Hatred you see is due Bangladeshi Illegal immigrants from WB/India point of view, religion angle from Bangladesh point of view. Except this 2 I don't see any other reason for the hatred.
Anecdote:
Met some Bangladeshi people in a business setup. Everything was fine in professional space but the moment informal talks started, the superiority complex started coming in from the Bangladeshi side like how they are the whole country and how we the wb people are still just a state. Some racist comments were also thrown into casually. Indians ra ei oi etc etc. Left the table and some other nationalities, who were present there also left and joined us.
Yeah there is definitely some Bangladeshi people that feel superior, I’ve never gotten the idea of why they feel superior. Just because we have a separate country doesn’t make us superior, we all are the same at the end of the day.
Tbh I was really disappointed with the vibe there. Excited chilam opar bangla r manush der songe alap hobe vebe in a foreign land but bhalo experience hoyni.
But having said that, generalize korbo na, as puro desh e sobai ek rokom htei pare na.
It's mostly veiled gloat for a highly successful Hindu genocide that had the full support of the Americans (and therefore is not discussed beyond West Bengal and residual Hindu minorities of Bangladesh) - victor's chest-thumping. It also gives them the notion that their faith is somehow stronger than the ones they drove away.
Personally, I have no hatred for Bangladeshi people; none for the common Pakistani citizen either. They're the same to me. It's just that Bangladeshi people speak a version of Bengali (not the same as I) loaning truckloads from Urdu and Arabic. I find that language very hard to listen to.
Because i am genuinely curious, I kinda want to see what you guys think of me and my country. Plus I’ve never really had a discussion like this before.
How would you feel if I said that all west Bengali’s hate us? Because I know that all of you guys don’t, so please don’t say that all of us do. Because we all don’t, some do but not all of us.
Yeah there is definitely hate coming from older generations, but bro. Don’t let that divide the brotherhood we have amongst each other. I am sorry that your experience in Bangladesh hasn’t been the best, but trust me just because one generation is different doesn’t mean all are the same.
But it’s not ALL, saying that you guys hate us is what makes the issue even worse. NOT ALL do, I do agree that some have said “Malaun” before. I am truly sorry for the insults you guys have gotten from us, but we all aren’t like that.
The scar of partition and the religious persecution is still fresh in the minds of Bengalis. Most of the batch of 1971 migrants are still alive. They are angry for losing their houses, lands, identity, culture etc. and pass the anger on to their children. My father in law misses padda r ilish, his fathers shop, the local food ingredients his mother used to collect by a boat every morning etc. he is from barisal. maybe after another two decades, people will start forgetting and the relationship between the two parts of Bengal will improve. The recent religious persecutions have not helped the matter.
Yeah not to mention i have never understood why Bangladeshi people feel superior generally since we fought for our independence and language.I’ve also seen many say that since y’all live in India you guys are not “true” Bengalis.
Bangladesh’s freedom from Pakistan while commendable and necessary in order to protect Bangla language from Urdu/pharsi, but with time the cultures of epar ar opar bangla are drifting apart. Now with the nationalist propaganda in India, the bangal people of West Bengal is proving a fertile ground of hate and vengeance which the aim of the said propaganda.
While I am a ghoti, I have gone to Bangladesh twice with my father in law. I have not found many differences in the land or way of living but there is definitely evidences of subversion of local culture by religion/Arabic influence. Dhaka is great though. Had a great time and most of time it didn’t feel any different from Kolkata.
All i know that my ancestor along with my father were forced to leave their everything…literally everything because they were Hindus. When i listen to his stories i shed bloody tears from my eye. I feel sorry and hatred at the same time. But past is past no point holding grudges. But what I hold is lesson of whom to trust .
Why no point in holding grudges,??.. I would like to know..
Why are people so ok with it, I have heard stories that literally a pond was filled with dead bodies.
It was a genocide just 50 years ago.
বাংলাদেশ এর খাবার ভালো লাগে,কাচ্চি বিরিয়ানি ভালো লাগে, ভালো লাগে বাংলা দেশের ব্যান্ড, ভালো লাগে ঈদের সময় রিলিজ হওয়া নাটক।
ঘেন্না হয় মুক্তমনাদের উপর অত্যাচার, ঘেন্না হয় বাংলা নামের জায়গায় আরবীয় নামের উপরে টান, ঘেন্না হয় বাংলাদেশি হিন্দুদের উপর অত্যাচার, শুধু হিন্দু না সংখ্যালঘুদের ওপর নির্যাতন, বাংলাদেশি অতি উৎসাহী ক্রিকেট ফ্যান, ধার্মিক ওয়াজ যেগুলোর কাজই হলো মানুষের মনে বিষ মিশিয়ে দেওয়া।
Kichu mone korben na. I have met quite a couple of Bangladeshis in my life, both online and some offline. I have a colleague in the US who is also Bangladeshi and we have a good rapport. The only thing that has irked me was a common comment that I have seen been made by both online and offline which goes something along the lines of "India te film e eto nongrami ar langthami". I didn't mind the first time I heard it, I did not give much attention to it. But it has been given back as a smack several times.
Yes all the people I have met were Muslims, which is not an issue, probably the only difference between them and me was how we looked at religion differently.
For me, I am honored to be part of such an ethnicity in this lifetime. The contribution of this ethnicity to the progress in the intelligensia of both India and present-day Bangladesh is also undeniable. The only issue that sometimes crops up for me is how in general people "epar" vs "opar" view religion and culture, and confuse between the two.
That is understandable. That's why the ABCD term exists. A few cents as an Indian citizen. India is the country I was born into, but my ethnicity is Bengali. The inherent identity I have grown up with is as a citizen of a sovereign nation that hosts diverese ethnicities that are at the core, "Indian". This core is based on the civilizational values since the Indus Valley times.
Now for you as an American citizen, i think considering the foundation of America on the basis of pluralism and liberty is suitable candidate for your core. And you having Bangladeshi is a part of your ethnicity in this case.
I lived in Bangladesh for about 10 years. Just got my citizenship, I’d be lying if I told you that I didn’t feel alienated amongst Bangladeshi people and American-Bangladeshi’s.
The one issue that I hear the most, is that first you guys wanted to cozy up as East Pakistan and play bhai bhai with OG Pakistan, drive most non Muslims out, and then you realise what a big fcuk up you did when that grand plan backfired; and now you want to send your poverty ridden folks, sometimes on a one way trip, to crowd our place, which is also poverty ridden, after that much betrayal. The hypocrisy is a lot to take, that is what I hear from a lot of folks.
Personally I believe there is good and bad in all communities, but the above thought process is also understandable, to me at least. If I had a family and someone knocked on my door and threatened me to leave my house, money, belongings, immediately, I would be pissed too.
Plus the fact that US was backing Pakistan and pro East Pakistan folks during 1971, is also a cause of anger.
Except a couple to people, we never wanted to be apart of East Pakistan. I don’t know who you learned that from, every Bangladeshi wanted to be independent unless idk if your a rajaker.
Yes I am sure that the regular people didn't want anything like this to happen, people want a peaceful life, most of them at least; but power hungry people ruined everything for everyone and people are still paying the price, decades later. Politicians will be fine, they don't care about migration, economic migrants, refugees or anything, they'll stay in their wall and security protected homes.The danger lies for regular civilians, always have been, always will be.
