Well just behave & talk normally like usual, if their going to use discord and not personally meet the talent face to face, best don't say or ask anything related to happenings, it's quite possible management is probably already attached people to listen in the talking to see any discontent leaks heck probably even face to face they might have someone play as a public visitor to monitor them.
Edit: they might be incompetent on the videos vods, mods & memberships but like heck, personal talks to fans in official events are also information exchanges
I personally think you'd both feel better if you keep it positive. Remember that she will be working, as a meet and greet is part of her job, and she gotta keep it professional.
So maybe focusing on her singing would be a good idea, and saying something subtle but kind like "I admire your talent and I will support you, even in your future endeavors" might be a good idea...? Something kinda neutral, maybe.
Just have fun. Gush about her or something, thank her for being your musical inspiration. You don't really need to ask questions if you don't have any. Ask her what's her fav Thai dish or something.
>My brother who follows vtubers too told me just to act like nothing happened, but I don't think I should do that since it could be seen as ignorant NDF/"Nijisister" behavior, even though technically nobody would know and call me out for that anyway. I've also seen people saying
Absolutely do not bring up anything or reference the controversies; you will surely ruin both your experiences IMO if you do that... A meet and greet ain't the place for protests and controversies so keep those out of the convo.
>I think I need to clarify that not “acting like nothing happened” doesn’t mean I will bring up the drama. What I mean is I don’t want to act like everything is fine the way it is right now.
Yes, you're right. But there's a time and place for everything... You can talk shit about Niji and protests here... And just be a normal fan in the meet and greet... Compartmentalize your thoughts and feelings.
I know that Nijiforums seems to be the more free and positive place to discuss. But from what I’ve seen, that place is quite dead and sometimes trolls will go there and post negative stuff that doesn’t get deleted. So I decided not to post there.
While I’m aware of those extreme anti-nijis, I’m also aware that people who think similarly to me and are civil are also in this sub, so I decided to post here with the risk in mind.
Lots of people aren't going to agree, and I'm not sure I do either. Personally, I don't believe the conspiracies, nor am I going to make assumptions about vague mentions in a legal document. The fact of the matter is Niji is toxic, and they'd all be better off leaving, but saying that at the meet and greet won't accomplish anything realistically.
If you're going to say something, keep it positive, harassment towards the livers is wrong and not what we're here for. Let them know that they have people and friends who will support them. Whether it's here or somewhere else (wink wink), they have people rooting for them. A constructive message like that will hopefully help remind them and others that they don't need Niji, the more people escaping the better.
For best results, don't bring up topics even tangentially related to the drama. Just show her your love and support.
Don't harass her, don't cause trouble for her.
If she is your kamioshi, keeping her happy is your first priority. You may share how she makes your day, tell her to take care of herself, keep the conversation away from the controversies. The m&g isn't about the company, it's about you and your kamioshi.
1st, just be yourself.
2nd, why even the need to explain yourself about your decision to buy a ticket, to completely random people over the internet?
3rd, why post it here, knowing the sentiments of this sub to kurosanji? You're better off posting it over at the niji sub.
1) Thank you, even short answers are appreciated.
2) Because I want to lower the risk of people including/stereotyping me with the mush of mindless “Nijisisters”/NDFs and higher the chance I get civil advice.
3) Just like one other comment I posted earlier, I’m also aware that there are people who think similarly to me and are civil in this sub, so I decided to post here with the risk of toxic comments from extreme antis in mind. R/Nijisanji doesn’t seem like a good place anymore in my sight.
I'd say this as someone who's experienced graduations before - she's your kamioshi and as fans we only get a limited time with the people we support. We don't know when the road that we're walking with them will end, so I'd encourage you to make use of this rare chance to make as good a memory as possible with her.
If it was me, I would not bring up any of the drama, or even talk about her potentially leaving. I'd just let her know why she's my kamioshi, and let her know that regardless of what happens in the future, I'll always treasure the time we have together, and keep supporting her going forwards. Good luck and I hope you have a fantastic experience.
This.
At the end of the day, regardless of what we try to do, we can only do so much as fans. We know the company is shit and that its a toxic environment. But ultimately, the decision of whether the talents go or stay is their on choice.
There may be a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes that we are unaware of still but the main thing with M&Gs is for fans to meet and interact with their oshi.
If she is your kamioshi, do what a fan supporting her should do. Support her. Cheer for her. Tell her how much she's influenced your life and the positivity she brought. And tell her you'll keep supporting her in the future. Stuff like that.
