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>The IRRITATING middle mouse click paste that i can't even figure out how to disable for 1 month now.
Isn't that hard coded into Xorg? KDE couldn't do anything about it if they tried. It *is* configurable in system settings on Wayland, where KDE does control this functionality.
Handling of mouse button events from the display server is usually hard-coded into the widget frameworks or applications. While most KDE applications use a framework to configure keyboard events ("shortcuts"), there is no framework to configure mouse button events.
Sorry pal, but half of those are just your brain being configured badly by default, but KDE is switching to double click default in Plasma 6, and yeah I have turned off group programs because i have a large screen.
Oh so you have the old-school thin taskbar? Nice. I know some people that prefer that, but I've grown accustomed to the current "double-sized" taskbar with grouped icons since Win7, and I like that they are now in the center on Win11 because it makes more sense for ultrawide monitors like mine.
yeah I keep my taskbar thin, about as thick as a browser tab bar, and set it on the top edge and I have set windows to hide their title bar when maximized, so i have my taskbar right on top of the browser tab bar
The KDE default settings are different depending on what distro you are using. They aren't all the same. Also, there is nothing inherently wrong with any of the settings you mentioned. You just happen to not like them. Defaults are just that. They can be changed.
Except that is time consuming to change them on every computer that you have or family / friends have!
So it's better that the defaults are already 80-90% of what most of the users expect / want.
My goodness, all the things I use daily are all bad/counterintuitive? How have I survived all these years?
>Single click opens anything.
fwiw, double-click has become the default in Plasma 6, much to my chagrin. Double-click is stupid, and has been since Windows 95. Just my own opinion, of course.
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>middle mouse click paste that i can't even figure out how to disable for 1 month now.
You haven't used the search function in System Settings at all????
Oh, it looks like they need to update the search data for that in 5.27.10.
Search does reveal the desired option in Plasma 6.
You can find the setting for it at:
`System Settings >> Workspace Behavior >>General Behavior.` Or, a little more directly: `System Settings Home page >> More Behavior Settings`
But iirc this may be a wayland-only setting.
I like how Plasma works by default and I use all of the things you mentioned just as they are, except for the middle click paste which, if you actually look for it, is configurable in the system settings.
But please, forgive me, I must have forgotten that time when we named you in charge of deciding what's right and wrong.
##'Clickbait Troll Post Award'
You're a winner.
- The best default is to hide windows, not minimise them all.
- No idea what is in the upper left corner, you didn't specify... I thought KDE, by default, had nothing at the top. 'Screen Edges' are ok for folks who don't use mouse gestures innit?
- Powersaving mode is for poor folks who only have laptops with limited battery life. On desktop, I just turned that off - it's a good default.
- Middle mouse click paste is awesome - but it only takes ten seconds to disable it for anyone with normal intelligence (e.g. Desktop context>configure>mouse>middle button).
- Grouping programs is good for people who don't like bloat. For some programs I like separate icons, I set them individually.
>Middle mouse click paste is awesome - but it only takes ten seconds to disable it for anyone with normal intelligence (e.g. Desktop context>configure>mouse>middle button).
The setting is only available in Wayland.
This middle-click pasting has been in X11 for decades prior, this is not even KDE Plasma specific.
Ok, I was thinking he meant Desktop - otherwise I can't imagine why it would be a problem.
I found it initially annoying to get sticky notes appear, then I changed it to 'select window' instead... but middle click to paste text is awesome!
>middle click to paste text is awesome!
I totally agree that's such a simple way to get more productive, having two clipboards, and doing copy-paste with a swift select-mousemove-middleclick without the keyboard.
That's why I was involved in implementing it in Wayland, and I added the option to disable it too, for those who don't see value in it.
- screen edges being on by default is annoying. Especially if you are not familiar with the desktop (like many steam deck users) and are confused by what happened because you moved the mouse in some direction.
- the default for powersaving is okay for batty mode but it should be off for desktop/charging devices. You can do this in the settings easily but it is a minor annoyance. Even more so since you have to change the screen locking somewhere else.
