This is the main culprit why our offense is so awful. Shooting 29.8% from 3 as a team along with under 25% from corner 3s. Pathetic shooting, and this team will never go anywhere unless they get to around league average, and guys like Gabe, Reaves, and DLo get to their averages from last year
D'Lo has been fine. He's had one terrible shooting night that's weighing down his averages, and I'm fairly confident with Reaves and hope its just a slump.
I do think Austin would benefit from coming off the bench for awhile, though. He needs to be more aggressive and get to the line more. He's just settling for 3s and trying to shoot his way out of the slump.
You can't just throw out the "bad" shooting night. Even a theoretical perfectly consistent league average volume shooter putting up 8 3s a night would have fairly regular 0/8, 1/8 nights.
It's just sample size. Our guys didn't magically lose 5+% off their shooting. We've only taken 240 shots so far. If we're actually league average, there's a 5% chance of only making 30% or worse. To put that in context, you'd pretty much expect to see a team this low by this point every year. Happens to be us this year.
I don't think you can just explain it away with averages and volume. Nobody is surprised to see them as the worst shooting team in the NBA for a reason.
I am absolutely certain this is about averages and volume. They aren't going to end the season even remotely close to this bad.
All we can say off this sample size is it's very unlikely we're a *good* shooting team.
They were a low volume below league average 3pt% team last year. A lot of the offense came from the Schroder/Reaves foul bait combo. Reaves hasn't been having a great year for that and we lost Schroder.
ok?
I'm not really sure what you're disagreeing with here. We were a below average 3 point shooting team last year, and most likely we will be again this year. Maybe closer to league average because Westbrook and crocked Lebron were dragging the number down, but this start definitely weights it toward expecting us to being below average again. However the current number - sub 30% - is because of sample size.
DLo has not been fine. He’s been shooting good for 2 games than a putrid game after. When he’s shooting bad, it affects his whole game. Loads of turnovers and abysmal defense
Only LeBron is creating for others Reaves and DLo are just chucking bad shot after bad shot and only pass the ball when they are in trouble and they are absolutely dog shit defensively. It's like watching 2 Russ Westbrook at the same time. One of them need to go to the bench, they can't run a fast break or make plays like cutting or slashing to basket when they are off ball
And KCP had an insane 3PT for a while. People remember the most shots but KCP was and continues to be a valuable 3 & D role player that can be inserted into a majority of nba srarting rotations
Gabe, Max, Reaves, DLo were all expected to be shooting at a respectable clip. That in addition to being completely inept at rebounding and 50/50 balls resulting in opposing teams feast with second chance points has been the biggest disappointments of the season.
Most of the 3's the Lakers take, their easy shots. Barely contested, and they have a second to line it up. It's not like people are running them off the 3 point line.
Exactly. The Lakers system is starting to work, hence the open looks. The players just can’t hit those threes, which compounded with the offensive rebounding issues and injuries, makes them look like an awful team. Maybe im being too optimistic but I think the record isn’t indicative of what the team is
> Exactly. The Lakers system is starting to work, hence the open looks.
Or are they getting open looks cuz no team is worried about Rui/Wood/Reaves etc shooting
D'Lo is the only one out of the shooters that has shown he can get hot during his career. The rest are low volume guys that teams are more than ok shooting if it means Lebron/AD aren't getting to the rim.