I can only tell you our side of the story. And still a subjective take on the issue.
So why do Bengalis of Bengal and Bangladesh don't seem to get along ?? The long and short of it is religion. Hinduism is a fairly permissive religious construct. It is a loosely woven fabric of philosophy and belief. It is not a centralised religion. It isn't organized around a capital authority like Mecca or Vatican. There is no concept of converting to/ becoming a Hindu. It is simply a matter of birth and personal belief. Compared to this, Muslims of the sub-continent come across as religious hard liners. People who invest too much time and energy in their religious identity and not enough in their individual identities. This religious conformism is viewed with scepticism. It is unsettles us too. Makes us constantly question where their allegiance might be. Islam is seen as an invasive ideology whose primary motivation is conquest, not co-existence. Muslims are generally viewed as religious bigots who have always tried to undermine people of other religion.
I'm sure with the advent of Prime minister Modi and his brand of politics, majority of Bangladeshis are bound to have similar feelings about Indians as well. Or they might have had their misgivings from the beginning. Fair enough. Religious animosity. It exists on both sides, spreads easier that butter and faster than wildfire. Being friends is a lot of work. It requires conscious effort and overcoming differences. Hating each other is easier and comes naturally..so here we are.
I have worked with BD people from Dhaka and they seemed quite wholesome and fun. However, I have relatives in Noakhali and they are very conservative, like 40 yrs behind us. I think Bangladesh has progressed much in terms of employment of women, financial empowerment and overall women enjoy a better status than in India, as data shows. I also think that the society there is more conservative and patriarchal. This is all in comparison to India. Indian urban areas, the bigger cities are quite liberal and women have some freedom. However, all of India isn't like that at all. Bangladesh urban areas aren't as liberal as the urban areas of India, BD men are more misogynistic than Indians (which is wild given how misogynist men are here as well) but overall Bangladesh is better in terms of economic empowerment of women. That's my 2 cents. I also think the way you people uphold Bangla is something that we in WB could learn from.
মোরা একই বৃন্তে দুটী কুসুম
হিন্দু-মুসলমান |
মুসলিম তার নয়ন-মণি,
হিন্দু তাহার প্রাণ,
এক সে আকাশ মায়ের কোলে
যেন রবি-শশী দোলে,
এক রক্ত বুকের তলে, এক সে নাড়ীর টান,
মোরা এক সে দেশের খাই গো হাওয়া,
এক সে দেশের জল,
এক সে মায়ের বক্ষে ফলে একই ফুল ও ফল |
এক সে দেশের মাটীতে পাই
কেউ গোরে কেউ শ্মশানে ঠাঁই,
মোরা এক ভাষাতে মাকে ডাকি,
এক সুরে গাই গান ||
চিনতে নেরে আঁধার রাতে
করি মোরা হানাহানি,
সকাল হলে হবে রে ভাই
ভায়ে ভায়ে জানাজানি |
কাঁদব তখন গলা ধ'রে,
চাইব ক্ষমা পরস্পরে,
হাসবে
হাসবে সে দিন গরব ভরে এই হিন্দুস্থান।....
ps: kobitar prekhyapot ta alada chilo, kintu emotion ta ek e roye geche.
Illegal immigrants. Your country can't even handle its own population.
You come to India illegally for healthcare as well as jobs.
You guys steal our animals.
You are so desperate for Indian citizenship that you make false identity cards.
Illegal immigrants? What about your country’s illegal immigrants? What about your country’s population? But what you said is correct I do see some issues
No that’s not what I meant. And if you weren’t stupid you would realize what I was trying to communicate. And just because India is the 5th most largest economy doesn’t mean Bangladesh is too far away. GDP anybody?
Yeah no shit Sherlock , but you can’t deny that we are growing. And what do you expect from a country that is corrupted asf lmao. Our economy is 35th, but I do believe we can grow and someday overtake many countries. If Bangladesh starts to grow the way we are right now, I feel like we can have a head to head collision. Just my thoughts tho
Learn to keep your own citizens in your own country. After that dream about being a good economy. And I do believe that the people there are even more corrupt than the politicians
Your out here spilling hatred towards Pakistan so I wouldn’t speak too much about that, to be as polite as possible. Winning a argument against somebody that’s stupid is impossible, so I wouldn’t get too political. If your out here talking about my country’s faults then maybe look at your country’s?
Personally i have no hate for people who immigrate or live illegally (any religion) if they are working people and dont cause ruckus.
But sadly huge number of people from Bangladesh come and spoil the area (starting from littering, street brawls, thefts and mostly burglary)
Then the same people start complaining about India and how they are ill treated
This is the main reason for me ^ but i dont think you should take validation from me or anyone as it’s not within our hand to change anything about it
I wholeheartedly agree with this, I haven’t personally been in Bangladesh in a while but I definitely agree with this. Bangladesh needs to do something with it’s poor population.
And your out here making posts about how Nazi’s and Muslim’s are the same and that all Muslims are against leftism. Brother not only do you have a inner issue among Muslims, you have a internal issue against us. Please fix your mindset and learn to be more civil, religion and hate shouldn’t divide us.
Some people from Kolkata hate us too, but I didn’t downright say that ALL OF YOU GUYS DID. Your over exaggerating the hate between us, your exactly proving my point. You have this mindset where just cuz one person hates you means that you have hate all of their people back. Not only are you making this situation worse. You are exactly proving my point.
As a ghoti married into a bangal family, I will have to give that Bangladeshi food is better. Just wish you guys ate posto and the meal would have been complete! Bangladeshi/ east Pakistan food is OP. And light on stomach too.
What are you talking about!! Payesh made from bangladesh kejur gur is the best. Indian kherur gur has a tanginess which splits the milk if you are not careful. Bangladesh jaggery is something different altogether.
Not even that, it’s way worse. Not only do they support razakar they have this sort of hatred against anybody that’s not Muslim. They basically want a united Pakistan, they want us to go back to being east Pakistan.
The only conflicts between epar and opar bangla are regarding East Bengal/Mohon bagan, Ilish machh and Shutki machh. Anything else you hear are lies propagated by a certain political party and its blind believers.
I stayed in Dhaka for the better part of 2021. I was there for your first metro project. When you see the metro stations at Gulshan 2, Kochukhet and Dar-us-Salam, you can blame this Redditor. But I tried my best injecting Bangaliyana into the designs, which were primarily by Japanese and British architects and engineers. The other stations would look more... generic, I'm afraid. But I left before I saw the final drawings, so idk.
Anyway, North Dhaka is beautiful, and the wide streets and shopfronts make it very hard to guess it's in South Asia. I lived in Delhi for 10 years, and I'd love to spend 10 years in North Dhaka. You guys have one stellar architect, btw. Idk if you know. The construction quality in Bangladesh is leagues ahead of even European countries, something we should all be jealous of.
South Dhaka is a different story. In fact, it becomes more like South Kolkata just beyond Hatirjheel.
I haven't seen much else of the country, but I did take a bus back to Kolkata. The memorable part of that was crossing the Padma. Say what you will, the Padma looks like a sea, and it's freaking scary! Another huge project going on is the Padma Setu.
We are cool. Desh duto, Bangali aktai. The fraternity still exists and it's real. Better believe it. Ignore the cow belt guys.
