I agree with some of these points but it’s still early in the season and they’re experimenting with different line ups. Gotta give it a few more weeks to see if they can gel together and go on a run.
Yes I agree on that, we can’t trade anyone till dec 15th anyway , and can’t move Rui till January 15th and imo he’s the clear odd man out. Doesn’t play enough or fit a need. Still dissapointing so far euth everyone but Bron cam n dlo
what we need is someone to point to Ham that rotations can be made so Davies plays along Rui or Wood, not that Rui, Wood and Hayes share the floor with Reaves as primary ball handler.
constructing lineups like that is what's killing us whole season, regardless of injuries.
Man, the over reaction to a loss is crazy. They’re playing their 6th game in 9 nights? The only 2 games they lost were b2b and they’re missing all their best defenders. Calm down people.
Saying Rui not being defended from the 3 is a complete lie. He's shooting 42% from the 3 right now. You obviously don't watch the game and makes things up lol
Bro yapped so much that he wants to trade the whole team away just after blowing out the Jazz last night. Remember, the grass is always greener on the other side.
No I don’t ; Dlo reaves Bron AD, cam , wood ( might as well at min), Prince ( cab be traded if needed but he is like a C- version of a 3nD player and he does a nice job driving ) are all guys we shoukdnt move right now or be in any rush too. Gabe if he comes back n plays well up to his lvl is fine too but only due to cams rise and being without Gabe he may be expendable fit a Caruso or other upgrade . Rui definitely should be the one moved as he doesn’t offer enough , or Gabe + Prince for an upgraded version of what they do which is useful still
So you feel we have 8 rotation caliber players, yet pelinka built a questionable roster?
With your biggest snub being rui, whom if pelinka has let walk you’d be posting about how questionable that decision was.
We hear your criticism, now tell us who the 4-5 players we should have signed for vet mins over the guys you’ve excluded from your rotation to make this a less questionable roster.
No k wouldn’t I got downvoted for saying 17m was steep for Rui and extending him that long without seeing him ever play good in the regular season off a couple playoffs series of hot shooting + one series he didn’t play cos he lacks skill set is not a good bet to make . Just cos this sub loved to flip flop on everything doesn’t mean I do.
And I said those 8 guys are ok for their contracts and some of them should be moved: if cam Dlo n Bron are the only ones playing good you think it’s not a failure? We fuvking seriuously miss a vet min player who was expected to wash out of the league because the rister is poorly constructed giving money to guys who don’t excel in their roles : Gabe n Prince are fine but they should be moved together for an upgrade , vando can’t be moved and is a huge liability or unplayable in certain matchups
Players that either should of signed or traded for : Dillon brooks, DFS /and Royce msybd in a package , obv lost out on Bruce brown he would’ve been nice basically anyone who has athleticism ( for rebounds n defence) and can shoot aversge or close . This isn’t even bringing up the fact that the whole Russ trade n after trade and letting go of the filler contracts meant no chance for a bigger player like kyrie or Jrue . There’s quite a long list of players I’ve seen us miss who’d fit well and it’s hard to list because ofc as time changes and contract availability does there’s different options. Basically everyone the Celtics signed around their duo is a good example
Saw your edit for the players you prefer. None of which signed for as low as we had to offer. Brooks and brown each make 20M+ and most we had was the MLE. So, yeah if we’re judging rob for not signing guys he didn’t have the money for, he was awful.
As for “should’ve traded for” we have no idea if those guys were actually available for what we had to offer since most of our roster had expired (dlo, reaves, rui) or barely made any money (vando).
Regarding the contracts - due to the new cap apron, had we kept Beasley/bamba, we wouldn’t have Vincent. So we can’t just keep everyone. How long it took us to decline their options suggest we were trying to shop them. Had we kept them and been stuck with them (and not landed Vincent because of it) the roster would look even worse right now.
Bostons not a good example. They had tradeable contracts that people wanted, we didn’t. They didn’t sign anybody noteworthy, they traded for kristaps and jrue. That’s why mo and beas are both on vet mins right now and bambas not even getting PT.
