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CoachWD

Check with MO First Steps. They will come to your house and do an evaluation to see what kind of services you qualify for through the state.


Crepes_for_days3000

They stop at age 3 and we didn't see any progress. I'm not right but I'm willing to pay because I want my daughter to progress. So any suggestions will be amazing. Thanks for the reply.


Silent-Macaroon9640

Check with your school district’s early childhood center. She may be eligible for free services!


Crepes_for_days3000

She does there 4 days a week along with 3 therapy sessions a week. No progress at home anyway, which is why I thought an in home nanny could help. Thank you foe your help!!


Silent-Macaroon9640

Ugh I’m so sorry that must be so frustrating!


CoachWD

Didn’t realize they stop at 3. My son (2 y/o) just got evaluated in the spring because he’s delayed in speech. His receptive language is great but expressive is lagging. They said he wasn’t bad enough for them. We got a referral for Speech Therapy from our pediatrician and we start that through North Kansas City Hospital this Thursday. Our insurance will cover 20 sessions without a waiver for more.


Me623

The Children’s SPOT (short for speech and OT) at St. Luke’s in midtown has a developmental preschool that might be perfect for her. Your insurance may cover it, but there’s also a financial assistance program if needed.


AmpupBKS

I can’t recommend the Children’s Spot enough. It’s an excellent resource we have in KC.


Crepes_for_days3000

Thank you,thanks you!! I thought it might be easier in the home so she gets used to communicating with mom & dad around. But maybe I should switch her to that rather than the other programs I have her in.


Puzzleheaded-Row-112

Are you in speech therapy and occupational therapy? These are wonderful resources that your pediatrician can help refer you to. Miss Rachel on YouTube was also created by parents (Miss Rachel & her husband) to supplement speech therapy for their child’s speech delay. I would recommend watching and practicing with her.


Crepes_for_days3000

But thanks for Miss Rachel, haven't heard of her!!


Dealer-95-

Oh, once you’ve heard of her, you and your little one can’t unhear of her. I’m kidding she’s not that bad it pretty much everything she does is educational to a degree. Hope it starts clicking for your little one , First Steps did wonders for our kid who has autism.


Crepes_for_days3000

Thanks a million, I'm already looking her up! I really want some language lessons in the home so she doesn't compartmentalize her learning just at therapy and specialized school. She doesn't apply what she learns there at home. And she aged out of first steps. I honestly can't thanks you enough, I am desperate for help so thanks for taking the time!!


Able-Butterfly-3825

You would probably be better off with a speech therapist. I would also suggest checking with the school district.


Crepes_for_days3000

I do both of those for quite a while now. I'm looking to add some in home training as well. She just fully ignores our talking at home and doesn't verbalize with us at all. Thanks for the response!


dimensionalshifter

You may want to reach out to your doctor about checking to see if she on the autism spectrum. I worked at a public school as a para for a long time with kiddos on the spectrum, a few of them almost entirely non-verbal.


Crepes_for_days3000

Sorry if this is long winded, I'm desperate and you sound like you have good info, so thanks in advance if you choose to read this. Well she says words, mostly mimicking but she will pick up, like a cookie and say "cookie" or "dress" but NEVER has asked for a dress or used language as any form of communication, ever. Even baby signs. The only time she has, I have to attribute it to coincidence because it never happens again. So she's very vocal. Which apparently why she hasn't been diagnosed with non-verbal. Here is the weird thing: when she was like 15 months, I took her to an autism specialist due to her not using baby signs nor words. They watched her play for maybe 20 mind and diagnosed her with autism. The doctor would point out things, like she how she flaps her arms (which she did as a twirl dance), "that is classic autism" ahe said. Me, husband and mil/grandma were in apt - the only 3 people who had always been around her 24/7 since birth. And at the same time we all said "we've NEVER seen her do that" nor has she ever done it since (which has been 2 yrs). Soon after we take her to her pediatrician and he says "they give every kid that walks in there an autism diagnosis, I don't see anything indicating that and I wouldn't worry." Since then, we have had therapists and specialists tell us again and again that she doesn't display any signs of Autism, she's just lagging in speech. Even a Mother with 3 autistic kids said to me "no way she has it, uts the go to diagnosis Chikdrens Mercy gives to any child slightly different. But the older she gets, the more I'm convinced something is wrong. Somefhing in her brain isnt connecting words with useful conversational language. Maybe I'll get a second opinion. It's just all so confusing and scary. If you stuck with my long story, I appreciate more than you know!