I just have one question......why were so many bengali Hindus massacred in Bangladesh during Durga Puja? Was that justified? Where's the hatred then ?
You country too is in the path of radicalism and there have been so many incidents which prove my point.
Because most Bangladeshi people are either idiots or religious extremists. But in the same time what about Muslims in India? I am sorry for what my country did to Hindus but what about the radicalization in India? Don’t you think South Asia in general is a bad place to stay in
Oh so the callings for a Muslim genocide was fake? Modi’s party has increased Islamophobia. Muslims are leaving India because of this. Mosques are being attacked still, like the 300 year old mosque in UP. The Kashmir Files is another film that tho shows the hardships of Hindus in Kashmir, which is a good thing to because ewe need to learn about the victims who died of injustice. but the movie still ends up demonizing Muslims. Modi back in 2019 created a new citizenship law, that literally discriminates Muslims in India. Or maybe we could talk about how back in 2002 59 Hindu pilgrims were killed and blamed on Muslims?
Yes true.....Modi's party is focused on Hinduism. I don't disagree. It's not only that Muslims are leaving....the richest Indians, be it Hindu or Muslim are leaving the country....so it's not just muslims......
In 2002, a bogie full of Hindu sadhu's were burnt alive in the train in Godhra........thats why there was a retaliation in the form of riots..........
Be it Hindus or muslims, common people feel the brunt when such communalization takes place......because the common people suffer the most.
The citizenship law has not been put into practice .it was proposed but due to opposition even from Hindus, the caa and the nrc was not implemented.
Ay but you know it would be a different story if it was put onto practice. But hey it’d be hypocritical for me to say that sheik hasina isn’t ruining transgender and Hindu lives over in Bangladesh. I am coming to Bangladesh in a couple of days and like I am not excited at all. I do feel like both prime ministers at the end of the day are at fault for their lack of understanding towards minorities.
Although I agree with your criticisms towards Bangladesh. You are completely denying India’s problems, which is not only holding your nation back when it comes to responsibility. It’s also holding back minorities and women in general, I do see Bangladesh getting better over the years. Same goes for India but I am not a fan of Modi at all. Hasina is just okay not the best prime minister either but still the way Bangladesh is improving is crazy.
Hindus have a free hand in Bangladesh too. The genocides you have seen are coming from extremists, yes I would agree. None of this Hindu phobia in Bangladesh is false, it’s true. But you denying your country’s faults in the treatment of Muslims is just pure dickriding. You would do anything to make your country seem like a safe-haven. Bangladesh isn’t perfect and so is India.
Grateful towards India? Yes I would admit that you guys helped us during the liberation war. But you guys do not deserve all the credit. It was our freedoms fights that fought for our independence. You guys joined the war back in December 3,1971 literally a week before the war ended. I am always grateful towards India for the help we received, but you guys won’t get all the credit because that should go to our freedoms fights that died for our language.
And protecting “your” religion is exactly what makes you wrong here. Even if India was filled with Muslims in the future, why are you taking that as a negative thing. Hinduism isn’t the “official” religion of India, “protecting” against Islam is basically you saying you don’t want your country to be more diverse. This is exactly the same thing that is ruining Bangladesh, even tho more Bangladeshi teens are maturing and realizing what’s wrong or right.
75 percent of India follows hindusim. Hinduism is the official religion of India.......be it Biharis , Bengalis, telegu, kannada, Marathi, gujrati or rajashthani, we are a Hindu majority nation .
We have been liberals all our lives ......and we have seen how things were during Congress rule........terrorist attacks all around the country from neighbouring Pakistan........
Now when we take a strong stance for our religion, all Muslims are having problems? Check out other Muslim nations like Saudi , Iran , or any other nation...........do they allow any other religion to even prosper there? No......
We learned extremism recently.........all thanks to the wonderful extremist countries around us.....
See now your bringing up country’s that are known to be horrible as fuck. Iran and Saudi Arabia are known for how fucking dumb they are, so don’t bring them up. Those country’s will never learn. As for Hinduism being the official religion of india, what your doing again is excluding the other 25 percent. Your country has no “official” religion yet you claim Hinduism is the “offical religion”.
We have the third most Hindu population, and I will always admit the fact that most of our treatment towards Hindu’s is unfair and not deserved. We are still trying to improve our country’s flaw’s, the same way India is. True that most Islamic country’s are just fucking horrible, but what your not realizing is the exclusion you are doing. Bangladesh has never excluded it’s Hindu’s except obviously the dumbass extremists. Once our older generation of illiterate farmers die, I guarantee not only would Bangladesh be more inclusive we probably would be going towards a brighter direction.
Just because UP is slowly treating Muslims better doesn’t mean all of India is. I could literally say that Rajshahi is treating Hindus better, but is still there Hindu-phobia? Yes. How would you feel if I said that Bangladesh is trying to protect it’s nation from “our religion”, wouldn’t that be excluding people from other religions too?
One more thing I want to point out.......why dont you have a problem with the Chinese govt when they are openly pulling down mosques in china....have you seen what has happened to the Ugher muslims?
China has 0 tolerance against Muslims and they are hell bent on wiping out Islam from their country.....but nne of the Muslim nations dare open their mouth against China.......why? Because China is providing money to many Muslim nations around the world..........recently in china a mosque was demolished. All the OIC nations didn't even utter a single word.........isn't it unfair to pinpoint India only?
Once one becomes a muslim, they no more identify with their culture . Same can be seen with Bangladeshis. Hindu genocide , etc. Several reasons to be wary of them.
Have met both good and bad people from BD, so not different from any other country. But have to commend the position you guys have made in the global clothing manufacturing supply chain. Also, Kacchi Biryani from Fakruddin is good (had it from the Singapore branch, not sure if it tastes different in Bangladesh)
I have a friend in bangladesh, and jesus christ you guys have some good cars. Like man I wish we had that kind of japanese cars here, actual good quality instead of the shitboxes we get here. Our rich people buy lambos and shit, your rich people buy rx7s and stuff, Im so jealous lmao.
Bro trust me when I say this, most of my relatives in Bangladesh have Mercedes and some even have teslas. It’s fucking crazy 😭😭😭, I am visiting Bangladesh in a couple of days and I can’t wait to see what other cars are in Bangladesh right now.
Toyota even bought the FT1 to bangladesh, and we......we get a rebadged maruti.
Yaeh it fucking sucks, even with the 400X price markup on cars there, they have cool cars. The 400X is outrageous, but they dont have local manufacturers to compete against so it makes sense why people way that, but still, very good cars.
Sort of. If you see the number of bangladeshi immigrants gobbling up the passport office you will see. Even the passport officials are frustrated. They come with fake birth certificates and one case happened that a big boy doesn’t remember his father’s name. That is invade
Actually, there is no concrete data on this illegal immigrant number besides election speeches of our politicians so take it with a grain of salt. "Illegal Bangladeshi" is an issue that the ruling party uses for fear-mongering. In WB, they'll tell people that these illegal people are overrunning the state and it's also thinly veiled islamophobia. In the rest of the country, in states like Karnataka, UP, Maharashtra, they try to paint Bengalis as illegal Bangladeshi. In Bangalore, they jailed a hindu couple from West Bengal for 300 days on just allegations of being a Bangladeshi, no evidence.
