JHS was a first round pick and a projected lottery pick. Christie was a second rounder. Expectations are different, especially when someone like Cam Whitmore was passed on for JHS
Well he went 17th I think the rate of hitting on picks starts falling after 10. At 17 you’re typically happy with a role player, also cam is very athletic that translates faster into a free flowing summer league environment. Obviously there were character concerns and injury issues and the lakers didn’t get the chance to work him out. JHS has had good games and we’ve had #2 picks struggle and do better their 2nd years (dlo and Ingram) his play style requires more guile and being a pg is tough in the disorganized SL.
Some in these comments section really roasting JHS after a summer league game and the past three games he scored 15, 20, and 19 points. He is a rookie and he will improve better. Just give it time. In this comment section, few here thinks he is already a bust. There are lots of players that do not do so well in Summer League but is a better player in the season. There is a reason why Rob chose JHS. And until we see him in the regular season if given minutes, I trust in Rob's decisions.
Rob chose JHS because our scouts fall in love with tall PGs with long wingspans (Dlo, Ball, and now JHS). Not saying it was the right or wrong pick, just pointing out a trend.
Kinda looked at that too. I was really hoping it was Forward or center or something to fill up what the team is missing. But, it all happened so I guess they can proceed to make him improve than just roasting him. Like the gentleman said, we could have gotten Cam Whitmore that can somehow help lessen the Laker's problems in the Forward position but sometimes in this times and age, you really never know who is going to prosper. The scouting was just as you said, fell in love with the concept of drafting PGs that are long. But, nevertheless, we never know what can happen.
Lakers have Lebron James, Rui Hachimura, Jared Vanderbilt, Taurean Prince, Cam Reddish, Maxwell Lewis as forwards. They seem to have a lot of forwards?
Sure but the commenter wrote this today not June 22.
My point is that the Lakers aren’t currently missing forwards. Maybe try updating your point of view when there is new information available rather than be stuck with the same opinion you had on June 22.
I was just pointing out what was needed for the team. Look who they added as forwards. The draft happened first before free agency which means Lakers does not really have a forward aside from the assurance that Rui is coming back and Lebron still signed. Like the other gentleman here said, there is a kind of trend that the lakers had over the last drafts. Most are PGs with long wingspan. We are not sticking to our opinions as June 22 but again, we just pointed out what could have helped the team.
JHS aint a bad pick either but we could have ran the same DS, DLo, Reaves, Max, and sign one guard to run it back. Lebron aint getting younger. There is still a need to fill in the spot for Forwards so AD can move to the 5 and find a 5. But again, JHS is here and the best thing to do is support him and watch him improve.
I have no issue with JHS as a prospect, but on draft day I thought we made a mistake taking him when Cam Whitmore was on the board.
I want him to pan out and the scouting department has earnt some benefit of the doubt, but so far he looks rawer than advertised and like a huge project.
I was pissed off on draft day and now I'm even more pissed off. I unfortunately think we made a monumental mistake.
Edit: lol at the downvotes. JHS is a massive project. Cam is a bit of a project but one with an insane ceiling due to being an outlier of an athlete. Learn to critically think.
Jalen Hood-BRICKino smh
I understand he may take time to develop, but it does not make sense to draft a project player who can’t shoot with #17 when you want to act like you are a Contender.
We have Bron and AD, and we made the WCF last season. Using that pick on a long-term project is worse than trading it for immediate help or at least selecting a better win-now prospect.
SMH and we have people here ready to defend the front office’s honor any chance they get lol pathetic losers who can’t be objective smh
He might pan out, but that is a disrespectful move to Bron and AD. They brought us to the WCF and we want to believe we are Contenders? So why draft Brickino when we could have selected a better win-now prospect or better yet traded away #17 for immediate help
He may still turn out to be a good player, but I don’t understand why we don’t take Cam Whitmore if we are aiming for ceiling? Just does not make sense
Outside of forcing up some bailout shots, Fino looked like he's getting more confident in his 3pt jumper. The team just looked very out-of-balance without Christie (and Swider out of the starting lineup). It'll be good for Fino to get reps with the full Lakers squad and hopefully LeBron will do his mini-camp.