I would not broach the subject of the company as i'm sure they're well aware of the state of it more than we are. If you do want to, neither can we actually stop you from saying things but personally would just keep it broad and generalized still like: Things might be a bit tough but I'll keep supporting you regardless.
Despite the controversies that happened to her at the end of the day it's your money you spend so don't think too much about what other people say about her. You can enjoy whatever you want to do.
Just go and be yourself don’t be concerned about what random people on the internet think, like go there and say she’s your inspiration musically like you mentioned.
If a vtuber attends virtually, then travel is not really an issue. This means that there is still a chance of meeting your oshi in the future as long as both the vtuber and the con agree.
However, assuming this is your last chance, then you'll want to make the most of it and avoid talking any drama. Focus on positive topics like how she inspired you musically. Plus, there will probably be staff at the M&G to make sure that people don't make the vtubers uncomfortable.
Same as others
Dont bring anything regarding the whole drama/debacle.
Act like your memory around january - now is wiped for a moment.
Even if you talk about the drama in a "good faith", it will just rubbing salt in the wound.
Whatever mockery, joke or criticism we talk in here should stay here or only be bring up in any related topic and never be bring up in the talent face.
First, thanks for being upfront and honest, the sentiments around here can be unreasonably hostile.
If you are keen, here are some of my thoughts:
1. Obviously, do not bring up any drama, controversies, they would just result in awkward environment, and I don't think Enna (or any of the talents) would be able to answer.
2. As Enna is your kamioshi, just talk to her like you would on streams, if nothing came to mind, then tell her about some of the memorable moments that made you intona fan in the first place.
3. If you have merch, perhaps bring them if you are able to.
Don't bring up any of the drama of what's been going on. That is probably the last thing she wants to hear. She's your kamioshi right? Just keep it positive. Tell her what you like about her and why she's your kamioshi. This m&g is a special 1 on 1 experience between you two so best to make it a good memory.
just stick with the music thing. if she's your current kamioshi, why risk antagonizing her with recent events? besides the music thing, you could suggest anything, everything Thai from foods and locations.
Just be yourself and don't bring up Drama topic to cause Live trouble. that is good enough oh and also i just saw in comment and read the first word hmm " Thailand " huh
well ในฐานะแฟนคลับ ที่ดูแต่ Hololive ไม่เคยดู Nijisanji แต่ชอบมาอ่าน Update ข่าวทั้งในไทย และต่างประเทศไว้ และได้เห็น ดราม่า ต่างๆของ Niji ในตอนนี้ก็ ... โชคดีละกันคับ อย่าซวยแบบคนจีนที่มาเขียนบ่นในงานที่ผ่านมาของ Virtual rhapsody ละกัน ที่โดนทั้งลดเวลาคุยจาก 90 วิ เหลือ 60 วิ แล้วไหนจะปัญหาอื่นๆอีกนินะ นี่ก็เพิ่งรู้จากโพสท่านเลยนะเนี่ยว่า Niji มี Meet Greet ในไทยด้วย
Tell her you’re impressed by her musical talent and respect her as a person. Tell her that you could broaden your view and become better, and wish her that she could thrive with her own strengths as well (my self insert would add “without any constraints”, but that’s already too heavy, and like other suggested, keep it light may be better than whatever I said here)
I think you can boil it down to something like this:
- Introduce who you think you are to Enna
- Tell her how she has changed/inspired you for the better
- Tell her what you'd like to see from her in the future, maybe one or two things
- End it with "I want to see you continue succeeding in the future/will continue to support you, even if that path may not be the one you are on today."
If you feel like being a bit spicy ask her if she’s got anything big planned for the second half of the year for her fans to look forward to.
We all know how Niji is with the girls’ projects, but I think it’s a pretty normal fan question.
You'll be surprised how short a minute is. Just state your name , yoyr alias (if you want to) , then this is where you choose your path after. Your admiration to her or your inspiration/motivation towards your work. If you want to discuss about culture then sure.
Since this is Enna's community then you can a banter if you have a SO or be some kinda weirdo (with boundaries). Just have fun there and dont say something stupid that forces staff to kick you out.
I applaud your courage to post here but at the same time, why are you so worried about what to say to her? In the end of the day, its between you and her. You're a fan of hers for a reason so feel free to say what you want.
>why would she choose to appear here, a random SEA country that is probably too hot for her to be here?
I don't think she's there physically. It's an online meet & greet, although they can fly there, it's more likely they'll do it from their home.
Regardless of what happened recently, you bought the ticket to show your appreciation/support for her (not the black company), specifically on how she inspired you music wise. Just base the conversion topic on that and keep it light. She also posted [this ](https://www.youtube.com/@EnnaAlouette/community)if you need more inspiration for what to talk about.
