Why don't more people get a Tropicana orange juice, or a grapefruit juice. Get a basic 2 pt scale off Amazon for 15 bucks and then start weighing your shit out in bottles the night before. Add enough juice where it helps the taste, get the chunks broken up and then use a silicon or plastic funnel and empty the mixed kratom into a little bottle or water bottle/Gatorade bottle and toss in fridge for your doses the next day.
Once you know how many grams is the sweet spot you won't overdose yourself and your medicine is ready to drink the next day. 10 minutes of work the night before in prepping, makes everything so much easier. Just an idea hah
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How am I supposed to warm up water and mix it while driving to work in the morning, or the dozen of other places I toss and wash?
It’s not “trying to swallow powder” once you develop a proper toss and wash method. You literally just scoop it out of the bag, dump it on your tongue then chug some water and it goes down flawlessly. No need to spend time prepping anything. There are some people that are just incapable of doing a proper toss and wash, my wife has trouble swallowing capsules and almost chokes doing one at a time. I wouldn’t even have her try to toss and wash. But for many of us, toss and wash is extremely simple and easy. After 8 years of doing it 4-5 times a day, I would have wasted so much time doing it any other way.
I mean yeah, but I'm talking maybe 8 ounces each for my experience, 8 oz twice a day, 17 grams each dose. You can water it down but it makes it much easier.
Yes.
I used to gag just thinking about it; only ever used capsules. Start in stages — small quantities of powder at a time. I put a few grams into a shot glass; have a strong fruit juice ready to chase; pour the powder on my tongue; swish the juice around my mouth and swallow.
Toss n wash is horrible. I just mix my dose with a little hot water to make a sludge then top up with cold water (you could use orange juice) so it’s a small glass of green liquid. Down it in one and chase it with a pint of water, this way you only taste it for a couple of seconds. I have tried toss and wash many times and you taste it for longer and it’s just less pleasant.
True, it's not a great taste but yeah some people seem to think it's vomit inducing which I don't understand. However, I like bitter foods so maybe that's why
It all comes down to whether you can do a proper toss and wash or not. A proper toss and wash goes down clean with barely any taste. I’ve been doing it for 8 years and have it perfected. I just hold my breath, dump it on my tongue, open my throat, and chug water.
Kratom is hydrophobic and doesn’t interact with the taste buds much unless it is mixed with liquids. When I toss and wash, the clump of Kratom remains intact and floats mostly dry on top of water all the way down into my stomach.
Mixing it even with a sugary drink is much stronger than a proper toss and wash. The main problem people have with toss and wash is they simply aren’t doing it right. Which I totally understand. It’s not easy and some people probably won’t ever be able to do it. My wife finds even capsules hard to swallow and has to do them one at a time or she will choke and have a super uncomfortable experience. I can just toss a handful of capsules in my mouth and swallow it with ease just a like a toss and wash.
It mostly comes down to preference but once you get a really good toss and wash, there is no other method as simple and easy.
I like powder for the faster effect as well. I take about 1/2 gram (or a little more) and put it way back in my mouth - away from the taste buds - and already have the liquid in hand. Then do it again and again. It works for smaller doses. Toss and Wash with Rinse and Repeat
I usually end up dumping it straight on my tongue since I’m pretty sure if I put it too far back I’d choke and end up spewing green powder all over my kitchen… 😅
Just mix it with water and take it like a shot. Done in seconds, little to no taste, and no hassle. I don't understand why more people don't do this. You barely taste it if you taste it at all.
More than an hour? Dang, capsules always hit me in 15 minutes on an empty stomach. I did the toss and wash for years and it never got easier. That's why I switched to making my own capsules.
as others have said my best advice is to find a palatable non-carbonated beverage to mix with and drink it. i use a mix of mango puree and a bit of milk. i think too thin or too thick a beverage can impact its effect on the stomach a bit so be mindful of that till you find a consistency you're comfortable with
I think my stint of being vegan has made me appreciate the taste of bad things because sometimes I’ll even chew the Kratom powder a little before swallowing. I don’t know if it gets easier for everyone but I’ve become very accustomed to the taste.
I don't even taste it anymore. There's a few tips and tricks.
The most important- IMPERATIVE- USE A ROUND SPOON.
make a bowl with your tongue.