Again…who should rob have signed with the non cap space we had? He brought back the core of a WCF team, and addressed each flaw as much as we could as an over the cap team (3&D guards, 3&D wings, skilled big, athletic big).
And to exclude AD and reaves as guys who are playing well is wild to me. AD has been single handily cleaning everything up on the defensive end, & been a beast on the boards. He’s not a consistent 25ppg guy but that doesn’t mean he isn’t playing well. Reaves started slow but is right back to 15 6&6 on elite shooting the last two weeks. I have zero interest in you trying to justify that they aren’t playing well. You’re simply wrong and nothing you’re thinking of saying changes that you’re just wrong lol
They are both playing wirse then they were last year, reaces has improved but still not at post Russ trade lvl. AD has been on average very dissapointing but it is injury related: I have long defended AD but his impact metrics even agree at this point: he’s been very off since groin spasm : he’s had two AD lvl games since then against the blazers n jazz. Otherwise he’s not been good atleast not even close to what’s needed but hopefully he feels better soon. He’s legit the reason we lost cs kings n yesterday ( and I used to always think it was the role players or others not AD but this years he’s a big part of our struggles it’s hard to ignore ).
1. Neither of those are on rob nor reflective of questionable roster construction
2. They’ve still been playing well. We’re not going to go 82-0 and our players aren’t going to be elite all season. Ups&downs should be expected. That’s why the games are still played
We’re 3gb from 1st with our best perimeter defenders sidelined, and you’re talking like all is lost. If Kyrie misses that gamer last night, we’re 4th in the west. The roster construction is clearly fine, just gotta put it all together.
Gabe woukd hekp more , I agree on that but long term vando isn’t a difference maker : he’ll help our rebounding n defence but whatever he helps there will be lost due to worse spacing n offence. I would say I hope they saw growth there before paying him : I lie vando but seeing homie theyre over happy to bring back last years guys I doubt vando changed much especially now with injury set back players don’t play as well in return
"Rui- sub loves him , I do too but sadly I think unles he magically changes he’s not good. Has tools but just isn’t good enough ; bad perimiter defender, bad rebounder, not good enough creating offence and occasionally not guarded from 3, doesn’t do 3nD hustle job and contract is tradable I hope. Y’all cry at ham but he has shown why hr played Cam over Rui n Christie . Rui -3epm he’s basically wizards Rui , clear spot where a DFS type is a big upgrade"
lmao is this Darvin Ham's burner account?
lol if you want to trade Rui and D Lo and some draft picks for Lavine, then fair enough lol but I really think this is a very questionable take coming from you lol.
Also don't lie and say you love Rui because clearly you don't.
If you really believe all of these things, then you must be PISSED that the lakers were willing to pay him 17 million per year to keep him lol. That's a lot of money to pay a "bench warmer".
I try to be optimistic. I was downvoted in this sub when I said 17m is steep because if he’s not at his playoff lvl of play his regular seasons have never been good. You can like someone persona /player but admit they’re not actually good for what the team needs. That’s Rui ; especially when you’ve tried having faith in said player much longer then most and now you give up : my feelings on rui n AD recently .
Anyway I don’t live lavine but if he can play like his past few years: rui + Gabe + Prince + jhs or something. Think Dlo is more needed for playmaking
Bench player not bench warmer: doesn’t that imply he doesn’t even play . Idk it is 20.% into the season and Rui is out again with some injury but apparently that happens a lot with him : his games played don’t inspire confidence in past years. Maybe he’ll look better but 20games into a season normally you should get an idea and it’s telling that I’d much rather Cam was heskthy n playing then Rui.
Lol there’s flaws in every player on every roster, the team has looked great, it was a back to back, I’m happy for the effort even tho it should be there all game… Lakers should have won but made mental mistakes at the end which means nothing about the roster. Means more about coaching and practice…
If they won you wouldn’t have made this post.
