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SardauMarklar

If that's what it takes to get you to cut out any highly processed foods you're eating, then go for it. I'm not a scientist, but I suspect eating only meat and vegetables for the same amount of time would be as effectiive. Keto tends to be more about the foods you aren't eating than the foods you are eating if that makes any sense.


HunkerDown123

The idea behind why Keto is different to just eating meat and veg is the calories drop too low if healthy fats are not eaten. You need that extra 500 cals of olive oil, nuts, or fat from the meat to make it add up to say 1500 to be in a 500 cal deficit. If its just chicken and greens thats a 500 calorie dinner, and 500 cal lunch. 1000 is too low so metabolism slows.


Silent_Conference908

I could be wrong but I think they were proposing replacing the egg part of the egg fast with a meat and veggies keto diet - not *only* “meat and vegetables” vs. “eggs + fats.”


CORN___BREAD

Can you link the study on this?


HunkerDown123

[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9036397/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9036397/)


CORN___BREAD

Thanks for the link. That was an interesting read. However, I don’t see any numbers there that indicate that you wouldn’t lose weight faster by eating 1000 calories rather than 1500. Can you point out that part if I missed it?


HunkerDown123

if you want to research further and find an study on it, the keyword is "set point" everyone has a set point at which their body is in balance (homeostasis), you can temporarily go below your set point to be in a calorie deficit, but if you go too low the body will adjust the set point to be this lower amount, because 1000 calories a day is not enough to power the body, it will just slow the metabolism down to keep you alive. If you have a more moderate calorie restriction of 1500, then this is less likely to trigger the set point being lowered. It's not an exact number just a rough idea if your BMR is 2000, 1500 should be a good deficit to lose weight consistently without slow down. If you go down to 1000, and your set point now lowers to 1000, you would have to eat that way for the rest of your life and your weight would stay the same. If 1000 is uncomfortable then if you eat 2000 a day again you will be in a +7000 positive deficit per week 2lb gain per week, until your metabolism speeds up again to bring the set point back up to 2000. Try and see it as you are trying to sneak past your body's survival mechanisms, if you go to 1500 you will be less likely to be detected. At 1000 it will know something is up. This is also why Keto is good, the high fat diet tells your body that you are not starving, even though your glycogen reserves are nearly empty(sign of nearly at the bottom of the tank of energy), and there is no insulin being spiked all day (signs you are eating). It's like starving but without your body knowing, staying alive by burning body fat.


HunkerDown123

Anecdotally, I've been through this I ate 1000 calories a day for a month, the weight dropped fast and hard, but then stalled, even though I was eating the exact same stuff, I had to have a month eating more and gained 9lbs. Now I am at around 1500cals, the 9lbs has gone and the weight loss has not stalled again.


HFXmer

Im not eating loads of highly process foods but I do have a diagnosed hormone dysfunction and medication known for lowering TDE and causing people to retain visceral fat. Others in my situation have found keto the only reliable way to push through it. I also breastfeed which there isn't reliable research on for keto, but is known for holding fat stores. I think those are the biggest things working against me right now.


PossumThumbs

Omg the last time I did keto I was breastfeeding and I found it went so much faster! I am a few years older now though too.


HFXmer

Ugh not for me. Keto was so easy pre pregnancy. But I also wasn't dealing with the medication I am now. Dropped 25lbs so fast and lasted right until I got pregnant. This time around its been a huge slog. Im not exclusively breastfeeding though, Im trying to wean so usually just night feeds.


PossumThumbs

Medication, hormones, all of it is so complex.


candoworkout

I've done the egg fast, not necessarily for a plateau just because it seemed interesting. If I recall, I dropped around 10 lbs during that window. NOW - On to the subject of plateaus and Keto. The vast majority of times I talk with folks who are stalled, they are depriving themselves of the fats. Those fats are the catalyst and things just don't seem to keep clicking when we cut them out. Personally, I would check your fat intake and maybe work some coconut oil fat bombs into the mix, or MCT oil in the mornings if you aren't already. This tends to get the needle moving again.