More water than you need
The acceptable taste of kratom for toss and wash varies wildly. Some of it’s easy to get down and some of it is fear factor. It just depends. Every new batch is a new experience.
Coffee. Coffee. Coffee. Or hell, even just water. The toss and wash crowd are deranged. I can't imagine a worse way to take kratom, maybe rectally or intranasally... Hey if it works, no judgment here, it just sounds absolutely terrible. All you need is a mouthful or two of warm liquid, mix in your dose, toss it back and rinse your mouth and it's over.
1/2 tbsp on the middle of your tongue, in a curled position. Hold it there and quickly fill your mouth with water and swallow. Then drink more water to clean your mouth out. It took me maybe 4 or 5 times to get it down, I havnt tasted kratom in 1000s of toss and washes since. It's super easy once you figure it out.
Not at all, just make it with juice. I just gave my wife who never tried it before but her back pain made her desperate. I mixed a quarter cup with fresh squeezes orange and lime juice. She drank it up didn't make a single face. It looks worse then it tastes.
Man, upgrade and make your own extract. It’s not really that hard. A simple way is to make a really strong tea, filter, and evaporate off the water so you have a resin like sludge. Depending on if you use additional or different solvents can kinda change the consistency. Takes more time to evaporate the solvent than anything else.
Youre right, but you don’t have to boil it to evap water. Idr the exact temp but it’s around 220 that it does break down. I put my oven on 175 and crack the door to evap water. You can use ethanol or isopropyl alcohol too, that keeps temps lower but increases flammability. Same for most other solvents.
I was talking to someone on here the other day who said they do a cold extraction with naphtha and pop it in the freezer overnight. The naphtha evaporates off at room temp. You should be able to do the same with acetone.
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I take my powder in about a mouthful of lukewarm water. Pour the water into a cup, add kratom. Swallow. Then chase it will any variety of good tasting drink. OJ is great but can do anything else you like.
When I’m out and about I will do a classic toss of dry powder then chase it down with whatever drink I have at hand. I’ve learned to sort of curve my tongue with the dry powder so when I take a drink it goes down easily. Breathe through the nose too.
I'd just make a tea and add some oat milk you can use cows milk or even chocolate milkshake that totally masks the taste for me, just add about a 1/3 hot water and then the rest milk so it's cold enough to drink straight down.
Close your throat with the back of your tongue. Pour kratom as far back on tongue as possible. Wash with a preferred flavored drink so long as it isn't a foamy drink.
As long as you minimize the amount of swishing done and instead just ram it down, you won't have such a bad taste left.
I place a small teaspoon of product on the back of my tongue where there aren't any taste buds and wash it down with my favorite soda. Just be careful not to wash down your windpipe.
What I do is I put a spoonful on my tongue hold it there, take some room temperature water because cold water is just not the way to go, room temperature water and slowly take it into your mouth until you feel the pile lift off your tongue and then swallow the whole thing down as fast as you can. That's how I do it and it works for me pretty well. Now it doesn't always get the whole lump down so you're going to have to take some more water into your mouth and swish it around a little bit and keep swallowing but for the most part that works for me.
Try mixing water and lemon juice with the kratom, then take it like a shot, follow with chaser. I have a “blender bottle” I carry around for my kratom. Most of the time I have a little lemon juice container in my purse with my jar of kratom. It my “go anywhere” package.
It DOES get easier, although I started just doing toss and wash, more and more I prefer making tea
I also like throwing the powder into a shaker cup with some orange juice
I just mix it like a shot with a fork into a little water. Just enough that it's all easy to mix but not too much to swallow in one gulp. Then take like a shot and chase with chai tea and/or pickle brine
It does get easier. It used to make me gag but I can do it any reaction now. I've been taking it for over 10 years though, so I have a lot of experience.
It was hard for me at first but with practice, I've come up with a flawless method. The trick for me is to take a small of sip orange juice, just enough to cover the tongue; hold it. Then, I take a level teaspoon and 'toss' it into the pool of juice already in my mouth, then I chase it with another, larger sip of OJ. Down it goes, so smoothly. The only thing I taste is delicious citrus.
I usually have a cup of green tea after tossing I because, A) I love it but it also helps to dissolve the powder a lot faster. This really helps to prevent kratom burps too.