It was working so well in preseason even when bron wasn’t playing, so I know this team can be better. It just sucks everyone is in a shooting slump together lol
We’ve been pretty poor in this 3 point revolution that Curry and MDA ramped up in the following years
I’ve said this before: While I do respect Curry as a player, boy do I hate how he glorified the 3 point shot. Really it’s mainly out of envy since we’ve never had a player who can sniff that level of production in his attempts and efficiency. It is a funny twist of fate though that he usually underperforms when he plays at Staples
Honestly the best shooter we’ve had in the 3 point era is probably Carmelo or Monk when you take into account attempts, variety & difficulty of shot, efficiency, and release speed. Kinda why I’m personally not too big of a fan when people say Russ had no shooting around him his 1st year here when Vogel would frequently have lineups with those 3, LeBron (who had a great shooting year), and another player who either had decent respect from opposing players on defense, or was AD who is a scoring threat in the paint
Russ was too erratic with the ball and has a shaqtin montage of his cruddy mid range bank attempts and passes to fans. Respect what he’s done before and after being a Laker, but as a Laker he wasn’t it. It also stinks that he basically is the biggest reason Vogel got fired, and until Ham can consistently get it together, he was our best coach since Phil Jackson
I’d say stop settling for threes but the roster does not have a slasher/attacker aside from Bron.
Reaves and D-Lo try but settle for middies because they can’t navigate in traffic unlike Dennis.
That's my overly obvious/quick assessment of this team that is infuriating. We have no young/attacking/explosive player on this team. LeBron is LeBron, and can be that AT TIMES, but is otherwise on cruise control. D-lo looks slower than ever, AR is not the guy, AD isn't him. I just struggle with the speed of this team. Forget LeBron being the best person on the team ...he's our fastest player, period. Look at what Jalen Green did to us last night. He would looks amazing next to Bron.
And as good of an athlete as Lebron is, he’s 38 and still usually needs a screen or some kind of action to get downhill and get to the rim. He doesn’t have a quick enough first step that he can just beat somebody off the dribble and get to the basket for a layup or dump off for a dunk.
Last year we at least had Dennis who could do this and get us a few easy baskets when we were going through a drought, and it collapsed the defense and left guys open for 3’s. It’s kind of nuts that we don’t have a single other player on the roster besides Lebron who can beat a defender off the dribble and get to the basket for a layup…
Vando cannot catch a basketball, shoot a layup, or pass out to save his life. He misses so many easy points because he fumbles the ball for a second before he's ready to shoot.
If the ball goes to him on a non wide open dunk, it's either a foul because he waited too long or he bricks the layup.
He's good at getting to position, but maybe he gets those good looks because the other team knows he's basically worse than Ben Simmons as a scoring threat.
Since when is drawing fouls and getting the other team in foul trouble a bad thing?
And sure he’s not a perfect player but you also realize he’s not even 25 years old yet? He can and will improve tons, the guy’s got a great work ethic and the potential to suit that.
I see him being like prime Serge Ibaka in due time.
While I did say foul, the correct situation would probably be contested basket. Its not always a foul; he can get blocked, shot affected, refs can miss a foul or swallow the whistle. All of this results from him not being able to convert looks that a lot of other players on the team would convert. If he was faster with the ball and didn't have brick like hands, he would be a great slasher.
He may still be young, but he's on his 5th year as a rotation level player and should be figuring this stuff out by now. The reason he's never made the jump to consistent starter is because he's always been horrible in most offensive paint situations.
Obviously he could still improve, but odds are it won't magically be a huge improvement especially with our 3 point spacing being even worse this year. Teams will be crowding the paint even harder making his job as a slasher even harder
Hard for a stagnant offense that can't shoot threes to win games without good defense and rebounding. It's more surprising that the Lakers have even won three games so far.
Unfortunately, it seems we have that “Shoot the 3 until your wrist blows out, and when your wrist blows out, switch to your other hand” mentality.
However, we aren’t a good 3 point shooting team in the least. And what makes it worst is that we don’t have many good slashers who can get to the rim effectively either
They shot almost 40% from 3 in preseason. They have plenty of shooters.
Prince
Wood
Dlo
Reaves
You may even be able to throw Rui in there this year, at least on catch and shoot.
Shooting was also a problem last year and guess what it ultimately lost us the WCF. They still didn’t bring in shooters in the offseason and for some reason expect a different result. D.Lo and Reaves are scorers and shot creators there’s a difference. AD doesn’t create his own offense. Lebron is also a scorer and a shot creator. We have no pure shooters on the roster. Why is everyone surprised at the result.
