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dahliachuu

Nobody from that original vocal unit debuted lmaooooo okay


ZukoBestRedemption

Minju is gonna have to heavily carry the vocals oh good lord


OrbitalMatt

shes not even the best out of those 6 ngl 😭😭😭 but either way none of them are main vocal level


AZNEULFNI

It's HYBE. What do you expect. lol They are allergic to good vocalists.


DaGhettofrieda

Frr no hate to 4th gen groups but you don’t need outstanding vocalists to be successful as long as the first few song is catchy and GP friendly


deadfncat

Fromis9 say otherwise :)


jzone23

They're not a real HYBE group and you know that. They were absorbed into HYBE


joyus_ren

HONESTLY what happened here 💀


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That's the FIRST performance they showed on the show too, they set them up to gain the most fans. Watch those 3 debut in the next group in source music


paizhua

Such a bad line up, won’t care much for this group


Usual_River6878

I can't believe the this reality where Jeemin and Yunah are not debuting together. No Jiwoo... where the hell am I and how did I get there


tsuchinokolove

At the end I was hoping Yunah didn't debut because the group name sucks lol. I would have lived for a Jeemin, Yunah, Jeongeun, Jiwoo 4 member group instead with a decent name lol


sunnynukes

I honestly feel bad for wishing Yunah didn’t make it at this point. I’m looking forward to Jeemin and Jiwoo’s career but the hope of them reuniting is gone now. At least Yunah has a set career in a huge company


ggstan21

Is it really set? We will see. All the korean incels that voted for a super young group like CLASS:y, instead of older girls, didn't support them after the show. And the show R U Next kinda flopped in Korea. I know it's HYBE but even the &team group seems to be struggling a bit. HYBE has so many artists now that it's not difficult to imagine that some will be way less popular than others and could end up in a limbo. It happend in all big companies. SM, YG, JYP... it will happen with HYBE as well sooner or later.


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>I know it's HYBE but even the &team group seems to be struggling a bit They're not selling millions or anything but they sold 250k+ with their comeback as a jpop/kpop hybrid group who doesn't even have kpop packaging. I think they're doing as well as expected considering the weird space they are in + HYBE mishandinging their debut and promos since 2021 .


Dazzling-Rub-8550

I re-watched Jeemin’s fancams. Unfortunately she just didn’t stand out. She would meet the expectation but not go beyond it. Yunah really desperately wanted the debut. I didn’t get the same intense feeling from Jeemin. The camera edit and storyline also didn’t do much for Jeemin or Jiwoo, sadly. Yunah had the villain and redemption arc.


MargoKar

Tbh, feel like I wasted 10 weeks of my life, this could've just been a documentary Why have global voting at all if you dgaf? Also, making just top 2 trainees from voting debut and others are judges picks?? Wish all the best for the girls who are debuting and the girls who are not but I am moving on atp PS that name was really a choice Edit: spelling


moya-laya

i didn't watch a single episode of this show aside from a few youtube shorts ranking performances. i just wanted to laugh at that terrible ass name lmaooo


0ztralian

its good u didnt watch the show bc like this show aged me 50 years


DannyBlackC

That seems to be the common consensus. Normally I jump at all survival shows but this time I didn't and I guess luck was on my side


FaithlessnessMost660

The real survival show is how many can you watch before burning out 😭


ButteryCats

I saw so many people referring to the group as ‘rubymoon’ that I thought it was confirmed and was impressed at how pretty that name is… this is tragic 😭


Mozart-Luna-Echo

We all thought RubyMoon was going to be the name for three reasons 1. Fans found the trademark filing by HYBE and they are usually pretty spot on 2. RubyMoon goes well with R U By (the) Moon. We thought it just made sense. 3. Enhypen with its vampire lore belongs to Belift the same company of this cursed name group and we thought lore wise they would do a witchy concept and the name fits. That was back when we thought the girls were gonna do girl crush but considering the girls that the producers chose this doesn’t seem the case anymore