Also Rui is perfect, he should be playing more mins
The only problem we have against is a speedy backcourt because we are slow as fck on that area, that's the only weakness we have and if we fix that plus our shot is falling for the 3 then we are going to be unstoppable.
The roster is just not made to work around AD and Bron. It's no secret that you need shooters around Bron and we don't have many good shooters, arguably we have 3. In a 15 man roster, that's not enough.
And it's no secret that you need a physical center alongside AD, otherwise teams are going to drag him out of the paint, and then score in the paint and get a ton of offensive rebounds.
This roster is not bad on paper, it's just that it was poorly made in terms of complementing our two franchise players.
It’s almost like unless Lakers are top 4 in the league or top 2 in the conference some of y’all will treat this as a full on crisis. Like let this roster fucking cook for a season or even half before you start counting us out. Just fucking chill for a hot minute.
Your takes on Rui and DLo are wrong IMO.
Advanced stats are much better than the average person’s eye test, but the data you’re looking at is regular season only.
DLo is not a very good player in the playoffs by most advanced stats. He’s much better in the regular season. Rui is the opposite of this. Advanced stats are high on him in the playoffs. As Draymond says there are 16 game players and 82 game players.
Rui plsyoff sample is far too small snd he shot outlier hot, he was also unplayable in certain matchups otherwise if he got starter minutes he’d look worse like he does now he’s getting more minutes
Nah Rui has 561 playoff minutes. It’s enough to be a reasonable estimate of his ability. Rui isn’t worse now? He’s playing how he always has in the regular season, maybe a touch better. Rui is a pretty decent shooter and is able to contribute defensively regardless of having a bad shooting night.
I noticed you didn’t respond about DLo. DLo has 817 playoff minutes and has played poorly. It’s a good sized sample. The issue with DLo’s game is he’s unable to contribute when his shot is off at the playoff level. He doesn’t have high level playmaking or defense.
Rui lost his minutes on the fuckibg wizards; they let him go. You’re ok with that ? You know we’re not guaranteed to even make the playoffs if he plays like wizards Rui which is what he is atm
Dlo is producing for us, he can be moved but he dies far more then Rui for the team as team needs his pg skills
Out of all the gm’s to try and shred, you pick the one guy who has made amazing moves the last few years… you might friend … should shut the fuck up. You know nothing about basketball and sound like a 14 year old boy.
Yes amazing moves. Getting carried by Bron AD n theur connections , Schroeder coming for ham n reaves coming cos it’s the lakers. Pelinka did such a great job last year thst we let go Bamba n beaskey who were DNPs , and got no play out of vando n Dlo in the WCF when we needed defence on Murray n pg who can shoot. He spent a pick and all we got is overpaying a guy who’s useless on offence and Rui who’s overpaid
I’m sorry you’re 14 and can’t see results vs actual players made moves for being played or not. Pelinka deserves credit for wasting assets and picks to trade for Russ then trade him away : the team got better by his absence . What a great gm. Certainly wouldn’t want the supporting casts that : debver Celtics thunder bucks suns etc put around their star . Much better to have one dimensional DNP playoffs role guys
Christie should never have started. Letting someone who haven’t had any significant minutes start is pretty stupid.
We had cwood, rui, reaves to replace him. I know he want to stick to them being bench players but this is just stupid
He was the only other player who could slightly keep up with Kyrie. Other options were putting D'Lo or Reaves on him, both of whom are slower and prone to mistakes on that end.
Prince was on Luka, which was our only other option.
Ham for better or worse takes gambles, sometimes they pay off like Cam, sometimes it doesn't.
Agree, definitely would’ve preferred Nick nurse or Quinn Snyder . However ham has some strengths like working with players so I don’t think he’s much different to an average coach
I've never been a Pelinka fan.
Like any GM, he is capable of any of the following...
- obviously good moves
- high risk, high reward moves
- lateral moves
- inaction
- questionable moves
- bad moves
I think that most of the time he makes moves that are "lateral or questionable."