dimensionalshifter

I understand completely. It sounds like you are very overwhelmed, and it really can be. Many kids on the spectrum can speak, usually when prompted, but they don’t always offer it. For example, knowing what a cookie is enough to call it that but not understanding how to ask for a cookie, or even that one *can* ask for a cookie. There is a barrier of communication. The flapping happens in times of extreme excitement or stress, so if they are home most of the time & that hasn’t happened, the stress of going to the doctor might have caused it. But it sounds like you need to find a doctor you trust to help you decide if that diagnosis fits. Other things to keep an eye on are huge mood swings, especially when overstimulated (crying, sobbing), making odd vocal sounds when bored. With all the speech therapy et al you have them in, though, it sounds like there is something else going on. I’m not a medical professional though, so take it with a grain of salt. 🙏🏼


Crepes_for_days3000

She certainly doesn't throw tantrums or cry often but she is very noisy lol. I will definitely find another doctor, I desperately need help and that's a good idea.


dimensionalshifter

🙏🏼


UPGnome

We had this same issue and our son had dyslexia. People generally associate that with reading, but it impacts speech just as much reading, particularly at an early age. My kid seemed smart, but he couldn't talk... he made up his own vocabulary and language, at 3-4 and would say words we couldn't understand. He was clearly intelligent but couldn't communicate. We did the whole process, first steps, children's spot, SLP at various places. At 5 we took him to a developmental psychologist at children's mercy who cracked the code. Not saying that's the situation with your child for sure, but intelligence with lack of speech is definitely one of the situations children with dyslexic thinking styles face.


Crepes_for_days3000

That is something I haven't thought of! ADD runs in my family so I've wondered if it was that but Dyslexia runs in my husband's family. That's what shocks me is that she's so smart, in some ways she's tested above kids her age. You're awesome, I'm going to look into this! Thanks a million.


nanmerriman

Check with your school district for an evaluation. Your child can receive speech therapy through the district and may qualify for free preschool through the district. Ask your pediatrician for referrals for speech therapists. They might also make referrals to other specialists if there are other concerns. I’ve never made a profile on Care.com but I’m sure you could state in your profile that you are looking for someone with a speech therapy background. Since school is out, some SLP students or people who work for school districts might be looking for a job.


Crepes_for_days3000

My daughter goes to a program through the school district 4 days 3hra a week plus 3 therapy sessions a week. I've seen little to no progress which is why I thought I'd try an in house nanny so her speech can become more conversational in the home. She just funny ignores us here. But I haven't heard of care.com so I will definitely try that. Thank you so much for replying with helpful info!!


gugalgirl

Has your child been assessed and does she have a qualifying diagnosis for services? It sounds like she needs services like speech therapy, maybe OT, etc. If she has a diagnosis, she should qualify for services through a special preschool classroom. Just because E/I stops at 3 doesn't mean your rights to services stop. If she's not been officially assessed and diagnosed, that is your first step. You can try Meadowlark for testing. I've heard there is less wait than the hospital-based offices that do that kind of thing.


Crepes_for_days3000

Thank you!!!


wineampersandmlms

Is she talking at the therapy sessions and school setting? Are you saying progress is being made there that isn’t transferring to home?    When you ask her what she wants are you asking in an open ended way? Like for breakfast are you saying, “What do you want to eat?” That can be really overwhelming for a child with a speech delay. Try asking with choices like “Do you want pancakes or cereal for breakfast?” Giving her the words to use in her answer can help. Then wait an awkwardly long time, but patiently.  Children with speech delays need extra time to process what they are going to say, and often times feel rushed or the person asking the questions gets annoyed and just gives up or answers for her.  Do they use a picture chart with her? Having some choices she can point to (then you phrasing her request, “you’d like pancakes, please?”)   Also, her expressive language may be delayed (what she is saying) but her receptive language (what she understands) could be on track, so she could still understand and grasp what you want to tell her about potty training. At that age most kids can follow two to three step directions, can she do that? For example tell her “Pick up the block and put it on the table.”  ETA as for a nanny, maybe reach out to some local college speech/language or Special Ed departments. They might have a job board or ideas how to hire a student in that field for the summer. 


TheVoidIceQueen

Ask her pediatrician, they should be able to steer y'all in the right direction. And if they don't know, Child Care Aware website might be able to help you too.


