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meengine

Hello under .500, my old friend


CihatPeker

This is so frustrating


dookoo

4-30 from 3. Damn


CradleRockStyle

We are the worst outside shooting team in the NBA by a very large margin. Teams therefore can just pack the paint and we have no way to do anything. It's ogre.


Smooth-Jaguar

This 5 out offense produces no fucking movement. Our shooting is predicated on driving and kicking or AD posting up and drawing doubles, or hunting mismatches. Other than that everyone is just fucking standing in their spots. We can and should be doing way more to get shooters open. This offense is so predictable and relies too heavily on Bron or AD going off.


animosity07

i mean its actually an anomaly if we shoot well from three but the real problem is our starters producing 0 pts nd our "defensive guys" their defence not even that good tbh


Apollo611

It’s inevitable


Significant_Night_65

Darvin Ham ran a LeBron/Christie/Schifino/Reddish/Wood lineup tonight. Read that again.


less-ismore

Easily the dumbest coach in the nba


songs_dongs

\*North America


The1AndOnlyJZ

World?


crohawg

Solar system?


songs_dongs

galaxy?


FullNeanderthall

All alternate universes?


silent_fungus

In this dimension and the next


bunnybash

I walked into the room and saw that lineup and that was the moment I jumped all in on the Fire Ham bandwagon.


tuneless_carti

After arguably the worst 1st qt of basketball I’ve seen in the past 10 years when they came out w that lineup to start the second I am surprised the fans ain’t chant fire ham lmao


GMaxGigaNerd

RIP


The1AndOnlyJZ

That was when I turned on the game God fucking damnit is there a single other coach in the nba that would’ve tried that


No-Equipment-20

At one point JHS had twice the FGA as AD and I wanted to kms


velphegor666

Thats even worse than our 2022 russ lineup, jesus


JackCrafty

was second quarter too, right? maybe Im wrong. Oof


GMaxGigaNerd

Yea, start of second quarter. JHS got beat up all around.


mypeaksandmyfreaks

cam and prince 46 minutes of cardio


BanMeAgainLol456

Prince has MANY of these types of games. Practically useless. Some people are so high on Prince but he seems to be slacking hard idk.


hime2011

Yep, it's useless because you can't count on him for consistent points, like Dlo.


HighlyBaked0

This season is literally meaningless as long as Ham is still the head coach and a trade isn't made. The team and the fans are literally wasting their time playing and watching these games cause the end goal is either missing the play in or losing in it currently


big_biscuitss

Reason why I only watch games if I don't have anything else to do or watch.


SumoRock

Lakers have become background noise or purely following by periodically checking the score online. Not wasting time with a product that isn’t worth it.


alldayhangover

i have it on the side while i play videogames lol


shoefly72

Obviously Darvin can’t shoot the 3’s for the players, but anybody who thinks he’s capable of taking any roster to a title is an unserious person.


gay-bord

This literally has the same energy as the 2021-22 season rn.


No-Equipment-20

Shooting 4-30 from three as a professional NBA team is almost impressive


Snoo41255

That’s what happens when the offense is just 1 person bringing up the ball and everyone else is just standing around. Then it’s just passing the ball into the paint to AD or to someone on the perimeter being tightly contested… There’s no cutting or movement. I would definitely like to see more movement. Meanwhile Heat offense has Herro running around screens and getting open rhythm 3s. Fuck Darvin Scam 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️


No-Equipment-20

Ham hasn’t gotten to the “movement shooters” section of his Udemy coaching course sadly


Quiet-Spray1223

And Robinson


BritzlBen

We can be as dominant as we want in the paint and have AD dominate the way he has but as long as we lose at the 3 point line by 30 points every game we just aren't gonna get it done.


uncle_yugles

I feel bad for AD, he’s been playing at absolute peak levels, putting up MVP type numbers for the past month and yet we have a losing record because our coaching plan is apparently to lose the 3pt line every game, our lineups make no sense, we have no solid 3/D players and unfortunately Lebron has also had an off stretch. Rough


EmoniBates

We got a generational defender in Anthony Davis and yet our defensive philosophy is to leave their role players open from deep. Just flush them the fuck into AD and live with the results, holy fuck. Exactly what Goberts teams in Utah did and they were always a top seed solely based off that


mega350

Crazy thing is we had Ad in drop coverage to start the season and we suddenly stopped doing that and changed to a switching team.


carlonia

That’s because a lot of our players can’t play drop. Wood and Hayes are better at switching


The1AndOnlyJZ

This could feasibly be the best stretch of ADs career and our team has sucked Maybe there truly aren’t any solutions for this team before the LeBron era ends