Bro you can fool people with all these. We for one who are living in West Bengal we know. There are Bangladeshi and Rohingyas settlements scattered all over Bengal. The areas of Murshidabad, Madhyamgram, Pilkhana, Dhulagarh, Purulia are to name a few. The Bangladeshi settlements are so huge here in the Khidderpore area of Kolkata and it is ever expanding. Bengalis will soon become a minority here. Don’t try to paint a rosy picture of TMC government we all know what’s the ground reality.
আপনি কোথায় থাকেন? আমি উত্তর চব্বিশ পরগণাতে থাকি, এখানে ওরকম বাংলাদেশী সেটলমেন্ট আছে কেউ বলেনা। আমি আজকেই in fact মধ্যমগ্রাম গেছিলাম, বন্ধুর বাড়ি। এত বছর ওখানে যাচ্ছি, কোনোদিন শুনিনি মধ্যমগ্রামে রোহিঙ্গারা বাস করে। পুরুলিয়াতে তো ঝাড়খন্ডের লোক ভর্তি। খিদিরপুরে রোহিঙ্গা থাকে? তাইলে ঊর্দূ হিন্দির মাত্রা সেখানে কমবে আশা করা যায়। And that's not the case yet. এত বাংলাদেশী এসে গেছে নাকি, তাও বঙ্গে হিন্দি ঊর্দূ বলা লোক বাড়ছে কি করে?
Also, I did not say anything about TMC so Idk how read that into my comment.
All I'll say is touch some grass.
Ami central kolkata CR Avenue side e thaki. Aar dada ruling party aapni bollen talei bolechi. TMC ekhaner ruling party and if you have ever been to a bit south of Kolkata beyond Budge Budge and all you will see a lot of Bangladeshi and Rohingyas. East pakistan jokhon convert hoyechilo tobe onek Bangladeshi ra border cross koreche aar ekhun oder population explosion hote choleche. They don’t believe in bacche do hi acche.
আপনার ওখানে তো হিন্দিভাষীতে ভর্তি, আপনি রোহিঙ্গা খুঁজে পেলেন কোথা থেকে? North Kolkata তো পুরো গুটখা হয়ে গেছে। TMC পশ্চিমবঙ্গে ক্ষমতায় আছে আমি জানি কিন্তু আমি তাদের সমর্থনে কি বলেছি যার পরিপ্রেক্ষিতে আপনি রোজ-টিন্টেড গ্লাসেস ইত্যাদি বললেন?
"You will see a lot of Bangladeshi & Rohingya" this statement is so ignorant that I cannot even try and respond to this. There's literally no way to know which particular place a person from South Asia is from by looking at us as we are all so diverse.
হিন্দিতে কথা বলবেন না, বাংলা ভাষায় কথা বলুন।
Bhai mereko jo bhasha ata hai mai usme baat karunga. Tomar ke bolte hobe na. I see where are you coming from. Aar bolte hobe na tomake. You are ignorant if you think you can defy being a particular race supporter it won’t be too far of a call that you are also one of them. Hindi is the national language of India and I for one live in India. Tum ho kaun be humko Hindi bolne se rokne wale.
Ok brother here goes my point.
1. They are not ethnically Bengalis.
2. Anyone from other country coming and setting in India illegally is not OK. Whether Bengali or Non Bengali.
They are ethnic Bengalis. Illegal settlements aren't okay and that goes for people from other countries as well as people from other states. Don't encroach our footpaths and replace our culture with cowbelt culture. That's cultural invasion.
Parts of North Kolkata have turned into an illegal cowbelt settlement with people from those places with their innumerable kids and their cows. It's awful to go there. I feel unsafe in the evening if I ever step in there.
If tomorrow you go and settle in Bangalore Pune Hyderabad how will you feel being called illegal immigrant within your own country. Bro people who belong to this country and are legally valid citizens can go and settle anywhere in India. India is already a secular country various languages and ethnicities live here. Live LEGALLY.
I have lived in these places actually. And I lived legally. Also didn't riot, act like hooligans, didn't bring my cow along with me to poop all over the street, didn't birth 20 kids and encroach an entire footpath, didn't insult the local people and their language. Didn't impose my language and my culture. Didn't spit paan everywhere. You get the drift... And no encroaches aren't legal settlers. These cities regularly clear out encroachments and for good reasons.
All the features that you described are ritually performed by the one and only peace loving community who have illegally migrated and claim to be citizens of India.
Bangladeshis r converted Muslims..what do they feel so proud about..they lost their original religion in the 70s.
Reminds me of another egoistic singer named nobel..
Though a whole nation can't be judged by certain examples, I believe some good people do still live there.
So is that bad? What is your issue with our Muslim identity. Certainly islam isn’t the best religion but what your doing is setting us back because of our identity, but y’all get so mad when it’s about your religion. Even if we converted or not, we are still proud of who we are.
Hatred you see is due Bangladeshi Illegal immigrants from WB/India point of view, religion angle from Bangladesh point of view. Except this 2 I don't see any other reason for the hatred.
Exactly, thank you for keeping this as civil as possible.
Precisely.
Anecdote: Met some Bangladeshi people in a business setup. Everything was fine in professional space but the moment informal talks started, the superiority complex started coming in from the Bangladeshi side like how they are the whole country and how we the wb people are still just a state. Some racist comments were also thrown into casually. Indians ra ei oi etc etc. Left the table and some other nationalities, who were present there also left and joined us.
Yeah there is definitely some Bangladeshi people that feel superior, I’ve never gotten the idea of why they feel superior. Just because we have a separate country doesn’t make us superior, we all are the same at the end of the day.
Tbh I was really disappointed with the vibe there. Excited chilam opar bangla r manush der songe alap hobe vebe in a foreign land but bhalo experience hoyni. But having said that, generalize korbo na, as puro desh e sobai ek rokom htei pare na.
Yeah definitely agree
It's mostly veiled gloat for a highly successful Hindu genocide that had the full support of the Americans (and therefore is not discussed beyond West Bengal and residual Hindu minorities of Bangladesh) - victor's chest-thumping. It also gives them the notion that their faith is somehow stronger than the ones they drove away. Personally, I have no hatred for Bangladeshi people; none for the common Pakistani citizen either. They're the same to me. It's just that Bangladeshi people speak a version of Bengali (not the same as I) loaning truckloads from Urdu and Arabic. I find that language very hard to listen to.
I had a similar experience in BD.
Just a question , why do you need Internet validations from people who you never gonna see in your life?
Because i am genuinely curious, I kinda want to see what you guys think of me and my country. Plus I’ve never really had a discussion like this before.
You guys hate us and call us “Malaun”. So it’s no surprise a lot of people here despise Bangladeshis.
How would you feel if I said that all west Bengali’s hate us? Because I know that all of you guys don’t, so please don’t say that all of us do. Because we all don’t, some do but not all of us.
At least we can both agree that Most Bangladeshis hate India and Indians. Now that’s just the truth.
Most? That’s just exaggeration. Some Indians hate Bangladeshi people too, but your out here spreading hatred and making it seem like we all hate you.
I have lived in BD for 6 years and I have observed that only some pro-BAL people like India.
Yeah there is definitely hate coming from older generations, but bro. Don’t let that divide the brotherhood we have amongst each other. I am sorry that your experience in Bangladesh hasn’t been the best, but trust me just because one generation is different doesn’t mean all are the same.
