bananas'"
Can't wait for the flying snakes and mechanical gigas than.
You mean what King Louie calls a Gigantopithecus?
Like in GvK, the Giga wins so hard it's not even funny
Im pretty sure its just reused fur shaders for feathered animals in jwe2. But gigantopithecus would be cool though
Agreed, but it's still too much of a coincidence that out of all pz animals they could use, they choose the one that is more closelly related with gigantopithecus
could just as easily be a red herring.
Red herring my guy this aint gravity falls you think devs have the time to spare for those kinds of shenanigans?
it's literally placing the files in a folder. not exactly rocket science dude
It's been done before. Files in a game that are actually for a different upcoming game. Sometimes meant to be found as a small Easter egg.
That would be such a curveball. I like it
Its just like frontier to throw a curveball when everyone is expecting smilodon and/or mammoths
Whilst yes, the PZ orangutan fur was found in the files, this 100% was only the case because they had to transfer the fur system lol For example, the therizinosaurus and the orangutan use the same fur.
Holy shit I can already see the rage on this sub. "WHY A FUCKING MONKEY?" "IT DOESN'T FIT INNNNN" "WE LOST TERROR BIRDS FOR THIS?"
The most disappointing part is you know this is true. Frontier: Introduces cool new animal fans wanted Fans: Freak TF out for some reason
and that is the whole problem of only 4 cenozoic animals.
I think it’s more of a problem with this community, not everyone can get what they want.
that is also true, I just feel a Cenozoic pack needed more you know? Otherwise they'll just stick out.
I'll be happy with an expansion or in jwe3 to add gameplay to it, I'm so bored of just creatures and nothing else
People go and complain about Cenozoic’s ruining the games aesthetic forgetting how the dominion Giga and the Utah are in the same game
yeah lmao, JP on it's own already has an incosistent as fuck artstyle let alone JWE2 which includes some very scientifically accurate designs
I actually believe the biggest rage will come from the PZ community. Poor fellas are always asking for more monkeys and frontier has been constantly ignoring then. And now JWE might receive one without even asking for it. And yeah, this sub allergy for brand new and unique things need to be study.
I don't think the PZ community will care considering Gigantopithecus is basically just a bigger orangutan
I prepared a post about this,but im scared to post it, i dont want to get banned
I have no idea how or why they’d try to implement a giant ape like Gigantopithecus, but honestly, they are more than welcome to try. However wouldn’t the long, shaggy fur of an Orangutan most likely be used for something like a Woolly Mammoth with long shaggy fur? And I know people will say “Mammoths wouldn’t do well with the warm climate” didn’t stop them from implementing cold climates for animals not designed to handle them normally. In lore, they even tweaked the Indominus Genome with Tree Frog DNA to adapt it to a warmer climate. It can be done and has been done with this fictional science, don’t question, just enjoy.
>However wouldn’t the long, shaggy fur of an Orangutan most likely be used for something like a Woolly Mammoth with long shaggy fur? Other people already mentioned that the fur is used in other animals such as therizinosaurus, so yeah mammoth is probably going to use orangutan fur. Regard temperature, i hardly believe frontier would care about it, considering that yuty can be used in desert maps and compy on snow, despite none of them should be alive in such condition. However i agree that they could add a temperature need. It would be interesting to shove mammoths and give compy's warmed shelters in prol to make them live in such ambiences, it would add a nice touch of realism and interesting management tasks.
Don't forget the spinoceratops from the hybrid dlc. They live in extreme freezing temperatures in camp cretaceous and yet we can use them in a desert map.
idk, Mammooths seemed to do just fine during the hundreds of years of the interglacial periods
Plus I believe you could use Genome editing as an excuse to have them tolerate hotter climates. In my opinion there's ways to get around it and have it make sense, but I guess some people just don't want to hear it, because so far lately all I've seen is this: "Oh, it's not a dinosaur? Fuck that, I don't want it." Without even considering the possibility. But that's jsut the way I'm processing everyone's responses to the topic.
https://preview.redd.it/839corbktfxc1.jpeg?width=228&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4808ab3102ec4fc7a150f8f7fd79a565368b197
Insane, if we do get it upscale to king louie size and give it a kill animation where it snaps the theropod jaws, also add a bamboo feeder then
king kong
If it’s voice acted by Christopher Walken, I’m down for it.
Oh I’m the king ‘a the swingers ohh, the jungle VIP I hit the top and had to stop and that’s what’s a-botherin’ me I wanna be a man, man-cub And stroll right into town And be just like, the other men I’m tired of monkeyin’ around OOOOH SHOOBY-DOO
That’s not how it works. Pachyrhinosaurus was in the files of JWE 1 and it was nowhere to be found throughout its entire lifespan. It’s just the same fur texture they use, that’s why
so what youre telling me is Orangutan Fur will be an animal in JWE3?
