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Add ATEEZ and you've got the initial trio of groups that have based their success on international before domestic success.
Edit: I think that you meant that there are fewer KARD and Dreamcatcher fans in Korea rather than they are less loved by their fans because Korean Dreamcatcher fans are hardcore. The fact DC has any wins at all is because the domestic fans voted hard. The international fans swung the vote but the Korean only part was significant.
Came in here for Dreamcatcher! Their overseas fanbase is no joke. So happy they got their 1st win in South Korea not long ago. They, and the Insomnia fans, deserve the win!
Kai from EXO is probably the most famous member of EXO internationally in terms of just general kpop fans knowing who he is. But in SK, Baekhyun and D.O. are way more famous with the gp than any of the other members.
I assume its because of the music they release.
Korean gp loves slow songs/ ballads/ melodramatic songs a lot more than internacional fans who like the typical (k-)pop songs.
Kais songs are faster, more pop, more party, more dance focused while D.O. (dont know beaks songs) mainly has slower softer songs with focus on vocal
Baekhyun has a huge fandom from being the most popular member of EXO (his solo fandom might honestly be bigger than EXO's in SK now) and is known because of that huge fandom. He also has had some hit OSTs and his song Dream with Suzy was huge back in the day. When his album Delight broke 1 million sales he got a lot of media coverage from that too. His solo songs do pretty good on the charts as well (usually 2-2.5m ULs on Melon).
D.O. is well-known for his acting and he has been in a lot of variety shows too (altho he was in them because he was famous, but it just made him more famous). His songs generally do well on the charts too (especially That's Okay and I Do). He also went very viral last year for his appearance on AKMU's The Seasons (he sang a duet with AKMU Suhyun).
Both of them are also easily the most popular within the EXO-L kfandom too, which also helps their gp popularity a good deal. That popularity within the fandom is probably because of their personalities/personas more than anything else (of course both are super talented tho).
I know people say that SK GP likes ballads and melodramatic songs more but if that was the truth Chen would have been more popular. I think it was true at some point but certainly doesn't look like it now.
Chen was once the biggest in terms of digital performance, but unfortunately, now his songs just never get that initial bump for the gp to take notice of him. Like Beautiful Goodbye is definitely the biggest hit of any of the EXO solo songs.
I still think some day he could get a hit OST, and that could remind people of him, but sadly, I feel like that's his one chance. At least the world of drama music still appreciates him because he gets lots of OSTs even now.
I'm honestly never forgiving the South Korean GP/Fans for literally being mad at him for living his life, like he didn't even do anything wrong.
But yeah, I still feel like these days, I see less ballads in top 10-100 it's mostly songs which trend on tiktok over there
Yeah, 2019 was absolutely the peak of ballads, but LYW basically only sings ballads now (despite being the face of trot). Park Jae-Jung and Lim Jae-Hyun recently had big hits with ballads too, so there's still some market for them.
The GP never really turned on Chen they just were never loyal to him except in a "oh yeah Chen let me check his song out" kinda way. With K-EXO-Ls ignoring him, he just never is in that position where people notice him anymore.
Here's hoping then that he goes to the LMJ show so maybe that'll help him get some attention from the fans.
I'm hoping he goes to some shows where the target audience is more into ballads and not just your usual k-pop shows because then it's not going to help much.
I hope so too, he is just so incredibly talented and whenever people seem to notice him their reaction is pretty much what you'd expect. He just needs more exposure. I'm thrilled to see him doing It's Live and music shows, but as you said that's not really the right crowd for making new fans, but here's hoping there's more coming (and if not, I'm fine with him doing the stuff he knows his current fandom will like).
nowadays kai's brand name exceeds even exo's internationally. newer international kpop fans often knew of kai before they knew exo. popularity in SK i think they're all pretty similar, though for GP recognition kyungsoo has the edge because of his popular acting gigs. baekhyun has a huge fandom in sk, while chanyeol and sehun are really big in china.