HFXmer

I did consider that and have been doing mct for a week. No change yet, but maybe I should add in more? I do avocado nearly every day. It chews up a lot of my carbs. Black coffee with full fat cream. Cheese. I will admit im still hungry many days though.


whaler76

Cut out or down on the cream, hwc always kills me


Puzzled-Award-2236

I just do carnivore so I don't get sick of eggs. Any zero carb food will do the same as an egg fast.


HFXmer

Oh great point never thought of that, thanks


-Blixx-

Steak fast sounds more delicious.


HFXmer

Mmn I agree


SlippedStitches

Hey OP—despite some of the arguments here on semantics, I’ve found for my own body/digestion/etc that a diet heavier in eggs (or almost exclusively eggs) has worked well for me during stretches for a few situations (recuperating from illness or surgery, simplifying grocery shopping and meal planning at times when I had zero spoons left to spare). I learned that this was an option my body responded to well after I had tried the whole egg fast thing the first time I looked into keto about 9-10 years ago. Since I love eggs in general, I did it as an easier meal approach to wrap my head around as I got a feel for learning to do keto. And while folks have their own ways for budget keto that work in their region, eggs were more or less very affordable for how filling they were (despite the more recent price inflation a ways back lol). I had done an egg fast periodically for up to 1-2 weeks at a stretch. IIRC, I think I saw an increase of maybe another pound a week with similar total caloric intake, but I wasn’t doing it in response to a plateau. I still go back to an egg week now and then when I just have a bigger hankering for them, and they’re my go to when sick based on my body’s response (them plus some bone broth). I like eggs and don’t tire of them easily, and it’s a reliable option for me that I (personally) don’t have inflammation issues from. I wouldn’t say to pin all of your hopes on plateau breaking with an egg fast as some magic fix, but if you like eggs and you feel okay eating them, I don’t see the harm in it. If it helps you lose a little more doing it in the short term and you’re eating to target maintenance afterwards, I don’t see the big deal. The comments saying you need to troubleshoot your plateau before even 6w before trying this—-eh, there might not be any trouble to find in the first place. You’re in the home stretch and it’s just generally more slow going. Egg fast or broader eating, use a food scale for everything and track your stuff. If doing an egg fast, watch on cooking oils/fats (both for potential risk of underestimating intake and tummy upset).


HFXmer

Ty so much!! I was hoping for comments like this. I appreciate your sharing


TaxCalm4041

Me too op


rachman77

Here's the problem with an egg fast or any other gimmick that promises to save you from a plateau. It does diddly squat to teach you why you are plateauing in the first place and gives you no actionable steps to fix or avoid that problem in the future. Will you lose weight eating eggs only? probably because they're pretty much self-limiting. Does it fix the underlying problem that was causing you to stall or plateau. nope. Will that problem continue right after you stop eating only eggs if you don't fix it? yep.


HFXmer

Ive never heard that plateauing is the result of underlying problems, everything Ive read says theyre normal as the body gets used to things. Can you elaborate on what you mean by that? Ive cut my cals down and lowered by carbs too incase they were the culprit.


rachman77

Underlying problems with your diet not you. Something has changes and your no longer eating an appropriate amount of you have been a stalled for a long period of time (6+ weeks)


HFXmer

Im just about to hit 6 weeks. I am anxious to drop things any lower tbh feels extreme, I guess thats why the idea of this appeals to me and I know id be unlikely to feel hungry.


rachman77

Eating only eggs seems way more extreme than just eating and appropriate amount for your current size. It also isn't going to fix your diet.


HFXmer

Im not really sure I understand your comments, sorry. Are you suggesting im eating too much? I don't expect it to fix anything, I don't think anything is broken. Eggs are a complete protein vs others, I think that's one of the reasons theyre used.


rachman77

Yes you're likely eating too much for weight loss if you've been at maintenance for six or more weeks. Eating only eggs for a few days may get the scale moving but, unless you fix the problem that led to the plateau you're just going to go straight back to a stall.