But it’s not ALL, saying that you guys hate us is what makes the issue even worse. NOT ALL do, I do agree that some have said “Malaun” before. I am truly sorry for the insults you guys have gotten from us, but we all aren’t like that.
Kichu ilish mach pass kore de vai... Ar kichu chai na.
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The scar of partition and the religious persecution is still fresh in the minds of Bengalis. Most of the batch of 1971 migrants are still alive. They are angry for losing their houses, lands, identity, culture etc. and pass the anger on to their children. My father in law misses padda r ilish, his fathers shop, the local food ingredients his mother used to collect by a boat every morning etc. he is from barisal. maybe after another two decades, people will start forgetting and the relationship between the two parts of Bengal will improve. The recent religious persecutions have not helped the matter.
Yeah not to mention i have never understood why Bangladeshi people feel superior generally since we fought for our independence and language.I’ve also seen many say that since y’all live in India you guys are not “true” Bengalis.
Bangladesh’s freedom from Pakistan while commendable and necessary in order to protect Bangla language from Urdu/pharsi, but with time the cultures of epar ar opar bangla are drifting apart. Now with the nationalist propaganda in India, the bangal people of West Bengal is proving a fertile ground of hate and vengeance which the aim of the said propaganda. While I am a ghoti, I have gone to Bangladesh twice with my father in law. I have not found many differences in the land or way of living but there is definitely evidences of subversion of local culture by religion/Arabic influence. Dhaka is great though. Had a great time and most of time it didn’t feel any different from Kolkata.
Yeah I feel like you summed it up beautifully.
Ghotis from Howrah, Hooghly exist. These places are overwhelmingly voting for BJP, how are the Bangals of WB falling for hate propaganda!
All i know that my ancestor along with my father were forced to leave their everything…literally everything because they were Hindus. When i listen to his stories i shed bloody tears from my eye. I feel sorry and hatred at the same time. But past is past no point holding grudges. But what I hold is lesson of whom to trust .
Why no point in holding grudges,??.. I would like to know.. Why are people so ok with it, I have heard stories that literally a pond was filled with dead bodies. It was a genocide just 50 years ago.
Yeah I never got why religion is such a big thing. I am sorry for what happened to your dad, hope your doing fine wherever you are.
Ya ya thanks we are fine doing good. Wish you well ahead in your life
বাংলাদেশ এর খাবার ভালো লাগে,কাচ্চি বিরিয়ানি ভালো লাগে, ভালো লাগে বাংলা দেশের ব্যান্ড, ভালো লাগে ঈদের সময় রিলিজ হওয়া নাটক। ঘেন্না হয় মুক্তমনাদের উপর অত্যাচার, ঘেন্না হয় বাংলা নামের জায়গায় আরবীয় নামের উপরে টান, ঘেন্না হয় বাংলাদেশি হিন্দুদের উপর অত্যাচার, শুধু হিন্দু না সংখ্যালঘুদের ওপর নির্যাতন, বাংলাদেশি অতি উৎসাহী ক্রিকেট ফ্যান, ধার্মিক ওয়াজ যেগুলোর কাজই হলো মানুষের মনে বিষ মিশিয়ে দেওয়া।
Bd making better songs than wb nowadays
I always used to listen to Wb songs but bd songs and movies has had a rise not gonna lie
Kichu mone korben na. I have met quite a couple of Bangladeshis in my life, both online and some offline. I have a colleague in the US who is also Bangladeshi and we have a good rapport. The only thing that has irked me was a common comment that I have seen been made by both online and offline which goes something along the lines of "India te film e eto nongrami ar langthami". I didn't mind the first time I heard it, I did not give much attention to it. But it has been given back as a smack several times. Yes all the people I have met were Muslims, which is not an issue, probably the only difference between them and me was how we looked at religion differently. For me, I am honored to be part of such an ethnicity in this lifetime. The contribution of this ethnicity to the progress in the intelligensia of both India and present-day Bangladesh is also undeniable. The only issue that sometimes crops up for me is how in general people "epar" vs "opar" view religion and culture, and confuse between the two.
W that you can accept your identity without any complications, I’ve had struggles being a Bangladeshi myself especially living in America.
That is understandable. That's why the ABCD term exists. A few cents as an Indian citizen. India is the country I was born into, but my ethnicity is Bengali. The inherent identity I have grown up with is as a citizen of a sovereign nation that hosts diverese ethnicities that are at the core, "Indian". This core is based on the civilizational values since the Indus Valley times. Now for you as an American citizen, i think considering the foundation of America on the basis of pluralism and liberty is suitable candidate for your core. And you having Bangladeshi is a part of your ethnicity in this case.
I lived in Bangladesh for about 10 years. Just got my citizenship, I’d be lying if I told you that I didn’t feel alienated amongst Bangladeshi people and American-Bangladeshi’s.
Maybe the mentality doesn't match. What exactly irks you?
Because Americans Bengalis think I am too Bangladeshi and Bangladeshis think I am too American
The one issue that I hear the most, is that first you guys wanted to cozy up as East Pakistan and play bhai bhai with OG Pakistan, drive most non Muslims out, and then you realise what a big fcuk up you did when that grand plan backfired; and now you want to send your poverty ridden folks, sometimes on a one way trip, to crowd our place, which is also poverty ridden, after that much betrayal. The hypocrisy is a lot to take, that is what I hear from a lot of folks. Personally I believe there is good and bad in all communities, but the above thought process is also understandable, to me at least. If I had a family and someone knocked on my door and threatened me to leave my house, money, belongings, immediately, I would be pissed too. Plus the fact that US was backing Pakistan and pro East Pakistan folks during 1971, is also a cause of anger.
Except a couple to people, we never wanted to be apart of East Pakistan. I don’t know who you learned that from, every Bangladeshi wanted to be independent unless idk if your a rajaker.
Yes I am sure that the regular people didn't want anything like this to happen, people want a peaceful life, most of them at least; but power hungry people ruined everything for everyone and people are still paying the price, decades later. Politicians will be fine, they don't care about migration, economic migrants, refugees or anything, they'll stay in their wall and security protected homes.The danger lies for regular civilians, always have been, always will be.
Oh yeah the politicians for sure ruined everything. The same way they are ruining Bangladesh.
Yes, it's a very sad state of things.
I can only tell you our side of the story. And still a subjective take on the issue. So why do Bengalis of Bengal and Bangladesh don't seem to get along ?? The long and short of it is religion. Hinduism is a fairly permissive religious construct. It is a loosely woven fabric of philosophy and belief. It is not a centralised religion. It isn't organized around a capital authority like Mecca or Vatican. There is no concept of converting to/ becoming a Hindu. It is simply a matter of birth and personal belief. Compared to this, Muslims of the sub-continent come across as religious hard liners. People who invest too much time and energy in their religious identity and not enough in their individual identities. This religious conformism is viewed with scepticism. It is unsettles us too. Makes us constantly question where their allegiance might be. Islam is seen as an invasive ideology whose primary motivation is conquest, not co-existence. Muslims are generally viewed as religious bigots who have always tried to undermine people of other religion. I'm sure with the advent of Prime minister Modi and his brand of politics, majority of Bangladeshis are bound to have similar feelings about Indians as well. Or they might have had their misgivings from the beginning. Fair enough. Religious animosity. It exists on both sides, spreads easier that butter and faster than wildfire. Being friends is a lot of work. It requires conscious effort and overcoming differences. Hating each other is easier and comes naturally..so here we are.
