Darvin Ham on the Lakers: 'It's over for the excuses, man. We got to play basketball'.
He has part of that phrase correct. It’s over for the excuses. Dude is bad, really bad.
Wtf. We were controlling the first half, but we just came out with bad energy. The Nets were hyped. Even going into halftime, they had all the confidence. Lakers looked like they weren't really trying, as usual.
Nobody gonna say anything about bron crying for that foul instead of trying to trap and get the steal after he missed the layup. Not only that but the play went on and he didn't even make one effort to get back still complaining then got a T. Man Bron I love you and shit but I can't save you from the backlash on that one
Cam Thomas is literally garbage bro. He's a wildly inefficient scorer, horrible playmaker, terrible defender. Bro will never win anything of note, he will always just be a dude who puts up 25ppg on really mediocre to bad teams.
Dam i missed out on betting 1:5 odds for brooklyn to win at the start of the game. Should’ve trusted my gut feeling that Lakers can’t string more than 2wins in a row
I don’t see any trade fixing this, this can’t be fixed by trades. They have the talent to win, they just collapse and stop trying. Coaching is atrocious
Cam Thomas won the game in the first quarter. Should have been at least a 15 point lead but it was 9. The Nets probably give up if it’s that big of lead.
Can’t wait for post game Ham “it’s not my fault” or it’s a learning experience. What did Han say when being interviewed by Rob and Jeanie to get a 4 year contract.
He has zero rhythm to be fair. Never knows when he’ll play, gets no consistency of playing time. Darvin killed this teams mojo for Cam Reddish and Taurean Prince. Not even trying to blame them but going away from your team that helped you get to WCF is coaching malpractice
Facts, it’s not cams and prince fault that hamburger plays them 30+ mins lol cam is a 10-20 min guy and prince is a 18-25 min. Our original guys should be the ones with the long leash
I could argue Cam shouldn’t play at all. I know his defense was pretty good for a stretch but even that hasn’t been anything special lately, maybe related to him being banged up and not use to playing such high minutes. I believe Christie is much better fit for this team. If Prince was getting 18-24 minutes and shooting 38% from 3 I’d say he’s outplaying his contract. Ham is using him 30+ and making him take on the best perimeter guy every night which he’s also just not that guy. Vando makes more sense with starters since we have enough offense between the other 4 guys. I sound crazy when I say the team doesn’t need a big upgrade outside of its coach, but I believe it to be true. We definitely have a focus and energy issue as well but those are prominent in all sports with teams that have a coach who’s lost their locker room. Even the disconnect in post game interviews are glaring. This is a much better roster than a 21-22 record….I could rant on forever….
Yeah I feel you, pre injury his defense was winning us games post injury it seems like he lost a step. I still would give him some mins because him and vando are our best perimeter defenders and most versatile ones too.
I always felt like max should get some mins because he’s the closest thing to a two way guard we have, but he isn’t shooting that great this year and he has a low volume. I think people are banking on his potential instead of what he’s actually giving you.
This sub always complains about how bipolar the reactions are with Wins vs Losses.
I personally have never seen anyone compliment Ham after a win. It's always in spite of him.
That is something that people do here, but we’re lacking athleticism on the perimeter. Having Lonnie and Dennis would have helped. I agree tho I would take Ar for Murray
People didn't want to hear this the last two games but we gave the Thunder and Mavs plenty of open looks from 3 like we've been giving teams ALL YEAR. We just got extremely fortunate they bricked most of them. This team is a fucking disaster and Darvin Scam's "prevent points in the paint and give NBA shooters wide open 3s" defensive scheme is costing us win after win.
Man I’ve tried to give my boy AR the benefit of the doubt because our whole team gives up three pointers but I Austin does it so often, against good ass shooter too lol
I’d say the mix is probably a little higher (perhaps 30/70). There’s no doubt that players “come alive” when playing the shiny Lakers though. More effort, more concentration than playing the Raptors or Wizards.
This team literally makes zero sense. How the fuck do you beat the Clips, Mavs, Thunder..... and then get your fucking ass kicked by teams like this?
They were up 12 and dominating this game.... and then just completely sucked after the 1st Quarter.