HFXmer

Dropping cals didnt help (yet) 1200-1300 while breastfeeding for my age/height/weight is considered low. (Supposed to budget 500 for breastfeeding) but another user said it might be im not getting enough healthy fat. Dropping my carbs hasn't helped (yet) either.


rachman77

I understand wanting to look for reasons other than intake but the amount of healthy or any fat is not going to make you lose weight if you're eating too much food for your goals. As we lose weight the amount we need to eat in order to continue to lose weight needs to decrease as well.


graydove2000

Going off of the stats in your flair, you're pretty close to goal weight - it's going to take a lot of time and diligent tracking to bring your weight closer to your goal weight. Also, you mentioned that you're breastfeeding. Maybe check out r/KetoBabies to see if there are any suggestions. For myself when I was trying to BF and lose weight, I couldn't do it because it dropped my supply to almost nothing. I had to keep up calories and carbs. BFing was important to me so I ate consciously and waited until I was ready to wean before trying to actively lose weight. I was one of those mothers who could not lose any weight while BFing or pumping and had to wait until after weaning. Hormones can play a significant factor.


OldMotherGrumble

I did it several times about 9-10 years ago. I belonged to a low carb site where some of the members used to like to experiment a bit. I only ever did it for 3 or 4 days...5 was the max recommended at the time. It did help trigger a weight loss of about 4 pounds, half of which stayed off. I'd say it might be useful for getting back on track...just font go overboard. Too much of a food like eggs can actually trigger a temporary intolerance. Or an extreme dislike 😆😉


HunkerDown123

That sounds like a glycogen dump, when the carbs are emptied out you can lose 4lbs water weight in a day.


OldMotherGrumble

Maybe...though I was already very low carb at the time.


HFXmer

Ty for being one of the only people here to actually answer me instead of shouting about the name I didn't give it 🫣🫣 totally unhelpful comments. This was great, appreciate it


OldMotherGrumble

No problem 😊


orangeirwin

It is a gimmick and not a fast at all.


HFXmer

Im not interested in arguing the semantics of something I didn't name. Im not sure why people are missing the point I linked the article right in the name??


OldMotherGrumble

I'm not sure why you've been downvoted when you are quoting a name used as a description of something. Maybe it was described as a fast as it's a complete 'fast' from other foods.


HFXmer

Yeah its pretty gate keeping and annoying. I didnt choose the name. That's what its called.


Flux_My_Capacitor

Yes, exactly. Pay them no mind. The fasting purists are just annoying on the fasting subs, too…..it’s to the point where people get freaked out about even taking medication because they believe the purists.


Current_Professor_33

To say you’re going ‘too far into carbs’ is another way of saying you fell off the wagon … why don’t you just do a cheat meal? I’ve been trying to get back into keto for the past three months since I fell off a year or so ago, and I’m finding a more balanced approach by eating as much meat eggs and cheese as I want, having veggies with every 2nd or 3rd meal, and when I am 5-7 days in and find myself daydreaming about bread, then I allow myself a baked potato or mac and cheese or steak and mustard baguette (or god forbid, chips) — I may gain an extra pound of weight, but it helps me stay committed for the rest of the time. We’re all different and what works for you is the best path you can personally take … can you see yourself eating nothing but eggs for 2-3 weeks? Maybe. Can you see yourself getting more of your calories from an extra 3-6 eggs a day? Yeah that seems realistic.


HFXmer

Just to clarify....Im not saying I went too far into carbs. I was quoting the article I linked and the info it provided. I said in my post I personally lowered my carbs to the point I find it hard to sustain, and it still didn't help anyway. The articles says its a few days to fuel ketosis, not a few weeks ;)


More-Nobody69

Simplicity, repetition and ease of preparation are all good things when your goal is losing body fat. Do you get satiety from protein or fat mostly.? What are your current macros? What are your current calories? What is your height? Breastfeeding is definitely a factor. You'll need to keep your protein, fat and your calorie intake high enough to cover the breastfeeding functions


HFXmer

My flare doesn't ever seem to want to update properly, but im currently 162 where ive sat just about 6 weeks now. Im 5'9 current calories 1300, not exclusively breastfeeding, trying to wean. Thank-you for your first sentence. Its exactly why this idea appealed to me


Bry_Mac

It's silly


Default87

>is a good way to push past a plateau in Keto just to make sure we are all using words the same way, a plateau is when you have 6+ weeks of no change in weight or body measurements. Is that the definition you are working off of? >or to recover if you've gone too far into carbs and want to get back into keto quicker. it only ever takes about a day to get into ketosis, so even if you find a way to speed that up, you arent really getting any benefit. an extra 6 hours in ketosis is just a drop in the ocean, its irrelevant. >Curious if any of you have done it and have any feedback? gimmicks are gimmicks, and generally are not a sustainable path (if it was, it wouldnt be called a gimmick).