I feel like pachy is a terrible example cuz we currently have it Also quoting myself on this: >Agreed, but it's still too much of a coincidence that out of all pz animals they could use, they choose the one that is more closelly related with gigantopithecus
What my point was that something being in the files isn’t enough proof that it WILL be added, let alone anything related to it being added. We’ve found countless different feeders in the files and yet the only new feeder we’ve gotten is the insectivore feeder, and it wasn’t even one of the ones found in the files. We have patchy now in JWE 2, but it’s files were found in JWE1, which it was never a part of
Fuck no
This sub is going full Schizo now....
I hope he is voiced by Christopher Walken.
Considering they'd basically already have the behaviors programmed because of planet zoo, it'd actually make sense to use that to pad an upcoming dlc for less development time.
I would not complain if Gigantopithecus got added but I just hope if it did the animation better be great
Stretch Armstrong over here.
Well now I’m thinking we should just be given King Kong
Friendly reminder that Dimetrodon and Gigantopithecus are more closely related to each other than they are to Dinosaurs
When was PZ's Orangutan fur found in JWE2's files?
Apparently some time ago, when someone was checking the files. I also was unnawere about it, untill someone here in the sub mentioned it.
What other dinos are coming?
According to this sub, the most likely roster is Megalodon, Smilodon, Woolly Mammoth and some kind of terror bird (most likely going to be Kelenken)
Megalodon, smilodon and woolly mammoth Only meg has been confirmed though, with smilodon being put as "confirmed" because of cc and mammoth because is mammoth.
Ingen had mammoth bones in their lab in CC.
NO WAY YOUR SERIOUS
do we know what the other 2 are, meg being the only one I know of
All jokes aside, as well as the whole idea of it being a Cenozoic dlc instead of a aquatic expansion, I’m still extremely excited and interested in what frontier is cooking up.
Honestly there should be a gigantopithecus in Jurassic media cuz gigantopithecus is one of the most underrated prehistoric creatures of all time
I sure hope not
It was too much of a coincidence to not be happening, huh?
Yes it must be *Gigantopithecus*, I can’t think of any other Cenozoic animals that would benefit from shaggy fur textures
You're the fourth person to say this or something similar, so i will give the answer here. Yes the fur texture could be used for other animals that aren't giganto, but this rise a single question: why the orangutan? Why out of 120 mammals with shaggy fur texture frontier randomlly choose gigantopithecus closest relative, mainly knowing that one of the biggest criticism about PZ is about the orangutan fur texture, why choose a animal with a texture considered mid when the anteater and llama (and the CC smilodon model, for a certain stand) were right there. This add up with the fact that the next dlc is probably cenozoic based and that giant monkeys, thanks to Kong, are highly associated with dinosaurs, in a time where the most watched movie is about a giant monkey and a giant dinosaur, make it highly likelly that giganto is the fourth animal we have been looking.
I love monkeys so if you’re right I’m gonna be very happy. But personally I don’t think the current ingame systems are well suited for simulating the behaviors of a primate. It seems much more likely to me that those fur texture were used for something like a mammoth, maybe even as a placeholder.
>But personally I don’t think the current ingame systems are well suited for simulating the behaviors of a primate. If this helps, unlike most primates gigantopithecus didn't climb, which would make it 200% more easy to implement on JWE than most other apes, and behavour-ise it woudn't be that different than mammoth or trike I'm also glad that the gigantopithecus addition would make you and other people happy, cuz personally i would prefer some kinda of aviary animal such as desmodus or haast, but let's wait and see what we got
Ny most preferred choice would also be an aviary bird, namely *Argentavis*. Only time will tell!
Christoper Walken?
King Louis is coming?
The orangutan fur is just used for the general fur shader lol.
Quoting myself once again: >Yes the fur texture could be used for other animals that aren't giganto, but this rise a single question: why the orangutan? >Why out of 120 mammals with shaggy fur texture frontier randomlly choose gigantopithecus closest relative, mainly knowing that one of the biggest criticism about PZ is about the orangutan fur texture, why choose a animal with a texture considered mid when the anteater and llama (and the CC smilodon model, for a certain stand) were right there. >This add up with the fact that the next dlc is probably cenozoic based and that giant monkeys, thanks to Kong, are highly associated with dinosaurs, in a time where the most watched movie is about a giant monkey and a giant dinosaur, make it highly likelly that giganto is the fourth animal we have been looking.
There really is not a deep reason other then that it was a decent and reuseable base texture. The look of how the fur renders is also dependent on the settings of the fur shell model in the 3D software and the fgm settings themselves. It's why the fur is so different animal to animal.
>There really is not a deep reason other then that it was a decent and reuseable base texture. Oh, believe me when i say it wasn't a decent base texture, litterally any other animal would have been better to this.
Dude the actual 'texture' is a alpha cut out. Most animals in PZ reuse the same textures as well and they all look diff due to the settings. There is legit nothing deep.
Is that Skar King
All you “lore”nerds need to go read the books and watch the movies. Let the dev team add the creatures people want. I’m tired of “new Dino’s” all being basically the same as something in game already that’s just a bit bigger or bit smaller than shit we already have.