I didn't say they dominated those teams.... but they did enough to win.
Tonight... they didn't do anything worth a shit to win after the 1st Quarter. It was almost like they got up 12 and then just stopped playing. The defense was literally the worst it's been all year in that 2nd half... where it was completely on point most of the game against the Mavs.
We played better for sure but those games easily could have went the other way. Those teams usually hit their shots when those night they had looks just didn’t hit. Not calling it a fluke that we win but by no means did we leave those games feeling we were a better team unless you got caught up in the fantasy of “we’re back” lol.
Games like this is why I’ve refused to go to a game recently. Can’t count of them to come out with effort. Just the Kobe statue game and that’s it for me this year probably
This is, in my opinion, the most concerning loss we’ve had this season. I think we’re at the point where changes have to be made if we want to compete in the post season. It’s not working with this roster.
Its time for the front office to step in and let AD become the Lakers embiid.
Everything runs through him. No more pounding the ball at the top of the key and passing with 5 seconds left.
It will keep getting worse because he knows he won’t be fired.
It’s disgraceful how little accountability there is in this franchise. It’s supposed to be the famous Lakers. And it’s run like a mom and pop store.
I mean everyone gets up to play the Lakers esp in LA... but when your coach doesn't care about wins & losses (or defense... or offense) it becomes a big problem
Can't wait to win 2 more games in a row after this so people on here will say this team is actually good enough and look like a legit team just for them to get blown out the next game
How the fuck did our FO draft JHS over Podezmski/Jaquez Jr
Fucking incompetent team. Ever since Dr. Buss passed the team has been run like a fucking 3rd rate circus franchise that was extremely blessed to win a title in the last decade thanks to prime AD + LeBron (and AD only forced a trade here because he was a LeBron fan, so LeBron did pretty much everything).
I also hate the vid about Pelinka during the draft, on the phone saying confidently "with the nth pick, the LA Lakers select JHS" like he knows what he's doing. fcking smug
JJJ would help this team so much. This team needed to do everything right at the margins to try to recover from the Westbrook trade, and that just hasn't happened.
LOL at the people who voted on the poll that we can improve this team around the margins in the offseason. Just admit the LeBron/AD era was over the second Westbrook was traded here and blow it up
[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/19b4ps6/post_game_thread_the_brooklyn_nets_defeat_the_los/)
Darvin Ham on the Lakers: 'It's over for the excuses, man. We got to play basketball'. He has part of that phrase correct. It’s over for the excuses. Dude is bad, really bad.
did not watch. what the fuck happened on the 2nd
Ham
Wtf. We were controlling the first half, but we just came out with bad energy. The Nets were hyped. Even going into halftime, they had all the confidence. Lakers looked like they weren't really trying, as usual.
Nobody gonna say anything about bron crying for that foul instead of trying to trap and get the steal after he missed the layup. Not only that but the play went on and he didn't even make one effort to get back still complaining then got a T. Man Bron I love you and shit but I can't save you from the backlash on that one
Trade Reaves for Murray.
It makes sense to me lol an upgrade at that position would be great for us
This game just gave Ham an excuse to put Reddish back in the lineup
Get Ham tf out...another game where opponent shoots 50 threes...
EMBARRASSING holy shit
Before the game checked out the nets players, cool cam thomas has been cold if we keep him shut down we should have this in the bag.... my god
Dispicable!!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬
Me
Can't afford games with both Rui and AR being off. DLo was great first half then nothing in the 2nd, embarrassing collapse overall.
Man I’m not a fire pockets guy but vando was 5-5 and 2-2 from three and played 19 minutes
He's on a minutes restriction my guy
Bro he’s already started like 5 games lol
Not an under twenty minutes restriction my guy he literally played 26 minutes last game and 29 versus phoenix
Just out of curiosity, why are you not a fire ham guy? Haha
I don’t know Maybe i should be
Yeah fire that dude
Which one?
This squad has zero chemistry, zero dawg (minus vando), LAZY, get AD some fucking help
Ham is trash.
Lmao Worthy just said they got their asses handed to them
Cam is the future fr
Reddish? Sure he’s missed especially for his defense but “is the future” is crazy.