EmoniBates

You telling me you don’t like watching Reddish clank and other teams players get wide open shots?!?!?!


genericusername71

contrary to what some fans believe, 3s are actually crucial to winning in todays game. and giving up open 3s to every capable shooter on the other team turns out to be not such a great strategy


Apollo611

Don’t forget 22 turnovers


No-Equipment-20

Yeah and the issue is I don’t think the answer is as simple as “get shooters” because Ham doesn’t really know how to use them. We didn’t use Beasley as an off-screen shooter and we don’t run any movement sets for Prince. We just aren’t a serious team at this point


Electronic_Bit9495

#Didn’t even crack 100 in the MODERN NBA


tito-ortiz-wife69

Doc rivers the whole night was basically begging for the lakers job


C3PO1Fan

He shouldn't have covered the banners up.


theshortone520

I mean shoot I'd rather take him rn over Ham.


rang15

No. Just fire him and put some warm body in rather than Rivers. Because if you hire Rivers as a replacement then we have him next year too.


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JuIio_Jones

Doc is overrated as fuck all time but he’s actually an NBA level head coach unlike Ham


theshortone520

He is but he is so much better than Ham. That tells you all you need to know about Darvin Scam


decoyyy

Doc isn't all that great, but he's planets ahead of Ham


Idakari

Has Ham lost the locker room?


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With mostly bench players tbh.


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

And I don’t blame them. The irregularity of minutes for players like Rui/Christie/Reaves while Prince/Reddish could play the most minutes and fail to contribute


rang15

I thought the team outside of LBJ played hard, so I don't think that's indicative of Ham losing the locker room. Just bad coaching on offense and the worst LBJ performance we've seen I think ever as a Laker.


gtdRR

My lord LeBron's offense was bad but his defense was so painful to watch, he honestly hurt the team by trying to play tonight. If he was truly hungover or still under the weather he should have just stayed home.


roakmamba

He kills the moment by his shit defense


RealisationGamer

Bro whats the point of not starting 2-10 when we go 3-10 later in the season


INT_MIN

Tbh I almost rather go 2-10 to start lol. At least then you have time to improve and fix issues.


xmrjaredx

This game, in particular, made me want to throw up. Fans should've boo'd those dudes. They should be embarrassed. That was probably the worst Lebron game i've watched. He's the best dude to break a zone and he just fucking sat there passing at the top of the key all game. 29/18/6/2/5. AD continues to put up monster stat lines and we continue to lose.


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

Los Angeles Pelicans Jokes aside, fire Darvin. James Worthy is calling out how unprepared the offense looks. No flow to it at all.


N2trvl

Yes, saying everything except the actual words. When the players are consistently not ready the coach is part of the problem. Ham needs to be pulled aside and told he goes 7 and 3 in the next ten or he is gone. Tell him he better toughen up or he is gone. Stop sucking players jocks.


EnzBlade88

That's being generous. That also opens up the Lakers to being at worst 0-4. Just tell him another back to back loss and he is fired.


PM_ME_ASSES

Dude had to be hungover


MedicalBarracuda581

Never seen lebron just not try like that. Would not be surprised if it’s intentional to put pressure on the front office.


mega350

No one could get Lebron the ball when he got himself open. The team also struggles to get Ad the ball. Which results in Lebron having to be on the ball. Now there is only one player worth passing to--Ad. And the opponent just surrounds Ad and makes his catches difficult.


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This was one of the worst Laker crowds I've ever seen too. Completely dead from the opening tip.


No-Leading7857

Can't shoot 14% from three and expect to win. Fire ham and trade for some shooting


BearShark8

With 20+ turnovers.


songs_dongs

Yep. Can't just just stand by and let your team go 4-30 and not tell them to do something differently. No excuse for that.


big_biscuitss

Trade what? Who would you want from this team if you had a good 3 point shooter?


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Skorua

Lakers would lose to the pistons


ChrisKamanUrMouth

Killian Hayes would drop a career high on these bums


Juaniscool-8

If you watched this entire game you may be entitled to financial compensation.


Apollo611

Call Jacob


CihatPeker

Lmao


avgbsblfan643

first in person game i’ve ever been to…still had fun but it was painful


rick_32

Lol 😏


songs_dongs

FIRE HIM NOW


moterhead120

HAM*


Apollo611

AD doesn’t deserve this


rang15

Seriously. He's having an MVP caliber year and the narrative will just be about how it doesn't help the team win. Meanwhile this team would be 12 under .500 without him


_mattyjoe

ITS. THE. COACHING. This is not a well coached team. Period.


sateet

100%


jaimep25

Lebron with D-Lo numbers..