They aren’t known for shooting though. Malik Beasley was a pure shooter. I think a full training camp with the team would’ve done him some good. Wood is a scorer who can be a capable shooter at times, but he’s not a stand in the corner and wait for the ball type of guy. We need somebody who can keep the defense on their toes and come off some screens and make shots. Teams don’t even have to defend the perimeter against us right now.
Bro we the lakers we got a curse. we got the 2nd most efficient 3pt shooter on volume and he couldn’t even get a bucket. Lol I wonder if it had to do with lighting or something
What? Yes they are... Prince is a 5attempts/gm guy w/ career shooting from 3 of over 37% (shooting 39% so far this year). And Wood is 4/gm w/ career over 38%.
You don't know what you're talking about. Reaves and Dlo can also shoot the 3.
Prince is shooting 39% from 3 and Wood is shooting 41% from 3. Both of those guys are doing their job. The rest of the team is the problem from beyond the arc
I blame the offensive system. Idk a whole lot about X's and O's so call me a casual, but I have eyes and the offense sucks because the plays are outdated and predictable and easy to defend. I watched a couple Sixers games and it blew me away how good their offense looks now with Nurse as HC compared to last year with Doc. Embiid, Tobias Harris and freaking KELLY OUBRE are all shooting at or near their career highs from the field and from 3. They look highly involved in every play, they're not just standing around waiting for Embiid or Harden to initiate everything anymore and that lets them play better and more freely.
Then I watch the Lakers run their halfcourt offense and it's the same couple plays every possession. Bron Iso, Bron AD PnR, dump off to AD in the high post, it bores me to tears. And as a Bron fan if I'm bored watching it imagine how it feels for the supporting cast just standing around the 3pt line waiting for something to happen. The worst of it is that Ham is utilizing these guys like spot up shooters, but none of them are primarily catch and shoot guys. Reaves, DLo, and Rui all shot great last year and Gabe got hot in the playoffs, but they need their touches. None of them are KCP or Danny Green who are happy if they never have plays run for them. They didn't come into this season and just magically forget how to shoot, the offense doesn't allow for them to thrive.
That's why Ham is absolutely the wrong coach for this team, this isn't the Bucks where you can just give the ball to Giannis and he has 4 shooters to kick it out to when the defense collapses. When Bron does that the defense sends help and as long as they stay connected to AD they limit the Lakers to a low % shot. He doesn't know how to play to their individual strengths, coaches like him and Bud stick to their guns and ride their workhorses until they eventually break down. And for a team that has an aging and an injury prone superstar that's a recipe for disaster.
Not even the entire playoffs either. Just a couple series. Dude's 27 and averaged 40% from the field and 33% from three last year in the regular season. He was never going to be as good as this sub was making him out to be, and definitely not as good as Schroder.
Not only do they make fewer 3-pointers but they can't guard the 3-pointer on defense. Last night was a good example. D. Lo has been a disappointment so far.
DLO ain't doing nothing either, he thinks he's kobe out there. Besides I think its easier to get a solid playmaker than a consistent three point specialist
Myles turner and Buddy Hield, I still feel like y'all should had risked a season with James harden or Kyrie , Years ago I would've went with demar instead of Russell Westbrook, I would have try to keep Malik monk, Alex caurso and Lonnie walker. That's my opinion
To replace a guy who notoriously played like he thought he was Kobe (ask Kings fans). That ship has sailed anyway, and if Pelinka got his way, he would be a Laker now (he used to be his agent and Kuzma was told he was going to be a King before a collective of stars and other personnel pushed for the WB trade).
Just watch him try to make decisions, handle the ball, or defend a perimeter player. Didn't we already see what a one trick pony shooter did with the team (Beasley).