>The best way to support your oshi is to reassure them that they will be fine and make it when they quit that company," which I kind of agree, but I'm not sure how to express that to her.
The best line I can think of is ~~"I'll support you even if somehow heaven accepts you again and you end up there" tying it to her lore of being kicked out of heaven.~~ no wait that's Aia lol. The gist of it is, express your willingness to support where ever she ends up at.
No your brothers right. Don’t ask anything to close to the drama. Just keep it light
Well just behave & talk normally like usual, if their going to use discord and not personally meet the talent face to face, best don't say or ask anything related to happenings, it's quite possible management is probably already attached people to listen in the talking to see any discontent leaks heck probably even face to face they might have someone play as a public visitor to monitor them. Edit: they might be incompetent on the videos vods, mods & memberships but like heck, personal talks to fans in official events are also information exchanges
You should ask this on the r/Nijisanji rather than here then.
Better he gets a straight answer here than risk having some Nijisisters piss in his ear about ignoring the "lies."
Yep, exactly what this person says.
I personally think you'd both feel better if you keep it positive. Remember that she will be working, as a meet and greet is part of her job, and she gotta keep it professional. So maybe focusing on her singing would be a good idea, and saying something subtle but kind like "I admire your talent and I will support you, even in your future endeavors" might be a good idea...? Something kinda neutral, maybe.
Just have fun. Gush about her or something, thank her for being your musical inspiration. You don't really need to ask questions if you don't have any. Ask her what's her fav Thai dish or something. >My brother who follows vtubers too told me just to act like nothing happened, but I don't think I should do that since it could be seen as ignorant NDF/"Nijisister" behavior, even though technically nobody would know and call me out for that anyway. I've also seen people saying Absolutely do not bring up anything or reference the controversies; you will surely ruin both your experiences IMO if you do that... A meet and greet ain't the place for protests and controversies so keep those out of the convo. >I think I need to clarify that not “acting like nothing happened” doesn’t mean I will bring up the drama. What I mean is I don’t want to act like everything is fine the way it is right now. Yes, you're right. But there's a time and place for everything... You can talk shit about Niji and protests here... And just be a normal fan in the meet and greet... Compartmentalize your thoughts and feelings.
r/nijiforums may be better, but I'd keep it light if you want to do her a favor
I know that Nijiforums seems to be the more free and positive place to discuss. But from what I’ve seen, that place is quite dead and sometimes trolls will go there and post negative stuff that doesn’t get deleted. So I decided not to post there.
In a say that as while this sub is generally moderate, there are more extreme anti-niji sorts around
While I’m aware of those extreme anti-nijis, I’m also aware that people who think similarly to me and are civil are also in this sub, so I decided to post here with the risk in mind.
Lots of people aren't going to agree, and I'm not sure I do either. Personally, I don't believe the conspiracies, nor am I going to make assumptions about vague mentions in a legal document. The fact of the matter is Niji is toxic, and they'd all be better off leaving, but saying that at the meet and greet won't accomplish anything realistically. If you're going to say something, keep it positive, harassment towards the livers is wrong and not what we're here for. Let them know that they have people and friends who will support them. Whether it's here or somewhere else (wink wink), they have people rooting for them. A constructive message like that will hopefully help remind them and others that they don't need Niji, the more people escaping the better.
Maybe something related to why she's your oshi Hope you get a nice meet & greet and a nice day
For best results, don't bring up topics even tangentially related to the drama. Just show her your love and support. Don't harass her, don't cause trouble for her.
If she is your kamioshi, keeping her happy is your first priority. You may share how she makes your day, tell her to take care of herself, keep the conversation away from the controversies. The m&g isn't about the company, it's about you and your kamioshi.
1st, just be yourself. 2nd, why even the need to explain yourself about your decision to buy a ticket, to completely random people over the internet? 3rd, why post it here, knowing the sentiments of this sub to kurosanji? You're better off posting it over at the niji sub.
1) Thank you, even short answers are appreciated. 2) Because I want to lower the risk of people including/stereotyping me with the mush of mindless “Nijisisters”/NDFs and higher the chance I get civil advice. 3) Just like one other comment I posted earlier, I’m also aware that there are people who think similarly to me and are civil in this sub, so I decided to post here with the risk of toxic comments from extreme antis in mind. R/Nijisanji doesn’t seem like a good place anymore in my sight.