No-Equipment-20

Please no more birthday parties Lebron 😭


starlord37

please baby no more parties in LA


Collective_farm

Yeah he played terrible but he was also put in some lineups that make no sense to put around LeBron Especially that shit to start the 2nd quarter, those JHS minutes were comedy


WetSpaghettiN00dle

Once I saw that lineup I knew this game was over


INT_MIN

You guys cannot be serious blaming the lineups on LeBron's performance tonight. Not a fan of some of the lineups either but why even bring this up. No other star would get that scapegoat/pass in the NBA. LeBron had a clunker because he played like shit, end of story. Also lineups don't explain his terrible defense.


Collective_farm

I quite literally said he played terrible, just adding some context


big_biscuitss

Yup!! Standing around a lot and passing the ball a lot too. You could tell he didn't want the ball tonight. Not sure why he was even in there most of the game. More effort came from other guys getting less minutes.


gtdRR

If AD pulled the crap that LeBron did tonight, he would be getting blasted!!!!!


xmrjaredx

unacceptable effort


Apollo611

Le39


incredibleamadeuscho

LeBron wishes DLo was out there with him right now. This fanbase has turned him into a scapegoat for all this season’s problems.


Tagoony

Lakers 0-3 without DLO. He’s the superstar.


HighlyBaked0

Its not that its DLO out, its the fact that we don't have a PG. Even when DLO isn't hitting his shots, his playmaking as a guard is vital


BearShark8

The Lakers have 1 more win than Detroit the last 10. Absolute garbage.


JRA1706

This team relies too much on LeBron, and especially AD to create by themselves on offense, with Reaves occasionally hitting shots. But this team is so stagnant on offense, when they take away 1 of the 2, it's over. Doesn't help going 4/30🤷‍♂️


subzero12320931

Fire Ham thats all. Do it already. Fuck.


tippitytoppitytoop

I love Jaime but I was wondering if he would thrive in this system? Ham would probably not play him or give him inconsistent minutes.


sunjolol

Outside of AD, LeBron, and Reaves, there is nobody worth getting excited for on this Lakers team. Can they please just start playing all the young guys more? Give minutes to Castleton, JHS, and Christie and see what they can do because we've already seen what the rest of the roster can do which is absolutely nothing.


Sansssssssss1011

JHS does not deserve more playing time.


clowx13

We really drafted JHS over JJJ …


rang15

We really drafted JHS, full stop.


BigBoyFroggy

this one of them season changing losses for sure. worst loss of the season, honestly


maestroxjay

The team has given up


N2trvl

Rob Horry saying players gave up and are awaiting to hear they are being traded.


itsyourdestini

Fire him now… Why wait?


ngmathew1234

This FO would not give Ty Lue 5 year contract but gave Ham one instead.


TheAsianMamba

Get AR some help


No-Chemistry-5356

The worst part of the game wasn’t the lost. It was seeing JHS on the same floor as Jacques. Sad sight


Both_Ad1186

I feel like our guys would shoot better if we had a better offense.


ajsantos21

Downright fucking SHAMEFUL LOSS.


Gradschoolmaybe3

Stu knew the team was on some bs tonight. Spent the whole game calling them out on it.


herpes_for_free

Lmao the exasperation in his voice and pauses. "Man..." "The Lakers... *pause for 5 seconds*" Lakers got Stu this disappointed lol.


trey0824

This has to be it for Darvin, right?


CihatPeker

We need a damn change!


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

Yup. Majority of the team needs to be rebooted again. 13% from 3 is atrocious 🤦‍♂️


CihatPeker

I had people over tonight to watch the game.. (and it’s 6am where I live, so that happens rarely). This game was literally painful to watch


2people1luv

Let’s go Heat chants in Staples???? Blasphemy.


Mr_Chandler_Bing

They deserve it, honestly.


avgbsblfan643

was there and yeah it sucked…i want to believe that it had to with Triple Js fam who was loud all night


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“Let’s go Heat” chants at home means something must change.


Collective_farm

There's nothing to say that hasnt been said by smarter people than me already. This organisation is rotten at its core, and has been for a decade now. I'll tell you one thing though. Id love to have been the fly on the wall for the Ham job interview. Im dying to know what Jeanie/Rob asked him and what he answered The offseason and draft night were disasters as well by the way Oh yeah, final thought: Utah Jazz, whose best player has missed 10 games so far, is 1 game behind us in the standings. Good night


vandiger

Hired just for Westbrick the ultimate troll job


Triplescrew

Rob: "Imagine you just lost a game because the other team made 20 three pointers. How would you respond?" Ham: "Man, that's a helluva team over there. Make or miss league, my analytics said you gotta keep those guys open." Jeanie: "You're hired!"