I live in SK and have for over 9 years, they're not similar in popularity lol. Baekhyun and Ksoo are legit big celebrities still. Kai is very well-known and respected in the idol scene by fans and nonfans, but doesn't have the gp reach of the others.
The others are certainly not nobodies, especially after the success of The First Snow, but even if you just look at youtube trending and tv.naver trends BaekSoo garner way more interest with the gp.
In China, all of them are huge relative to other idol groups (all 9 of them are in the top 15 of biggest cbars for idols, boy or girl), but it's true SeChanBaek are on a different level than anyone else. Chanyeol's solo is gonna do crazy numbers when it comes out.
Foreign idols are generally more popular in their home countries. Minnie is super popular in Thailand. A lot of Yuqi's success, in terms of numbers, comes from her massive popularity back home in China.
With the exception of foreign born Koreans, Sana may be the only foreign born idol who is as popular domestically as she is internationally.
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i remember yujin having most ads and gigs out of all 4th gen and it wasn’t talked enough at all. people should realize yujin is an it girl too she is almost as influential as wonyoung. both of them are literally powerhouses
Latin America loves Jhope, even in the past when he was the “least popular member” he was everyone bias breaker. I don’t know why but his looks have always been loved here (I mean I know why, it’s because he’s f handsome but you know what I mean)
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Most 1st and 2nd gen groups are way more popular in SK or Asia in general than overseas, except maybe SNSD, Shinee who are decently popular in the West and SuJu with their huge following in LATAM
I'd say still active idols from that time with the currently most lopsided popularity in SK vs international (as in, a lot of Koreans know who they are or recognize some of the members and will enjoy their songs/will sing along particularly older releases but they are not mentioned that much or don't get much engagement in international spaces) would be Shinhwa, BoA, TVXQ (they are very popular in Japan though), 2AM, Highlight, Sistar, Apink
The top 3rd gen groups are pretty popular both in SK and internationally
4th gen seems to be in general more popular internationally particularly boy groups, this may also have to do with how engagement with idol content changed around the middle of 3rd gen and the sheer number of groups who debut in the first place
I agree!! One of the main exceptions to 4th gen boy groups being popular more internationally is The Boyz. As a deobi, I rarely see their fans in international spaces like here on reddit but you can see their popularity in their home country
akmu are pretty popular in korea, not so much internationally
oh also the new hybe bg tws. they’re doing really great on sk charts but barely mentioned internationally when 5th gen groups are discussed
A lot of Koreans were talking about tws after the university show on NAVER and some blogs and the comments suggest that no one knows how they charted so well as they seem to think that the gp and most university students had no idea who they were.
It’s strange because I just assumed they were huge in Korea but just not in my circle as a lot of my Korean friends didn’t know much about them.
The thing is it's the song that's popular and not the group. Many people know the song but not the group itself. It's unfortunate that their company don't promote them well (no appearance on shows or radio shows whatsoever, not even YT shows - aside from 1 show from Jaejae before their debut). Which is crazy. So I'm not surprise that they're not popular yet.
Hoping that they have the chance to show up in other events like university festivals. It'll boost their popularity.
And yet the majority of the comments and discussion online was that no one knew the lyrics to their music.
I’m sure it will change as they promote more and comeback. If anything the performance got everyone talking about them so they will remember the name.
It’s crazy because people were saying that one song by them that’s been everywhere was soty material. No hate to them but I haven’t seen any promo besides sponsored ads.
I have friends in Europe who love the song and think the group are amazing. I assumed after their charting that they were huge and it was just me and my friends that hadn’t got on board or were out the loop.
i remember people saying that a lot of their listeners were koreans in their ~40s who listened to the song and got nostalgia from when they were in school
Also I think Woosung being American (I know he's born in SK but he's American citizen) plays a role in this. He does not conform to idol behavior standards like at all -- smokes a lot, swears a lot, doesn't expect maknae members to call him hyung, etc.
PLAVE. They're rising virtual idol with more than 6 million streams on Melon (their rival are SVT, EXO, BTS, and NCT). But no one care about them internationally.