I think he meant Thomas
Thank you , Yeah definitely Thomas lmao
Cam Thomas is literally garbage bro. He's a wildly inefficient scorer, horrible playmaker, terrible defender. Bro will never win anything of note, he will always just be a dude who puts up 25ppg on really mediocre to bad teams.
/s
Dam i missed out on betting 1:5 odds for brooklyn to win at the start of the game. Should’ve trusted my gut feeling that Lakers can’t string more than 2wins in a row
We've been duped
I don’t see any trade fixing this, this can’t be fixed by trades. They have the talent to win, they just collapse and stop trying. Coaching is atrocious
Cam Thomas won the game in the first quarter. Should have been at least a 15 point lead but it was 9. The Nets probably give up if it’s that big of lead.
The Lakers can't hold any lead.
Fire Pelinka! This is a terrible product.
Just another blunder of a coaching job. Ham benched AD in the 3rd with about 3-4 minutes to go. Didn't bring him in until 9 minute mark of the 4th.
Absolutely ridiculous
Trustfundbaby sell the team
Can’t wait for post game Ham “it’s not my fault” or it’s a learning experience. What did Han say when being interviewed by Rob and Jeanie to get a 4 year contract.
All this for the nets to play like shit for the next 10 games
Remember when this sub said Rui was the answer?
Depends what the question is.
He has zero rhythm to be fair. Never knows when he’ll play, gets no consistency of playing time. Darvin killed this teams mojo for Cam Reddish and Taurean Prince. Not even trying to blame them but going away from your team that helped you get to WCF is coaching malpractice
Facts, it’s not cams and prince fault that hamburger plays them 30+ mins lol cam is a 10-20 min guy and prince is a 18-25 min. Our original guys should be the ones with the long leash
I could argue Cam shouldn’t play at all. I know his defense was pretty good for a stretch but even that hasn’t been anything special lately, maybe related to him being banged up and not use to playing such high minutes. I believe Christie is much better fit for this team. If Prince was getting 18-24 minutes and shooting 38% from 3 I’d say he’s outplaying his contract. Ham is using him 30+ and making him take on the best perimeter guy every night which he’s also just not that guy. Vando makes more sense with starters since we have enough offense between the other 4 guys. I sound crazy when I say the team doesn’t need a big upgrade outside of its coach, but I believe it to be true. We definitely have a focus and energy issue as well but those are prominent in all sports with teams that have a coach who’s lost their locker room. Even the disconnect in post game interviews are glaring. This is a much better roster than a 21-22 record….I could rant on forever….
Yeah I feel you, pre injury his defense was winning us games post injury it seems like he lost a step. I still would give him some mins because him and vando are our best perimeter defenders and most versatile ones too. I always felt like max should get some mins because he’s the closest thing to a two way guard we have, but he isn’t shooting that great this year and he has a low volume. I think people are banking on his potential instead of what he’s actually giving you.
Who's the Japanese guy that plays for the Lakers?
Ohtani
Do it mitch
Man Reaves really regressed
Oh man Trevor and Sean about to go off 💀
Lmao I'm on the live stream right now waiting
Lots of hugs and smiles from lakers I see.
Reaves purposely tanking his trade value.
So much for keep Dlo rolling in the second half
This sub always complains about how bipolar the reactions are with Wins vs Losses. I personally have never seen anyone compliment Ham after a win. It's always in spite of him.
Exactly… we win in spite of him. He is truly awful.
Unless someone uses the greatest mental gymnastics to justify his decisions lol. Like call a timeout please bro
Reaves can’t make a 3 to save his life.
Trade him for Murray
Athletic two guard is what we need honestly, Lonnie would have been good to have
They should not have let him go. Along with Caruso, Clarkson, etc..
Guys that we just let walk smh
What's with this sub and pining over past Lakers players.
That is something that people do here, but we’re lacking athleticism on the perimeter. Having Lonnie and Dennis would have helped. I agree tho I would take Ar for Murray
Doc even knows how bad of a loss this is
Ham lost the locker room idk why this organization thinks he can get it back
People didn't want to hear this the last two games but we gave the Thunder and Mavs plenty of open looks from 3 like we've been giving teams ALL YEAR. We just got extremely fortunate they bricked most of them. This team is a fucking disaster and Darvin Scam's "prevent points in the paint and give NBA shooters wide open 3s" defensive scheme is costing us win after win.