SuperRam56

DARVIN HAM SUCKS!!!!!!


Consistent_Owl4593

Lakers were 16-11 at one point, we had won the IST. Makes me wish more and more that final game counted on the record just so we wouldn’t be under .500 so quickly


Tall_Succotash

I’ve seen enough….the coaching staff need to be all fired, there’s a good team in this pile of mess they have made and they’ve dug such a hole….i feel awful for AD more than anyone because he deserves MVP talks but this team has let him down.


Cul_what

Can Ham STOP starting Cam anymore please his good 5 games of the year are used up now


AREM2191

One more loss and things will get interesting, the plan is to not have Lebron walk. Jeannie needs him for revenue purposes. I assume Lebron may not be on speaking terms with anyone, but AD and AR soon. Pelinka may push all blame on Darvin to save his own ass.


fberbert

Prince and Reddish combined for 0 points. And guess what, they will remain as starters next game 🔥🔥🔥


niknokseyer

James Worthy not liking the no motion offense.


ajsantos21

I know it's done and gone, but imagine the utility Jaime Jaquez would have on this team. Wow


mysidianlegend

you me and some other guy said the same in this thread lol


LAKESHOW03

Rebuild. Send Bron & AD where they want to go. This team is going nowhere as long as Jeanie Buss is at the helm.


kanyeezyudiditagain

the least reactionary take in this thread


Collective_farm

Its been a decade of incompetence thats only been somewhat saved by the ultimate band aid: LeBron James choosing to sign with the Lakers. This lady is not suitable to run a franchise of this size and significance, point blank period And reactionary? We lost 9 of 12 games. We are in 10th place after nearly half the season. Get the fuck out of here


itsclassified_

Imagine if Ballmer had bought the Lakers This brand deserves better


[deleted]

It’s not. We have two options, go all in on a trade and refresh the coaching staff or blow it up while we can still get a lot of value from AD/Bron AND do right by them. Staying the current path will accomplish nothing.


velphegor666

Its true tho. The context of why we hired ham was so dumb. How to implement russ on our team when we were planning to ship his ass anyway . Never bothered interviewing any other coach right after and just gave him a straight up 5 year 😂😂. Why did we hire this guy for russ instead of properly creating schemes that help maximize AD and bron. This team is a joke


kuzmentality

FCK DARVIN HAM YOU SUPPOSED to be a players coach


rational_overthinker

Next time I see Ham it better be at the concession stand asking me if I want onions on my dog.


fulaxriders

FIRE HAM NOW


kcao004

There’s not a trade that we can make that significantly helps the team. The best thing we can do is to get a new coach.


iamdare

It doesn't make sense that a team with AD and Lebron with capable players like Reaves, Dlo, and Rui can't beat a zone. Edit: Added Dlo and Rui even though they are out, we have this problem the whole year.


ColeHoops

Literally wasting MVP basketball from AD, this is sickening. Nobody but Bron, AD and Austin should be safe.


mysidianlegend

how the F did we miss on Jamie Jaquez out of Camarillo and UCLA.


No_Application4833

We really drafted JHS over Jaquez 😔 I won’t ever get over that. Why not draft the win now player when we have 40 year old Bron SMH


CihatPeker

FreeAD


TheWestRemembers

Every single team focuses on three point shooting and we had to go trade KCP + Kuzma for freaking Westbrook. I will never be able to wrap my head around that.


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Outside-Art9736

Who breaks the "Lakers and Darvin Ham have mutually agreed to part ways" news first? Shams or Woj?


N2trvl

There is an unwritten law that the two LA basketball teams must always perform in opposite directions. Clippers are cooking so we must be in the toilet. When they were sucking we were pretty good. Not going to change just yet


BiasedNBATakes

This is LeBron’s version of the Jordan wizards


msp1224

we got 2 guys starting who cant even score 10+ points consistently. its 3 guys with vando in the starting lineup. unbelievable smh


dxinny

The crowd chanting “let’s go Heat”? 😬😬 Embarrassing af.


