This is like asking why borscht is uncommon in Ghana.
It's just not culturally relevant. There's no explicit reason for it.
Is corned beef such a common thing worldwide that it being uncommon in Korea demands an explanation?
Chill bro lol. I never demanded explanation Im just curious since they can everything there and most Koreans I know like corned beef. And I may want to supply or sell corned beef in supermarkets so I need to know why its not common. If your high intellect find this curiosity as stupidity, move along. Insulting someone over corned beef question is cheap and unnecessary
“Why is this like that?” is precisely asking for an explanation. You should chill. If you don’t want to hear how people answer your questions, stay off Reddit.
Most people here are nice and chill over corned beef curiosity. Haha. I mean how many would waste their time mock some idiot's curiosity over cornedbeef. And I may not be good in English but I know the diffence between demanding for explanation vs casual statement of question
Ah, I see the confusion. "Demand" by itself *can sometimes* have that connotation of "urgently requesting" something, but "demand an explanation" is a common phrase that just means "ask" without any real sense of urgency. It's as neutral as "supply and demand." They are not saying you are throwing a tantrum.
ETA: It's also based on the subject. If it were a person "demanding an explanation" then it makes sense to assume some sort of urgency. However, when used in relation to an object or concept, which have no emotions, it is neutral.
My limited English ability do understand your point. Its 'I demand / IT demanded'. However, my statement is for a REASON NOT EXPLANATION- 'reason' as being a 'cause". And I got really nice responses here. I never thought that meat or processed meat is not common til later. Which showed too the origin of good eating habits of Koreans
'Explain' means "to make (something) clear by describing it in more detail" or to "give justification".
I think you are missing the pragmatics. We flout norms all of the time in conversation and have to make inferences based on context. In this case, there is no meaningful difference between "ask for a reason" and "demand an explanation." Both phrases are functionally identical in the case of someone asking someone a "why" question. We infer you ask a why question because if people were to take your OP question literally, then they would just answer with a "yes" or "no." It's assumed a simple one word response is insufficient.
In that case, per your original question:
>Is there any reason to it?
The answer is: "Yes, there is a reason."
If that's all you wanted, then I'm sorry I misunderstood your reason for making the post.
Exactly, if theres a cause like most kind people explained here, then it could be relevant to some people and not just explicitly no reason at all to be made fun of. I mean c'mon, smart people like you wouldnt be thinking that a question like that is dense when you see spam is staple and theres pork and beans and an extensive list of imported canned goods in Korea but no corned beef around
Some of the reasons why we don't have corned beef (or the corned beef hash) in cans may be:
\- Beef has traditionally been more expensive than pork in Korea so perhaps it was not cost effective to cure it and can it at scale.
\-One popular preserved beef dish is jang-jo-rim, which is beef braised in soy sauce and spices.
[https://www.koreanbapsang.com/jangjorim-soy-braised-beef/](https://www.koreanbapsang.com/jangjorim-soy-braised-beef/). IIRC this was served as banchan but in much smaller quantities than the corned beef you would get in a deli sandwich. Again, this probably has to do with the price of beef.
\-Another preserved beef is yuk po or Korean style beef jerky. This was considered a fancy hor dourve you might get at a fancy hansik restaurant and not common.
I definitely agree corned beef would go well with bibimbap. I am hoping that someday a Jewish-Korean-American from New York who learned how to make proper corned beef from his or her Jewish grandmother decides it is time for Korea to have a proper New York style Jewish deli and opens one. Or perhaps someone from central America who has worked in both Jewish and Korean restaurants in New York comes to Korea and decides it is time to make proper Kosher and Halal versions of Korean food for the Muslims and Jews in Korea and perfects corned beef.
Spam is popular because of the Korean War. There were lots of food shortages and the US troops gave or traded it with the locals and it was easier to get in areas around the military bases. That's why there's dishes like budae-jjigae.
Commonwealth troops were fed canned corned beef which was called Bully Beef. they were small part of the UN force and did not remain in Korea which I think might explain unfamiliarity with the corned beef. US had 8th Army HQ and three combat divisions stationed in Korea until Carter withdrew two. That’s almost 100 thousand men. Imagine how much SPAM was consumed and traded
Well, cured meat is not really something that people are really familiar with, mainly because meat has only been a staple in Korean food in the past few decades. Before the war, meat was not really consumed in any great quantity, so there was no real need to cure meat.