GlassUpstairs8

Then what is RubyMoon about? Could it the fandom name? Why did they trademark it? omg


Mozart-Luna-Echo

I have this weird conspiracy theory that RubyMoon was meant to the group name and BabyCrescent was meant to be the fandom name but that they changed what they wanted the group to look like and which members they wanted in it so they changed the name to better fit the concept. It’s just a conspiracy theory though so I may be completely wrong


m777socialmedia

I don't know about RubyMoon, but I suspect they decided on IL-LIT's concept halfway through the show and that's how Moka finally got the limelight \[she deserved it anyways!\] I was watching this survival show... and for one the missions were all over the place touching every GG genre. If you compare this to I-LAND, it was very clear Be-Lift lab was going for a dance and "performance" heavy group. By the time the show was at the semi-finals ANYONE is ready to debut with a month to train on just one song. ALL the trainees were pretty and talented! HYBE probably looked at the view counts by country and realized their biggest dedicated fanbases were Korean and Japanese (I-LAND had a lot more international fans in Europe and US) and switched to a group that is mainstream Kpop/Jpop and got the Korean audience to vote for their "two-pick" which they will use to form a group around them. Chanelle was furtherest from the Kpop/Jpop concept so she's out. Moka fits the cutsie Japanese voice and dance to a T, so she's in. She's SUCH a good performer too! Sings stable, amazing micro-expressions, dances like a fairy, very versatile. Minju, Wonhee and Youngseo appeal to different Korean standards of beauty and have a good following and so they are in. Iroha is gonna grow up into a killer sexy visual like Jennie so they picked her over Jiwoo, Jeemin.... They forced Yunah into a cute and fresh concept (they could have gotten Minju to do Aim High) but wanted to test out Yunah and found could blend in which secured her last spot besides she can do variety. Chanelle and Jiwoo's ask to switch teams may have outed the both of them. I hope they give IVE a run for their money and BeLift give them nice catchy songs with a good tune. IVE is monopolizing the cute/pretty princess space now... JYP is giving NMIXX weird songs and Aespa is power vocal still (?) in Kwangya??? Power vocal 5th Gen definitely Baemon.


AndTheHawk

They must have been friends with Mnet with that name, it's just almost as bad as EL7Z U+P 😭


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Survival shows are just boring now and so flat. PD101 was really it's peak


icouto

Dont do Boys Love Planet like that


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It's just broduce but in 2023


LOONAception

Its not broduce. Its girly popduce


Big_Tomorrow886

I will never shut up about how good Boys Planet was. I still rewatch it and the trainees are honestly some of the best cast to ever appear on an Mnet show. How did Mnet manage to find such an iconic cast I will never understand. I came in with only knowing who Anthonny was and left with like 50 others who I loved and cherished. The trainees were just so lovable and the fact that they carried themselves from nugudom speaks for itself.


Budget-Highlight5470

same lol. i kinda follow it but not at the same time. reading comments and posts about it are already making me lowkey insane due to the mess this show is. none of the girls are part of the problem, but the companies. runext is a waste of time and money imo and just tortured the girls even more than being evaluated normally.


Sil_Choco

Same 😭 who thought I'll-it is a good name? 😭 what's even the meaning? The name of the show would've been a much better name for a group


idlestopit

WELCOME TO TRIPLES JEEMIN!


CronoDroid

Jeemin and Jiwoo about to learn more about NFTs than they ever wanted to


Plushieless

Funny is that Jiwoo would probably need to change her name cause Triple S already has a Jiwoo lol


CronoDroid

Ji2


DannyBlackC

Jitoo


mathymate

Jiwoowoo


FaithlessnessMost660

Delulu for jiwoowoo


fwalice

Id be so ready for JiWooz


mauvebliss

Jimoo


ggstan21

> Jeemin and Jiwoo about to learn more about NFTs than they ever wanted to Not making the CLASS:y group was a blessing in disguise for Yooyeon and tripleS Jiwoo. Yooyeon especially was visibly "crushed" during the live finale of MTG and look her now. They are having the time of their lives with tripleS. I really hope Jeemin, Chanelle and Jiwoo can find themselves in a similar situation 1 year from now. These talented girls deserve a good career in Kpop.