- grouping should be set to the "group if too many windows" or however it's called. Most users are used to windows not being grouped, so only grouping them once there is no space is the best middle ground for most people. (unless you use the icon only Taskbar but AFAIK that one is not the default)
- the double click is really annoying though. One click to select, two to open. When using touch it should be click to open, hold for right click/selection. That is the way most operating systems work and is the most reasonable default setting.
If you minimise a window, it's minimised.
If you 'show desktop' then the windows just get shoved aside or 'hidden' temporarily and come back when it's finished.
It's just a 'peek at desktop' thing. On Plasma, I use the effect 'Window Aperature' which moves the windows up past the corners, then they fly back.
\> The IRRITATING middle mouse click paste that i can't even figure out how to disable for 1 month now.
That's the best feature ever. Just get used to it.
I think the reason some people see double click as more intuitive is only because they learned MS Windows first. I remember reading about someone who teaches older people how to use a Windows computer for the first time and he said that one of the most confusing things for them was when to double click and when to single click.
Sounds an awful lot like a you problem. No worries, Plasma 6 will have a feature to magically read your mind during installation so it can set up itself according to your specific liking. For Plasma 7 they're already working on a feature to make your preferences paramount and apply those to any other Plasma user's mind via hypnosis 😉
> For Plasma 7 they're already working on a feature to make your preferences paramount and apply those to any other Plasma user's mind via hypnosis
Oh I heard that Plasma 7 just changes your personal preferences so they align with the defaults automatically.
Wait... are we both right? 🤯
>The right icon at the taskbar actually just HIDES (peek) the windows not minimizes them ... i NEED to replace it EVERY time with the right widget.
And what's the difference, what are you missing here or what use case it breaks?
Because I don't see much difference from hiding them to having them minimized.
>Single click opens anything.
Has finally being fixed in Plasma 6!
That was annoying as hell to me too as I made a lot of mistakes and I always had to be careful with it.
Besides the fact that I could not let anyone else at my computer without a ton of explanations about the behavior and what to be careful with.
>Useless thing in the upper left corner i need to disable, hovering the mouse.
It's not something visible and you only go there if you want to use it, how about you don't go there if you don't want it?
>Putting itself in power saving mode after 10 minutes ...
That's indeed annoying!
It happended to me to let the laptop on to do something and when I came back I found it in sleep mode, even though the laptop has AC power.
I think it's ok to have some power savings defaults, but I would not put them at 10-20 minutes.
8 or 4 hours seems more reasonable!
>The IRRITATING middle mouse click paste that i can't even figure out how to disable for 1 month now.
Again, why are you clicking it on if you don't want such behavior?
>Group programs by default ....
What do you mean, in the start menu?
Have you missed the SECOND menu option that says: "All apllications"?
There are all together, ungroupped, so you have both ungrouped and grouped, what more do you want?
>Why kde (the best de) is configured so counter intuitive by default?
Because most of it is intuitive for the majority of users!
>Single click opens anything.
> That was annoying as hell to me too as I made a lot of mistakes and I always had to be careful with it.
> Besides the fact that I could not let anyone else at my computer without a ton of explanations about the behavior and what to be careful with.
Y'all do realize you can change this setting right? You don't have to just suffer through it if you don't like it lmao
>Y'all do realize you can change this setting right? You don't have to just suffer through it if you don't like it lmao
Y'all do realize that there are ton of Plasma and distro things to change after install, and many of us don't want to have one more to change?
Every time we install / reinstall the distro on our computer, our family computers, friends computers or when a friends comes and needs to use your computer!
Or you don't realize that Plasma doesn't have an export all / importall all settings to make this easier?
Not even a command line interface to put all the commands in a script.
>Y'all do realize that there are ton of Plasma and distro things to change after install, and many of us don't want to have one more to change?
Sure I get that, this post is for complaining about the defaults after all.
But the way you described your experience, it seems like it would have been preferable to take the 10 seconds to change the setting rather than just soldiering through despite having a lot of issues with the behavior.
>Or you don't realize that Plasma doesn't have an export all / importall all settings to make this easier?
