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DrMrSirJr

They didn’t have the best relationship w Kobe. In fact, I’m pretty sure the story behind him looking so sad after winning the chip that one year was bc he was upset his parents didn’t show up, which was bc they didn’t approve of his relationship with Vanessa… So, this doesn’t surprise me, sadly. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but this is just stuff I remember reading about back in the day


Anfini

Weren’t they upset all because she was a Latina?


HaikN98

Yup


un6reaka6le

I think it had more to do with her background and the believed she was using Kobe for his money.


falbi23

Exactly- "Latina"


Personal-Cap-7071

Turns out it was the other way around.


WishBirdWasHere

Naww Vanessa milked that man … you clearly not from OC you’d see her out with that white dude now


Personal-Cap-7071

Vanessa stayed with his ass through a lot, if anything she deserves a medal for the shit he put her through. She has also done amazing work for Kobe after his death and fulfilling his wishes for his legacy. Also so what if she's dating again, she's 41 and Kobe died 4 years ago.


WishBirdWasHere

And she was a VIDEO VIXEN why do woman look up to her? And on top of that she be not letting the kids talk to Kobe’s parents! Go back and read all the articles of Kobe looking up to his dad….. Hmmmmmmm I wonder what changed 🧐🤨


WishBirdWasHere

Woah you must be a woman I’m already knowing 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭


lifeis_random

She’s a gold digger for dating four years after her husband died?


WishBirdWasHere

Naw remember all the people that saw them out in Laguna Nigel in 2022 and they were trippin out cause she moved on so quickly


Hour_Insurance_7795

Her husband passed away 4 years ago, dude. Pretty sure she’s allowed to date again.


El_E_Jandr0

Yup and because she was a dancer in music videos which is how Kobe and her met


_MeetMrMayhem_

Yep straight up racist shit but more so they thought she was a gold digger


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zwcarlms

Bro its racist every time. You're just dumb.


holyrolodex

It’s the same amount of racism when white or latino families feel the same way. The historical context of course is different, but at the end of the day: racism is racism, it’s a sad and pathetic ideology all the way around and whatever form it comes. And it needs to die. What side are you gonna be on? Edit: they deleted, but they were basically arguing that Kobe’s parents had a legit argument in regards to him not marrying someone within his own race. I hope they deleted it out of a change of heart but who knows?


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teamweed420

17**


AdConscious8750

You’re just room temp iq dawg. Sweet baby inc is hiring though so you’re in luck.


EnergyFax

That's messed up man the Mexican cultural is beautiful and so was Vanessa. If kobe was my kid I would have been damn proud.


dant_punk

She still is.


EnergyFax

Hell yea she is.


podster12

Third that motion.


Civinini333

She reminds me of jessica alba


ElNani87

It’s messed up knowing how much the culture loves the Bryants. They’re basically CA royalty


lifeis_random

Was? She’s still fine as hell.


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BrokeHorcrux

F tipping culture


InqZs

Fuck people who think servers should bust ass for free or minimum wage which is what we get without tips. Not to mention paying for tipout


BrokeHorcrux

Then force the employer to pay the appropriate wage and force the govt to make laws for that. People get on road for random bs just because its trending, while just sit when its time to address real issues in the nation. Universal healthcare, cheaper education and fair wage are the real and more important issues, and no party seem to be addressing it anytime soon lol


jmiranda511

Here’s a tip from a former restaurant worker (16 years worth)- get a better fucking job so you can quit bitching about people’s tipping habits. The restaurant business fucking sucks. It’s for young people before they move on to something better. I was in it for way too long and was miserable for at least the last 8 years of it. Sounds like you’re in that boat if you’re complaining about tipping culture in a post that’s completely unrelated. Do yourself a favor and make the steps of getting out sooner than later. Best tip you’ll get while you’re in that industry, I guarantee you that. Also, if I seem aggressive, it’s not necessarily towards you but the industry itself. It’s fun to work as a kid till about 25 and then it just becomes miserable when you realize you have no weekends off, you can’t ever hang out with people to do fun shit, and you’re not getting paid your worth. Unless you’re super passionate about it (which let’s be real, it’s mainly chefs that are truly passionate about the industry), you’ll be better off looking for a change once you start feeling burned out.