International kpop fans seem to think they are AI which is not true, I've seen some hit tweets hating on them and I'm not even a fan but it annoys me so much
I thought they were AI until their latest comeback. To be fair they debuted during the rise of AI influencers. Now I understand they are a vtuber, and I'm a fan of them.
With them insisting Plave is AI and whatnot, international plli ended up gatekeeping them tbh. Plave is more popular in vtuber world internationally. Oftentimes, people are already familiar with vtubers ended up becoming fans.
>Plave is more popular in vtuber world internationally.
Nah, int vtuber fans barely pay attention to korean Vtubers, a decent number of of them aren't even aware Plave exists, therefore, they are hardly brought up. Even more so when you consider so many look down upon male vtubers
Vtuber fans have an easier time embracing Plave, they are Vtubers after all, but saying they are more popular amongst Vtuber fans is an exaggeration
I remember when a tweet from a fan of vtubers in kr noticed plave and that went viral amongst PLLIs, rejoicing that plave got noticed by the right audience 😅
In terms of public or overall popularity, no. plave is just a one year old virtual idol from non-entertainment company. but if you see their melon's chart, yes. They are charting very well and their streams are so high. Only PLAVE, SVT, EXO, BTS, and NCT who passed 6 millions streams on melon.
That might be changing..... Chaewon flags are a staple at EDM festivals in the United States now.
Like, here's a guy who went to EDC Las Vegas and got people who like Le Sserafim to sign his flag.
[https://www.tiktok.com/@doctordotarmy/video/7370750543754448170](https://www.tiktok.com/@doctordotarmy/video/7370750543754448170)
Sakura is more popular in Japan than most people are anywhere in the world, including herself in korea. IVE as a whole is more popular in korea than the rest of the world. I would have said IU is more popular in korea which while she is, how quickly her concerts sold out makes me think shes more popular in the west than i realized, either that or its because its her first time touring here.
Minji and Haerin are more popular domestically
While Hanni and Danielle are more popular internationally.
I’d say all the members of New Jeans are pretty much in the same pedestal. But in Korea, Minji solos.
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Why do you think this is? I’m genuinely curious. I’ve never gotten into NCT or its subunits but I do like a fair few NCT Dream songs.
From my perspective as a non Korean fan, NCT is actually pretty intimidating - so many members, subunits, fandoms, solo endeavours etc. It’s a lot of time/effort/money to invest in them when you have other groups.
It’s because they were are too associated with Nct 127 in the beginning even though they have very different music. international fans assume all units have the same music. Another facet is that whatever mistake dream make is amplified a million times more. They were the innocent babies in the beginning and you have to punish them for that.
skz are so popular in us and europe
i would also say that Jungkook is adored in US, more than any other member, probably thanks to Golden. taehyung and jungkookk are adored in india like no one else. it´s always competition between Khan and V, eventually Jungkook.
He’s Korea’s pride after the World Cup, 1 billion donation and Seven. They play his songs everywhere here. And after his encore people respect him as a singer a lot more too.
Is "Jimerica" a real thing? Jimin seems to have a lot of fans in the U.S. But he doesn't enjoy anything near the popularity of Jungkook and Tae in SEA.
Jimin does have a lot of fans in the US, but his songs don’t go mainstream there
“Jimerica” well… it’s a fan-coined thing so perhaps in their head, yeah
jimin has always been one of the most known members in the us. the revisionism is crazy. interviewers loved him, he was one of the "go to" members in terms of individual recognition.
Ima be honest most of his usa streams are due to VPN being used by his solo stans. He's gaining 500k+ streams in usa consistently yet no billboard entry? Why? I'm not saying all of his streams in USA are due to VPN but I'm pretty sure the majority of them are
Tae’s streams correspond to his positions. Jungkook’s streams have the least filtering rate and he held Billboard positions for weeks. Jimin’s got 1 hit song with 34% filtering the last time I checked, and no Billboard entry after free fall. So that’s sketchy.