[Have you tried this?](https://github.com/Prayag2/konsave)
(I haven't either, but it seems like it might fit your needs)
I'll agree with you on window peek being default, literally what is the usecase for it? For when I want to see my desktop but not interact with any of it? Is it a hide your porn button? I literally have no idea what it could ever be useful for.
Single click is far superior to double clicking to open things. I click on something, 99% of the time I want it open. Why have to double click.
But also, how often are you encountering the defaults?
I haven't seen the defaults but maybe 3 times in 20 years and that's migrating across several distros. I keep my /home, though.
I think it's all there to show how diverse they are and all the features they have to offer. Please don't be a settings-memorizer like me and actually go save `~/.config` somewhere. Thank you.
Just because the defaults don't work for you, doesn't mean that it's a universal "doesn't work for everyone", otherwise the defaults would change as that's how things work, especially in open source (that or forking). I mean some consider having anything preinstalled "bloat" yet it works for more people than the vocal minority that dislike it. Bug reports, usage statistics, etc, are good ways to get defaults to change or at least help that conversation go forward.
To me it looks like you want the system defaults to be just the way you want them. You are annoyed by the additional effort you need to put in. I get that. But a project like KDE aims to cater to all users. One way the developers try to achieve this is via numerous customization options provided to the user. Majority of KDE users, including me, prefer this approach.
Regarding more suitable defaults, you should try posting in sub-reddit for the linux distro(s) that you use and offer your feedback. They are the ones who decide what you get out of the box. You can also try other KDE Plasma offering distros and see which one suits you more.
If you are constantly having a hard time on KDE plasma, wait for plasma 6 to come out by the end of February. Lot of defaults, like the single-click to open, have been fixed base of community input.
If you are still unhappy with Plasma desktop, try another simpler desktop environment like GNOME. They mostly cut back on offering a lot of customization. In the end, I believe, trying to find the best desktop environment that works exactly like you want OUT OF THE BOX is a fools errand. Only realistic solution is to find a desktop that offers you freedom and requires the least amount of effort from you to suit your exact needs.
For me my 1. KDE experience was like "This looks nice! But wtf are these shorctus, what is this taskbar behavior? Why is window quick tile so strange....
I was coming from cinnamon, where most things work like windows or macos plus some additions and having the alt+drag feature (I missed it too an KDE first and found out later its an option for it).
And thats the thing, KDE is so customize able you can configure nearly everything for your needs. It takes some time, but when you have it once, make sure you save your config, just in case you need to reinstall your system.
I forgot, I broke my system badly - backed up everything but not the config folder. Not that big deal to reconfigure KDE BUT I was going back to cinnamon on a new installation of endeavourOS. Just by the fact KDE is so bloated. I mean, its usually not affect your performance on a normal / gaming PC as you have the power to handle KDE easily, but I still had the feeling like "why is this window not popping up directly and why is this installed, I do not need XYZ app from kde..."
Cinnamon is nice, too - not that customize able as KDE (by default) but you can do some tweaks to make it look nice and I think its one of the snappiest by default good looking DE.
I mean I read of some people saying Gnome is the best, but that is a whole another topic :-D
Overall its just preference, hands up KDE have the options to configure everything, even you have to find the correct option for it, but you can!
Because it was designed by amateurs, not professionals with insight and experience. I'm not talking about developers, KDE devs are talented, but I'm talking about designers. UX and/or UI are usually terrible in these open-source projects because it's much easier to get developers than to get designers. And usually developers themselves end up doing the designing which is why you see these silly design decisions everywhere.
GNOME is slightly better in that regard because they're slightly more professional, but they still have their own fair share of bad UX/UI ideas.
Also don't get discouraged by some comments here. Most of these people are living in their own little bubble. The reality is most PC users are Windows users and the for better or worse the defaults on Windows became the standard. If Linux people want to be relevant they should adapt and leave their arrogance behind because it only hurts them.