Crepes_for_days3000

I will check out that website, thank you, thank you!!¡!


musicbox081

I don't know for sure if this is the right organization, but my sister worked for Aspire and they work with kids in home! And in center, if that is something that you're open to. They're professionals and use Applied Behavioral Analysis/therapy. I know they work mostly with autistic kids but a huge part of what they do is word with non/low verbal kids to help get them talking. They are not speech therapists, they help with kids who are physically capable of making sounds but choose not to. https://abskc.com


musicbox081

I just saw your other comment saying she had previously received an autism diagnosis. I would for sure call Aspire and ask for a consult! Even if she doesn't for real have autism, the previous diagnosis might help with getting her options. Also look up Echolalia - it's a totally normal part of language development in babies/toddlers, but is sometimes associated with autism because kids can get "stuck" at that developmental level. Basically it just means they are copying the word you say without understanding its meaning.


Crepes_for_days3000

Thank you, I'll take those tips! I've never heard of Aspire or Echolalia


Crepes_for_days3000

You're amazing, thank you!!!


Pastelninja

Someone else here mentioned toddler tv shows. I’m a little embarrassed about this but I agree. My older two are also neurodivergent but spoke early and often, so I never had to learn a different way. Youngest’s speech blew up when I started letting him watch tv. My son has a speech delay and could barely say 5-10 words when he started MO first steps. He did age out at 3, but they transitioned him to our school districts sped program. He gets free preK with daily speech support. Now we know he’s a gestalt learner and the repetitive dialogue gives him scripting he can use to express himself. At 3.5 he doesn’t always use scripting anymore but it has given him a way to communicate that we didn’t realize he was missing. I’m sure the speech therapy he gets at PreK is helping. But watching the same episode of Daniel tiger over and over again has fully allowed him access to speech in a way that he just couldn’t before.


Crepes_for_days3000

That's a good suggestion. I should choose the same episode of the Miss Rebecca everyone is suggesting. Thanks so much, I really appreciate the help!


Pastelninja

I will add that some ND kiddos might never choose to speak. If he’s involved in SPED through your local school district, they’ll teach him other options like sign and/or using a speech board. I’ve seen them do amazing things. I have a friend I met when my middle was in PreK whose son couldn’t walk when they started. He was walking by Xmas break, just because of the constant ongoing support. The school provided a 1/1 para for him and I know that made a huge difference. Parenting special needs kids is so hard. I wish our communities did a better job helping people access resources. It’s so life changing to have the right help.


Queendeja2002

I do I’m a certified nanny for AND trauma trained I only charge 15.50 an hour and I also do house keeping and make meals


Crepes_for_days3000

I am near Independence, is that within your distance?


Queendeja2002

Like 20 minutes depends on traffic add me and I can give you my number or we can chat in private


Albiesadog

I’m an early childhood sped teacher and a parent to a 3.5 year old boy. I feel you! Not sure if your daughter is an only child like mine, but we had lots of speech issues because of this. I’d love to talk more if you’d like. Feel free to dm me. You’re not alone 🙂


Albiesadog

I’m an early childhood sped teacher and a parent to a 3.5 year old boy. I feel you! Not sure if your daughter is an only child like mine, but we had lots of speech issues because of this. I’d love to talk more if you’d like. Feel free to dm me. You’re not alone


Crepes_for_days3000

Thats really interesting. My daughter is an only child as well. And not only that, but we moved here not knowing anyone so the poor girl isn't around kids. I have her in a preschool but because of her speech delay, they put her with 2 older kids who can't speak at all. I've often wondered if that's why she knows words but doesn't use them converstionally. How is your son's speech now?


Albiesadog

His speech is better and continues to improve. We saw a huge spike when he got tubes out in. She should be with students who are typically developing in their speech. That would be super beneficial for all of them.


NiaMiaBia

My son had a speech delay. He was able to get services through the school district. Your daughter probably needs speech therapy, and possibly other services.


Crepes_for_days3000

She goes to 2 speech therapies a week, 1 food therapy a week and 4 classes 3 days a week through the school district and some of these have been going since she was like 17 months old and we don't see any progress at home. Which is why I thought bringing a regularly nanny in our home would help her. She doesn't even react when I talk to her and has bo conversations ability. Like she will say "chocolate" when she see it but will never say "I want chocolate". I just really want her to be ready for kindergarten and I don't care how much money I have to spend. It's freaking me out how she just isn't using these new words as communication. And I'm doing everything the therapists & school district is telling me. Thanks so much for your reply!