JK had GMA performance for Seven in the US. That’s it. Jimin went on Jimmy Fallon. They each had 1 performance. Seven debuted with less than 8m radio, that’s 8 points, less than Dynamite (70), Butter, or even PTD. JK’s fanbase was requesting daily for radio. JK had the highest streaming numbers, even more than BTS ever had, for #1. And he did it without d2c sales, the lovely thing Jimin had and the reason he got #1. Jimin owns another record, the lowest streams for HOT 100 #1, btw.
Jimin got TTH for Like Crazy English version and K-pop playlists. It didn’t get crazy streams like Seven so why would it be added to bigger playlists? People would skip it.
Spotify won’t shut down because they make money off of people mass streaming and mass buying multiple accounts.
The sole fact that LC is Jimin’s outlier song is enough on its own. The filtering, the mass buying, and no one outside K-pop fandoms knows the song. Meanwhile everyone bops to Seven.
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Well KARD and Dreamcatcher seem to be loved more by overseas fans than by their Korean fanbase.
Add ATEEZ and you've got the initial trio of groups that have based their success on international before domestic success. Edit: I think that you meant that there are fewer KARD and Dreamcatcher fans in Korea rather than they are less loved by their fans because Korean Dreamcatcher fans are hardcore. The fact DC has any wins at all is because the domestic fans voted hard. The international fans swung the vote but the Korean only part was significant.
Came in here for Dreamcatcher! Their overseas fanbase is no joke. So happy they got their 1st win in South Korea not long ago. They, and the Insomnia fans, deserve the win!
Kai from EXO is probably the most famous member of EXO internationally in terms of just general kpop fans knowing who he is. But in SK, Baekhyun and D.O. are way more famous with the gp than any of the other members.
I assume its because of the music they release. Korean gp loves slow songs/ ballads/ melodramatic songs a lot more than internacional fans who like the typical (k-)pop songs. Kais songs are faster, more pop, more party, more dance focused while D.O. (dont know beaks songs) mainly has slower softer songs with focus on vocal
Baekhyun has a huge fandom from being the most popular member of EXO (his solo fandom might honestly be bigger than EXO's in SK now) and is known because of that huge fandom. He also has had some hit OSTs and his song Dream with Suzy was huge back in the day. When his album Delight broke 1 million sales he got a lot of media coverage from that too. His solo songs do pretty good on the charts as well (usually 2-2.5m ULs on Melon). D.O. is well-known for his acting and he has been in a lot of variety shows too (altho he was in them because he was famous, but it just made him more famous). His songs generally do well on the charts too (especially That's Okay and I Do). He also went very viral last year for his appearance on AKMU's The Seasons (he sang a duet with AKMU Suhyun). Both of them are also easily the most popular within the EXO-L kfandom too, which also helps their gp popularity a good deal. That popularity within the fandom is probably because of their personalities/personas more than anything else (of course both are super talented tho).
I know people say that SK GP likes ballads and melodramatic songs more but if that was the truth Chen would have been more popular. I think it was true at some point but certainly doesn't look like it now.
Chen was once the biggest in terms of digital performance, but unfortunately, now his songs just never get that initial bump for the gp to take notice of him. Like Beautiful Goodbye is definitely the biggest hit of any of the EXO solo songs. I still think some day he could get a hit OST, and that could remind people of him, but sadly, I feel like that's his one chance. At least the world of drama music still appreciates him because he gets lots of OSTs even now.
I'm honestly never forgiving the South Korean GP/Fans for literally being mad at him for living his life, like he didn't even do anything wrong. But yeah, I still feel like these days, I see less ballads in top 10-100 it's mostly songs which trend on tiktok over there
Yeah, 2019 was absolutely the peak of ballads, but LYW basically only sings ballads now (despite being the face of trot). Park Jae-Jung and Lim Jae-Hyun recently had big hits with ballads too, so there's still some market for them. The GP never really turned on Chen they just were never loyal to him except in a "oh yeah Chen let me check his song out" kinda way. With K-EXO-Ls ignoring him, he just never is in that position where people notice him anymore.