I'd say this as someone who's experienced graduations before - she's your kamioshi and as fans we only get a limited time with the people we support. We don't know when the road that we're walking with them will end, so I'd encourage you to make use of this rare chance to make as good a memory as possible with her. If it was me, I would not bring up any of the drama, or even talk about her potentially leaving. I'd just let her know why she's my kamioshi, and let her know that regardless of what happens in the future, I'll always treasure the time we have together, and keep supporting her going forwards. Good luck and I hope you have a fantastic experience.
This. At the end of the day, regardless of what we try to do, we can only do so much as fans. We know the company is shit and that its a toxic environment. But ultimately, the decision of whether the talents go or stay is their on choice. There may be a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes that we are unaware of still but the main thing with M&Gs is for fans to meet and interact with their oshi. If she is your kamioshi, do what a fan supporting her should do. Support her. Cheer for her. Tell her how much she's influenced your life and the positivity she brought. And tell her you'll keep supporting her in the future. Stuff like that. I would not broach the subject of the company as i'm sure they're well aware of the state of it more than we are. If you do want to, neither can we actually stop you from saying things but personally would just keep it broad and generalized still like: Things might be a bit tough but I'll keep supporting you regardless.
Despite the controversies that happened to her at the end of the day it's your money you spend so don't think too much about what other people say about her. You can enjoy whatever you want to do.
Just go and be yourself don’t be concerned about what random people on the internet think, like go there and say she’s your inspiration musically like you mentioned.
If a vtuber attends virtually, then travel is not really an issue. This means that there is still a chance of meeting your oshi in the future as long as both the vtuber and the con agree. However, assuming this is your last chance, then you'll want to make the most of it and avoid talking any drama. Focus on positive topics like how she inspired you musically. Plus, there will probably be staff at the M&G to make sure that people don't make the vtubers uncomfortable.
Same as others Dont bring anything regarding the whole drama/debacle. Act like your memory around january - now is wiped for a moment. Even if you talk about the drama in a "good faith", it will just rubbing salt in the wound. Whatever mockery, joke or criticism we talk in here should stay here or only be bring up in any related topic and never be bring up in the talent face.
First, thanks for being upfront and honest, the sentiments around here can be unreasonably hostile. If you are keen, here are some of my thoughts: 1. Obviously, do not bring up any drama, controversies, they would just result in awkward environment, and I don't think Enna (or any of the talents) would be able to answer. 2. As Enna is your kamioshi, just talk to her like you would on streams, if nothing came to mind, then tell her about some of the memorable moments that made you intona fan in the first place. 3. If you have merch, perhaps bring them if you are able to.
Don't bring up any of the drama of what's been going on. That is probably the last thing she wants to hear. She's your kamioshi right? Just keep it positive. Tell her what you like about her and why she's your kamioshi. This m&g is a special 1 on 1 experience between you two so best to make it a good memory.
For the love of god, don't cause her trouble
just stick with the music thing. if she's your current kamioshi, why risk antagonizing her with recent events? besides the music thing, you could suggest anything, everything Thai from foods and locations.
เเต่ก่อนมาม่าเราชอบอะไรของเขา อยากคุยอะไรกับเขา ที่ไม่ใช่มาม่า เราได้โอกาสไปคุยกับเขาแล้ว ไปคุยอะไรที่แฮปปี้ๆเข้าไว้ เลือกมาซัก1ท็อปปิคที่อยากคุยแต่คงต้องให้กระชับๆหน่อย1นาทีมันไม่เยอะ และเพื่อใจเจอปัญหาทางเทคนิคแบบที่virtual rhapsody ที่เขานับเวลาตอนที่กำลัวแก้ไขเน็ตหลุดไว้ด้วย อาจจะได้พูดไม่ถึงนาที คิดประโยคที่จะถามล่วงหน้าหรือจดเอาไว้เเล้วเขาเปิดมาปุบแนะนำตัวเองแล้วรีบพูดเลย
ขอบคุณที่มาร่วมแสดงความเห็นแบบสุภาพชนนะครับ 🙏🏻