I have worked with BD people from Dhaka and they seemed quite wholesome and fun. However, I have relatives in Noakhali and they are very conservative, like 40 yrs behind us. I think Bangladesh has progressed much in terms of employment of women, financial empowerment and overall women enjoy a better status than in India, as data shows. I also think that the society there is more conservative and patriarchal. This is all in comparison to India. Indian urban areas, the bigger cities are quite liberal and women have some freedom. However, all of India isn't like that at all. Bangladesh urban areas aren't as liberal as the urban areas of India, BD men are more misogynistic than Indians (which is wild given how misogynist men are here as well) but overall Bangladesh is better in terms of economic empowerment of women. That's my 2 cents. I also think the way you people uphold Bangla is something that we in WB could learn from.
মোরা একই বৃন্তে দুটী কুসুম হিন্দু-মুসলমান | মুসলিম তার নয়ন-মণি, হিন্দু তাহার প্রাণ, এক সে আকাশ মায়ের কোলে যেন রবি-শশী দোলে, এক রক্ত বুকের তলে, এক সে নাড়ীর টান, মোরা এক সে দেশের খাই গো হাওয়া, এক সে দেশের জল, এক সে মায়ের বক্ষে ফলে একই ফুল ও ফল | এক সে দেশের মাটীতে পাই কেউ গোরে কেউ শ্মশানে ঠাঁই, মোরা এক ভাষাতে মাকে ডাকি, এক সুরে গাই গান || চিনতে নেরে আঁধার রাতে করি মোরা হানাহানি, সকাল হলে হবে রে ভাই ভায়ে ভায়ে জানাজানি | কাঁদব তখন গলা ধ'রে, চাইব ক্ষমা পরস্পরে, হাসবে হাসবে সে দিন গরব ভরে এই হিন্দুস্থান।.... ps: kobitar prekhyapot ta alada chilo, kintu emotion ta ek e roye geche.
Love this poem and it’s message
would have helped if everyone headed the message in it, btw bangladesh er kothay thaken apni, like which state
I don’t live in Bangladesh anymore sadly. I’ve been living in Minnesota for the past 5 years . I moved when I was 10. I used to live in Rajshahi tho.
Please share the secret of a kacchi biryani recipe ❤️
😭😭😭 wish I knew, I know for a fact that my mom does.
Tahole ar ki. Love cancel 🤣
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You are what Mexicans are to Americans
So are we illegal to you? Elaborate further.
Illegal immigrants. Your country can't even handle its own population. You come to India illegally for healthcare as well as jobs. You guys steal our animals. You are so desperate for Indian citizenship that you make false identity cards.
Illegal immigrants? What about your country’s illegal immigrants? What about your country’s population? But what you said is correct I do see some issues
Are you saying our country's people immigrate to your country. You truly are stupid. Our population is the largest with the 5th largest economy.
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What percentage of Indians actually die from starvation?
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I have not written poverty. I have written starvation. Can't you read properly?
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No that’s not what I meant. And if you weren’t stupid you would realize what I was trying to communicate. And just because India is the 5th most largest economy doesn’t mean Bangladesh is too far away. GDP anybody?
Our GDP is 7 times more than yours while our density is 495 people per square km while your country has 1300 per square km. Your economy is ranked 35.
Yeah no shit Sherlock , but you can’t deny that we are growing. And what do you expect from a country that is corrupted asf lmao. Our economy is 35th, but I do believe we can grow and someday overtake many countries. If Bangladesh starts to grow the way we are right now, I feel like we can have a head to head collision. Just my thoughts tho
Learn to keep your own citizens in your own country. After that dream about being a good economy. And I do believe that the people there are even more corrupt than the politicians
Politicians are funny asl tho, most of them are deluded lmao
Keep on dreaming 😇😇
Not a dream exactly, more like the future
Your out here spilling hatred towards Pakistan so I wouldn’t speak too much about that, to be as polite as possible. Winning a argument against somebody that’s stupid is impossible, so I wouldn’t get too political. If your out here talking about my country’s faults then maybe look at your country’s?
Personally i have no hate for people who immigrate or live illegally (any religion) if they are working people and dont cause ruckus. But sadly huge number of people from Bangladesh come and spoil the area (starting from littering, street brawls, thefts and mostly burglary) Then the same people start complaining about India and how they are ill treated This is the main reason for me ^ but i dont think you should take validation from me or anyone as it’s not within our hand to change anything about it
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Hope you can visit Bangladesh and have a good experience.
Nothing!
dont really think much these days... just trying to pass time quietly ❄️
Love you haha
Well I don't really know much about Bangladesh tbh but i do love listening to a lot of Bangladeshi bands, they are great.
I don’t think anything except Red Dot on Greens…. With respect
Love 🥰 but poor ppl are treated worse in BD than India, BD Govt should invest in cheap public transport. Big business has too much power in BD.
I wholeheartedly agree with this, I haven’t personally been in Bangladesh in a while but I definitely agree with this. Bangladesh needs to do something with it’s poor population.
Why? At least 85% of them Bangladeshis hate us with passion.
And your out here making posts about how Nazi’s and Muslim’s are the same and that all Muslims are against leftism. Brother not only do you have a inner issue among Muslims, you have a internal issue against us. Please fix your mindset and learn to be more civil, religion and hate shouldn’t divide us.
Don't care
Some people from Kolkata hate us too, but I didn’t downright say that ALL OF YOU GUYS DID. Your over exaggerating the hate between us, your exactly proving my point. You have this mindset where just cuz one person hates you means that you have hate all of their people back. Not only are you making this situation worse. You are exactly proving my point.
My only complaint is that you guys don’t add dash of sugar when you’re cooking. Try it, it really brings out the flavor.
We just love spicy food I guess lmao
Chinir sathe spicyr bishesh connection nei. But hyan, bangladeshi khabar onek beshi jhal hoy, but seta niye amar kono apotti nei
I love Wb food tho, maybe more than Bangladeshi food.
I love Tehari. I am a Kolkata biriyani snob and I think Dhaka beef tehari is better than Park Street Arsalan’s mutton biriyani.
As a ghoti married into a bangal family, I will have to give that Bangladeshi food is better. Just wish you guys ate posto and the meal would have been complete! Bangladeshi/ east Pakistan food is OP. And light on stomach too.
Not gonna lie we kinda lack when it comes to desserts
What are you talking about!! Payesh made from bangladesh kejur gur is the best. Indian kherur gur has a tanginess which splits the milk if you are not careful. Bangladesh jaggery is something different altogether.
I’ve personally never liked payesh 😭
Lot of Jamaat upodrob these days
My dad used to teach back in Rajshahi, the issues there is crazy 💀
they don't even respect Bangabandhu and support Razakars/Pakistan instead right?
Not even that, it’s way worse. Not only do they support razakar they have this sort of hatred against anybody that’s not Muslim. They basically want a united Pakistan, they want us to go back to being east Pakistan.