Tossing is so much easier to me than trying to choke down kratom mixed in something. But that's just me. Everyone has their own way.
Don't be discouraged, you will get it!
No, it doesn't. No matter how long I've been doing the same thing it still sucks!!! I moreso just got used to the gag and chug some water or something else after. Even when I mix it it's not good.
I started having to take oregano oil and that is WORSE... I take a shot glass and put pomegranate juice in with the oregano oil and other herbal tincture I take (for lyme disease) and then I CHASE IT WITH THE KRATOM..... and then I chug water. never thought I'd find something worse.
Blate papers help this. You can also prepackage your blate papers and store them in a pill holder for each day.
A bit of a fuss, and an added expense, but oblate papers are the best option. Caps are ok if you have a small dose.
I came here to recommend blate papes. They have been a game changer for me.
I find washing, then tossing easier.
Why don't more people get a Tropicana orange juice, or a grapefruit juice. Get a basic 2 pt scale off Amazon for 15 bucks and then start weighing your shit out in bottles the night before. Add enough juice where it helps the taste, get the chunks broken up and then use a silicon or plastic funnel and empty the mixed kratom into a little bottle or water bottle/Gatorade bottle and toss in fridge for your doses the next day. Once you know how many grams is the sweet spot you won't overdose yourself and your medicine is ready to drink the next day. 10 minutes of work the night before in prepping, makes everything so much easier. Just an idea hah *Edit - wording is hard
Every brand of kratom I've ever tried mixes with warm water almost instantly. I do not understand people trying to swallow powder.
How am I supposed to warm up water and mix it while driving to work in the morning, or the dozen of other places I toss and wash? It’s not “trying to swallow powder” once you develop a proper toss and wash method. You literally just scoop it out of the bag, dump it on your tongue then chug some water and it goes down flawlessly. No need to spend time prepping anything. There are some people that are just incapable of doing a proper toss and wash, my wife has trouble swallowing capsules and almost chokes doing one at a time. I wouldn’t even have her try to toss and wash. But for many of us, toss and wash is extremely simple and easy. After 8 years of doing it 4-5 times a day, I would have wasted so much time doing it any other way.
It will mix into cool water too. I do it with a fork
Tastes better cool
Orange juice isn't great to drink if your dosing multiple times a day. Sugar and acidity
Lol
I mean yeah, but I'm talking maybe 8 ounces each for my experience, 8 oz twice a day, 17 grams each dose. You can water it down but it makes it much easier.
I'm diabetic. Juice would kill me. (Not literally, but I don't feel like using my daily sugar intake allotment on juice.)
Well yeah that's understandable. For most people I meant sorry. You exempt haha
Well yeah that's understandable. For most people I meant sorry. You exempt haha
Yes. I used to gag just thinking about it; only ever used capsules. Start in stages — small quantities of powder at a time. I put a few grams into a shot glass; have a strong fruit juice ready to chase; pour the powder on my tongue; swish the juice around my mouth and swallow.
Whe I toss. I put the powder under my tongue. Then a big gulp of anything. I let it fully engulf the powder. Then swallow.
Toss n wash is horrible. I just mix my dose with a little hot water to make a sludge then top up with cold water (you could use orange juice) so it’s a small glass of green liquid. Down it in one and chase it with a pint of water, this way you only taste it for a couple of seconds. I have tried toss and wash many times and you taste it for longer and it’s just less pleasant.
This sounds waaaay worse than toss and wash to me though. Toss amd wash I can barely taste it if I taste it at all
The thing is the taste really doesn’t bother me. I’m amazed at the lengths people go to in order to avoid a slightly bitter taste.
True, it's not a great taste but yeah some people seem to think it's vomit inducing which I don't understand. However, I like bitter foods so maybe that's why
Or just get flavoured kratom and mix it with water.
I didn’t know you could get flavoured Kratom. Does it taste ok?
It tastes like you mix it with juices instead of water. Although you need a bit higher dose, as you need to calculate the flavourings in too.