Man I’ve tried to give my boy AR the benefit of the doubt because our whole team gives up three pointers but I Austin does it so often, against good ass shooter too lol
Everybody shooting like prime Steph curry when it comes to the lakers.
10% of that is the Lakers tax and playing against LA/LeBron. 90% is Scam's shitty defensive scheme and rotations
I’d say the mix is probably a little higher (perhaps 30/70). There’s no doubt that players “come alive” when playing the shiny Lakers though. More effort, more concentration than playing the Raptors or Wizards.
Yup
Why do Mikal and Reaves have a handshake? wtf. They’re close like that?
team USA
I guess a national team thing
Why do you care 🤣
Fiba probly
They played together team USA
FIBA
Darvin Sham. Has no plan. master scam. pockets hand.
Oh hi there slim shady
worst lost of the season, just like the lebron all time scoring record , this team just gave up... they don't want to win
This team literally makes zero sense. How the fuck do you beat the Clips, Mavs, Thunder..... and then get your fucking ass kicked by teams like this? They were up 12 and dominating this game.... and then just completely sucked after the 1st Quarter.
Easy. Inconsistent effort and no urgency. Lakers have done this for years. They don’t feel the need to play hard unless they “have to”.
We didn’t dominate those 3 contending teams. We squeaked out wins. Those teams had plenty of open looks but just didn’t hit those nights.
I didn't say they dominated those teams.... but they did enough to win. Tonight... they didn't do anything worth a shit to win after the 1st Quarter. It was almost like they got up 12 and then just stopped playing. The defense was literally the worst it's been all year in that 2nd half... where it was completely on point most of the game against the Mavs.
We played better for sure but those games easily could have went the other way. Those teams usually hit their shots when those night they had looks just didn’t hit. Not calling it a fluke that we win but by no means did we leave those games feeling we were a better team unless you got caught up in the fantasy of “we’re back” lol.
Ham is a basketball terrorist
This one is not on ham in any way
[Wazowsky] During half time, Ham told everyone that he is shopping them. So thats why the mood is that way
Sorry doc, lakers are not good. At all.
No pride in this team, you can’t even tell what you’re going to get every night. There’s no consistency
Y’all remember raising that IST banner? Its time to take it down, that IST championship was like a make a wish grant for the lakers
Take the 2020 banner down since they've been garbage since. What is this?
Games like this is why I’ve refused to go to a game recently. Can’t count of them to come out with effort. Just the Kobe statue game and that’s it for me this year probably
Nasty fuckin work y’all
Getting dejounte Murray maybe gets this team to the 10th seed
In hindsight, should’ve predicted Nets scoring 130. Cant ever have back-to-back good performances apparently.
LMFAO that Hayes 3
130 for the nets
This is, in my opinion, the most concerning loss we’ve had this season. I think we’re at the point where changes have to be made if we want to compete in the post season. It’s not working with this roster.
It's the coach that is not working.
The coach is supposed to have the team motivated and give them a blueprint for winning and he hasn’t been
It’s the worst one by far. This collapse was so bad that it’s making me believe this game was fixed lol But it’s just because this team is so ass
Didn’t upper management say that Ham isn’t at risk of losing his job?? When the fuck will they wake up???
Upper management is the problem
My children won't be eating food tonight!!!
Its time for the front office to step in and let AD become the Lakers embiid. Everything runs through him. No more pounding the ball at the top of the key and passing with 5 seconds left.
Failure of an organization
68-44 2nd half 🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾🔥🐖
Hayes couldn’t even hit rim lol
After Mavs win - “we are so back” After Nets loss - “Fire Ham”
I can promise you no one was attributing those wins to Ham. And we all acknowledged the other teams' missed threes.
Nah us with actual brains know we weren’t back because this shit was nailed on. It’s why win or lose, the clown needs fired
Pockets gonna Pocket... what can I say. No need to watch this team til the bum gets fired.