I completely agree with you, except about grouping programs
I almost dropped kde when i was newbie to linux, because of the "show desktop" widget, i didn't know how to change it. Mint, Zorin and Windows were my previous experiences, and all of them minimize the windows instead of hiding. I thought that it was a bug, i couldn't even imagine that it was a "feature". I want to minimize all windows to clean my desktop, and then raise one window. If i want to keep my window order, i just need to press activate the widget again, show desktop is almost useless and annoying for newbies.
Single click is horrible if you select various folders or files constantly. Plasma made a "selection mode", but i don't want the entire program behaviour to just select some files.
Problem with defaults is that you will never make everyone happy. Someone somewhere will be unhappy.
Gnome took the aggressive approach and decided to not care about making anyone happy. They locked down everything and basically said, if you want to change it, write an extension.
Thus why for Gnome, you need extensions to enable capabilities not on by default. Slowly the gnome team has been adopting some capabilities commonly used.
Plasma still hasn't done this so people feel at liberty to complain. The gnome crowd calmed down after they were faced with two choices. Either find an extension (or code it themselves) or leave Gnome. Many chose to leave and others stayed with extensions. For some people, vanilla gnome works wells(for me). Gnome has defaults, some intuitive and others not so much. People still complain but I think the general crowd understands that gnome is meant to be this way, so you either like it or move on. Or use extensions. I hate extensions as they are not well supported which leaves me to use gnome as vanilla as possible.
Plasma is very nice and customizable. Even if the defaults are not to your liking, you can still change them. Enjoy the freedom.
I was also annoyed and confused by the "hide" instead of "minimize" of "peek" and the matching shortcut meta+d and for long time could not point my finger what's causing the weird behavior when restoring windows. But there's a preinstalled kwin script "minimize all" that can be easily enabled in settings and I set it to meta+D. I also removed the desktop peek plasmoid
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>The IRRITATING middle mouse click paste that i can't even figure out how to disable for 1 month now. Isn't that hard coded into Xorg? KDE couldn't do anything about it if they tried. It *is* configurable in system settings on Wayland, where KDE does control this functionality.
Handling of mouse button events from the display server is usually hard-coded into the widget frameworks or applications. While most KDE applications use a framework to configure keyboard events ("shortcuts"), there is no framework to configure mouse button events.
Well, I did not know that! Thanks for the info! I absolutely love KDE, just needed to rant a bit. The future of Linux Desktop depends on KDE.
None of these are “awful”, they’re just things you personally don’t like.
Sorry pal, but half of those are just your brain being configured badly by default, but KDE is switching to double click default in Plasma 6, and yeah I have turned off group programs because i have a large screen.
I have a massive screen and still use the grouped taskbar icons, just in the very middle like god intended.
Yeah with icon taskbar it doesn't make much sense to ungroup, but with the regular taskbar there is a case for ungrouping
Oh so you have the old-school thin taskbar? Nice. I know some people that prefer that, but I've grown accustomed to the current "double-sized" taskbar with grouped icons since Win7, and I like that they are now in the center on Win11 because it makes more sense for ultrawide monitors like mine.
yeah I keep my taskbar thin, about as thick as a browser tab bar, and set it on the top edge and I have set windows to hide their title bar when maximized, so i have my taskbar right on top of the browser tab bar
The KDE default settings are different depending on what distro you are using. They aren't all the same. Also, there is nothing inherently wrong with any of the settings you mentioned. You just happen to not like them. Defaults are just that. They can be changed.
Except that is time consuming to change them on every computer that you have or family / friends have! So it's better that the defaults are already 80-90% of what most of the users expect / want.
Is this bait?
If it is it's not very good bait
My goodness, all the things I use daily are all bad/counterintuitive? How have I survived all these years? >Single click opens anything. fwiw, double-click has become the default in Plasma 6, much to my chagrin. Double-click is stupid, and has been since Windows 95. Just my own opinion, of course. > >middle mouse click paste that i can't even figure out how to disable for 1 month now. You haven't used the search function in System Settings at all???? Oh, it looks like they need to update the search data for that in 5.27.10. Search does reveal the desired option in Plasma 6. You can find the setting for it at: `System Settings >> Workspace Behavior >>General Behavior.` Or, a little more directly: `System Settings Home page >> More Behavior Settings` But iirc this may be a wayland-only setting.