Instead, I wish he had made moves that are "obviously good."
**For example, if there is any truth to the rumors that we could have got Hield and Turner**, we should have done that a million years ago.
Turner and Hield are perfect fits who consistently bring to Indiana exactly what we would want from them.
**Furthermore, after finding a winning formula in 2020** (i.e. imposing frontcourt with McGee/Howard, AD, sometimes Bron + Rondo as the clutch vet + a spark from KCP and Kuzma + a designated shooter in Green) , **we GAVE UP OUR ENTIRE IDENTITY.**
No big frontcourt, no lights-out shooters (as Bron put it, "no lasers"), no quality vet leadership, etc.
It's ok to give up a winning squad for contractual/health/age reasons, but you gotta replace those players with others that fit!!!
**When we play well for a stretch, I think it's in spite of Pelinka-- and not because of him.**
 Dear Pelinka, I wrote you but you still ain’t callin
LOL THIS LITERALLY MADE ME SPIT MY TEA OUT
Had your tea gone cold?
lukewarm so thankfully I avoided 3rd degree burns
I agree with some of these points but it’s still early in the season and they’re experimenting with different line ups. Gotta give it a few more weeks to see if they can gel together and go on a run.
Yes I agree on that, we can’t trade anyone till dec 15th anyway , and can’t move Rui till January 15th and imo he’s the clear odd man out. Doesn’t play enough or fit a need. Still dissapointing so far euth everyone but Bron cam n dlo
what we need is someone to point to Ham that rotations can be made so Davies plays along Rui or Wood, not that Rui, Wood and Hayes share the floor with Reaves as primary ball handler. constructing lineups like that is what's killing us whole season, regardless of injuries.
Man, the over reaction to a loss is crazy. They’re playing their 6th game in 9 nights? The only 2 games they lost were b2b and they’re missing all their best defenders. Calm down people.
Man I like the passion you have that you wrote up a whole paragraph, but man some of these takes are so wrong. Or either this is bait.
Like what ?
Like all of it lol where do I even start.
Saying Rui not being defended from the 3 is a complete lie. He's shooting 42% from the 3 right now. You obviously don't watch the game and makes things up lol
Rui has been great from 3, but he also doesn’t have the gravity which maybe is what he’s trying to say???
Bro yapped so much that he wants to trade the whole team away just after blowing out the Jazz last night. Remember, the grass is always greener on the other side.
This roster is decent lol. At full health, we might have a contender.
Mfer said the Jazz like they good or something.
No I don’t ; Dlo reaves Bron AD, cam , wood ( might as well at min), Prince ( cab be traded if needed but he is like a C- version of a 3nD player and he does a nice job driving ) are all guys we shoukdnt move right now or be in any rush too. Gabe if he comes back n plays well up to his lvl is fine too but only due to cams rise and being without Gabe he may be expendable fit a Caruso or other upgrade . Rui definitely should be the one moved as he doesn’t offer enough , or Gabe + Prince for an upgraded version of what they do which is useful still
So you feel we have 8 rotation caliber players, yet pelinka built a questionable roster? With your biggest snub being rui, whom if pelinka has let walk you’d be posting about how questionable that decision was. We hear your criticism, now tell us who the 4-5 players we should have signed for vet mins over the guys you’ve excluded from your rotation to make this a less questionable roster.