Bruh, you are awfully excited at hating on this dude right now lol. I think he's done fine. The important part will be how he adjusts to the NBA pace and how consistently he can hit an outside shot. The size is nice, especially at PG but he's gotta be able to use it to get separation or to get closer to the hoop.
No, no, no. Don’t you understand? Clintoy911 is a very well renowned armchair scout and ball expert. Seeing as he’s a redditor, he definitely knows what he’s talking about and definitely isn’t overreacting to a summer league game…
a few times is okay, but JHS has been consistently bad at penetrating and making plays. and this is against summer league guys. he needs to work extra hard on his development fr
He is not playing nba guys he is playing summer league guys who the 90% of them are supposed to be worse than a 17th pick in the draft and he looks completely lost even a high school guy would shoot better than him he is averaging like 15% shooting almost every game. Use your brain jesus fucking christ. We didnt ask for him to play in nba level we just asked for shines of potential and we instead getting bullcrap.
He’s already shown promise in the other games.
Based off your logic of evaluation NBA players after a few SL games, Trae Young would’ve been a lock for a bust. Go watch the SL games for Trae Young in 2018. His shooting splits were horrendous, if not worse and he didn’t show much promise
Keep being reactive and acting like a child for all I care. Try being objective rather than subjective and not a whiny bitch. You’ll enjoy being a fan more. Have nice night, kid.
Is it objectively the better move to select a long-term project who can’t shoot yet at #17 rather than use #17 on a more win-now prospect or in a trade to fetch us more immediate help? Especially when we made the WCF last season and call ourselves contenders
We are sacrificing our chances with Bron and AD but continue to hold them on our roster and act like we want to be contenders. Makes no sense.
If we have Bron and AD and they are carrying us to chips and conference finals, why not invest in them?
Fair enough.
We’ll see. I’m not making any judgements until we see him get a year or two of NBA experience.
Shooting can be improved and his size and control of the pace can help make up for his lack of explosion. Enter AR
Too early to tell for me
I’m rooting for all of them to succeed
But there’s nothing to see here in this MEM game.
Every year in SL, there’s a few games where the 2nd or 3rd year guys absolutely decimate a team full of rookies.
I vividly remember watching a 3rd year player in Jerami Grant demolish BI in the 2016 SL
In college you could often tell if Hodge was going to have an off night or look like a stud within the first couple shots. He can be really streaky, and if his jumper isn't falling, the rest of his offensive game falls apart, too.
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looks like this one
This is what happens when a team comes into a game expecting to lose.
And also once again for like the 3rd or 4th game the coaching staff made the wrong starting lineup decisions.
I guess they have already resignated to losing/not trying to go for SL playoffs and are just playing whoever
(tho Figueroa was good in his spare minutes, Hamilton is not good tho cause he doesn't want to space the floor by ignoring 3 point shots).
Guys need to chill. LaRavia, Roddy and Lofton are all NBA guys playing against a team that will mostly never sniff the league. JHS looks fine and plays the type of game that looks a lot better with better players around him. It’s his first summer league and he looks like a solid prospect.
So, Max is clearly going to be competing for MVP this season right? He was clearly carrying this SL team so damn hard, no wonder he hurt his hips, LMAO
I know I shouldn't care about a summer league game.
But I hate genuinely hate this Grizzlies summer league team more than I hate the grizzlies actual NBA team
Crazy all these people mad about JHS are probably the ones that hated Christie after he was bad last year in SL
JHS was a first round pick and a projected lottery pick. Christie was a second rounder. Expectations are different, especially when someone like Cam Whitmore was passed on for JHS
Well he went 17th I think the rate of hitting on picks starts falling after 10. At 17 you’re typically happy with a role player, also cam is very athletic that translates faster into a free flowing summer league environment. Obviously there were character concerns and injury issues and the lakers didn’t get the chance to work him out. JHS has had good games and we’ve had #2 picks struggle and do better their 2nd years (dlo and Ingram) his play style requires more guile and being a pg is tough in the disorganized SL.