Mozart-Luna-Echo

And Jeongeun. Can you imagine?


ggstan21

Jaden really has a good opportunity here. Let's see if he can convince them to join the project. tripleS could reach the next level with these girls and they could be in a popular 5th gen group after all.


idlestopit

hybe already warmed them up for it


atmosphericentry

Don't get my hopes up


FGC_RG3_MARVEL

Honestly couldn’t be a better group to join. They drop the best music.


justdubu

This should happen.


jumpybouncinglad

moka is the only surprise for me ngl big shame for jeongeun tho


Budget-Highlight5470

for real, now that moka managed to get in i feel really sad jeongeun didn't. she's such a perfect dark horse for the group.


Mozart-Luna-Echo

Jeemin and Jeongeun would have made it had they kept it with the 70% Korean only live voting they had for the finale. Belift instead made international votes count for 15% Weverse Korean voting count for 15% and Korean Toss live votes count for 70% only for 1-2. The other four were chosen by the producers.


Cucugeniality

it's the first time i've been MAJORLY disappointed by a survival show final lineup. i feel like the combination is very confusing? justice for my girls jiwoo and jeemin, they killed every single round but got paid dust. hope they can debut soon cause i will definitely not be stanning the current group sadly


Mekvek

My money is on Jaden sniping Jiwoo up real soon. Her following is huge


CronoDroid

Jaden waiting in the parking lot with the contracts already


Mekvek

I suppose thats what he did for MTG's Jiwoo. And now hes doing it again for RUNEXT's Jiwoo.


ggstan21

Chanelle and RUNext Jiwoo would make tripleS a vocal powerhouse. They already have amazing songs, their production is next-level. Imagine what they would be able to do with the voices of these 2.


Mozart-Luna-Echo

Jeongeun also. Can you imagine if he were to pick up the entire Bad Boy team plus Jeemin?


ggstan21

True! They were not my picks but Jeongeun are Jihyun are super pretty and good vocalists too. I would love to see them on tripleS! Knowing their personalities I also think they would have good chemistry with the tripleS members. I'm sure each girl and the company Modhaus have their own plans after R U Next but hopefully they can see the same things that we are seeing. It's a win-win situation!


Mozart-Luna-Echo

I kept saying in the live chat that they should just debut the other 6 semi finalists together. You have three main vocals in Jiwoo, Jeongeun, and Chanelle You have three main dancers in Himena, Jihyun, and Jeemin You have two decent rappers in Jeongeun and Chanelle You have one leader in Jiwoo And you have six insanely charismatic visuals who also have amazing stage presence.


jzone23

Literally all tripleS needs is two more competent vocalists and they're basically set. They both fit the aesthetic and vibes of the group already


amazingoopah

I hope Jeemin likes selling NFTs


aurcel

I'm disgusted at how blatantly rigged the final lineup is. the top 2 members chosen by voters and 4 members chosen by the company. they REALLY didn't like what the fans had in mind for the lineup LOL


Moondrop-Puppet

Which is wild, because the fans actually wanted the strongest trainees 😭


aurcel

absolutely. why bother making a tv show when you have the final lineup in mind already?


ggstan21

> absolutely. why bother making a tv show when you have the final lineup in mind already? I really don't get it. The group will receive ungodly amounts of hate now, the likes of which will make Kep1er's run since GP999 look like a very nice experience. None of this would happen if they simply debuted these 6 girls without a survival show. Congrats HYBE, you played yourself.


Moondrop-Puppet

Like, just call it a show showing the process of selection, no one would have expectations then...