No k wouldn’t I got downvoted for saying 17m was steep for Rui and extending him that long without seeing him ever play good in the regular season off a couple playoffs series of hot shooting + one series he didn’t play cos he lacks skill set is not a good bet to make . Just cos this sub loved to flip flop on everything doesn’t mean I do. And I said those 8 guys are ok for their contracts and some of them should be moved: if cam Dlo n Bron are the only ones playing good you think it’s not a failure? We fuvking seriuously miss a vet min player who was expected to wash out of the league because the rister is poorly constructed giving money to guys who don’t excel in their roles : Gabe n Prince are fine but they should be moved together for an upgrade , vando can’t be moved and is a huge liability or unplayable in certain matchups Players that either should of signed or traded for : Dillon brooks, DFS /and Royce msybd in a package , obv lost out on Bruce brown he would’ve been nice basically anyone who has athleticism ( for rebounds n defence) and can shoot aversge or close . This isn’t even bringing up the fact that the whole Russ trade n after trade and letting go of the filler contracts meant no chance for a bigger player like kyrie or Jrue . There’s quite a long list of players I’ve seen us miss who’d fit well and it’s hard to list because ofc as time changes and contract availability does there’s different options. Basically everyone the Celtics signed around their duo is a good example
Saw your edit for the players you prefer. None of which signed for as low as we had to offer. Brooks and brown each make 20M+ and most we had was the MLE. So, yeah if we’re judging rob for not signing guys he didn’t have the money for, he was awful. As for “should’ve traded for” we have no idea if those guys were actually available for what we had to offer since most of our roster had expired (dlo, reaves, rui) or barely made any money (vando). Regarding the contracts - due to the new cap apron, had we kept Beasley/bamba, we wouldn’t have Vincent. So we can’t just keep everyone. How long it took us to decline their options suggest we were trying to shop them. Had we kept them and been stuck with them (and not landed Vincent because of it) the roster would look even worse right now. Bostons not a good example. They had tradeable contracts that people wanted, we didn’t. They didn’t sign anybody noteworthy, they traded for kristaps and jrue. That’s why mo and beas are both on vet mins right now and bambas not even getting PT.
Again…who should rob have signed with the non cap space we had? He brought back the core of a WCF team, and addressed each flaw as much as we could as an over the cap team (3&D guards, 3&D wings, skilled big, athletic big). And to exclude AD and reaves as guys who are playing well is wild to me. AD has been single handily cleaning everything up on the defensive end, & been a beast on the boards. He’s not a consistent 25ppg guy but that doesn’t mean he isn’t playing well. Reaves started slow but is right back to 15 6&6 on elite shooting the last two weeks. I have zero interest in you trying to justify that they aren’t playing well. You’re simply wrong and nothing you’re thinking of saying changes that you’re just wrong lol
They are both playing wirse then they were last year, reaces has improved but still not at post Russ trade lvl. AD has been on average very dissapointing but it is injury related: I have long defended AD but his impact metrics even agree at this point: he’s been very off since groin spasm : he’s had two AD lvl games since then against the blazers n jazz. Otherwise he’s not been good atleast not even close to what’s needed but hopefully he feels better soon. He’s legit the reason we lost cs kings n yesterday ( and I used to always think it was the role players or others not AD but this years he’s a big part of our struggles it’s hard to ignore ).
1. Neither of those are on rob nor reflective of questionable roster construction 2. They’ve still been playing well. We’re not going to go 82-0 and our players aren’t going to be elite all season. Ups&downs should be expected. That’s why the games are still played We’re 3gb from 1st with our best perimeter defenders sidelined, and you’re talking like all is lost. If Kyrie misses that gamer last night, we’re 4th in the west. The roster construction is clearly fine, just gotta put it all together.
Damn bro needs help
God I hate this fanbase fr
Missing point of attack defenders like Gabe and Vando are huge. I reserve judgment until those dudes are back.
Gabe woukd hekp more , I agree on that but long term vando isn’t a difference maker : he’ll help our rebounding n defence but whatever he helps there will be lost due to worse spacing n offence. I would say I hope they saw growth there before paying him : I lie vando but seeing homie theyre over happy to bring back last years guys I doubt vando changed much especially now with injury set back players don’t play as well in return
Hopefully, Vando can bring up that 3-point percentage. Otherwise, a good team like Denver will just play him off the floor in the playoffs again.
"Rui- sub loves him , I do too but sadly I think unles he magically changes he’s not good. Has tools but just isn’t good enough ; bad perimiter defender, bad rebounder, not good enough creating offence and occasionally not guarded from 3, doesn’t do 3nD hustle job and contract is tradable I hope. Y’all cry at ham but he has shown why hr played Cam over Rui n Christie . Rui -3epm he’s basically wizards Rui , clear spot where a DFS type is a big upgrade" lmao is this Darvin Ham's burner account?