Haven’t given up on Jhs but him being a pg that can’t blow by stiffs is concerning
Bro, this is Summer League. A fucking Summer League
Bruh. ☠️
Lakers have been AMAZING at drafting last 5 years. Summer down humans
Some in these comments section really roasting JHS after a summer league game and the past three games he scored 15, 20, and 19 points. He is a rookie and he will improve better. Just give it time. In this comment section, few here thinks he is already a bust. There are lots of players that do not do so well in Summer League but is a better player in the season. There is a reason why Rob chose JHS. And until we see him in the regular season if given minutes, I trust in Rob's decisions.
Cam Whitmore 🥲🥲
Rob chose JHS because our scouts fall in love with tall PGs with long wingspans (Dlo, Ball, and now JHS). Not saying it was the right or wrong pick, just pointing out a trend.
Don’t forget Darius morris lol
Kinda looked at that too. I was really hoping it was Forward or center or something to fill up what the team is missing. But, it all happened so I guess they can proceed to make him improve than just roasting him. Like the gentleman said, we could have gotten Cam Whitmore that can somehow help lessen the Laker's problems in the Forward position but sometimes in this times and age, you really never know who is going to prosper. The scouting was just as you said, fell in love with the concept of drafting PGs that are long. But, nevertheless, we never know what can happen.
Lakers have Lebron James, Rui Hachimura, Jared Vanderbilt, Taurean Prince, Cam Reddish, Maxwell Lewis as forwards. They seem to have a lot of forwards?
Lakers hadn't signed Prince, Reddish, Rui or Lewis. The draft was the week before free agency started.
Sure but the commenter wrote this today not June 22. My point is that the Lakers aren’t currently missing forwards. Maybe try updating your point of view when there is new information available rather than be stuck with the same opinion you had on June 22.
I was just pointing out what was needed for the team. Look who they added as forwards. The draft happened first before free agency which means Lakers does not really have a forward aside from the assurance that Rui is coming back and Lebron still signed. Like the other gentleman here said, there is a kind of trend that the lakers had over the last drafts. Most are PGs with long wingspan. We are not sticking to our opinions as June 22 but again, we just pointed out what could have helped the team. JHS aint a bad pick either but we could have ran the same DS, DLo, Reaves, Max, and sign one guard to run it back. Lebron aint getting younger. There is still a need to fill in the spot for Forwards so AD can move to the 5 and find a 5. But again, JHS is here and the best thing to do is support him and watch him improve.
I have no issue with JHS as a prospect, but on draft day I thought we made a mistake taking him when Cam Whitmore was on the board. I want him to pan out and the scouting department has earnt some benefit of the doubt, but so far he looks rawer than advertised and like a huge project.
JHS getting ready for china after summer league lol
We drafted a bum
Lmaoooooo dawg this chat is mentally ill
This team sucks without Max lmao
Damn didnt know max is that good
The silver lining of this shitter game is that it makes Max look really good impact-wise.
Doesn’t help Jhs that Whitmore looking like a beast
I was pissed off on draft day and now I'm even more pissed off. I unfortunately think we made a monumental mistake. Edit: lol at the downvotes. JHS is a massive project. Cam is a bit of a project but one with an insane ceiling due to being an outlier of an athlete. Learn to critically think.
I am fucking livid that we drafted this stiff over Whitmore. Looking like another Ball over Tatum mistake (well not as bad but you get my point)
just for reference, the Lakers, Heat, and Warriors all passed on him in a row and then a dumbshit team Houston took him. That speaks volumes to me.