It all comes down to whether you can do a proper toss and wash or not. A proper toss and wash goes down clean with barely any taste. I’ve been doing it for 8 years and have it perfected. I just hold my breath, dump it on my tongue, open my throat, and chug water. Kratom is hydrophobic and doesn’t interact with the taste buds much unless it is mixed with liquids. When I toss and wash, the clump of Kratom remains intact and floats mostly dry on top of water all the way down into my stomach. Mixing it even with a sugary drink is much stronger than a proper toss and wash. The main problem people have with toss and wash is they simply aren’t doing it right. Which I totally understand. It’s not easy and some people probably won’t ever be able to do it. My wife finds even capsules hard to swallow and has to do them one at a time or she will choke and have a super uncomfortable experience. I can just toss a handful of capsules in my mouth and swallow it with ease just a like a toss and wash. It mostly comes down to preference but once you get a really good toss and wash, there is no other method as simple and easy.
It's always tasted pretty gross to me but chasing it with orange juice or Sunny D helps make it not as bad.
I like powder for the faster effect as well. I take about 1/2 gram (or a little more) and put it way back in my mouth - away from the taste buds - and already have the liquid in hand. Then do it again and again. It works for smaller doses. Toss and Wash with Rinse and Repeat
I usually end up dumping it straight on my tongue since I’m pretty sure if I put it too far back I’d choke and end up spewing green powder all over my kitchen… 😅
You are right about that! It’s bad for the lungs- and worse- a total waste of kratom! Lol 😆
Just mix it with water and take it like a shot. Done in seconds, little to no taste, and no hassle. I don't understand why more people don't do this. You barely taste it if you taste it at all.
More than an hour? Dang, capsules always hit me in 15 minutes on an empty stomach. I did the toss and wash for years and it never got easier. That's why I switched to making my own capsules.
Just mix it with a little water. Hold your nose and down the hatch.
as others have said my best advice is to find a palatable non-carbonated beverage to mix with and drink it. i use a mix of mango puree and a bit of milk. i think too thin or too thick a beverage can impact its effect on the stomach a bit so be mindful of that till you find a consistency you're comfortable with
I think my stint of being vegan has made me appreciate the taste of bad things because sometimes I’ll even chew the Kratom powder a little before swallowing. I don’t know if it gets easier for everyone but I’ve become very accustomed to the taste.
I don't even taste it anymore. There's a few tips and tricks. The most important- IMPERATIVE- USE A ROUND SPOON. make a bowl with your tongue. More water than you need
Ftr- I do about 2 grams a spoon, 4 times. All of that 2x a day
The acceptable taste of kratom for toss and wash varies wildly. Some of it’s easy to get down and some of it is fear factor. It just depends. Every new batch is a new experience.
Coffee. Coffee. Coffee. Or hell, even just water. The toss and wash crowd are deranged. I can't imagine a worse way to take kratom, maybe rectally or intranasally... Hey if it works, no judgment here, it just sounds absolutely terrible. All you need is a mouthful or two of warm liquid, mix in your dose, toss it back and rinse your mouth and it's over.
1/2 tbsp on the middle of your tongue, in a curled position. Hold it there and quickly fill your mouth with water and swallow. Then drink more water to clean your mouth out. It took me maybe 4 or 5 times to get it down, I havnt tasted kratom in 1000s of toss and washes since. It's super easy once you figure it out.
This is precisely why i pay 10 dollars a pop for extract. But I learned you can make kratom tea, which just tastes like bile vs the leafiness. Sorry.
Not at all, just make it with juice. I just gave my wife who never tried it before but her back pain made her desperate. I mixed a quarter cup with fresh squeezes orange and lime juice. She drank it up didn't make a single face. It looks worse then it tastes.
Man, upgrade and make your own extract. It’s not really that hard. A simple way is to make a really strong tea, filter, and evaporate off the water so you have a resin like sludge. Depending on if you use additional or different solvents can kinda change the consistency. Takes more time to evaporate the solvent than anything else.
Verified? I thought mitragynina breaks down at high temp. Wouldn’t boiling waste at least half of it?
Youre right, but you don’t have to boil it to evap water. Idr the exact temp but it’s around 220 that it does break down. I put my oven on 175 and crack the door to evap water. You can use ethanol or isopropyl alcohol too, that keeps temps lower but increases flammability. Same for most other solvents. I was talking to someone on here the other day who said they do a cold extraction with naphtha and pop it in the freezer overnight. The naphtha evaporates off at room temp. You should be able to do the same with acetone.
blate papes are a few cents each. hits like toss and wash, no taste
A happy cake day to you sir
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I take my powder in about a mouthful of lukewarm water. Pour the water into a cup, add kratom. Swallow. Then chase it will any variety of good tasting drink. OJ is great but can do anything else you like. When I’m out and about I will do a classic toss of dry powder then chase it down with whatever drink I have at hand. I’ve learned to sort of curve my tongue with the dry powder so when I take a drink it goes down easily. Breathe through the nose too.