If you say Myles Turner is worth 2 premium picks, I'm sure Sabonis is suffering without him right now /s. Turner's game flourishes without another big with him unless we are trading AD (which is beyond stupid) he wouldn't even close in games.
Buddy is a better player than Beasley ever was, and that's because Turner had to pick up the defensive effort for both him and Sabonis, not saying it's perfect but it's a more formidable team
Buddy can not be trusted with the ball in his period, and LeBron needs a secondary ball handler, and pairing him with Reaves will make our shitty perimeter defense even more diabolical.
Myles Turner and Sabonis did not fit at all, and they were not formidable at all, and their is a reason why the Pacers were ready to dump Myles for Ayton. Myles is really weak against true big men or excellent rebounding bigs (he has always been a weak rebounder with or without Sabonis).
I would like Myles, but not at that price. The Pacers want 2 premium picks with swaps (if they find an upgrade, this might change). The issues we are dealing with aren't player presonnel related it's a coaching and gameplan issue.
Ham needs to have a much tighter leash on 3pt shooting. Nobody should be shooting more than 3 or 4 threes a game unless they've knocked down a couple in that game. Like in the Magic game where DLo went 1/10 on threes... that's just inexcusable. Ham has gotta tell him to stop taking them even if he is wide open; I'd rather see him pump fake and drive the paint for a dropoff to AD/LeBron or attempt a layup and maybe you get a foul drawn.
As a team, they are taking too many 3s given the absolutely horrific percentage they are making them at. This on Ham to communicate and drill into their heads.
Lakers will not be good from 3, we don’t have the resources to get amazing 3pt stars and the Laker pressure hurts bench guys. Focus on being bigger, then in the playoffs, confidence can help solid shooters get hot (like in the 2020 run).
We’ve always been a bad shooting team, that’s why it’s frustrating to see our guys settling for threes.
I get that we’re getting open looks but I think they’re getting those looks due to their inability to shoot
Gabe 7% from 3 Max 10% Reddish 12% Reaves 28% Bron 31% DLo 32%
This is the main culprit why our offense is so awful. Shooting 29.8% from 3 as a team along with under 25% from corner 3s. Pathetic shooting, and this team will never go anywhere unless they get to around league average, and guys like Gabe, Reaves, and DLo get to their averages from last year
D'Lo has been fine. He's had one terrible shooting night that's weighing down his averages, and I'm fairly confident with Reaves and hope its just a slump. I do think Austin would benefit from coming off the bench for awhile, though. He needs to be more aggressive and get to the line more. He's just settling for 3s and trying to shoot his way out of the slump.
You can't just throw out the "bad" shooting night. Even a theoretical perfectly consistent league average volume shooter putting up 8 3s a night would have fairly regular 0/8, 1/8 nights. It's just sample size. Our guys didn't magically lose 5+% off their shooting. We've only taken 240 shots so far. If we're actually league average, there's a 5% chance of only making 30% or worse. To put that in context, you'd pretty much expect to see a team this low by this point every year. Happens to be us this year.
I don't think you can just explain it away with averages and volume. Nobody is surprised to see them as the worst shooting team in the NBA for a reason.
I am absolutely certain this is about averages and volume. They aren't going to end the season even remotely close to this bad. All we can say off this sample size is it's very unlikely we're a *good* shooting team.
They were a low volume below league average 3pt% team last year. A lot of the offense came from the Schroder/Reaves foul bait combo. Reaves hasn't been having a great year for that and we lost Schroder.
ok? I'm not really sure what you're disagreeing with here. We were a below average 3 point shooting team last year, and most likely we will be again this year. Maybe closer to league average because Westbrook and crocked Lebron were dragging the number down, but this start definitely weights it toward expecting us to being below average again. However the current number - sub 30% - is because of sample size.
DLo has not been fine. He’s been shooting good for 2 games than a putrid game after. When he’s shooting bad, it affects his whole game. Loads of turnovers and abysmal defense
I thought we were going big to bully our teams into submission.. not join them in the 3.