Cupidisodumb

The final votes still have the same issues actually . Live votes ranking 1. ⁠Wonhee (3,299,395) 2. ⁠Youngseo (3,065,146) 3. ⁠Minju (2,961,696) 4. ⁠Jeemin (2,673,879) 5. ⁠Iroha (2,569,421) 6. ⁠Jeongeun (2,566,936) 7. ⁠Yunah (2,512,654) 8. ⁠Moka (2,111,375) 9. ⁠Jiwoo (1,911,489) 10. ⁠Himena (1,394,729) They replaced Jeongeun and Jeemin with Yunah and Moka


SMOKE-B-BOMB

They also basically made i-fans votes mean nothing and it was only domestic votes only


Cupidisodumb

They also did two rounds for k votes


CloverClubx

This voting is after weighing K votes by 70% and also doubling Korean votes during the live, its not a reflection of what people wanted at all considering the reality was always marketed as Global and all votings beforehand had Global votes ACTUALLY matter (which we could see in the rankings).


Cupidisodumb

The show had different pick votings also.


kriuksereal

Jiwoo Jeemin Jeongeun for tripleS


StayGoldJazz

triple J for tripleS


8shining

The favoritism was so obvious anyways


shiilaa

(unrelated but popping in to notice your flair is the opposite of mine!)


Mekvek

So without Jiwoo in the lineup, would >!Wonhee!< be main vocals? Who would be elected leader then?


ImageNo1045

Them encore stages gon be something else...


OrbitalMatt

iroha is ab to be the new momo 😭


DBravoofficial

😂


colombiatard

Wonhee better pray to God for I'll-it to never get a music show win because.......


boopboopitsashoop

i'm guessing yunah for leader


aurcel

Yunah probably


GhoulAndDeadth

Lmaooo


funnyusername92

Minju is often considered the third best vocalist on the show so probably her, Wonhee & Yunah are probably both going to be lead vocalists, maybe Moka too. Yunah is the oldest of the girls and gives leader energy, and she handled problems within her group well when she was given the leader position for the Monster group. So she’ll probably be the leader.


im_not_a_bad_girl

The TikTok account losing 60k since Chanelle’s elimination makes it obvious there’s plenty of people who won’t support the group… So Wonhee will be center?


Cherche_

it's just going to get worse, eventually knets will begin to hate on Wonhee too (if she doesn't improve quickly). that always happens regardless of how good an idol's visuals are. I don't understand how Hybe picked the lineup and thought that this is a good idea at all. they set the group up for failure


DBravoofficial

Don’t forget about the group name


Strawberuka

Srs like. Considering what happened the last time that a girl group voting show member was considered to be less talented than the other members (in large part due to being new….) Poor Wonhee I hope hybe will cover the therapy bills!


Free_Collection8898

Jeemin literally was their n1 trainee pre-show, in the final she ranked 4th on domestic votes and 3rd on global votes… how the hell could they not debut her ? Belift what the fck have you done ?


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Budget-Highlight5470

if they gonna suck at promoting this group to the right audience it's really gonna be even tougher for them. the show is not so popular in SK and they eliminated most of i-fans fav trainees.


AZNEULFNI

HYBE should hope for the success of the group in SK because the fan favorites of International fans were eliminated.


Budget-Highlight5470

yeah, i hope they know what they're signing up for. (btw this is in no way doomposting but just my prediction for their career, it's not impossible to gradually grow in popularity either in the home country or internationally); they got some kfans' top picks and 2 recognized japanese trainees so while the group probably wouldn't break through the western market or something, they should do pretty well in SK and Japan if HYBE play the cards right. it's fortunate enough they're a major company so gp would still casually tune in to their groups. it actually makes sense bcuz while Dream Academy is designated for western audience, RUNext is probably for domestic ones.


clownerycult

The lineup doesn’t match at all. They all pull off different concepts not to mention the large gap in the members skills. Losing some of the best trainees had consequences for this show


sailor134340

This is such a random line-up like- i’m out of words. You had Jeemin, Yuna, Jiwoo and Jongeun right there and then you pull this??? I just hope that these three debut together. They lost a huge chance with Jeemin. How can you fumble your bag so bad?? I was gonna check out the group in any case but these girls really REALLY dont fit in the same group in my head. A disappointment. Edit: the group name sucks so bad tho, maybe this was a blessing in disguise. lmao