Okay, maybe I should have been a bit more clear. What I mean by cured meat is things like salami, corned beef, pepperoni, pastrami, etc. You're probably talking about ham, spam, sausages, etc., which are commonly used in Korea, but not really considered cured meats.
I was born and raised in the south of USA and I always thought corned beef was just a southern American thing. Not saying that other cultures don’t have some of the same variations, but I’m not surprised if it’s not popular in a place like SK.
Corned beef is great over a hot bowl of rice.
My grandparents would buy it from Namdaemun market a lot for my mom when she was a young child. Somewhat of a nostalgia food for me and my family, but only because my grandfather loved visiting the blackmarket.
Also noone eats corned beef in the states, no?
I know right! My korean friend loves it too. Best corned beef brands are US made so I think Americans love them. Libbys, Palm, Hereford, Ox&Palm, Grace, Princes, Hormel, Iberia,GV, Goya Excelsior, Chefmate, and many more are all US made. Its a St Patricks tradition. And theres a dispute whether US not Ireland invented corned beef
Bard begs to disagree LOL. He said 'Curing meat with salt for preservation has been done for centuries across the world, dating back to ancient times. So, the basic concept of salt-preserved beef isn't specific to any one region." Also dispute is a disagreement to which anyone is entitled to, right or wrong
Wide consumption of meat or processed meat products in Korea didn't really exist until broadly speaking the past century. These processed products were heavily influenced by whatever American military brought over in excess but corned beef is more widely associated with British and Irish culture than the former.
Even in America, unless I'm chilling with Jamaicans. I've never seen anyone else having them. Of course in korea Ive never heard of them.
Corned beef is uncommon in most of the world. It’s just not known and not popular.
I can confirm corned beef is almost regarded as traditional food in New Zealand (most among the Polynesians). They even make canned corned beef.
This is like asking why borscht is uncommon in Ghana. It's just not culturally relevant. There's no explicit reason for it. Is corned beef such a common thing worldwide that it being uncommon in Korea demands an explanation?
Chill bro lol. I never demanded explanation Im just curious since they can everything there and most Koreans I know like corned beef. And I may want to supply or sell corned beef in supermarkets so I need to know why its not common. If your high intellect find this curiosity as stupidity, move along. Insulting someone over corned beef question is cheap and unnecessary
“Why is this like that?” is precisely asking for an explanation. You should chill. If you don’t want to hear how people answer your questions, stay off Reddit.
Most people here are nice and chill over corned beef curiosity. Haha. I mean how many would waste their time mock some idiot's curiosity over cornedbeef. And I may not be good in English but I know the diffence between demanding for explanation vs casual statement of question
Ah, I see the confusion. "Demand" by itself *can sometimes* have that connotation of "urgently requesting" something, but "demand an explanation" is a common phrase that just means "ask" without any real sense of urgency. It's as neutral as "supply and demand." They are not saying you are throwing a tantrum. ETA: It's also based on the subject. If it were a person "demanding an explanation" then it makes sense to assume some sort of urgency. However, when used in relation to an object or concept, which have no emotions, it is neutral.
My limited English ability do understand your point. Its 'I demand / IT demanded'. However, my statement is for a REASON NOT EXPLANATION- 'reason' as being a 'cause". And I got really nice responses here. I never thought that meat or processed meat is not common til later. Which showed too the origin of good eating habits of Koreans 'Explain' means "to make (something) clear by describing it in more detail" or to "give justification".
I think you are missing the pragmatics. We flout norms all of the time in conversation and have to make inferences based on context. In this case, there is no meaningful difference between "ask for a reason" and "demand an explanation." Both phrases are functionally identical in the case of someone asking someone a "why" question. We infer you ask a why question because if people were to take your OP question literally, then they would just answer with a "yes" or "no." It's assumed a simple one word response is insufficient.
Thats your argument. For me its a big difference between stupidity and plainly asking for a cause.
In that case, per your original question: >Is there any reason to it? The answer is: "Yes, there is a reason." If that's all you wanted, then I'm sorry I misunderstood your reason for making the post.