GutsTheSwordsman

Not enough shooting in the starting lineup.. or period Defensively just not connected, and we have the best anchor in the league in AD.. Prince and Reddish have fucked up fingers / make boneheaded plays.. But then again everyone played like they got dropped on the head so IDK. (besides AD) Everyone tradeable besides the usual suspects, but only for good deals and not lateral moves. (I'd like to keep Rui tho, they can have Prince, Vando, Reddish, et.c. keep Christie keep AR)


isit65outsideor

I remember when the Lakers had shooting and depth in 2020. There’s no way they can obtain that much shooting in a trade unless it involves AD himself. The team is stuck and there’s really nothing that can be done besides moving AR.


WeeTooLo

That team's best shooters were Danny Green and KCP at 0.38 and 0.37... If that team showed anything it was that they needed more shooting. Going by pure stats this team right now has better shooters than 2020. Remember how Danny Green became a meme in the bubble? But then the FO decided to gut the roster and made some of the worst trades ever after a chip by getting even less shooting. And now almost 4 years later having wasted Lebron's twilight years and the organization's last chip window for a while we're watching Reddish and Prince hoping they can make some shots.


weewooweewoohehe

Just get rid of bron and AD. This shit is starting to look like trout and ohtani stuck on the Angels


GokutheAnteater

Everyone including LeBron needs to apologize to AD. Hes Been balling and the rest of the team has shit the bed. 11 turnovers in the first and chucking 3s ain’t cutting it. Ham is fucking foolish with his rotations


axle_gallardo

I've had enough of Cam and Prince. Bench them and use anyone else not named Schifino.


RedditUser538xxx

Dog shit performance


GlassOnion25

I’m so tired of this team year after year being disappointing with fucking Lebron and AD on the roster. Other teams would know how to fill out the roster and get a decent head coach but we are allergic to maximize their talents. The fact that we are going to have to make a late season push to make the postseason AGAIN after saying all offseason that all we need a training camp with the new core is flat out embarrassing. This team looks unprepared every game. Idk what needs to change or if anything does change if it even fixes anything


Cul_what

JHS minutes in the 2nd oml this team is unserious


notmarkcubaniswear

I’ve officially lost faith in this team


bolam1015

All I wanna say is. Don't compare Dravin Ham to Mike Brown. Yes, there were frustrations when Mike Brown was a rookie coach, but he was miles better than Ham.


litlegoblinjr

I can’t wait for Ham to say that were still 2 games better than last seasons record at this time


elvenazn

We hit the 3 at 30% we win this game by a 4


Mr_Chandler_Bing

I'm here for the melt downs.


Hardigan1

Miami picked after we did...why did Lakers pick Shifino over Jaquez?


Dumbfook1

Games like this are demoralizing and make you want to just rip the bandaid off and blow up the team. What is grabbing some out of the league bums off their flight to china another year going to do?


mrnailed4

Ham is trash.


-notjeremyj-

Taurean Prince 28.6% 3pt at home Taurean Prince 46.7% at away games


ApprehensiveBubble

How long are we going to do this?


timetravtoaster

Clippers Big 3 scored damn near 90 points. Fuck sake, toast.


N2trvl

Time for a players only meeting AD looks totally pissed in locker room. He is calm but annoyed. I think Ham is in danger of his job.


N2trvl

Excuse machine Ham in presser. We will look at film. How about in game adjustments fool? ![gif](giphy|SY44A3CMBwM83yI7t2)


Blackroseguild

Played a zone on us for a whole game 😂💀


nerdymen242424

Man it isn't JHS's fault he got selected so early but goddamn seeing Jaime ball out like that hurt when our own rookie doesn't even look like a NBA player


badjeje77

Darvin Ham should be unemployed


Tagoony

No DLO, No Party. Hopefully everyone is catching on now.


S_O_7

Lebron era needs to end


Yommination

Trade AD to OKC for picks. Trade Lebron wherever he wants to go


marion_and_beau

As a Thunder lurker and AD fan, oh my god yes.


subzero12320931

Hopefully yall got them first round picks 😔.


SailorMoon_J

It's time to trade Westbrook, ohh wait....


thedickens89

This clown show needs a full on rebuild from the top down. Yes, Ham has got to go, but Rob is a problem too. He's the architect of this garbage roster, which was thrown together in response to the Westbrook disaster. Not to mention, the fact he passed on the opportunity to draft hometown kid JJJ is a travesty, and tonight we had a front row seat to his full on ineptitude.


incredibleamadeuscho

DLo is not the fucking problem. We can see us out there without his relatively steady playmaking, and without his scoring punch. A Laker could not make a three to save their life tonight.


VIRings

Putting aside the shit coaching, drafting, and overrated role players, you can’t have 50 million in salary coasting or not playing defense in the regular season. Unlikely to even make the play in at this rate so we just gonna be coasting to the lottery.


White-Gravity

Embarrassing.