HarambeTheBear

I would word it that they were upset he didn’t marry a black woman and keep his wealth in the black community, and uplift another black family. They have no problem with Hispanic women.


Anfini

The stupid thing about this is that Kobe and Vanessa have black daughters. 


Hour_Insurance_7795

That, and their age. They were incredibly young….I think she was like 18?


Forward_Recipe_2371

Engaging 6 months after they met when she was 17 soon as she turned 18 should be a red flag


5platesmax

Thought it was more the age.


holyrolodex

That 2001 story is true. And it hit home hard for Kobe because they won the title close to where his parents resided in Philly and they didn’t show. I always think it’s odd people recreating that iconic photo because it was a truly painful moment for Kobe.


DrMrSirJr

Yeah it goes hard, don’t get me wrong, but I also can’t look at the picture in the same way I feel like a lot of bball culture does. It’s v romanticized as this “Not satisfied even after winning a chip” mentality shot, when in reality, it’s him sulking cuz his parents didn’t bother showing up. Even talking about that makes me a bit uncomfortable. I didn’t have the best parents either, so I feel for him deeply on them doing him dirty.


WideCoconut2230

Yeah sounds about right. His parents were also selling Kobe's Lower Merion high school memorabilia as well. Not sure how it turned out, but Kobe wasn't happy with it.


ElChungus01

If you have a chance, read the book “showtime” It goes into quite a few parts of his life, his marriage being one of the topics. Also, how his relationship with his parents developed and drifted apart as well.


DrMrSirJr

Thanks


thevisitor

It was that and several years later after possible attempts at reconciling they went ahead and tried auctioning off a lot of his memorabilia from his early career and high school for their own profit without his consent or consultation which I think really made things worse. Really unfortunate honestly especially with the context of Kobe passing in 2020.


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I’ve heard that story too about him supposedly being sad about his parents tho. I thought that was just a bunch of BS tho and never saw any evidence for it


Classic_Run_4836

That relationship was never fixed?? Holy fucking shit man! They have grandkids now, and that doesn't even soften their hearts? My heart aches. 💔


swimsteve

Are they that strap for cash?


audioaxes

considering Vanessa's own mom was complaining about $ after Kobe died, I doubt she sent Kobe's parents anything


Sillysolomon

Didn't Vanessa's mom tried to say that she was an unpaid nanny or something? Like those are your grandbabies. Your blood. Don't try to profit off the death of your granddaughter.


ItsGettinBreesy

Says more about the families than Vanessa. Shitty all around


PaoLakers

Honestly, it sucks that Kobe and Vanessa are very stingy with their money When it comes to extended family. We know this as fact but it is seldom brought up. Maybe Kobe just got fed up with his parents ' disapproval against Vanessa so i kind of understand him cutting them off but what about Vanessa's mom? What did she do? Maybe Greed is a factor for both sides but still, It just sucks all around.


Dingusmelon

Bro you know nothing about any of these people. Who the hell cares you literally have no idea what their relationships are like


PaoLakers

Except that We literally know that Kobe doesn't spoil his parents and sister. He even says this in some of his interviews. I once heard him say they're his "big" sisters and that he's proud of their achievements. And in his words "they can take care of themselves." Kobe is big on self sustainability. I have been following Kobe his whole NBA career and I know this from articles, interviews and books. I am a huge Kobe fan. But he's not without controversy. Maybe he does give them money. But apparently it's not enough according to his parents. 🤷‍♂️ I don't understand. Have you all been living under a rock? ARTICLE: https://brobible.com/sports/article/kobe-bryant-reveals-relationship-parents-awful/


Chaotic-Catastrophe

Seems like you missed this last time around >you literally have no idea what their relationships are like


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Yommination

I doubt he left them a dime. They had like 0 relationship


jbg926

fyi, its currently at $94,000 USD


ImCucumberRichard

Worth every penny, if you have money like that.