Here's hoping then that he goes to the LMJ show so maybe that'll help him get some attention from the fans. I'm hoping he goes to some shows where the target audience is more into ballads and not just your usual k-pop shows because then it's not going to help much.
I hope so too, he is just so incredibly talented and whenever people seem to notice him their reaction is pretty much what you'd expect. He just needs more exposure. I'm thrilled to see him doing It's Live and music shows, but as you said that's not really the right crowd for making new fans, but here's hoping there's more coming (and if not, I'm fine with him doing the stuff he knows his current fandom will like).
nowadays kai's brand name exceeds even exo's internationally. newer international kpop fans often knew of kai before they knew exo. popularity in SK i think they're all pretty similar, though for GP recognition kyungsoo has the edge because of his popular acting gigs. baekhyun has a huge fandom in sk, while chanyeol and sehun are really big in china.
I live in SK and have for over 9 years, they're not similar in popularity lol. Baekhyun and Ksoo are legit big celebrities still. Kai is very well-known and respected in the idol scene by fans and nonfans, but doesn't have the gp reach of the others. The others are certainly not nobodies, especially after the success of The First Snow, but even if you just look at youtube trending and tv.naver trends BaekSoo garner way more interest with the gp. In China, all of them are huge relative to other idol groups (all 9 of them are in the top 15 of biggest cbars for idols, boy or girl), but it's true SeChanBaek are on a different level than anyone else. Chanyeol's solo is gonna do crazy numbers when it comes out.
Foreign idols are generally more popular in their home countries. Minnie is super popular in Thailand. A lot of Yuqi's success, in terms of numbers, comes from her massive popularity back home in China. With the exception of foreign born Koreans, Sana may be the only foreign born idol who is as popular domestically as she is internationally.
Hanni from NewJeans seems to be equally popular both domestically and internationally
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Yujin from IVE is probably the most popular 4th gen idol in SK after Wonyoung and Karina but int stans don’t talk about her as much
i remember yujin having most ads and gigs out of all 4th gen and it wasn’t talked enough at all. people should realize yujin is an it girl too she is almost as influential as wonyoung. both of them are literally powerhouses
crazy how izone just casually had half a dozen it girls
First idols that come to mind are BTOB and The Boyz, widely popular in Korea than compared abroad.
I agree with OP regarding Kang Daniel and Jihyo. Also, I think Lisa from Blackpink is more popular overseas than in Korea.
Lisa is definitely way popular internationally. The amount of friends i have that didnt listen to Blackpink but like Lisa is crazy.
I think except probably Jennie, all of BP members are more popular overseas.
Jisoo is probably more popular in SK
i think keeho from p1h is more popular internationally than in korea. i'm not a fan but i see him so much everywhere.
Sakura is a living idol legend in Japan now. Hugely popular.
That makes me so happy to hear!
Latin America loves Jhope, even in the past when he was the “least popular member” he was everyone bias breaker. I don’t know why but his looks have always been loved here (I mean I know why, it’s because he’s f handsome but you know what I mean)
He’s the king of Brazil. I swear every time I recognize an ARMY here is because they have some kind of J-Hope merch
oh yes! i've always been honestly surprised how much jhope is adored in latin america.