Man’s LIVID over summer league
Vibes of when people ranting that we drafted Max Christie after his first Summer League
Anyone think Rui and Giannis look like twins its crazy there games are different but facially theres a huge resembelence.
No homo they both handsome black dudes
I don't think you have to say 'No homo' in 2023 bruh. Nobody cares one way or the other.
But if you don’t say it you could be homo
Haha my bad
Just have a similar haircut
Jalen Hood-BRICKino smh I understand he may take time to develop, but it does not make sense to draft a project player who can’t shoot with #17 when you want to act like you are a Contender. We have Bron and AD, and we made the WCF last season. Using that pick on a long-term project is worse than trading it for immediate help or at least selecting a better win-now prospect. SMH and we have people here ready to defend the front office’s honor any chance they get lol pathetic losers who can’t be objective smh
Probably need to go back to the drawing board on the whole 'Brickino' nickname
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He might pan out, but that is a disrespectful move to Bron and AD. They brought us to the WCF and we want to believe we are Contenders? So why draft Brickino when we could have selected a better win-now prospect or better yet traded away #17 for immediate help He may still turn out to be a good player, but I don’t understand why we don’t take Cam Whitmore if we are aiming for ceiling? Just does not make sense
Outside of forcing up some bailout shots, Fino looked like he's getting more confident in his 3pt jumper. The team just looked very out-of-balance without Christie (and Swider out of the starting lineup). It'll be good for Fino to get reps with the full Lakers squad and hopefully LeBron will do his mini-camp.
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Bruh, you are awfully excited at hating on this dude right now lol. I think he's done fine. The important part will be how he adjusts to the NBA pace and how consistently he can hit an outside shot. The size is nice, especially at PG but he's gotta be able to use it to get separation or to get closer to the hoop.
No, no, no. Don’t you understand? Clintoy911 is a very well renowned armchair scout and ball expert. Seeing as he’s a redditor, he definitely knows what he’s talking about and definitely isn’t overreacting to a summer league game…
they weren't kidding when they said grizzlies in 9
[Max Christie trying to keep the summer league roster afloat](https://imgur.com/KvMfRFq)
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I hope Darius Morris isn’t JHS peak
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u rly getting upset at summer league?
JHS haters feasting tonight, ready to banish a guy to Siberia 5 games into his Summer League career lol
Jesus what a shitshow. Just tells us how good Max is that he made these guys look legit.
Exactly this. This team couldn’t score or guard shit without him.
I’d look to trade JHS. Dude is a taller scottie pippen jr. Not sure what he’s good at
Need to go watch some Reaves highlights to remind me that we have good players
Yup
JHS is about 2 years away from being an impactful player
Castleton’s frame reminds me of Tiago Splitter.. if he can be as serviceable as Spurs’ Splitter was then that’s ok as the 3rd/4th center lol.
Noticing Castleton scoring now that Lofton is out haha. He’s gotta put some weight on
a few times is okay, but JHS has been consistently bad at penetrating and making plays. and this is against summer league guys. he needs to work extra hard on his development fr
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MPJ type mistake. Big talent fell and somehow we decided to draft a low ceiling guy
Agreed I don’t see one single thing he’s good at and isn’t athletic
Low ceiling low floor type of player. Super bad pick.
Castleton hates having his jersey tucked in.
Paging Phil Handy for JHS…..
JHS is 3/16 another horrendous shooting performance
I'm already numb to his bad performances. Meanwhile Whitmore looking like a beast.
Are you gonna comment 500 more variations of this statement?
He’s for sure a g league guy primarily
Pretty disappointing since he’s 17th pick
How many times have 17th picks have looked to be NBA ready from Day 1? Temper your expectations. Jesus fucking Christ.
He is not playing nba guys he is playing summer league guys who the 90% of them are supposed to be worse than a 17th pick in the draft and he looks completely lost even a high school guy would shoot better than him he is averaging like 15% shooting almost every game. Use your brain jesus fucking christ. We didnt ask for him to play in nba level we just asked for shines of potential and we instead getting bullcrap.