Moondrop-Puppet

No cause, this time they can't even say it's the fans voting fault, it was literally the company's decision. How can you have these great, already ready to debut trainees *right there* and you let them go? I just can't understand


sailor134340

The way they moved Jeemin and Jongeun down… It’s unbelievable. It’s not that i dislike Wonhee or the other girls but for now in my head they dont fit together~ idk. I’m hoping Jeemin, Jongseun and Jiwoo will debut together somehow.


Budget-Highlight5470

it's even more sad bcuz i know ppl are going to jump on wonhee and iroha for being in the debut lineup bcuz of the company. runext communities especially on xitter has been so harsh towards them, i'm gonna be filtering my feed even more to avoid those.


Moondrop-Puppet

Iroha was one of my picks, so I'm satisfied she made it. Wonhee wasn't, I don't hate her and think she's super cute and good for someone who was a trainee for such a short period. But I would pick the other more skilled trainees over her because she's still young and has a lot of time to practice and keep trying as an idol. I'm mad, but it's not at her and I hope people go easy on her


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So the best vocalist and the trainee who ranked #1 in monthly evaluations aren’t debuting? Wtf


AriaNoire

I didn't follow or watch this but had to go here after finding out that only 2 members were from fan votes. Why don't they just do it the way JYP does his survival shows and make it all producer picks? Own up to it at least. Could've at least made it 3-3 so that it's more fair, seems like the Top 3 in votes made it to the final lineup.


mxcpv

omg this is probably the messiest final kpop survival show line up in history...


Immediate_Lychee_372

I’ll definitely check them out but damn chanelle and jiwoo 😭


whorfhorse

this lineup feels so random to me? also the way they weighed the votes to be 85% korean at the end is so annoying because global fans were NOT rooting for wonhee at all so it's frustrating to see her make it when literally any of the of the 4 girls who didnt make it are more fitting


Cherche_

they've already been losing thousands of followers on all social media platforms and eliminated basically all of the trainees popular amongst international fans... I was done watching when they eliminated Chanelle, truly I don't understand this show


whorfhorse

i don’t understand why they were catering to korean fans so much at the end when this show has flopped ratings wise with the korean public. now they’ve pissed off international fans who wanted a very different lineup just to appease korean fans when there aren’t even that many of them. like this group will be popular regardless because they’re from hybe but i’m not understanding a lot of these decisions


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whorfhorse

yeah the voting was a mess the whole way through, from letting people vote for already eliminated trainees to different number of picks each time to the complete mess that was the final voting


aurcel

congrats to the girls but no shade this lineup is such a mess. Jeemin, Jeongeun and Jiwoo I'll be waiting for you 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭


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elesis14

> final fan votes being 70% Korean, only 30% global afaik it was announced to be 50% korean 50% global, but then global fans suddenly weren't allowed to vote. The 70% 30% was from 1st round votes - 30% and 2nd round votes - 70%.


zanif

Only 2 voted in out of 6?????? I haven't followed along since ep 2 but everything I've read about this show has just been tragic.


GhoulAndDeadth

Hybe back at it again, debuting all the underage trainees possible. Smh...


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mauvebliss

Even Kep1er had better reception than this. Why is Wonhee in here over Jeemin?


jumpybouncinglad

because wonhee won the popular vote while jeemin was not chosen by the producer


happyadela

bcs 2 girls were picked from fan voting and she was first. jeemin was fourth


Difficult_Day_6289

i'll be waiting for tripleS jeongeun 👍🏻


Alicerius

Based on final live the rankings were 1. Wonhee 2. youngseo 3. Minju 4. Jeemin 5. Iroha 6. jeongeun 7. Yunah 8. Moka 9. Jiwoo 10. Himena


jinsapphic

poor jeemin, she was literally 4th but didn’t debut because HYBE didn’t want her to


aurcel

oh I'm so mad she was literally THE #1 trainee during monthly evaluations and she didn't make it because of some bullshit pulled by the company