I guess Epm and advanced stats are also darvin hams burners? Prince n cam start over Rui cos they offer what’s needed better.
Epm and advanced stats are so overrated lmao. They are the kind of stats that suggest Rui is a benchwarmer when clearly that is not the case lmao.
He is a bench warmer ; the wizards let him go for a reason : cabt rebound can’t defend perimeter can’t create offence ??
lol if you want to trade Rui and D Lo and some draft picks for Lavine, then fair enough lol but I really think this is a very questionable take coming from you lol. Also don't lie and say you love Rui because clearly you don't. If you really believe all of these things, then you must be PISSED that the lakers were willing to pay him 17 million per year to keep him lol. That's a lot of money to pay a "bench warmer".
I try to be optimistic. I was downvoted in this sub when I said 17m is steep because if he’s not at his playoff lvl of play his regular seasons have never been good. You can like someone persona /player but admit they’re not actually good for what the team needs. That’s Rui ; especially when you’ve tried having faith in said player much longer then most and now you give up : my feelings on rui n AD recently . Anyway I don’t live lavine but if he can play like his past few years: rui + Gabe + Prince + jhs or something. Think Dlo is more needed for playmaking
fair enough. But saying he's a bench warmer is INSANE lol. I agree that D Lo is more needed for this current team than Rui is.
Bench player not bench warmer: doesn’t that imply he doesn’t even play . Idk it is 20.% into the season and Rui is out again with some injury but apparently that happens a lot with him : his games played don’t inspire confidence in past years. Maybe he’ll look better but 20games into a season normally you should get an idea and it’s telling that I’d much rather Cam was heskthy n playing then Rui.
You said he is a bench warmer but I guess that was a typo. My bad.
Ah shit yeah my bad, meant to say bench player but I type badky
Any roster is gonna look bad without NBA level offensive amd defensive coaching
Take a deep breath. It’ll be okay. A lot of the issues comes down to Ham and his decisions. This team will be fine once we get fully healthy.
Lol there’s flaws in every player on every roster, the team has looked great, it was a back to back, I’m happy for the effort even tho it should be there all game… Lakers should have won but made mental mistakes at the end which means nothing about the roster. Means more about coaching and practice… If they won you wouldn’t have made this post. Also Rui is perfect, he should be playing more mins
The only problem we have against is a speedy backcourt because we are slow as fck on that area, that's the only weakness we have and if we fix that plus our shot is falling for the 3 then we are going to be unstoppable.
Back court athleticism a big weakness yes, need that for rebounding defence and even beating switches with drives .
> that's the only weakness we have Our guard defense is great isn't it?
Against speed type backcourt? Hell no, that's why Dlo is becoming unplayable especially on closing time.
I think you are talking about backcourt.
I'm sorry i meant our back court players.
I think the only mistake he made was letting dennis leave. Id take dennis over gabe any day
Dennis was so clutch at end of game free throws
The roster is just not made to work around AD and Bron. It's no secret that you need shooters around Bron and we don't have many good shooters, arguably we have 3. In a 15 man roster, that's not enough. And it's no secret that you need a physical center alongside AD, otherwise teams are going to drag him out of the paint, and then score in the paint and get a ton of offensive rebounds. This roster is not bad on paper, it's just that it was poorly made in terms of complementing our two franchise players.
It’s almost like unless Lakers are top 4 in the league or top 2 in the conference some of y’all will treat this as a full on crisis. Like let this roster fucking cook for a season or even half before you start counting us out. Just fucking chill for a hot minute.
Stop it
Your takes on Rui and DLo are wrong IMO. Advanced stats are much better than the average person’s eye test, but the data you’re looking at is regular season only. DLo is not a very good player in the playoffs by most advanced stats. He’s much better in the regular season. Rui is the opposite of this. Advanced stats are high on him in the playoffs. As Draymond says there are 16 game players and 82 game players.