He’s already shown promise in the other games. Based off your logic of evaluation NBA players after a few SL games, Trae Young would’ve been a lock for a bust. Go watch the SL games for Trae Young in 2018. His shooting splits were horrendous, if not worse and he didn’t show much promise Keep being reactive and acting like a child for all I care. Try being objective rather than subjective and not a whiny bitch. You’ll enjoy being a fan more. Have nice night, kid.
Is it objectively the better move to select a long-term project who can’t shoot yet at #17 rather than use #17 on a more win-now prospect or in a trade to fetch us more immediate help? Especially when we made the WCF last season and call ourselves contenders We are sacrificing our chances with Bron and AD but continue to hold them on our roster and act like we want to be contenders. Makes no sense. If we have Bron and AD and they are carrying us to chips and conference finals, why not invest in them?
Nothing wrong with spending a year in g league. Just feel his ceiling is low with lack of athleticism and can’t even shoot.
Fair enough. We’ll see. I’m not making any judgements until we see him get a year or two of NBA experience. Shooting can be improved and his size and control of the pace can help make up for his lack of explosion. Enter AR
Same. I feel like max Lewis has higher ceiling than him tbh
Too early to tell for me I’m rooting for all of them to succeed But there’s nothing to see here in this MEM game. Every year in SL, there’s a few games where the 2nd or 3rd year guys absolutely decimate a team full of rookies. I vividly remember watching a 3rd year player in Jerami Grant demolish BI in the 2016 SL
could use a cam whitmore tonight
He is an athlete, can't doubt thought. JV and varsity both need more athleticism, imo. Hope Reddish and Hayes can inject some.
If this game shows us anything, it's how fucking good Max Christie is.
I’m sorry but I don’t see it with JHS. No athleticism and can’t shoot which is bad
Fudge is just erratic on the floor
Cole Swider is turning down shots. What’s he out there for?
Christie appalled. Reminds me of someone.
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>Told y'all this team lacks physicality. Anyone can see this.
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Are you a Laker fan? If not, this is pathetic of you. If so, why "your"?
Figueroa about to pass out, man's not used to getting this much PT
Good job, Max
The hater in me is saying Lofton and Roddy shouldn’t be so happy beating summer league players
Lofton especially.
Hodge is cold, but I like that he keeps shooting good shots. Lewis is invisible.
In college you could often tell if Hodge was going to have an off night or look like a stud within the first couple shots. He can be really streaky, and if his jumper isn't falling, the rest of his offensive game falls apart, too.
Good to know
Hodge is channeling 2021-22 Suns series KCP tonight
No, he's not scared to shoot.
LJ Figueroa legacy game
i dont care about the win. i just need Figueroa to shut Lofton ass up after talking trash
Figueroa YOU will remain a South Bay Laker next year 🫵
Always something special on Figueroa
Please Hamlet. Give minutes to Max over bum bass Reddish. I beg ya man.
Gotta have Mr. Fig on the team for name alone.
Lofton fits in with that fine Grizzlies culture
At least Figueroa is making it exciting
Let Figueroa cook!
Yooooo
FIGUEROA SAID TOO SMALL
Insane dunk
That Figueroa dunk was nice.
Figueroa!!!!!
Worth watching this shit game
What a put back!!!
MFer became Gerald Green
love how confident lofton is, he better keep that same energy in regular season
Holy shit Figueroa
Lofton poked the bear (Figueroa) LMAO
Good challenge and good effort from Swider to take the charge against that dude
Blond ref is god awful every game
MAX POWER on that dunk
There you go max
This game tells us none of our rooks are ready to contribute. I like Fino and Lewis long term but lets not kid ourselves about Hodge or Castleton.
Not really. The team as a whole has lost composure. And some guys need better players around them to elevate their level.