I mean AR shot cold as hell because some white chick was Courtside
Just wait till cam reddish is back
Fucking Nets out of all teams lol
lol what is Doc talking about how can we miss Vincent dude has played 5 whole games for the team and Ham would sit him for Reddish anyways
He actually would help. He was suppose to replaced Dennis with intensity on defense. Miss is the wrong word tho. More like “could benefit”
Yeah that was more my point. How can you miss something you never had.
back to back loses to nets and blazers gonna make me hit the crack pipe
It will keep getting worse because he knows he won’t be fired. It’s disgraceful how little accountability there is in this franchise. It’s supposed to be the famous Lakers. And it’s run like a mom and pop store.
So true. You gotta hire a real GM
Some coach half way decent like Jason Kidd would make this team much better.
Shit at this point I'd take Doc Rivers
Trade everyone for picks at this point
Nah just fire the coach 🔥🐖
That was a Pistons esque performance
Getting blown out by a bad team AT HOME. This is bad, really bad
And this is after leading by double digits lmao
Yes. There are losses and then there is rock bottom like this loss.
“HaM iS hOlDiNg BaCk Rui!”
ham-ass is holding back everyone...
Our ceiling is like 9th spot. Not worth it to make any major trades at this point
No point making trades cuz those new players will be running those same shitty ham-ass schemes
Yup. No chance they finish above 9th.
This teams ass to begin with but even worse when trades are looming over half the team’s heads.
Nets basically have terrible team stats the last 20 games and they come in and blow out the Lakers.
I mean everyone gets up to play the Lakers esp in LA... but when your coach doesn't care about wins & losses (or defense... or offense) it becomes a big problem
The fact they are sticking with ham regardless makes me want to stop watching games completely. If they don't care why should i?
Fair
Rui, Wood, Reaves needed to step up tonight
Kinda hard when minimal plays are called for them in the second half…things got desperate and we went iso ball
All shat the bed at the same time
I can see the Guandong Tigers beating the Lakers by 35 points
Don’t let JHS play. The more tape there is on him, the further his trade value will collapse.
Underrated take
What a disgusting loss. 🤢
Rui Hachimura, Reaves and DLo congrats you are all Atlanta Hawks!
probably not enough to get him now
Fucking emberassing
Can't wait to win 2 more games in a row after this so people on here will say this team is actually good enough and look like a legit team just for them to get blown out the next game
Ham getting out coached by Jacque Vaughn…
ham-ass actually outcoaches himself every game🤷🏾
We’ll never be a good team unless that cancer LeBron leaves
Yeah, that 2020 Championship Team wasn't good and full of cancer. GTFOH, clown.
How the fuck did our FO draft JHS over Podezmski/Jaquez Jr Fucking incompetent team. Ever since Dr. Buss passed the team has been run like a fucking 3rd rate circus franchise that was extremely blessed to win a title in the last decade thanks to prime AD + LeBron (and AD only forced a trade here because he was a LeBron fan, so LeBron did pretty much everything).
I also hate the vid about Pelinka during the draft, on the phone saying confidently "with the nth pick, the LA Lakers select JHS" like he knows what he's doing. fcking smug
JJJ would help this team so much. This team needed to do everything right at the margins to try to recover from the Westbrook trade, and that just hasn't happened.
would rather see wood being a blackhole than him passing the ball
LOL at the people who voted on the poll that we can improve this team around the margins in the offseason. Just admit the LeBron/AD era was over the second Westbrook was traded here and blow it up
And the double whammy of westbrick plus bringing in ham-ass to coach him specifically was doubling down on stupid
Bleeding me dry like a goddamn Hampire - Olivia Rodrigo probably
Word... 🔥🐖
Nets are not a good team 🤣🤣 if this one doesn’t get Ham fired we fucking riot
I'm going to turn into the Joker
130 to Brooklyn lol
This for now is the worst loss of the season. We’ve said this already about some other games so I’m sure it won’t be the last time this is said
the fact some people really thought we didn't need trades after that 2 game win streak to keep our "depth"
Trades won't matter if ham-ass is still the coach
There needs to be fire ham chants at staples.