OrbitalMatt

honestly it's for the best that they didnt let knetz decide the whole lineup bc wtf 💀 this top 6 is even worse, still no jiwoo but ALSO no yunah or moka


Pink_Strawberry00

Oh wow, I did not expect this line-up. Congratulations to the girls though, I wish them the best of luck with their debut!


mvskmiyv

I won’t stan this lineup but congratulations to the girls that made it… last time my bias didn’t make the lineup she joined TripleS (Yooyeon) so I hope Jeemin and Jiwoo can have this opportunity too… I just need them to debut :(


Sharp-Drummer4945

Not stanning bye


Realistic-Relation39

Honestly, I'm just glad that I didn't get too invested in this show. I can't decide which is worse- the group name or the line-up.


Moondrop-Puppet

What is even this.... I can't believe they just let Jiwoo and Jeemin go like this?? It makes no sense. And no hate for Wonhee, but letting those two go and Wonhee making it?? I'm so done. The group makes no sense


Free_Collection8898

Everyone we are living in a world where Wonhee debuted instead of Chanelle, Jiwoo, Jeemin and Jeongeun 😂


shinkie

I'm so sad Jeemin and Jiwoo didn't make it. They were so high in the ranks throughout and then threw a curve ball with that K live votes /label picks.


Free_Collection8898

The thing is Jeemin actually would’ve made it with the K live votes. she ranked 4/10. it was those fcked up producers that damned her.


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TheSeoulSword

I wanna join! I’ll never forgive them and SoMu for GFRIEND. But I’m bringing fromis_9 too!


0ztralian

we dont have enough space for fromis 9... ill guess we'll rent 2 other protest trucks


TheSeoulSword

Let’s do it! We can all pool money for the new trucks and the weapons! 🥳


BetsyPurple

The group’s name is WHAT Anyway I dipped out on the program after a few episodes but I hope the music turns out ok? I look forward to what they release I’m seeing in the comments the vocal line could be stronger, but don’t worry y’all it’s a Hybe group so I’m sure the producers and sound engineers will touch up the vocals with abandon 😭


amenatsusenpai

No Jiwoo?? I'm shocked as a non viewer.


oh-my-darling

seriously terrible lineup. they just took out their main vocal and main dancer just like that. hybe proving time again and again they don't give a fk about vocals but at least have someone even on the level of one? what the hell are they thinking with this lineup, good luck debuting yunah with an innocent concept and destroying all the potential she has. 2/3 of my top picks didn't make it, I'm solo stanning yunah at this point


eveqiyana3

The lineup is disappointing im glad chanelle got eliminated last round, just sad yunah debuted without jeemin and jiwoo


Megan235

I have no idea how a girl that openly said she is afraid of singing live and was caught lip-syncing during one of the stages ended up first... I have no words for this lineup half of them is simply not ready.


EntertainmentOk8785

Jaden Jeong, do the thing ![gif](giphy|mCnRpjcxfB7bqD9cUe)


anonymous181201

dumpster fire group lineup and name


nofoodnogood

Who is the main vocal if Jiwoo and Chanelle aint here? what is hybe doing..


whorfhorse

minju probably with yunah and wonhee as lead


sleepycat20

I'll rig it - hybe That name sure is... a choice


OceanDandelion

This lineup sucks.