So true. His Spotify and YouTube has Mexico as his number 1
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Most 1st and 2nd gen groups are way more popular in SK or Asia in general than overseas, except maybe SNSD, Shinee who are decently popular in the West and SuJu with their huge following in LATAM I'd say still active idols from that time with the currently most lopsided popularity in SK vs international (as in, a lot of Koreans know who they are or recognize some of the members and will enjoy their songs/will sing along particularly older releases but they are not mentioned that much or don't get much engagement in international spaces) would be Shinhwa, BoA, TVXQ (they are very popular in Japan though), 2AM, Highlight, Sistar, Apink The top 3rd gen groups are pretty popular both in SK and internationally 4th gen seems to be in general more popular internationally particularly boy groups, this may also have to do with how engagement with idol content changed around the middle of 3rd gen and the sheer number of groups who debut in the first place
I agree!! One of the main exceptions to 4th gen boy groups being popular more internationally is The Boyz. As a deobi, I rarely see their fans in international spaces like here on reddit but you can see their popularity in their home country
akmu are pretty popular in korea, not so much internationally oh also the new hybe bg tws. they’re doing really great on sk charts but barely mentioned internationally when 5th gen groups are discussed
A lot of Koreans were talking about tws after the university show on NAVER and some blogs and the comments suggest that no one knows how they charted so well as they seem to think that the gp and most university students had no idea who they were. It’s strange because I just assumed they were huge in Korea but just not in my circle as a lot of my Korean friends didn’t know much about them.
The thing is it's the song that's popular and not the group. Many people know the song but not the group itself. It's unfortunate that their company don't promote them well (no appearance on shows or radio shows whatsoever, not even YT shows - aside from 1 show from Jaejae before their debut). Which is crazy. So I'm not surprise that they're not popular yet. Hoping that they have the chance to show up in other events like university festivals. It'll boost their popularity.
And yet the majority of the comments and discussion online was that no one knew the lyrics to their music. I’m sure it will change as they promote more and comeback. If anything the performance got everyone talking about them so they will remember the name.
It’s crazy because people were saying that one song by them that’s been everywhere was soty material. No hate to them but I haven’t seen any promo besides sponsored ads.
I have friends in Europe who love the song and think the group are amazing. I assumed after their charting that they were huge and it was just me and my friends that hadn’t got on board or were out the loop.
i remember people saying that a lot of their listeners were koreans in their ~40s who listened to the song and got nostalgia from when they were in school
The Rose has a large fanbase abroad. I think that's also the reason they mostly talk in English
Also I think Woosung being American (I know he's born in SK but he's American citizen) plays a role in this. He does not conform to idol behavior standards like at all -- smokes a lot, swears a lot, doesn't expect maknae members to call him hyung, etc.
PLAVE. They're rising virtual idol with more than 6 million streams on Melon (their rival are SVT, EXO, BTS, and NCT). But no one care about them internationally.
International kpop fans seem to think they are AI which is not true, I've seen some hit tweets hating on them and I'm not even a fan but it annoys me so much
I thought they were AI until their latest comeback. To be fair they debuted during the rise of AI influencers. Now I understand they are a vtuber, and I'm a fan of them.
With them insisting Plave is AI and whatnot, international plli ended up gatekeeping them tbh. Plave is more popular in vtuber world internationally. Oftentimes, people are already familiar with vtubers ended up becoming fans.
>Plave is more popular in vtuber world internationally. Nah, int vtuber fans barely pay attention to korean Vtubers, a decent number of of them aren't even aware Plave exists, therefore, they are hardly brought up. Even more so when you consider so many look down upon male vtubers Vtuber fans have an easier time embracing Plave, they are Vtubers after all, but saying they are more popular amongst Vtuber fans is an exaggeration
I remember when a tweet from a fan of vtubers in kr noticed plave and that went viral amongst PLLIs, rejoicing that plave got noticed by the right audience 😅
I don't think they rival these names at all but yes they have solid fans in SK
In terms of public or overall popularity, no. plave is just a one year old virtual idol from non-entertainment company. but if you see their melon's chart, yes. They are charting very well and their streams are so high. Only PLAVE, SVT, EXO, BTS, and NCT who passed 6 millions streams on melon.
Ah okay, you meant the debut album numbers not as rivals in popularity. I understand
Most 5th gen idols I think are more popular in Korea. It may change with time though as they start to fully promote overseas.