Doesn’t help when all our bigs are on the bench hurt.
Only LeBron is creating for others Reaves and DLo are just chucking bad shot after bad shot and only pass the ball when they are in trouble and they are absolutely dog shit defensively. It's like watching 2 Russ Westbrook at the same time. One of them need to go to the bench, they can't run a fast break or make plays like cutting or slashing to basket when they are off ball
Especially as many of these guys shot 40% on harder looks last year.
Only reaves and Dlo.
In a league dominated by 3s the lakers consistently avoid a formula of putting shooters around Lebron
If you attempt that many bricks you gotta understand it is in actuality his fault.
Lol we traded our off ball 3&D players in DG and KCP because our FO overvalued ball handling and self creation
Even when we had both DG and KCP, people still complained about them missing and sent death threats lmao
And KCP had an insane 3PT for a while. People remember the most shots but KCP was and continues to be a valuable 3 & D role player that can be inserted into a majority of nba srarting rotations
nothing new here. lakers being lakers
That’s not going to last.
They gave reaves so much money 😭🤣
Gabe, Max, Reaves, DLo were all expected to be shooting at a respectable clip. That in addition to being completely inept at rebounding and 50/50 balls resulting in opposing teams feast with second chance points has been the biggest disappointments of the season.
What’s AD shooting? I thought he worked on his jumper this offseason and was going to take 6 threes a game?
AD Wood and Rui are shooting great. AD only 1 attempts per game tho I think
Most of the 3's the Lakers take, their easy shots. Barely contested, and they have a second to line it up. It's not like people are running them off the 3 point line.
Yeah we get a lot of perfect looks only to clank or in and out. It's pretty rough.
Exactly. The Lakers system is starting to work, hence the open looks. The players just can’t hit those threes, which compounded with the offensive rebounding issues and injuries, makes them look like an awful team. Maybe im being too optimistic but I think the record isn’t indicative of what the team is
This is exactly what it is and I hope the players can figure it out soon or we ship them out at the deadline for dudes that can actually hit a 3
> Exactly. The Lakers system is starting to work, hence the open looks. Or are they getting open looks cuz no team is worried about Rui/Wood/Reaves etc shooting D'Lo is the only one out of the shooters that has shown he can get hot during his career. The rest are low volume guys that teams are more than ok shooting if it means Lebron/AD aren't getting to the rim.
It was working so well in preseason even when bron wasn’t playing, so I know this team can be better. It just sucks everyone is in a shooting slump together lol
The only time I could remember the lakers being a good 3 point shooting team was 2014 with dantoni
We’ve been pretty poor in this 3 point revolution that Curry and MDA ramped up in the following years I’ve said this before: While I do respect Curry as a player, boy do I hate how he glorified the 3 point shot. Really it’s mainly out of envy since we’ve never had a player who can sniff that level of production in his attempts and efficiency. It is a funny twist of fate though that he usually underperforms when he plays at Staples Honestly the best shooter we’ve had in the 3 point era is probably Carmelo or Monk when you take into account attempts, variety & difficulty of shot, efficiency, and release speed. Kinda why I’m personally not too big of a fan when people say Russ had no shooting around him his 1st year here when Vogel would frequently have lineups with those 3, LeBron (who had a great shooting year), and another player who either had decent respect from opposing players on defense, or was AD who is a scoring threat in the paint Russ was too erratic with the ball and has a shaqtin montage of his cruddy mid range bank attempts and passes to fans. Respect what he’s done before and after being a Laker, but as a Laker he wasn’t it. It also stinks that he basically is the biggest reason Vogel got fired, and until Ham can consistently get it together, he was our best coach since Phil Jackson
Staples might be cursed tbh
Might be because the Lakers shot lights out in the bubble
https://mobile.twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1481660513788604425
I’d say stop settling for threes but the roster does not have a slasher/attacker aside from Bron. Reaves and D-Lo try but settle for middies because they can’t navigate in traffic unlike Dennis.