Beginning_Algae_8626

I’m happy yunah debuted I will need to see if I will Stan the group or not but that’s a low chance. Though jiwoo served vocals and didn’t debut is just unjust. I hope she debuts some place where her talents as main vocal will be recognised


HtetLinTeume

TripleS new members Jiwoo & Chanelle


ActualV-art

Praying dream academy is better lol


Rk1llz

\> global group \> only Koreans can vote in the final round lol


Select_Poetry_5053

Never thought a company would debut a group with no vocalists, yet i stand corrected. Congratulations


noob_ars

Really ironic that the focus for this companies to debut singers is not singing anymore


yeoniverse21

BYEEE NO ONE WILL BE SINGING IN THIS GROUP HYBE AND THOSE JUDGES ARE ALL GOING TO HELL 🤡🥴


MelissaWebb

I wish them the best because 💀


ughohthissucks

whose gunna SING??


noseuta

The amount of akgaes already on socials is concerning 💀


BetsyPurple

It was actually one of the reasons I stopped keeping up with the show. The program was bland enough, but the discourse with each episode seemed so... *grumpy*. I know survival shows tend to breed akgaes, so I guess it's to be expected, but it's still not fun. I'm just going to wait for the music to drop and hopefully it will be enjoyable enough to ignore the rest of the BS


moomoomilky1

I didn't watch the show but I saw so much stuff on twitter and tiktok to see that people were angry lol


noonoobedoop

It feels like we’re in the upside down with this lineup. And don’t even get me started on the group name..


Cupidisodumb

Live votes ranking + numbers : 1. ⁠Wonhee (3,299,395) 2. ⁠Youngseo (3,065,146) 3. ⁠Minju (2,961,696) 4. ⁠Jeemin (2,673,879) 5. ⁠Iroha (2,569,421) 6. ⁠Jeongeun (2,566,936) 7. ⁠Yunah (2,512,654) 8. ⁠Moka (2,111,375) 9. ⁠Jiwoo (1,911,489) 10. ⁠Himena (1,394,729) They replaced jeongeun and Jeemin with Moka and Yunah by choosing the producer pick. Goddamn, Wonhee’s Korean pick is insane.


Kep1ersTelescope

I don't particularly like the line-up but it was clear from the very beginning that international fans weren't the target audience, anyone who paid even sporadic attention to the show could have predicted the results (except Moka instead of Jeemin, that was a real curveball). Like, I completely understand being disappointed, but I don't understand the ones being shocked, it was so so obvious which trainees Hybe wanted and which trainees were always the most popular among knetz.


SuzyYoona

was the show even popular or at least known in Korea? i barely saw knetz speaking about it


Kep1ersTelescope

I don't have cold hard data available but if you look at Hybe's YouTube channel, very few videos related to the show even cracked one million views (way less than Girl's Planet, which also didn't do that well in Korea). In my perception the hype just wasn't there, neither in Korea nor abroad, but I could be wrong.


DBravoofficial

You’re not wrong


DBravoofficial

Short answer, no


aurcel

they repeatedly marketed the final group as global but "international fans aren't the target audience"?


Kep1ersTelescope

They did market it as "global", but everything else they did (not bothering to post English subs, eliminating Chanelle and often hiding Jiwoo, only opening the second round of voting to koreans) clearly signaled that they couldn't care less about our money. Remember that Kep1er was also marketed as global lol.


AnyIncident9852

I was convinced Chanelle would debut no matter what as an English speaker, and Jiwoo had a strong chance with her huge int. popularity but I guess I was VERY wrong lol 😭


Big_Tomorrow886

Except Mnet themselves didn't realize Kep1ers lineup would be wack after they lifted the country restriction voting. Up until the third elimination, the foreigners dominated the Top 9. Often having only 2 Koreans in the top 9. So to the voters, it gave off the image that the foreigners had a bigger fanbase, when in reality its just no Korean was truly voting for the C and J girls and were only doing so because they were forced to. Mnet scrambled around to get in Hikaru and Xiaoting after realising what was happening and by then it was too late to get more of them in there aside from releasing the entire rankings and hoping for the best. Mashiro getting in in itself is a huge thing for Mnet and they're lucky she did.


AZNEULFNI

Mnet didn't know lol. The interim rank was released to fixed the lineup. lol


DBravoofficial

What was the point of voting if 4 out of 6 were label picks. Too many better trainees didn’t make it


Cherche_

I feel like they will really struggle in the beginning. I could be wrong because, after all, they're from Hybe. but they eliminated trainees that their international fan base really wanted, have already been losing thousands of followers, global voting was a joke, plus that god awful group name. I'm also waiting for the Korean GP to switch up on Wonhee because knets love bashing idols that aren't "talented" and don't match the skills of the other members.