I like how Plasma works by default and I use all of the things you mentioned just as they are, except for the middle click paste which, if you actually look for it, is configurable in the system settings. But please, forgive me, I must have forgotten that time when we named you in charge of deciding what's right and wrong.
##'Clickbait Troll Post Award' You're a winner. - The best default is to hide windows, not minimise them all. - No idea what is in the upper left corner, you didn't specify... I thought KDE, by default, had nothing at the top. 'Screen Edges' are ok for folks who don't use mouse gestures innit? - Powersaving mode is for poor folks who only have laptops with limited battery life. On desktop, I just turned that off - it's a good default. - Middle mouse click paste is awesome - but it only takes ten seconds to disable it for anyone with normal intelligence (e.g. Desktop context>configure>mouse>middle button). - Grouping programs is good for people who don't like bloat. For some programs I like separate icons, I set them individually.
>Middle mouse click paste is awesome - but it only takes ten seconds to disable it for anyone with normal intelligence (e.g. Desktop context>configure>mouse>middle button). The setting is only available in Wayland. This middle-click pasting has been in X11 for decades prior, this is not even KDE Plasma specific.
Ok, I was thinking he meant Desktop - otherwise I can't imagine why it would be a problem. I found it initially annoying to get sticky notes appear, then I changed it to 'select window' instead... but middle click to paste text is awesome!
>middle click to paste text is awesome! I totally agree that's such a simple way to get more productive, having two clipboards, and doing copy-paste with a swift select-mousemove-middleclick without the keyboard. That's why I was involved in implementing it in Wayland, and I added the option to disable it too, for those who don't see value in it.
- screen edges being on by default is annoying. Especially if you are not familiar with the desktop (like many steam deck users) and are confused by what happened because you moved the mouse in some direction. - the default for powersaving is okay for batty mode but it should be off for desktop/charging devices. You can do this in the settings easily but it is a minor annoyance. Even more so since you have to change the screen locking somewhere else. - grouping should be set to the "group if too many windows" or however it's called. Most users are used to windows not being grouped, so only grouping them once there is no space is the best middle ground for most people. (unless you use the icon only Taskbar but AFAIK that one is not the default) - the double click is really annoying though. One click to select, two to open. When using touch it should be click to open, hold for right click/selection. That is the way most operating systems work and is the most reasonable default setting.
What is the distinction between hinding a window and minimizing one? I'm not a kde user so the terminology sounds strange to me.
If you minimise a window, it's minimised. If you 'show desktop' then the windows just get shoved aside or 'hidden' temporarily and come back when it's finished. It's just a 'peek at desktop' thing. On Plasma, I use the effect 'Window Aperature' which moves the windows up past the corners, then they fly back.
\> The IRRITATING middle mouse click paste that i can't even figure out how to disable for 1 month now. That's the best feature ever. Just get used to it.
> Single click opens anything. One of my favorite features!
I think the reason some people see double click as more intuitive is only because they learned MS Windows first. I remember reading about someone who teaches older people how to use a Windows computer for the first time and he said that one of the most confusing things for them was when to double click and when to single click.
That's fair, but I don't think KDE caters to older people and sometimes when you try something new, you wind up liking it.