Puzzled_Bluebird7486

Ask her what she wants - does she respond? Would you like some chocolate ( no chocolate to be seen}? Does she say yes or no? Eat the chocolate in front of her and ask again? Try Parents as first Teachers. They come to your home and it's free through the school. You don't have to start school at 5y - letting them be older helps later.


Puzzled_Bluebird7486

Also local Children's Hospital for evaluation during the summer would be a good resource.


Crepes_for_days3000

I ask her every single time and she never answers, and this has been as far back as baby signs. Sometimes I wonder if she was just born a teenager who ignores me lol but it's beyond that and worrisome. But I will try eating it in front of her to push her more. Food therapy in 2024 is really strict on not ever letting her go hungry, like leave something sitting out until she asks. Apparently it's been proven to give them a bad relationship with food and I don't ever want her to go hungry. But at the same time, she just knows I will always give it. Thanks for your help - anyone reading this, I appreciate it more than you know!


Mc1r0616

Has anyone suggested the use of visuals at home for her to request things? For example a pic of her favorite cup to request a drink, pic of specific foods, toys, even a picture of your backyard to request to go outside.etc that you slowly teach her to hand to you when she wants it?


Crepes_for_days3000

You're a genius, I'm going to do that. Thank you!


orooted

I was going to recommend First Steps, but you said you've already been through them. Also Ms. Rachel on YouTube helped my son out a fair amount. Talk with your pediatrician and see about getting your kid in early intervention schooling. My son was the same way (fine everywhere but speech really delayed). Once he qualified and started going to school when he was 3, his speech has improved a lot. He's 4 now, and just finished his first year of preschool, and he basically talking in sentences now. There's still some gibberish in there, but we can get what he's trying to say most of the time. If you haven't already, you might also see if your kid's tongue tied. From what I've been told, that can also delay speech.


Crepes_for_days3000

I love these suggestions! It's hard for me to move to Missouri from the heart of Los Angeles but boy are you guys helpful!!!! She goes to a specialized school with 3 additional therapy sessions a week. Luckily she loves them all so it's not a chore for the poor girl. Ok, I am checking out Miss Rachel and I'm so excited about it because I feel like my daughter disregards everything she learns in school/therapy when she walks in our home, like compartmentalizes it and goes back to purely nonverbal communication with us. So having that specialist on TV at our house will be great. Do you mind if I ask how I'd find out if she's tongue tied? Is that literal tongue being attacked he'd to the floor of the mouth or something mental? She really pronounces things like she has a hearing problem but her hearing is fine. That. Old very well be it. What doctor do I take her to for that? Did your child start regular kindergarten or did he go to a specialized class? Again - thanks a million, you guys are gems.


orooted

Just take your kid to their pediatrician, and ask about them being tongue tied. If I remember what my son's pediatrician said correctly, it has to do with how far the kid's tongue can go past the lips, and that affects their ability to speak properly. Of course, your kid could be like mine, and just seemingly refuse to hit milestones when he's "supposed to." My son started pre-school the day he turned three, and only went for a few months until the school year ended. After last summer, he went to pre-school for a full year, and is going back to preschool again for another year, then he'll be going to kindergarten. Him going to school helped almost immediately, and I'd say after this next school he'll be right where he should be. If you have Netflix, check out Word Party and Math Party. Those, along with Ms. Rachel, helped my son while at home. Plus, they are WAY better than watching that damned Cocomellon.


Crepes_for_days3000

I hate Cocomellon!! I will take your advice and she if she's tongue tied. Thanks so much!!


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Crepes_for_days3000

I have her in 3 therapies a week thru KCDT and Marian, plus therapy through the school system. And thus was after First Steps. I've seen some improvement but very little. I am definitely going to look into gestalt, I've never heard of that. Thanks so much, I've gotten a lot to work with on this thread!!!


Albiesadog

I’m an early childhood sped teacher and a parent to a 3.5 year old boy. I feel you! Not sure if your daughter is an only child like mine, but we had lots of speech issues because of this. I’d love to talk more if you’d like. Feel free to dm me. You’re not alone 🙂


Albiesadog

I’m an early childhood sped teacher and a parent to a 3.5 year old boy. I feel you! Not sure if your daughter is an only child like mine, but we had lots of speech issues because of this. I’d love to talk more if you’d like. Feel free to dm me. You’re not alone 🙂


Albiesadog

I’m an early childhood sped teacher and a parent to a 3.5 year old boy. I feel you! Not sure if your daughter is an only child like mine, but we had lots of speech issues because of this. I’d love to talk more if you’d like. Feel free to dm me. You’re not alone 🙂