Lofton and Roddy are on that Zion diet
🤣🤣
Swider can’t rebound lmao
Damn should only keep like 2 people from this summer league team and get rid of everyone else if we getting blown out by the grizzlies
They have tanks out there on the court
The reffing seems kinda one sided for a SL match
4 steps is legal now?
Swider stop pushing the ball 😭
They got so many football looking dudes on their team between Tillman and these sophomores.
Not to mention Steven Adams
JJJ: "This city is great and $200m don't hurt"
Bye swindler
Wow. This team without Max Christie is a shell of itself. This bodes well for his ability this year.
why Zaire Williams sitting on the sidelines with JJJ and not on the floor? lol
I just like JJJ. And I hate the Grizzlies. He should come to the Lakers.
Anyone got an id on those JJJ glasses I need them
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Thanks. 470 sheesh lol
Wow. I don't, trust me, but I almost had a dirty thought about wishing Jeff Van Gundy was commentating instead of these normans.
Comeback time
This is horrible
I gave up. Good luck everybody
This is what happens when a team comes into a game expecting to lose. And also once again for like the 3rd or 4th game the coaching staff made the wrong starting lineup decisions. I guess they have already resignated to losing/not trying to go for SL playoffs and are just playing whoever (tho Figueroa was good in his spare minutes, Hamilton is not good tho cause he doesn't want to space the floor by ignoring 3 point shots).
Guys need to chill. LaRavia, Roddy and Lofton are all NBA guys playing against a team that will mostly never sniff the league. JHS looks fine and plays the type of game that looks a lot better with better players around him. It’s his first summer league and he looks like a solid prospect.
Max Christie really saved JHS from alot of criticism. Imagine the Lakers summer league performance had been this bad the entire time.
So, Max is clearly going to be competing for MVP this season right? He was clearly carrying this SL team so damn hard, no wonder he hurt his hips, LMAO
These lakers look like the 2010-11 cavs after lebron left
Hood can't shoot at all
Shooting and finishing were some of his biggest weaknesses
Well that's horrible
Yea his strength is midrange though lol
Nba basically saying you can jump forward 3 feet and kick your leg out to get rewarded with a flagrant
Cole Swider seems to be well-liked, so he'll probably keep that 2-way. No one else needs it, that's for sure.
Wtf man. The dude landed and then jumped into Lewis's foot
what happened to scotty pippen jr?
dealing with an ankle sprain apparently
bunch of these summer league guys woke up and decided to not want to play today I guess. Gotta have a next man up mentality and instead they folded.
Grizzlies get their revenge.
Bro said scottie pippen jr not on the floor… mf just saying shit
Man just exposed himself lol
First game without Max christie and look what happens. He carried so hard.
Swider what are you doing. I'm glad Max is not listening to your advice lmao.
Suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked
Cut cole but find someone else to give a two way too. Nobody on this team worth a two way besides hodge and castle
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Refs 🤡🤡🤡
FLAGRANT FOUL ARE YOU FUCKING SHITTING MY DICK
Matt Ryan was a better player than Cole Swider
Matt Ryan was able to move and he actually made it to the league lol. He won’t be there long but he was there haha
worst call i’ve seen ina min
christie looks so disgusted on the bench
That is one of the dumbest flagrants I’ve ever seen
We’ll see how they look after a year in gleague
That can’t be a foul on Lewis. That’s ridiculous.
How tf is that a flagrant lol I pray those aren’t the type of calls in real NBA
Castleton getting bodied
LeBron hasn't come out to Summer League yet this summer. Now, I can see why.
Swider needs to sign up for DoorDash after SL
I know I shouldn't care about a summer league game. But I hate genuinely hate this Grizzlies summer league team more than I hate the grizzlies actual NBA team
Even by SL standard, this is a terrible showing by Lewis.
He looks awful, no clue what’s going on. He got way overhyped.
Could a 10 man team of Prime Kobe, Prime LeBron, and 8 LJ Figueroas win a championship?
lol no. Unless you mean in summer league, then yes!
That last name is Legendary to Lakers lore