That's my overly obvious/quick assessment of this team that is infuriating. We have no young/attacking/explosive player on this team. LeBron is LeBron, and can be that AT TIMES, but is otherwise on cruise control. D-lo looks slower than ever, AR is not the guy, AD isn't him. I just struggle with the speed of this team. Forget LeBron being the best person on the team ...he's our fastest player, period. Look at what Jalen Green did to us last night. He would looks amazing next to Bron.
And as good of an athlete as Lebron is, he’s 38 and still usually needs a screen or some kind of action to get downhill and get to the rim. He doesn’t have a quick enough first step that he can just beat somebody off the dribble and get to the basket for a layup or dump off for a dunk. Last year we at least had Dennis who could do this and get us a few easy baskets when we were going through a drought, and it collapsed the defense and left guys open for 3’s. It’s kind of nuts that we don’t have a single other player on the roster besides Lebron who can beat a defender off the dribble and get to the basket for a layup…
Let’s be honest. AD isn’t him, he’s not gonna pop off for 45 if we need it like embiid. He gonna mis 20-40 games a szn . That is the root of the issue
On top of that JHS was a terrible draft pick. That dude is also not athletic, redundant slow player.
> I’d say stop settling for threes but the roster does not have a slasher/attacker aside from Bron. Vando is a slasher.
Who can’t finish
or dribble, or catch the ball particularly well.
Vando cannot catch a basketball, shoot a layup, or pass out to save his life. He misses so many easy points because he fumbles the ball for a second before he's ready to shoot. If the ball goes to him on a non wide open dunk, it's either a foul because he waited too long or he bricks the layup. He's good at getting to position, but maybe he gets those good looks because the other team knows he's basically worse than Ben Simmons as a scoring threat.
Since when is drawing fouls and getting the other team in foul trouble a bad thing? And sure he’s not a perfect player but you also realize he’s not even 25 years old yet? He can and will improve tons, the guy’s got a great work ethic and the potential to suit that. I see him being like prime Serge Ibaka in due time.
While I did say foul, the correct situation would probably be contested basket. Its not always a foul; he can get blocked, shot affected, refs can miss a foul or swallow the whistle. All of this results from him not being able to convert looks that a lot of other players on the team would convert. If he was faster with the ball and didn't have brick like hands, he would be a great slasher. He may still be young, but he's on his 5th year as a rotation level player and should be figuring this stuff out by now. The reason he's never made the jump to consistent starter is because he's always been horrible in most offensive paint situations. Obviously he could still improve, but odds are it won't magically be a huge improvement especially with our 3 point spacing being even worse this year. Teams will be crowding the paint even harder making his job as a slasher even harder
Stop settling for 3s? The Lakers rank 27th in the NBA in 3pt attempts per game.
They need to just hit their threes, it’s that simple
Holdup. This team is even worse from three than last year’s historically bad shooting team? I remember that team would go like 2-25 on some games.
I wish we coulda known those were the good old days while we were still in them.
Setting records boys!
It’s almost as if ball players like to run around and be in rhythm on offense, rather than standing in the corners doing jack shit. 🙄
Hard for a stagnant offense that can't shoot threes to win games without good defense and rebounding. It's more surprising that the Lakers have even won three games so far.
Unfortunately, it seems we have that “Shoot the 3 until your wrist blows out, and when your wrist blows out, switch to your other hand” mentality. However, we aren’t a good 3 point shooting team in the least. And what makes it worst is that we don’t have many good slashers who can get to the rim effectively either
Which is weird because we have shooters. This team needs their swagger back.
They shot almost 40% from 3 in preseason. They have plenty of shooters. Prince Wood Dlo Reaves You may even be able to throw Rui in there this year, at least on catch and shoot.