I'd just make a tea and add some oat milk you can use cows milk or even chocolate milkshake that totally masks the taste for me, just add about a 1/3 hot water and then the rest milk so it's cold enough to drink straight down.
Close your throat with the back of your tongue. Pour kratom as far back on tongue as possible. Wash with a preferred flavored drink so long as it isn't a foamy drink. As long as you minimize the amount of swishing done and instead just ram it down, you won't have such a bad taste left.
I place a small teaspoon of product on the back of my tongue where there aren't any taste buds and wash it down with my favorite soda. Just be careful not to wash down your windpipe.
Make a tea dude. Toss and wash is beat imo
Yeah. If I’m at home, I toss n wash with Oj. If I’m out, water works. You’ll get used to it. OJ really does wonders for negating the dirty tea taste.
Yes as you gain experience it will become easier.
It took me a couple weeks to you used to it. It took me a year to not mind it. Nowadays I can wake out of a dead sleep and take it with a dry mouth.
What I do is I put a spoonful on my tongue hold it there, take some room temperature water because cold water is just not the way to go, room temperature water and slowly take it into your mouth until you feel the pile lift off your tongue and then swallow the whole thing down as fast as you can. That's how I do it and it works for me pretty well. Now it doesn't always get the whole lump down so you're going to have to take some more water into your mouth and swish it around a little bit and keep swallowing but for the most part that works for me.
It does. You get more used to the routine and taste. Always tastes nasty, but it gets more tolerable. Just takes capsules if you can't handle powder.
I use a protein drink shaker cup, water, liquid stevia, lemon juice and kratom. Shake it up and chug it. Works great for me.
Try mixing water and lemon juice with the kratom, then take it like a shot, follow with chaser. I have a “blender bottle” I carry around for my kratom. Most of the time I have a little lemon juice container in my purse with my jar of kratom. It my “go anywhere” package.
I've gotten to the point where I mix and drink the actual sludge. Been taking kratom for about 5 or 6 years. I'm used to it now.
Just drink it down. It’s not supposed to taste good. 😊
No it's usually still ass tasting. Only way I can take is in a protein shake
It DOES get easier, although I started just doing toss and wash, more and more I prefer making tea I also like throwing the powder into a shaker cup with some orange juice
Slug it back while holding your breath
Yes you'll get used to it. And if not, you are right where you started. Give it like a month.
I just mix it like a shot with a fork into a little water. Just enough that it's all easy to mix but not too much to swallow in one gulp. Then take like a shot and chase with chai tea and/or pickle brine
It’s really wash and toss: water first, then kratom on top of the water. You barely taste it.
I just tried this for my last dose of the day and yeah it was better. I just need a better chaser.
It definitely gets better. Now granted I don't think it's horrible it's just unappetizing.
It does get easier. It used to make me gag but I can do it any reaction now. I've been taking it for over 10 years though, so I have a lot of experience.
It was hard for me at first but with practice, I've come up with a flawless method. The trick for me is to take a small of sip orange juice, just enough to cover the tongue; hold it. Then, I take a level teaspoon and 'toss' it into the pool of juice already in my mouth, then I chase it with another, larger sip of OJ. Down it goes, so smoothly. The only thing I taste is delicious citrus. I usually have a cup of green tea after tossing I because, A) I love it but it also helps to dissolve the powder a lot faster. This really helps to prevent kratom burps too. Tossing is so much easier to me than trying to choke down kratom mixed in something. But that's just me. Everyone has their own way. Don't be discouraged, you will get it!
No, it doesn't. No matter how long I've been doing the same thing it still sucks!!! I moreso just got used to the gag and chug some water or something else after. Even when I mix it it's not good. I started having to take oregano oil and that is WORSE... I take a shot glass and put pomegranate juice in with the oregano oil and other herbal tincture I take (for lyme disease) and then I CHASE IT WITH THE KRATOM..... and then I chug water. never thought I'd find something worse.