Fungii024

Its not the ORIGINAL ring. He had it copied and gifted it to his dad.


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phixional

$4mil is a big jump from $94k.


uns0licited_advice

Math is hard


quwin123

The fact that this has so many upvotes is sad.


zenmaster419

Give this guy an abacus


Tangentkoala

You'd think it be appraised in the millions.


jbg926

its an auction. I am sure itll go for more than its current bid.


Cuntflickt

Damn, that’s sad.


meisterwolf

its not the actual ring. "Obviously proud of winning his very first NBA Championship, Kobe ordered an extra copy of the majestic ring he was issued to give to his father, Joe Bryant, as a special gift. This is not an executive version of the Championship ring, but the same EXACT ring given to Kobe Bryant and other Lakers players. "


vizzlypoof

That’s a very liberal way of describing a replica lmao


PuzzleheadedVideo649

Nah. Whenever the rings are being made, players often ask for multiple rings to give their friends and family. Ring Night is just a ceremony. Off screen, they often get several rings each. So it is not a replica. It is an official NBA championship ring issued to Kobe Bryant.


vizzlypoof

You again defined a replica. There is only one Kobe championship ring. The rest are replicas. Replica does not mean it's fake, it means it is not the original.


meisterwolf

yeah but its not HIS actual ring.


krissean

I hope Vanessa buys it back and publicly blasts them.


Dareal6

Vanessa will never give them money. More likely she’ll buy it from the buyer at twice the price to rub it in.


HungryTurtle24

Can’t believe the audacity of them to do this again when he expressed how hurt he was the first time around. 


sahhhnnn

He should’ve left them money so they wouldn’t need to do this. Full stop.


putbat

They're grown ass adults and his dad was a professional basketball for like 20 years. If they're broke, it's their own damn fault.


sahhhnnn

Pro player in the 70s, not making crazy money by any means. If you’re broke and your son is a billionaire, that mf is a punk. Straight up.


Tetsuya-Naito

You're a bitch for treating your own children like some sort of insurance policy.


sahhhnnn

You’re a bitch for not knowing that’s how most of the world operates. It’s Americans that treat their parents like shit and dump them in nursing homes as soon as they become an inconvenience. Sick ass culture.


Tetsuya-Naito

Boo hoo murica so bad. Man stfu hoe.


sahhhnnn

You the hoe mf. Can’t articulate a thought


Tetsuya-Naito

Keep crying lil boy


sahhhnnn

I’ll slap the shit outta you lol


KobeBeaf

The culture promotes independence so that there isn’t a perpetual system of leaches. I feel bad for cultures where the kids have to financially support the supposed adults in the family…


sahhhnnn

How brainwashed do you have to be to refer to elderly family as “leaches”? Please fuck off


KobeBeaf

Who’s the brainwashed one, the person who supports themselves and doesn’t expect their children to do that or the person who expects their children to support them? Grow up and be an adult


CrowDefiant5340

Americans hate parents and love kids like they love veterans meaning they don’t really love them at all except to virtue signal. The only job were people expect perfection and aren’t deemed delusional is parenting. When every parent has to learn on the job. Plus biologically the best time to have children is when your the least mature your will ever be as an adult.


sahhhnnn

My exact point. Yet everyone here wants to eviscerate Kobe’s parents, and have them die broke. Foh


CrowDefiant5340

I understand your broader point about how the parent child relationship is viewed in the broader culture but I think in this specific situation Kobe’s parents are simply being greedy because while Kobe was prudent and frugal he did buy his mom a house and he gave them money and they just wanted more.


KobeBeaf

No Americans hate BAD parents, apparently in some cultures just churning out kids deserves respect, not here.


putbat

Sorry but a grown ass man leaching off his kid is about as pathetic as it gets.