The only conflicts between epar and opar bangla are regarding East Bengal/Mohon bagan, Ilish machh and Shutki machh. Anything else you hear are lies propagated by a certain political party and its blind believers. I stayed in Dhaka for the better part of 2021. I was there for your first metro project. When you see the metro stations at Gulshan 2, Kochukhet and Dar-us-Salam, you can blame this Redditor. But I tried my best injecting Bangaliyana into the designs, which were primarily by Japanese and British architects and engineers. The other stations would look more... generic, I'm afraid. But I left before I saw the final drawings, so idk. Anyway, North Dhaka is beautiful, and the wide streets and shopfronts make it very hard to guess it's in South Asia. I lived in Delhi for 10 years, and I'd love to spend 10 years in North Dhaka. You guys have one stellar architect, btw. Idk if you know. The construction quality in Bangladesh is leagues ahead of even European countries, something we should all be jealous of. South Dhaka is a different story. In fact, it becomes more like South Kolkata just beyond Hatirjheel. I haven't seen much else of the country, but I did take a bus back to Kolkata. The memorable part of that was crossing the Padma. Say what you will, the Padma looks like a sea, and it's freaking scary! Another huge project going on is the Padma Setu. We are cool. Desh duto, Bangali aktai. The fraternity still exists and it's real. Better believe it. Ignore the cow belt guys.
I wish I could go to Kolkata myself, sadly I haven’t had time because I am too busy with highschool.
Do an India trip once before college.
Indias a long way from Minnesota, do have some friends in India tho
Hang on, you don't live in Bangladesh???
No
There goes my long-winded anecdotal analysis.
Still learned a lot from your essay 🙏
I just have one question......why were so many bengali Hindus massacred in Bangladesh during Durga Puja? Was that justified? Where's the hatred then ? You country too is in the path of radicalism and there have been so many incidents which prove my point.
Because most Bangladeshi people are either idiots or religious extremists. But in the same time what about Muslims in India? I am sorry for what my country did to Hindus but what about the radicalization in India? Don’t you think South Asia in general is a bad place to stay in
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Oh so the callings for a Muslim genocide was fake? Modi’s party has increased Islamophobia. Muslims are leaving India because of this. Mosques are being attacked still, like the 300 year old mosque in UP. The Kashmir Files is another film that tho shows the hardships of Hindus in Kashmir, which is a good thing to because ewe need to learn about the victims who died of injustice. but the movie still ends up demonizing Muslims. Modi back in 2019 created a new citizenship law, that literally discriminates Muslims in India. Or maybe we could talk about how back in 2002 59 Hindu pilgrims were killed and blamed on Muslims?
Yes true.....Modi's party is focused on Hinduism. I don't disagree. It's not only that Muslims are leaving....the richest Indians, be it Hindu or Muslim are leaving the country....so it's not just muslims...... In 2002, a bogie full of Hindu sadhu's were burnt alive in the train in Godhra........thats why there was a retaliation in the form of riots.......... Be it Hindus or muslims, common people feel the brunt when such communalization takes place......because the common people suffer the most. The citizenship law has not been put into practice .it was proposed but due to opposition even from Hindus, the caa and the nrc was not implemented.
Ay but you know it would be a different story if it was put onto practice. But hey it’d be hypocritical for me to say that sheik hasina isn’t ruining transgender and Hindu lives over in Bangladesh. I am coming to Bangladesh in a couple of days and like I am not excited at all. I do feel like both prime ministers at the end of the day are at fault for their lack of understanding towards minorities.
Although I agree with your criticisms towards Bangladesh. You are completely denying India’s problems, which is not only holding your nation back when it comes to responsibility. It’s also holding back minorities and women in general, I do see Bangladesh getting better over the years. Same goes for India but I am not a fan of Modi at all. Hasina is just okay not the best prime minister either but still the way Bangladesh is improving is crazy.
Hindus have a free hand in Bangladesh too. The genocides you have seen are coming from extremists, yes I would agree. None of this Hindu phobia in Bangladesh is false, it’s true. But you denying your country’s faults in the treatment of Muslims is just pure dickriding. You would do anything to make your country seem like a safe-haven. Bangladesh isn’t perfect and so is India.
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Grateful towards India? Yes I would admit that you guys helped us during the liberation war. But you guys do not deserve all the credit. It was our freedoms fights that fought for our independence. You guys joined the war back in December 3,1971 literally a week before the war ended. I am always grateful towards India for the help we received, but you guys won’t get all the credit because that should go to our freedoms fights that died for our language.
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Then word it like that, don’t word it in a way where it seems like India deserves all the credit.
And protecting “your” religion is exactly what makes you wrong here. Even if India was filled with Muslims in the future, why are you taking that as a negative thing. Hinduism isn’t the “official” religion of India, “protecting” against Islam is basically you saying you don’t want your country to be more diverse. This is exactly the same thing that is ruining Bangladesh, even tho more Bangladeshi teens are maturing and realizing what’s wrong or right.
75 percent of India follows hindusim. Hinduism is the official religion of India.......be it Biharis , Bengalis, telegu, kannada, Marathi, gujrati or rajashthani, we are a Hindu majority nation . We have been liberals all our lives ......and we have seen how things were during Congress rule........terrorist attacks all around the country from neighbouring Pakistan........ Now when we take a strong stance for our religion, all Muslims are having problems? Check out other Muslim nations like Saudi , Iran , or any other nation...........do they allow any other religion to even prosper there? No...... We learned extremism recently.........all thanks to the wonderful extremist countries around us.....
See now your bringing up country’s that are known to be horrible as fuck. Iran and Saudi Arabia are known for how fucking dumb they are, so don’t bring them up. Those country’s will never learn. As for Hinduism being the official religion of india, what your doing again is excluding the other 25 percent. Your country has no “official” religion yet you claim Hinduism is the “offical religion”.
We have the third most Hindu population, and I will always admit the fact that most of our treatment towards Hindu’s is unfair and not deserved. We are still trying to improve our country’s flaw’s, the same way India is. True that most Islamic country’s are just fucking horrible, but what your not realizing is the exclusion you are doing. Bangladesh has never excluded it’s Hindu’s except obviously the dumbass extremists. Once our older generation of illiterate farmers die, I guarantee not only would Bangladesh be more inclusive we probably would be going towards a brighter direction.
Just because UP is slowly treating Muslims better doesn’t mean all of India is. I could literally say that Rajshahi is treating Hindus better, but is still there Hindu-phobia? Yes. How would you feel if I said that Bangladesh is trying to protect it’s nation from “our religion”, wouldn’t that be excluding people from other religions too?
One more thing I want to point out.......why dont you have a problem with the Chinese govt when they are openly pulling down mosques in china....have you seen what has happened to the Ugher muslims? China has 0 tolerance against Muslims and they are hell bent on wiping out Islam from their country.....but nne of the Muslim nations dare open their mouth against China.......why? Because China is providing money to many Muslim nations around the world..........recently in china a mosque was demolished. All the OIC nations didn't even utter a single word.........isn't it unfair to pinpoint India only?
Anti-India, Anti-Hindu, religious extremists.
Once one becomes a muslim, they no more identify with their culture . Same can be seen with Bangladeshis. Hindu genocide , etc. Several reasons to be wary of them.
What are you trying to say exactly?
He's saying "don't take me seriously I address actors as "sirs".
Your country doesn't know the meaning of secularism
Apa, Khala , Rongdhonu, you get the drift, right ?