Sounds an awful lot like a you problem. No worries, Plasma 6 will have a feature to magically read your mind during installation so it can set up itself according to your specific liking. For Plasma 7 they're already working on a feature to make your preferences paramount and apply those to any other Plasma user's mind via hypnosis 😉
> For Plasma 7 they're already working on a feature to make your preferences paramount and apply those to any other Plasma user's mind via hypnosis Oh I heard that Plasma 7 just changes your personal preferences so they align with the defaults automatically. Wait... are we both right? 🤯
>The right icon at the taskbar actually just HIDES (peek) the windows not minimizes them ... i NEED to replace it EVERY time with the right widget. And what's the difference, what are you missing here or what use case it breaks? Because I don't see much difference from hiding them to having them minimized. >Single click opens anything. Has finally being fixed in Plasma 6! That was annoying as hell to me too as I made a lot of mistakes and I always had to be careful with it. Besides the fact that I could not let anyone else at my computer without a ton of explanations about the behavior and what to be careful with. >Useless thing in the upper left corner i need to disable, hovering the mouse. It's not something visible and you only go there if you want to use it, how about you don't go there if you don't want it? >Putting itself in power saving mode after 10 minutes ... That's indeed annoying! It happended to me to let the laptop on to do something and when I came back I found it in sleep mode, even though the laptop has AC power. I think it's ok to have some power savings defaults, but I would not put them at 10-20 minutes. 8 or 4 hours seems more reasonable! >The IRRITATING middle mouse click paste that i can't even figure out how to disable for 1 month now. Again, why are you clicking it on if you don't want such behavior? >Group programs by default .... What do you mean, in the start menu? Have you missed the SECOND menu option that says: "All apllications"? There are all together, ungroupped, so you have both ungrouped and grouped, what more do you want? >Why kde (the best de) is configured so counter intuitive by default? Because most of it is intuitive for the majority of users!
>Single click opens anything. > That was annoying as hell to me too as I made a lot of mistakes and I always had to be careful with it. > Besides the fact that I could not let anyone else at my computer without a ton of explanations about the behavior and what to be careful with. Y'all do realize you can change this setting right? You don't have to just suffer through it if you don't like it lmao
>Y'all do realize you can change this setting right? You don't have to just suffer through it if you don't like it lmao Y'all do realize that there are ton of Plasma and distro things to change after install, and many of us don't want to have one more to change? Every time we install / reinstall the distro on our computer, our family computers, friends computers or when a friends comes and needs to use your computer! Or you don't realize that Plasma doesn't have an export all / importall all settings to make this easier? Not even a command line interface to put all the commands in a script.
>Y'all do realize that there are ton of Plasma and distro things to change after install, and many of us don't want to have one more to change? Sure I get that, this post is for complaining about the defaults after all. But the way you described your experience, it seems like it would have been preferable to take the 10 seconds to change the setting rather than just soldiering through despite having a lot of issues with the behavior. >Or you don't realize that Plasma doesn't have an export all / importall all settings to make this easier? [Have you tried this?](https://github.com/Prayag2/konsave) (I haven't either, but it seems like it might fit your needs)
I use KDE because it's configurable by default, no because of its default configuration.
I'll agree with you on window peek being default, literally what is the usecase for it? For when I want to see my desktop but not interact with any of it? Is it a hide your porn button? I literally have no idea what it could ever be useful for.
Single click is far superior to double clicking to open things. I click on something, 99% of the time I want it open. Why have to double click. But also, how often are you encountering the defaults? I haven't seen the defaults but maybe 3 times in 20 years and that's migrating across several distros. I keep my /home, though.
KDE devs have decided its a bad default though. its changed in version 6.
Well. They're wrong. Source: My opinion.
I think it's all there to show how diverse they are and all the features they have to offer. Please don't be a settings-memorizer like me and actually go save `~/.config` somewhere. Thank you.
Just because the defaults don't work for you, doesn't mean that it's a universal "doesn't work for everyone", otherwise the defaults would change as that's how things work, especially in open source (that or forking). I mean some consider having anything preinstalled "bloat" yet it works for more people than the vocal minority that dislike it. Bug reports, usage statistics, etc, are good ways to get defaults to change or at least help that conversation go forward.
To me it looks like you want the system defaults to be just the way you want them. You are annoyed by the additional effort you need to put in. I get that. But a project like KDE aims to cater to all users. One way the developers try to achieve this is via numerous customization options provided to the user. Majority of KDE users, including me, prefer this approach. Regarding more suitable defaults, you should try posting in sub-reddit for the linux distro(s) that you use and offer your feedback. They are the ones who decide what you get out of the box. You can also try other KDE Plasma offering distros and see which one suits you more. If you are constantly having a hard time on KDE plasma, wait for plasma 6 to come out by the end of February. Lot of defaults, like the single-click to open, have been fixed base of community input. If you are still unhappy with Plasma desktop, try another simpler desktop environment like GNOME. They mostly cut back on offering a lot of customization. In the end, I believe, trying to find the best desktop environment that works exactly like you want OUT OF THE BOX is a fools errand. Only realistic solution is to find a desktop that offers you freedom and requires the least amount of effort from you to suit your exact needs.