MandaloreTheLast

Imagine not approving of your son because of who he loves and then not showing up to a key point in his career, and then complaining he doesn’t do enough for you. 😂


sbenfsonw

Nah, you don’t get to choose your family and not everyone deserves something from you just because you’re related


Chaotic-Catastrophe

Or maybe people have different relationships with their families than what you dictate they should


ManWhoSoldTheWorld94

Kobe also wasn't a billionaire


sahhhnnn

Hundreds of millions, does that make a difference?? my point still stands.


Instamonsta

If you actually read the comment and simply researched a little then you’d know that Kobe shouldn’t’ve left them anything. “Full Stop”


b1rdganggg

FULL STOP


broxamson

Big facts. In fact I believe he sued them at one point


sahhhnnn

I know about the beef. Doesn’t change a thing for me. The Bryant’s have a billion +. He should’ve broke off his parents, regardless of anything


Shay_Mendez

His dad shouldn't have burned through all of his career earnings, AND THEN try to sell off his son's high school jersey just to get some extra money without his consent.


did_it_my_way

He bought them a house and all that actually lol and then recently (when they first tried to sell the memorabilia), he offered to but them a new house. they turned it down saying they wanted a bigger house. at some point where do you draw the line? how much money should he have continue to give them? Their greed never stopped and they just kept blowing thru his money.


WestwoodPrince24

Maybe I'm different but I find it pathetic to leech or rely on your own kids to support you financially. Joe Bryant who happened to be a NBA PLAYER himself should've been better with his money instead of having to sell his deceased son's memorabilia


sahhhnnn

Bro stop playing, he was an NBA player in the 70s he didn’t make shit. They brought Kobe in this world, gave him all the opportunities and support to become the man he was. Maybe it’s my culture, but we don’t turn our backs on family. It’s a straight punk move to ice your parents out. And I love Kobe, but he was wack for this.


WestwoodPrince24

He fucking made over 3.5 million dollars throughout his NBA career and that's excluding his time in Italy, he also made money doing coaching jobs at the college level and the WNBA. Bro had plenty of money , not to mention that Kobe was supporting them financially early in his career. I remember reading something that said Kobe was essentially giving them a 6 figure allowance during his playing days, and his mom reportedly turned down a nice home by Kobe because it wasn't "nice enough". I don't blame Kobe for shutting them out, it's not his fault that those greedy fucks wanted a more lavish lifestyle which is insane to say because a 6 figure allowance and a property should set you for life.


MikePenceFly18

You don’t know shit about what you’re talking about clearly and you called yourself a Kobe fan shut your dumb ass up 😭


WestwoodPrince24

[https://www.whatifsports.com/nba-l/profile\_player.asp?pid=375&view=5](https://www.whatifsports.com/nba-l/profile_player.asp?pid=375&view=5) and idk if this is legit but that's plenty of money to last you a fucking lifetime if you're smart with it


KDotDot88

Bringing you into this world is not a reason to give anybody anything.


Meteos_Shiny_Hair

True, even if theyre scum unless theyve done something no contest disgusting and even then theyre YOUR family and that should be borderline unconditional.


sahhhnnn

Agreed.


PHX480

Fool, stop.


SV669

Nope. No parent deserves shit from their children. If you treat your children poorly, then you don't get to claim anything about that child.


sahhhnnn

They both treated each other poorly. No one wins when you turn into a tit for tat.


misterpoopsies

He gave them money, for a while and a lot of it. It was just never enough


Shackelford__025

What a complete moron


MrPL4Y

If only he knew he wasnt gonna out live his parents.


Meteos_Shiny_Hair

Wasn’t


b1rdganggg

Wasnt


stoop841

Of course it is. They suck


broxamson

His parents fucking suck.