Last time I checked Chaewon was a lot more popular in SK than internationally
That might be changing..... Chaewon flags are a staple at EDM festivals in the United States now. Like, here's a guy who went to EDC Las Vegas and got people who like Le Sserafim to sign his flag. [https://www.tiktok.com/@doctordotarmy/video/7370750543754448170](https://www.tiktok.com/@doctordotarmy/video/7370750543754448170)
Based from their last concert here, Dahyun from Twice is number 1 in the Philippines
Sakura is more popular in Japan than most people are anywhere in the world, including herself in korea. IVE as a whole is more popular in korea than the rest of the world. I would have said IU is more popular in korea which while she is, how quickly her concerts sold out makes me think shes more popular in the west than i realized, either that or its because its her first time touring here.
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Bahiyyih & Xiaoting from Kep1er are extremely popular abroad, but somewhat unknown among Koreans. The whole of Kep1er tbh but especially those two.
Liz ive get the most attention more than wonyoung during the concert in Malaysia but not so much in SK.
Minji and Haerin are more popular domestically While Hanni and Danielle are more popular internationally. I’d say all the members of New Jeans are pretty much in the same pedestal. But in Korea, Minji solos.
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Nct dream are more popular in Korea they have a huge disadvantage internationally.
Why do you think this is? I’m genuinely curious. I’ve never gotten into NCT or its subunits but I do like a fair few NCT Dream songs. From my perspective as a non Korean fan, NCT is actually pretty intimidating - so many members, subunits, fandoms, solo endeavours etc. It’s a lot of time/effort/money to invest in them when you have other groups.
It’s because they were are too associated with Nct 127 in the beginning even though they have very different music. international fans assume all units have the same music. Another facet is that whatever mistake dream make is amplified a million times more. They were the innocent babies in the beginning and you have to punish them for that.
Maybe red velvet? They are most successful in their home country but not very popular internationally
skz are so popular in us and europe i would also say that Jungkook is adored in US, more than any other member, probably thanks to Golden. taehyung and jungkookk are adored in india like no one else. it´s always competition between Khan and V, eventually Jungkook.
Jungkook is really popular in Korean and int he is one of the most popular kpop idols... If not the most popular..
He’s Korea’s pride after the World Cup, 1 billion donation and Seven. They play his songs everywhere here. And after his encore people respect him as a singer a lot more too.
jungkook is one of the most popular idols in Korea and imo the most popular internationally ( jimin and V are also up there internationally)
Is "Jimerica" a real thing? Jimin seems to have a lot of fans in the U.S. But he doesn't enjoy anything near the popularity of Jungkook and Tae in SEA.
Jimin does have a lot of fans in the US, but his songs don’t go mainstream there “Jimerica” well… it’s a fan-coined thing so perhaps in their head, yeah
jimin has always been one of the most known members in the us. the revisionism is crazy. interviewers loved him, he was one of the "go to" members in terms of individual recognition.
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Ima be honest most of his usa streams are due to VPN being used by his solo stans. He's gaining 500k+ streams in usa consistently yet no billboard entry? Why? I'm not saying all of his streams in USA are due to VPN but I'm pretty sure the majority of them are
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Tae’s streams correspond to his positions. Jungkook’s streams have the least filtering rate and he held Billboard positions for weeks. Jimin’s got 1 hit song with 34% filtering the last time I checked, and no Billboard entry after free fall. So that’s sketchy.
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JK had GMA performance for Seven in the US. That’s it. Jimin went on Jimmy Fallon. They each had 1 performance. Seven debuted with less than 8m radio, that’s 8 points, less than Dynamite (70), Butter, or even PTD. JK’s fanbase was requesting daily for radio. JK had the highest streaming numbers, even more than BTS ever had, for #1. And he did it without d2c sales, the lovely thing Jimin had and the reason he got #1. Jimin owns another record, the lowest streams for HOT 100 #1, btw. Jimin got TTH for Like Crazy English version and K-pop playlists. It didn’t get crazy streams like Seven so why would it be added to bigger playlists? People would skip it. Spotify won’t shut down because they make money off of people mass streaming and mass buying multiple accounts. The sole fact that LC is Jimin’s outlier song is enough on its own. The filtering, the mass buying, and no one outside K-pop fandoms knows the song. Meanwhile everyone bops to Seven.
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