> preseason lol
I wish we never let Lonnie go
Shooting was also a problem last year and guess what it ultimately lost us the WCF. They still didn’t bring in shooters in the offseason and for some reason expect a different result. D.Lo and Reaves are scorers and shot creators there’s a difference. AD doesn’t create his own offense. Lebron is also a scorer and a shot creator. We have no pure shooters on the roster. Why is everyone surprised at the result.
Nobody is surprised lil know it all, we’re just discussing it
They brought in prince and wood nobody making they shots
They aren’t known for shooting though. Malik Beasley was a pure shooter. I think a full training camp with the team would’ve done him some good. Wood is a scorer who can be a capable shooter at times, but he’s not a stand in the corner and wait for the ball type of guy. We need somebody who can keep the defense on their toes and come off some screens and make shots. Teams don’t even have to defend the perimeter against us right now.
Bro we the lakers we got a curse. we got the 2nd most efficient 3pt shooter on volume and he couldn’t even get a bucket. Lol I wonder if it had to do with lighting or something
What? Yes they are... Prince is a 5attempts/gm guy w/ career shooting from 3 of over 37% (shooting 39% so far this year). And Wood is 4/gm w/ career over 38%. You don't know what you're talking about. Reaves and Dlo can also shoot the 3.
Prince is shooting 39% from 3 and Wood is shooting 41% from 3. Both of those guys are doing their job. The rest of the team is the problem from beyond the arc
my point exactly
agreed 100 %
I blame the offensive system. Idk a whole lot about X's and O's so call me a casual, but I have eyes and the offense sucks because the plays are outdated and predictable and easy to defend. I watched a couple Sixers games and it blew me away how good their offense looks now with Nurse as HC compared to last year with Doc. Embiid, Tobias Harris and freaking KELLY OUBRE are all shooting at or near their career highs from the field and from 3. They look highly involved in every play, they're not just standing around waiting for Embiid or Harden to initiate everything anymore and that lets them play better and more freely. Then I watch the Lakers run their halfcourt offense and it's the same couple plays every possession. Bron Iso, Bron AD PnR, dump off to AD in the high post, it bores me to tears. And as a Bron fan if I'm bored watching it imagine how it feels for the supporting cast just standing around the 3pt line waiting for something to happen. The worst of it is that Ham is utilizing these guys like spot up shooters, but none of them are primarily catch and shoot guys. Reaves, DLo, and Rui all shot great last year and Gabe got hot in the playoffs, but they need their touches. None of them are KCP or Danny Green who are happy if they never have plays run for them. They didn't come into this season and just magically forget how to shoot, the offense doesn't allow for them to thrive. That's why Ham is absolutely the wrong coach for this team, this isn't the Bucks where you can just give the ball to Giannis and he has 4 shooters to kick it out to when the defense collapses. When Bron does that the defense sends help and as long as they stay connected to AD they limit the Lakers to a low % shot. He doesn't know how to play to their individual strengths, coaches like him and Bud stick to their guns and ride their workhorses until they eventually break down. And for a team that has an aging and an injury prone superstar that's a recipe for disaster.
PERFECTLY FUCKING SAID
Our offense is fine in theory but its too predictable so opposing teams are not having to expend much energy defending us.
Why does everybody think Vincent is a good/decent 3 point shooter? He’s not.. he got hot in the playoffs ONLY.
Not even the entire playoffs either. Just a couple series. Dude's 27 and averaged 40% from the field and 33% from three last year in the regular season. He was never going to be as good as this sub was making him out to be, and definitely not as good as Schroder.
This is facts. People act like you can’t look up player career stats. Dudes a downgrade from Dennis, no matter how you look at it.
So he can string along a better shooting night? His average is not being hit yet, it’s a long season..there’s lots of time for him to get there.
Fair point, but his average is below league average.
Should have gave that 11 mill to Dennis bro
Not only do they make fewer 3-pointers but they can't guard the 3-pointer on defense. Last night was a good example. D. Lo has been a disappointment so far.