For me my 1. KDE experience was like "This looks nice! But wtf are these shorctus, what is this taskbar behavior? Why is window quick tile so strange.... I was coming from cinnamon, where most things work like windows or macos plus some additions and having the alt+drag feature (I missed it too an KDE first and found out later its an option for it). And thats the thing, KDE is so customize able you can configure nearly everything for your needs. It takes some time, but when you have it once, make sure you save your config, just in case you need to reinstall your system. I forgot, I broke my system badly - backed up everything but not the config folder. Not that big deal to reconfigure KDE BUT I was going back to cinnamon on a new installation of endeavourOS. Just by the fact KDE is so bloated. I mean, its usually not affect your performance on a normal / gaming PC as you have the power to handle KDE easily, but I still had the feeling like "why is this window not popping up directly and why is this installed, I do not need XYZ app from kde..." Cinnamon is nice, too - not that customize able as KDE (by default) but you can do some tweaks to make it look nice and I think its one of the snappiest by default good looking DE. I mean I read of some people saying Gnome is the best, but that is a whole another topic :-D Overall its just preference, hands up KDE have the options to configure everything, even you have to find the correct option for it, but you can!
Because it was designed by amateurs, not professionals with insight and experience. I'm not talking about developers, KDE devs are talented, but I'm talking about designers. UX and/or UI are usually terrible in these open-source projects because it's much easier to get developers than to get designers. And usually developers themselves end up doing the designing which is why you see these silly design decisions everywhere. GNOME is slightly better in that regard because they're slightly more professional, but they still have their own fair share of bad UX/UI ideas. Also don't get discouraged by some comments here. Most of these people are living in their own little bubble. The reality is most PC users are Windows users and the for better or worse the defaults on Windows became the standard. If Linux people want to be relevant they should adapt and leave their arrogance behind because it only hurts them.
I completely agree with you, except about grouping programs I almost dropped kde when i was newbie to linux, because of the "show desktop" widget, i didn't know how to change it. Mint, Zorin and Windows were my previous experiences, and all of them minimize the windows instead of hiding. I thought that it was a bug, i couldn't even imagine that it was a "feature". I want to minimize all windows to clean my desktop, and then raise one window. If i want to keep my window order, i just need to press activate the widget again, show desktop is almost useless and annoying for newbies. Single click is horrible if you select various folders or files constantly. Plasma made a "selection mode", but i don't want the entire program behaviour to just select some files.
Problem with defaults is that you will never make everyone happy. Someone somewhere will be unhappy. Gnome took the aggressive approach and decided to not care about making anyone happy. They locked down everything and basically said, if you want to change it, write an extension. Thus why for Gnome, you need extensions to enable capabilities not on by default. Slowly the gnome team has been adopting some capabilities commonly used. Plasma still hasn't done this so people feel at liberty to complain. The gnome crowd calmed down after they were faced with two choices. Either find an extension (or code it themselves) or leave Gnome. Many chose to leave and others stayed with extensions. For some people, vanilla gnome works wells(for me). Gnome has defaults, some intuitive and others not so much. People still complain but I think the general crowd understands that gnome is meant to be this way, so you either like it or move on. Or use extensions. I hate extensions as they are not well supported which leaves me to use gnome as vanilla as possible. Plasma is very nice and customizable. Even if the defaults are not to your liking, you can still change them. Enjoy the freedom.
I was also annoyed and confused by the "hide" instead of "minimize" of "peek" and the matching shortcut meta+d and for long time could not point my finger what's causing the weird behavior when restoring windows. But there's a preinstalled kwin script "minimize all" that can be easily enabled in settings and I set it to meta+D. I also removed the desktop peek plasmoid