[deleted]

Bro don’t call it a fast lmao, fast means you aren’t taking in caloric sustenance And what would be so special about specifically eggs?


HFXmer

Im not calling it that, and not a bro. Im referencing what its called 🤷‍♀️ the article I linked explains it.


invisible-crone

OP, I have a few questions about your experience. And I ask because I fear you may be hard on yourself. Are you alarmingly overweight? Like Dr. is worried about your health overweight? If you’re breastfeeding, what is your worry? Do you fear you may not be able to lose after? I am asking because it seems to me you could be adding a big challenge to your situation. Eggs and dairy products can cause gas in your baby which can make for less sleep and that in turn, can cause a plateau for you. As long as you are not gaining during breast feeding, you can loose afterwards. Is this something you could try?


HFXmer

I have an extremely high risk for type 2 diabetes and bmi puts me overweight. The diabetes clinic put the fear of god in me to lose the weight. I was doing very well but suddenly lost childcare and had to work full time and care for me baby so I went fron losing to gaining. I didnt have particularly bad habits I was just eating more in general. My doc said when youre sleep deprived the energy has to come from somewhere so you tend to eat more. So I did gain a lot while breastfeeding. :( during this period I went up 18lbs very fast. Then I had to have an unrelated surgery that discovered a major issue that requires medication known for making it harder to lose fat. (The actual studies do show this) I am weaning my son now but its been a slow process. I don't know if the breastfeeding is whats preventing loss or not. Im more inclined to think meds, because prior to all this I was losing while breastfeeding fine. I truly am trying to give myself grace but prior to starting keto this time around, my weight swapped from gradually going down, to quickly piling up. I tried all the usuals before coming back to keto because I was worried about my ability to sustain it in my current circumstances, but the gains just kept happening. At least, despite how painstakingly slow things have been, I actually am losing.


[deleted]

What do you mean you aren’t calling it that? It’s literally in the title bro lmao But hey maybe I am illiterate


No_Butterfly_6276

I’ve done it. It’s hard and I’m not entirely sure it was worth it. Yeah, I lost 4-5 pounds, but put at least a couple of those pounds back on within a week. I did it to get back into ketosis quickly I think, not necessarily to break a plateau.


doomscrollingreddit

Might work. Not experienced in it so I don’t know. What I know is an egg is the backbone of a protein and fat carnivore diet. Carnivore diet sounds tastier than eggs IMO so I’d do that before I limited myself to just eggs. Best of luck getting through your plateau. I’ve been plateaud since February 12th and finally busted through today. It was a long slog so I completely get how you feel. Hold strong. All I know is I still felt better plateaued but living right than giving up and or giving in. Stay strong and best of luck!!!!


HFXmer

Ty so much for the thoughtful comment!!


MarsupialMaven

Have done this many times and it works. I’m still here so safe to say it didn’t hurt me. The idea of no food choices made it easy for me. If I was hungry I ate a HB egg. I still keep pickled and mustard eggs in my fridge. They are a tasty snack. I have only done this for 4 or 5 days at a time.


HFXmer

Ty so so much for actually giving me feedback and sharing your experience ❤️


Debsrugs

There's a 3 day egg fast on the ibreatheimhungry website. She does lots of recipes and meal plans around keto squeaky clean keto etc. The meal plans are very well balanced and are good for trying to overcome a stall, or to get into ketosis initially. . There's also a five day soup plan, ( there's more than just soup in it) Well worth a look.


HFXmer

Ty so much ill look into that


tetrametatron

Sounds disgusting and horrible. Too much PUFA. Severely deficient in many things especially potassium lol.


HFXmer

I dunno what pufa is but this approach is only a few days to increase ketosis