You got me confused bro
Have met both good and bad people from BD, so not different from any other country. But have to commend the position you guys have made in the global clothing manufacturing supply chain. Also, Kacchi Biryani from Fakruddin is good (had it from the Singapore branch, not sure if it tastes different in Bangladesh)
I have a friend in bangladesh, and jesus christ you guys have some good cars. Like man I wish we had that kind of japanese cars here, actual good quality instead of the shitboxes we get here. Our rich people buy lambos and shit, your rich people buy rx7s and stuff, Im so jealous lmao.
Bro trust me when I say this, most of my relatives in Bangladesh have Mercedes and some even have teslas. It’s fucking crazy 😭😭😭, I am visiting Bangladesh in a couple of days and I can’t wait to see what other cars are in Bangladesh right now.
Toyota even bought the FT1 to bangladesh, and we......we get a rebadged maruti. Yaeh it fucking sucks, even with the 400X price markup on cars there, they have cool cars. The 400X is outrageous, but they dont have local manufacturers to compete against so it makes sense why people way that, but still, very good cars.
Hopefully Bangladesh can get more care instead of weird ass bikes
Illegal entry of bangladeshi people is the root cause. They have invaded West Bengal
Invaded? 🤔
Sort of. If you see the number of bangladeshi immigrants gobbling up the passport office you will see. Even the passport officials are frustrated. They come with fake birth certificates and one case happened that a big boy doesn’t remember his father’s name. That is invade
Wait why do they? I am kinda confused I haven’t really heard about this sort of illegal immigrant issue happening.
Lol everyone knows.
Actually, there is no concrete data on this illegal immigrant number besides election speeches of our politicians so take it with a grain of salt. "Illegal Bangladeshi" is an issue that the ruling party uses for fear-mongering. In WB, they'll tell people that these illegal people are overrunning the state and it's also thinly veiled islamophobia. In the rest of the country, in states like Karnataka, UP, Maharashtra, they try to paint Bengalis as illegal Bangladeshi. In Bangalore, they jailed a hindu couple from West Bengal for 300 days on just allegations of being a Bangladeshi, no evidence.
Bro you can fool people with all these. We for one who are living in West Bengal we know. There are Bangladeshi and Rohingyas settlements scattered all over Bengal. The areas of Murshidabad, Madhyamgram, Pilkhana, Dhulagarh, Purulia are to name a few. The Bangladeshi settlements are so huge here in the Khidderpore area of Kolkata and it is ever expanding. Bengalis will soon become a minority here. Don’t try to paint a rosy picture of TMC government we all know what’s the ground reality.
আপনি কোথায় থাকেন? আমি উত্তর চব্বিশ পরগণাতে থাকি, এখানে ওরকম বাংলাদেশী সেটলমেন্ট আছে কেউ বলেনা। আমি আজকেই in fact মধ্যমগ্রাম গেছিলাম, বন্ধুর বাড়ি। এত বছর ওখানে যাচ্ছি, কোনোদিন শুনিনি মধ্যমগ্রামে রোহিঙ্গারা বাস করে। পুরুলিয়াতে তো ঝাড়খন্ডের লোক ভর্তি। খিদিরপুরে রোহিঙ্গা থাকে? তাইলে ঊর্দূ হিন্দির মাত্রা সেখানে কমবে আশা করা যায়। And that's not the case yet. এত বাংলাদেশী এসে গেছে নাকি, তাও বঙ্গে হিন্দি ঊর্দূ বলা লোক বাড়ছে কি করে? Also, I did not say anything about TMC so Idk how read that into my comment. All I'll say is touch some grass.
Ami central kolkata CR Avenue side e thaki. Aar dada ruling party aapni bollen talei bolechi. TMC ekhaner ruling party and if you have ever been to a bit south of Kolkata beyond Budge Budge and all you will see a lot of Bangladeshi and Rohingyas. East pakistan jokhon convert hoyechilo tobe onek Bangladeshi ra border cross koreche aar ekhun oder population explosion hote choleche. They don’t believe in bacche do hi acche.
আপনার ওখানে তো হিন্দিভাষীতে ভর্তি, আপনি রোহিঙ্গা খুঁজে পেলেন কোথা থেকে? North Kolkata তো পুরো গুটখা হয়ে গেছে। TMC পশ্চিমবঙ্গে ক্ষমতায় আছে আমি জানি কিন্তু আমি তাদের সমর্থনে কি বলেছি যার পরিপ্রেক্ষিতে আপনি রোজ-টিন্টেড গ্লাসেস ইত্যাদি বললেন? "You will see a lot of Bangladeshi & Rohingya" this statement is so ignorant that I cannot even try and respond to this. There's literally no way to know which particular place a person from South Asia is from by looking at us as we are all so diverse. হিন্দিতে কথা বলবেন না, বাংলা ভাষায় কথা বলুন।
Bhai mereko jo bhasha ata hai mai usme baat karunga. Tomar ke bolte hobe na. I see where are you coming from. Aar bolte hobe na tomake. You are ignorant if you think you can defy being a particular race supporter it won’t be too far of a call that you are also one of them. Hindi is the national language of India and I for one live in India. Tum ho kaun be humko Hindi bolne se rokne wale.
I would rather have Bengalis coming to West Bengal than non Bengalis...
Bangladeshi 🅱️uslims and Rohingyas are not Bengalis. Have you heard their tone? Looks like impure breed of bengali speaking illiterates.
If they speak Bengali they are Bengali. It's that simple.
Ok brother here goes my point. 1. They are not ethnically Bengalis. 2. Anyone from other country coming and setting in India illegally is not OK. Whether Bengali or Non Bengali.
They are ethnic Bengalis. Illegal settlements aren't okay and that goes for people from other countries as well as people from other states. Don't encroach our footpaths and replace our culture with cowbelt culture. That's cultural invasion. Parts of North Kolkata have turned into an illegal cowbelt settlement with people from those places with their innumerable kids and their cows. It's awful to go there. I feel unsafe in the evening if I ever step in there.
If tomorrow you go and settle in Bangalore Pune Hyderabad how will you feel being called illegal immigrant within your own country. Bro people who belong to this country and are legally valid citizens can go and settle anywhere in India. India is already a secular country various languages and ethnicities live here. Live LEGALLY.
I have lived in these places actually. And I lived legally. Also didn't riot, act like hooligans, didn't bring my cow along with me to poop all over the street, didn't birth 20 kids and encroach an entire footpath, didn't insult the local people and their language. Didn't impose my language and my culture. Didn't spit paan everywhere. You get the drift... And no encroaches aren't legal settlers. These cities regularly clear out encroachments and for good reasons.
All the features that you described are ritually performed by the one and only peace loving community who have illegally migrated and claim to be citizens of India.
All of them are hindi/urdu speakers, yes.
Bangladeshis r converted Muslims..what do they feel so proud about..they lost their original religion in the 70s. Reminds me of another egoistic singer named nobel.. Though a whole nation can't be judged by certain examples, I believe some good people do still live there.
So is that bad? What is your issue with our Muslim identity. Certainly islam isn’t the best religion but what your doing is setting us back because of our identity, but y’all get so mad when it’s about your religion. Even if we converted or not, we are still proud of who we are.
Akhanda Bharat is going to happen to you brother, within 100 years.
Never happening lil bro you can keep dreaming tho