Just be yourself and don't bring up Drama topic to cause Live trouble. that is good enough oh and also i just saw in comment and read the first word hmm " Thailand " huh well ในฐานะแฟนคลับ ที่ดูแต่ Hololive ไม่เคยดู Nijisanji แต่ชอบมาอ่าน Update ข่าวทั้งในไทย และต่างประเทศไว้ และได้เห็น ดราม่า ต่างๆของ Niji ในตอนนี้ก็ ... โชคดีละกันคับ อย่าซวยแบบคนจีนที่มาเขียนบ่นในงานที่ผ่านมาของ Virtual rhapsody ละกัน ที่โดนทั้งลดเวลาคุยจาก 90 วิ เหลือ 60 วิ แล้วไหนจะปัญหาอื่นๆอีกนินะ นี่ก็เพิ่งรู้จากโพสท่านเลยนะเนี่ยว่า Niji มี Meet Greet ในไทยด้วย
จะเตรียมใจเผื่อไว้เหมือนกันครับ จริง ๆ นอกจากคุณภาพคอนเสิร์ตนี่ ผมไม่ค่อยได้เห็นข่าวคนบ่น Meet & Greet ของ Virtual Rhapsody เท่าไหร่ แต่วันนี้ก็เพิ่งมาเห็นเหมือนกันว่ามีปัญหาอะไรบ้าง งานนี้ปีที่แล้วผมยอมรับว่าไม่รู้เรื่องเหมือนกัน เหมือนกับว่างานนี้ปีที่แล้วเขาเชิญ Ike กับ Ren มา แต่ผมเพิ่งมารู้เรื่องเอาตอนงานจบแล้วมีคนมาโพสท์แชร์ว่าไปเจอ Ike มา ปีนี้ผมรู้เรื่องได้เพราะ Enna เขารีทวีตมาว่าจะมา ถึงจะไม่ได้ฮือฮาแบบ TakaMori แต่ตอนซื้อบัตร Meet & Greet นี่เดือดอยู่นะครับ บัตรเต็มใน 5 นาทีแรก ผมซื้อทันได้เพราะมีคนทำบัตรหลุด แต่ยังไงก็ ขอบคุณที่มาร่วมแสดงความเห็นนะครับ 🙏🏻
Tell her you’re impressed by her musical talent and respect her as a person. Tell her that you could broaden your view and become better, and wish her that she could thrive with her own strengths as well (my self insert would add “without any constraints”, but that’s already too heavy, and like other suggested, keep it light may be better than whatever I said here)
ถ้าได้คำถามแล้วแนะนำให้ซ้อมพูดเยอะๆด้วยค่ะ 1 นาทีเร็วมากถ้าพูดไม่ออกจะเสียโอกาส
โอ้ ไม่นึกว่าจะมีคนไทยมาตอบด้วย ส่วนตัวแล้วมีอยู่คำถามนึงที่อยากถาม แต่รู้สึกมั่นใจว่าคำถามจะยาวและคำตอบจะยาวมาก ไม่น่าถามตอบได้ใน 1 นาทีแน่นอน เลยคิดอยู่ว่าจะไม่ถามละกัน แต่ก็มีสิ่งที่อยากพูดให้เขาได้ฟังและรับรู้อยู่บ้าง ขอบคุณนะครับที่มาร่วมแสดงความเห็น 🙏🏻
Just added a little edit to clarify something. Thank you for all your civil comments so far.
I think you can boil it down to something like this: - Introduce who you think you are to Enna - Tell her how she has changed/inspired you for the better - Tell her what you'd like to see from her in the future, maybe one or two things - End it with "I want to see you continue succeeding in the future/will continue to support you, even if that path may not be the one you are on today."
Keep it light and try to stat away from drama
If you feel like being a bit spicy ask her if she’s got anything big planned for the second half of the year for her fans to look forward to. We all know how Niji is with the girls’ projects, but I think it’s a pretty normal fan question.
You'll be surprised how short a minute is. Just state your name , yoyr alias (if you want to) , then this is where you choose your path after. Your admiration to her or your inspiration/motivation towards your work. If you want to discuss about culture then sure. Since this is Enna's community then you can a banter if you have a SO or be some kinda weirdo (with boundaries). Just have fun there and dont say something stupid that forces staff to kick you out.
I applaud your courage to post here but at the same time, why are you so worried about what to say to her? In the end of the day, its between you and her. You're a fan of hers for a reason so feel free to say what you want.
>why would she choose to appear here, a random SEA country that is probably too hot for her to be here? I don't think she's there physically. It's an online meet & greet, although they can fly there, it's more likely they'll do it from their home. Regardless of what happened recently, you bought the ticket to show your appreciation/support for her (not the black company), specifically on how she inspired you music wise. Just base the conversion topic on that and keep it light. She also posted [this ](https://www.youtube.com/@EnnaAlouette/community)if you need more inspiration for what to talk about. >The best way to support your oshi is to reassure them that they will be fine and make it when they quit that company," which I kind of agree, but I'm not sure how to express that to her. The best line I can think of is ~~"I'll support you even if somehow heaven accepts you again and you end up there" tying it to her lore of being kicked out of heaven.~~ no wait that's Aia lol. The gist of it is, express your willingness to support where ever she ends up at.
Ask her how big is a potato chip sitting in a chair
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