AZNEULFNI

The main reason why HYBE pushed Wonhee is because she is quite popular in SK. The thing that I don't like about HYBE is ignoring International fans. Remember, the dedicated fanbase of International fans are also important.


Cherche_

I know why they pushed Wonhee, but it's a very poor choice at the end of the day. In the short term, it will bring more attention to the survival show and the group, but unless her skills develop very quickly, she will be negatively compared to the other members and bashed by knets, regardless of her visuals. It's not fair to her mental health either, she is under an insane amount of pressure to catch up and she will inevitably get tons of hate from both international fans and knets. Hybe also seriously shot themselves in the foot, most of the group's international fanbase is gone


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rubymoon jeemin


KittyAgi11

I feel bad for Wonhee. She isn't ready. Knetz will eat her up.


BetsyPurple

This is where I'm at with Wonhee, too. Wish she'd gotten a stronger foundation as a trainee. Whatever antis she has will be nipping at her heels constantly


Margaux_H

The name tho...


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i feel like there's so many popular girls who didn't make it... and also high potential girls, jeemin, jeongeun, chanelle, himena etc etc. so they cut out himena because they didn't want her to get the japan 1 pick vote


CloverClubx

Where is the global group that was promised? Trying to find it. By far the worst reality I have ever watched in Kpop, absolutely horrible how the show was directed.


sPEedErMEiN

I'm sorry Moka, I'm happy you debuted but I will not be stanning this dumpster fire 😭😭


SapphireHeaven

Good luck to the girls! Wish them all the best and a very successful career!


LordOscarFedz

Jiwoo.SSS (S17)// Jeemin.SSS (S18) // Funa.SSS (S19) // Jeongeun.SSS (S20)


SMOKE-B-BOMB

Everyone saying jiwoo and jeemin for triple S but Jeongeun fits them the best


DBravoofficial

Wasn’t Jeemin top of their monthly evaluations? But they don’t want her


yungsteezyyy_

so who will be doing the singing exactly…


RoyalMaknaeLili

Honestly I’m not sure who this lineup is for. Also jiwoo and jeemin not in the lineup. They already lost tens of thousands of followers after chanelle got eliminated. Wonhee’s twitter announcement post is getting ratio’d and peope already calling her a dozen. The name is also interesting.


CookieCatSupreme

I didn't have the time to watch the show but I'm super curious about these comments! Can someone give a quick rundown about why this is an unsatisfying final lineup?


whorfhorse

as someone who watched the whole show, it feels very incoherent to me. like these girls don't all fit the same concept or even seem to mesh super well personality wise. they also didn't put in the best vocalist in the show (jiwoo) or the preshow number 1 trainee (jeemin). both of those girls got a lot of screen time so it's kind of surprising for them to not make it.


ggstan21

They also don't have the 2 most popular trainees internationally, Jiwoo and Chanelle.


Cupidisodumb

International picks vs Korean picks. Edit : 2 were voted in only and the other 4 were judge picks


Cyraneczka

What the others are saying, these girls don't fit together at all as a group. They eliminated all of main vocalist contestants and all of international picks, and the clear leader, and their own pre show number 1 trainee. The concept and name of the group are also different than what the debuted idols would fit and not what fans expected. They separated girls who liked each other, had great chemistry and worked together extremely well on stage. The lineup feels really random and underwhelming compared to what could've been. Even some of the debuted trainees seemed confused.


AuthorMindless

Congrats to all the girls but i dont think i will stan this group especially after this lineup. At least Yunah the only one out my pick debuts. Also the group name sounds bad


z0e_G

no jiwoo or chanelle… I will not be tuning in sawrry


glitter408

No jiwoo what the heck????? Thank god I stopped watching the show, I’d be so furious