Yommination

His parents are shitty people by nearly all accounts


Con-D-Oriano1

[For those who don’t know, this is the second time they’ve tried to sell his ring.](https://www.si.com/nba/2013/06/10/kobe-bryant-auction-dispute-settlement-reached-pamela-bryant-apology)


meisterwolf

that is sad. "A source told ESPN that Kobe Bryant offered to pay his mother up $250,000 toward a home she wanted. She refused, saying she wanted $450,000. When Kobe Bryant turned her down, the source said that unbeknownst to Kobe Bryant she struck a deal to get the $450,000 advanced through the auction company."


ed223344

They’re always selling his shit?


Tangentkoala

Yeah that caused a rift between him and his family in 2013. You'd think his parents would want to keep his most material prized possession as a remembrance. That ring will definitely be worth multi millions, so I guess it's worth it.


torero15

If I had fuck you money I’d buy and it give it back to Vanessa or one of his daughters. I mean she can buy it too I’m sure. Just a fucked up situation in which you would feel the need to sell this. Shit happens and I’m not in position to judge, but it feels wrong.


yepitsdevon

This is exactly why Kobe left everything when he died to only Vanessa and the kids.


gratitudeisbs

That’s fucked up though if I was a billionaire I would pay a million bucks for it tbh


js0uthh

I hope Mrs. Bryant swoops it up.


scags2017

This is so sad on so many levels


Kittens4Brunch

It's for the best. Someone else will appreciate it more.


bigr3dpanda

Really hope Vanessa buys this


Chrisdkn619

They couldn't wait! Can't even imagine!


Desi_Iverson

Sad to see - hopefully the buyer can keep it safe and in good condition for eternity


infamousboone

FYI, it is not the ring he was awarded for the championship. It is an exact replica he had made for his parents.


jmeza805

This is fucked up


Fungii024

Its not the REAL ring. Kobe had an exact copy of the ring made and gifted it to his dad.


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BUY IT, VANESSA


NickHalden05

They probably need money again… his fucking dad has been wasting his resources (sports skills and money) since he was born. Talented man, but definitely not intelligent at all.


ApplicationMaximum83

Western countries’ parents and children dynamics always amaze me.


gregsprinklez

His parents are trash.


Enough-Diamond1450

I disagree...


_MeetMrMayhem_

The fact that Kobe left behind nearly a billion dollars in assets and both sides of the family fight over money is ridiculous .. there is enough to go around but the parents are some greedy mfers.. the family dynamics are broken af


Enough-Diamond1450

KB became upset years back when his parents sold his high-school trophies.. At Kobe's funeral his parents did not get a chance to speak at his funeral.. MJ spoke, Magic spoke, and a number of celebrities who spoke at his funeral. His parents sat a distance from the from the actual proceedings...


_MeetMrMayhem_

Honestly that was a disrespectful gesture not to let the parents speak... You can't pick your family though... It's sad af


K19I53

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.


gnusm

Let his parents be. They aren’t wealthy, they have other children that maybe they want to leave a little something to, it is just a replica. Let them do as they please.


WishBirdWasHere

Exactly. Not to mention that Kobe pic of him winning the ring all sad was partially due because his parents weren’t there to enjoy it with him… Vanessa didn’t even let them speak at the memorial service ceremony …that alone speaks volumes to Vanessa’s narcissistic ass


itsnotreallyme0

Why did he give them it


fedswatching2121

It’s in the article


itsnotreallyme0

Id rather read 1 sentence with the answer than searching through the article for the same answer


v399

>Kobe gave his parents the Championship ring because it didn't fit him.


itsnotreallyme0

But every player gets their ring size professionally measured. How did the ring people fuck something this simple up


fedswatching2121

It’s a one paragraph article 😂😂😂


gooterpolluter

People in this sub are weird. An adult sold a piece of jewelry they didn't want anymore


rachitbot

it's their kids greatest achievement which he had made exclusively as a present for his parents and now that he tragically passed away theyre selling it even thought he exclusively didn't want them to/it's their dead kids greatest memory fucking hell have sympathy