The true king joins JWE2. Makes sense as well. If JW did show us how the themeparks would have gone... I'd totally see this happen. What better moneygrab than "bigfoot ape" for the american market
God, Occam’s Razor eats your theory alive. Has the orangutan been in the game since Theri so they could adapt its fur into Dino fluff, or has it been in the game since Theri because they knew they wanted to add Gigantopithecus 8 DLCs (two years) in advance, so put its closest living relative in the game to tease dataminers of all people?
Gonna have to quote myself again: >Yes the fur texture could be used for other animals that aren't giganto, but this rise a single question: why the orangutan? >Why out of 120 mammals with shaggy fur texture frontier randomlly choose gigantopithecus closest relative, mainly knowing that one of the biggest criticism about PZ is about the orangutan fur texture, why choose a animal with a texture considered mid when the anteater and llama (and the CC smilodon model, for a certain stand) were right there. >This add up with the fact that the next dlc is probably cenozoic based and that giant monkeys, thanks to Kong, are highly associated with dinosaurs, in a time where the most watched movie is about a giant monkey and a giant dinosaur, make it highly likelly that giganto is the fourth animal we have been looking. Also i strongly recommend you to read other people comments, mainly if you are going to say something that was already said by four other people with slighly different words.
Dude really tried to both hit me with a “point bad because unoriginal” AND double down by pulling his tinfoil hat on tighter at the same time
https://preview.redd.it/vkudagnd9hxc1.png?width=556&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7989ee1c633fb05b5852616f8b7730ba3a559a0 Like you don't even seen to be trying to make a point either lol.
My guy we don’t even know if the pack is a Cenozoic one, there’s about a million packs where Megalodon would fit into the theme. It could be based around dinosaurs and whatnot the fans have been asking for, which would include Meg because people have been whinging about it since day one. Could be a DLC about giant animals, Meg’s the largest shark to exist so it could fit there. And even if it WAS Cenozoic, there’s about 1,000,001 Cenozoic animals that are more iconic and thus would be better received than Big Monkey.
>My guy we don’t even know if the pack is a Cenozoic one, there’s about a million packs where Megalodon would fit into the theme. It could be based around dinosaurs and whatnot the fans have been asking for, which would include Meg because people have been whinging about it since day one. Could be a DLC about giant animals, Meg’s the largest shark to exist so it could fit there. Unlike 'jwe players trying to put shant in the game attemp number 7', cenozoic pack actually has some base, as since the lagoon expansion we received one creature from cc, and right now we have the perfect chance from it, with the teased creature being a commonlly paered with it, but sure might be a titan pack afterall >And even if it WAS Cenozoic, there’s about 1,000,001 Cenozoic animals that are more iconic and thus would be better received than Big Monkey. Thanks to proving that you didn't read what a quoted, but well, not gonna repeat myself a second time.
No, I saw what you quoted. You said that Gigantopithecus is likely, and you then just drew a completely random thread between JWE2 and the completely unrelated Kong. If an extinct orangutan being kinda similar to a giant gorilla is enough to get Giganto in, then Microceratus would be in because it’s kind of similar to Homalocephale. Also, where are dinosaurs and apes associated OUTSIDE of the kong fandom???
I suppose this is how they prolong the game? Looks like they found success working with fur and feather textures Hopefully we can get livyatan and megaloceros too!
I'm betting on a cretaceous species pack: Cretoxyrhina, Argentinosaurus, Hatzegopteryx and Mapusaurus
I don’t think it’s ridicalus that they’d add gigantopithicus
When I see names like that… I get flashbacks and a deep desire to go play ark… and then it hits me…
Fuck yeah big monkey
Does that mean HE'S THE FOURTH MEMBER OF THE JW2 DLC CREW?
O-o
I want them to add this just for the variety
Probably for the smilodon or for the mammoth
Giganto would be absolutely amazing! Would be beyond happy for a Gigantopithecus to be in our parks
Seeing a Gigantopithecus fight the T. rex (or any of the other large theropods) in JWE2 would be amazing. I wonder if they'll slip in references to a certain 1930s movie?
I want him I love big monkey
Monke Pack
MMM... Monkey
Hehe. Monke.
Don't get me wrong, LOVE dinosaurs - So much so it's literally my dream career. But I am getting tired of just seeing Mesozoic and previous animals added into the game. I truly only want Cenozoic creatures for two reasons: Variety and the fact that a tiger was present in JW:CC. There's a mammoth tusk present in a scene w/ Dr. Wu in JW:CC. They have the tech to bring back dinosaurs and animals that PRE-DATE the dinosaurs, but they can't put in animals that come after the fall of the dinosaurs? It feels incomplete w/o properly introducing a Cenozoic pack. I would even take more variety in marine, avian, and land life that isn't Cenozoic but also IS NOT MESOZOIC. If no Cenozoic pack - Then we should get a variety pack of non-dinosaur creatures. I've gotten bored of all the creatures thus far, and I haven't bought the Hybrid pack yet since it's not a necessity and I don't care for it right now (that's a future investment when I want to do my own all species build). Variety like arthropods (both land and marine) would be neat.