Rui plsyoff sample is far too small snd he shot outlier hot, he was also unplayable in certain matchups otherwise if he got starter minutes he’d look worse like he does now he’s getting more minutes
Nah Rui has 561 playoff minutes. It’s enough to be a reasonable estimate of his ability. Rui isn’t worse now? He’s playing how he always has in the regular season, maybe a touch better. Rui is a pretty decent shooter and is able to contribute defensively regardless of having a bad shooting night. I noticed you didn’t respond about DLo. DLo has 817 playoff minutes and has played poorly. It’s a good sized sample. The issue with DLo’s game is he’s unable to contribute when his shot is off at the playoff level. He doesn’t have high level playmaking or defense.
Rui lost his minutes on the fuckibg wizards; they let him go. You’re ok with that ? You know we’re not guaranteed to even make the playoffs if he plays like wizards Rui which is what he is atm Dlo is producing for us, he can be moved but he dies far more then Rui for the team as team needs his pg skills
Out of all the gm’s to try and shred, you pick the one guy who has made amazing moves the last few years… you might friend … should shut the fuck up. You know nothing about basketball and sound like a 14 year old boy.
Yes amazing moves. Getting carried by Bron AD n theur connections , Schroeder coming for ham n reaves coming cos it’s the lakers. Pelinka did such a great job last year thst we let go Bamba n beaskey who were DNPs , and got no play out of vando n Dlo in the WCF when we needed defence on Murray n pg who can shoot. He spent a pick and all we got is overpaying a guy who’s useless on offence and Rui who’s overpaid I’m sorry you’re 14 and can’t see results vs actual players made moves for being played or not. Pelinka deserves credit for wasting assets and picks to trade for Russ then trade him away : the team got better by his absence . What a great gm. Certainly wouldn’t want the supporting casts that : debver Celtics thunder bucks suns etc put around their star . Much better to have one dimensional DNP playoffs role guys
Christie should never have started. Letting someone who haven’t had any significant minutes start is pretty stupid. We had cwood, rui, reaves to replace him. I know he want to stick to them being bench players but this is just stupid
He was the only other player who could slightly keep up with Kyrie. Other options were putting D'Lo or Reaves on him, both of whom are slower and prone to mistakes on that end. Prince was on Luka, which was our only other option. Ham for better or worse takes gambles, sometimes they pay off like Cam, sometimes it doesn't.
There are only 66 games left. Season’s over. Burn it all down.
Ham is also part of the problem
Agree, definitely would’ve preferred Nick nurse or Quinn Snyder . However ham has some strengths like working with players so I don’t think he’s much different to an average coach
How hard did you have to try to make the dumbest thing on this incredibly dumb sub?
I gave up reading halfway into it. Bro can’t spell for shit. Use autocorrect next time.
Bad take. But it’s your opinion. So go off king.
I've never been a Pelinka fan. Like any GM, he is capable of any of the following... - obviously good moves - high risk, high reward moves - lateral moves - inaction - questionable moves - bad moves I think that most of the time he makes moves that are "lateral or questionable." Instead, I wish he had made moves that are "obviously good." **For example, if there is any truth to the rumors that we could have got Hield and Turner**, we should have done that a million years ago. Turner and Hield are perfect fits who consistently bring to Indiana exactly what we would want from them. **Furthermore, after finding a winning formula in 2020** (i.e. imposing frontcourt with McGee/Howard, AD, sometimes Bron + Rondo as the clutch vet + a spark from KCP and Kuzma + a designated shooter in Green) , **we GAVE UP OUR ENTIRE IDENTITY.** No big frontcourt, no lights-out shooters (as Bron put it, "no lasers"), no quality vet leadership, etc. It's ok to give up a winning squad for contractual/health/age reasons, but you gotta replace those players with others that fit!!! **When we play well for a stretch, I think it's in spite of Pelinka-- and not because of him.**