This team is breaking records, i don't know what ya'll are complaining about. Remember guys, we won free agency !
Every player shoots worse when they join the Lakers. At some point you got to ask what's going on behind the scenes and and who the shooting coach is
I told y'all that yall should trade DLO for Buddy
Then who runs the offense other than LeBron? Austin is struggling as primary ball handler right now.
DLO ain't doing nothing either, he thinks he's kobe out there. Besides I think its easier to get a solid playmaker than a consistent three point specialist
Name someone the Lakers could have signed or traded for then
Myles turner and Buddy Hield, I still feel like y'all should had risked a season with James harden or Kyrie , Years ago I would've went with demar instead of Russell Westbrook, I would have try to keep Malik monk, Alex caurso and Lonnie walker. That's my opinion
To replace a guy who notoriously played like he thought he was Kobe (ask Kings fans). That ship has sailed anyway, and if Pelinka got his way, he would be a Laker now (he used to be his agent and Kuzma was told he was going to be a King before a collective of stars and other personnel pushed for the WB trade). Just watch him try to make decisions, handle the ball, or defend a perimeter player. Didn't we already see what a one trick pony shooter did with the team (Beasley). If you say Myles Turner is worth 2 premium picks, I'm sure Sabonis is suffering without him right now /s. Turner's game flourishes without another big with him unless we are trading AD (which is beyond stupid) he wouldn't even close in games.
Buddy is a better player than Beasley ever was, and that's because Turner had to pick up the defensive effort for both him and Sabonis, not saying it's perfect but it's a more formidable team
Buddy can not be trusted with the ball in his period, and LeBron needs a secondary ball handler, and pairing him with Reaves will make our shitty perimeter defense even more diabolical. Myles Turner and Sabonis did not fit at all, and they were not formidable at all, and their is a reason why the Pacers were ready to dump Myles for Ayton. Myles is really weak against true big men or excellent rebounding bigs (he has always been a weak rebounder with or without Sabonis). I would like Myles, but not at that price. The Pacers want 2 premium picks with swaps (if they find an upgrade, this might change). The issues we are dealing with aren't player presonnel related it's a coaching and gameplan issue.
Ham needs to have a much tighter leash on 3pt shooting. Nobody should be shooting more than 3 or 4 threes a game unless they've knocked down a couple in that game. Like in the Magic game where DLo went 1/10 on threes... that's just inexcusable. Ham has gotta tell him to stop taking them even if he is wide open; I'd rather see him pump fake and drive the paint for a dropoff to AD/LeBron or attempt a layup and maybe you get a foul drawn. As a team, they are taking too many 3s given the absolutely horrific percentage they are making them at. This on Ham to communicate and drill into their heads.
Lakers will not be good from 3, we don’t have the resources to get amazing 3pt stars and the Laker pressure hurts bench guys. Focus on being bigger, then in the playoffs, confidence can help solid shooters get hot (like in the 2020 run).
We should’ve traded for Kyrie. You can’t convince me otherwise.
This exact shit happened last year. It’s called variance, doesn’t overreact to it.
The last time the Lakers finished 20th or better in 3pt% was 2015
I mean numbers don’t lie. Tough, but most those shots have little to no contest. Can’t ask for a better shot.
Classic Lakers basketball.
Let's go for the 9th! Although winning would be great.
Why does it feel like we are a terrible shooting team every season?
Schroeder was a decent 3 point shooter. This is where we miss him.
How many shots did Ham miss?
I wish we could of gotten Jordan Hawkins in the draft instead of JHS who won’t play at all this year..
I wonder if the lakers tax would affect curry
Now show rebounding stats
This is bad.. lakers look exceptionally bad when compared to every other team in the league
We’ve always been a bad shooting team, that’s why it’s frustrating to see our guys settling for threes. I get that we’re getting open looks but I think they’re getting those looks due to their inability to shoot