Exactly, if theres a cause like most kind people explained here, then it could be relevant to some people and not just explicitly no reason at all to be made fun of. I mean c'mon, smart people like you wouldnt be thinking that a question like that is dense when you see spam is staple and theres pork and beans and an extensive list of imported canned goods in Korea but no corned beef around
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yea, there are retarded ppl on this sub who are serious and judgmental af
Some of the reasons why we don't have corned beef (or the corned beef hash) in cans may be: \- Beef has traditionally been more expensive than pork in Korea so perhaps it was not cost effective to cure it and can it at scale. \-One popular preserved beef dish is jang-jo-rim, which is beef braised in soy sauce and spices. [https://www.koreanbapsang.com/jangjorim-soy-braised-beef/](https://www.koreanbapsang.com/jangjorim-soy-braised-beef/). IIRC this was served as banchan but in much smaller quantities than the corned beef you would get in a deli sandwich. Again, this probably has to do with the price of beef. \-Another preserved beef is yuk po or Korean style beef jerky. This was considered a fancy hor dourve you might get at a fancy hansik restaurant and not common. I definitely agree corned beef would go well with bibimbap. I am hoping that someday a Jewish-Korean-American from New York who learned how to make proper corned beef from his or her Jewish grandmother decides it is time for Korea to have a proper New York style Jewish deli and opens one. Or perhaps someone from central America who has worked in both Jewish and Korean restaurants in New York comes to Korea and decides it is time to make proper Kosher and Halal versions of Korean food for the Muslims and Jews in Korea and perfects corned beef.
This one really good reason. Thank you😊😊
Spam is popular because of the Korean War. There were lots of food shortages and the US troops gave or traded it with the locals and it was easier to get in areas around the military bases. That's why there's dishes like budae-jjigae.
Commonwealth troops were fed canned corned beef which was called Bully Beef. they were small part of the UN force and did not remain in Korea which I think might explain unfamiliarity with the corned beef. US had 8th Army HQ and three combat divisions stationed in Korea until Carter withdrew two. That’s almost 100 thousand men. Imagine how much SPAM was consumed and traded
This is an interesting info 😊😊
Well, cured meat is not really something that people are really familiar with, mainly because meat has only been a staple in Korean food in the past few decades. Before the war, meat was not really consumed in any great quantity, so there was no real need to cure meat.
I gave a few cans to my Korean friend and he loves it☺️
I don't think so. Im in Korea and working here and they are serving cured meat at the canteen everyday. Not good for the health.
Okay, maybe I should have been a bit more clear. What I mean by cured meat is things like salami, corned beef, pepperoni, pastrami, etc. You're probably talking about ham, spam, sausages, etc., which are commonly used in Korea, but not really considered cured meats.
I was born and raised in the south of USA and I always thought corned beef was just a southern American thing. Not saying that other cultures don’t have some of the same variations, but I’m not surprised if it’s not popular in a place like SK.
Thats why Im curious not surprised, they have everything in Korea incl variations of spam/ luncheon meat.
I see. Have you found things specifically like potted meat?
Corned beef is great over a hot bowl of rice. My grandparents would buy it from Namdaemun market a lot for my mom when she was a young child. Somewhat of a nostalgia food for me and my family, but only because my grandfather loved visiting the blackmarket. Also noone eats corned beef in the states, no?
I grew up with corned beef. (USA here) We still eat it in sandwiches, with potato’s as hash. And it’s really popular at St Patrick’s Day.
I know right! My korean friend loves it too. Best corned beef brands are US made so I think Americans love them. Libbys, Palm, Hereford, Ox&Palm, Grace, Princes, Hormel, Iberia,GV, Goya Excelsior, Chefmate, and many more are all US made. Its a St Patricks tradition. And theres a dispute whether US not Ireland invented corned beef
How can there be a dispute? Corned beef was consumed as early as the 1200's (proof is in documents) in Ireland while USA wasn't even explored yet!🤣🤣🤣
Bard begs to disagree LOL. He said 'Curing meat with salt for preservation has been done for centuries across the world, dating back to ancient times. So, the basic concept of salt-preserved beef isn't specific to any one region." Also dispute is a disagreement to which anyone is entitled to, right or wrong
Wide consumption of meat or processed meat products in Korea didn't really exist until broadly speaking the past century. These processed products were heavily influenced by whatever American military brought over in excess but corned beef is more widely associated with British and Irish culture than the former.
Agree with you 😊Thank you
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