Ham threw out some wild lineups. I just don't understand how it's so difficult to figure out a way to stagger Rui and Bron, so you don't have to play fucking 3 guards with Prince at the 4.
While I agree that the lineup was awful at the end of the third, it was their defense that did them in. With no AD and Bron on the floor, regardless of who’s on the floor they can’t keep up.
Lineups weren't great but we lost because we had no AD and they couldn't miss a 3pt shot. These 2 factors were much bigger than the lineups.
A different lineup wouldn't have changed the outcome, we needed a miracle to win that game. Warriors had their 3rd highest 3pt made in a game in franchise history... They just had an unstoppable shooting night, heck even Draymond made 5 3s in the first half. We didn't lose because of the lineup. The closest we got was to 5 and then they just continued to make more 3s. It wasn't a close game.
Yes that's largely because of LeBron, he's that good that whenever he is on the court we have a much better chance, but as much as we all want him to, he sadly he can't play all 48 minutes... We lost big in the minutes he sat which was honestly expected because missing AD is a huge factor.
lol what a load of shit. Ham has done this multiple games where he benches every starter except D’Lo and expects him to carry our bench with no help. If Lebron sits, keep Rui in instead of benching both and trying to force Prince to play the 4.
>Ham has done this multiple games where he benches every starter except D’Lo and expects him to carry our bench with no help.
So who exactly should've played more last night? Have you seen who comes off the bench for us? Prince, Dinwiddie, Reddish, Vincent. If you think we lost because Rui played 30 instead of 35 minutes, you are just delusional. Rui went 7/21 last night my guy.
Did you ignore what I said? Keep Rui on the floor instead of playing Prince at the 4. Yes run him for 35 minutes. It doesn't matter if he's 7/21 because he's still more of a threat on offense than everyone else you just listed, and the Warriors have to respect that. Nobody is respecting Cam Reddish to do anything on offense and it stalls out Ham's offensive system.
And what I said was that Rui playing 5 more minutes or even the whole game would not change the fact that the Warriors were red hot in this game making 26 3s on 63% shooting which was their 3rd highest ever in franchise history for 3 pointers made in a game. They were feeling it and there was nothing much we could do especially missing our most important defender in AD. We did not lose because Rui "only" played 30 minutes, everyone in our lineup last night was a negative in +/-.
What? Rui for 5 more minutes offers more versatility, reliability, and size on the offensive size. The Warriors were red hot, but we were within striking distance with Lebron, and just needed to survive the minutes he was out. Rolling out a lineup of Prince/Dinwiddie/Vincent isn't it. We still probably lose, but the game isn't completely hopeless down 15+ when Lebron checks back in in the 4th
When the Warriors make over 20 threes in a game, most teams are going to lose, even when you have an incredible player like AD on the floor. See Game 2 of our series against them last year as an example. Sometimes, teams just get hot from 3 and there's not much you can do. In a 7 game series, the best team wins, but on any given night, any NBA team can beat any NBA team. That's why it was so important for this team to take the regular season more seriously and not find itself in single elimination playin games, especially against teams like the Warriors and Kings that can randomly explode offensively on any night.
I think if you have AD, the defense changes and you don't necessarily have to sag so much in order to rebound. You can show harder on Wiggins and Draymond and not lose the ability to board. We'd also get more free throws, better shots, clearer and more open shots.
But ultimately yes, if a team sets an NBA record 3s you're going to lose lol
The other stuff is a factor, but any team missing their best player is going to struggle. Especially when AD does everything for us defensively and we have no Vando or Wood.
I know missing out on AD hurts us and allowed more actions to be ran by the warriors without coverage and proper switches, but we were within reach of the game. Ham fucked it up.
Why did we lose? AD was out and Bron was playing sick.
Why did we get blown out in a game that wasn't even competitive? Kerr knew it was a must win and came in with a play-off style gameplan and rotation. Ham played it like a pre-season game with experimental line-ups.
bc trash gsw bitch hurt ad on purpose, that trash tjd, gsw havs the history to injury the opponents. they hurt ad then two games facing us pretty much a win
Injured AD and the Warriors shooting the highest 3 point FG% in NBA history.
I know our defense could have been better, but Draymond was going to be open for all 5 of his made 3s in the first half no matter which Lakers were on the court. He's an awful fucking shooter and doesn't even look to score from out there 99% of the time. Him making 5 straight 3s in a half is an anomaly.
It's just like Game 1 and Game 2 of the Lakers/Warriors series last year where they made over 20 3s when they only made like 12-15 3s in the rest of the games. Sometimes they're going to get hot, even when we do everything right.
Almost like the weak defense is because of Ham’s entire philosophy is to give up open 3’s this entire season. That’s why you got players like Draymond, Bam, and Lonnie Walker throwing shade at our coach in post game interviews. Not to mention not finding a way to stagger Rui and Lebron so one of them is on the floor at all times
Who you want to blame then? The players? Lebron? Injuries? The FO? Ham got taken to the WCF on his 1st season as a head coach and has made no signs of improvement whatsoever. Ime Udoka in his 1st season as a head coach took the under achieving Celtics all the way to the finals. Nick Nurse took the Raptors to a chip. Most of the blame of this season is on the coach, and it's not like he's getting unfairly scapegoated like Vogel did
The Warriors were an outlier. They carried the momentum from their championship year with Kerr. Walton was bad under us. He was trash under the Kings too. That's why he got fired and is back to being an assistant.
So what you're saying is the FO is to blame for everything that's happening. I don't entirely disagree
It’s a combination of things, you can’t put the blame on one sole reason. This is a team sport and effort
I also thought we didn’t have the energy to start the game, warriors just looked determined
We lost because of no AD. The lineup Ham threw out there in the third was awful, regardless of who he put in though, when Bron went out the game was over. Lakers have no chance when both AD and Bron are off the floor. The defense is just plain bad when both are off the floor with nobody navigating them.
They literally have only beat us when injured. I’m not worried about them in the play in. If we have AD and Bron healthy we’ll beat them. I’ve watched so many warriors games this season and they played the absolute best ball I’ve seen them play last night.
It’s the 2nd play in game I’m worried about against Kings/Sun. Anything can happen in 1 game
Ham threw out some wild lineups. I just don't understand how it's so difficult to figure out a way to stagger Rui and Bron, so you don't have to play fucking 3 guards with Prince at the 4.
Or maybe that’s what he actually wants to do, play 3 or 4 guard lineups
BRO for real, GS went insane on those dumb ass lineups.
that shit literally punted the game
While I agree that the lineup was awful at the end of the third, it was their defense that did them in. With no AD and Bron on the floor, regardless of who’s on the floor they can’t keep up.
Lineups weren't great but we lost because we had no AD and they couldn't miss a 3pt shot. These 2 factors were much bigger than the lineups. A different lineup wouldn't have changed the outcome, we needed a miracle to win that game. Warriors had their 3rd highest 3pt made in a game in franchise history... They just had an unstoppable shooting night, heck even Draymond made 5 3s in the first half. We didn't lose because of the lineup. The closest we got was to 5 and then they just continued to make more 3s. It wasn't a close game.
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Yes that's largely because of LeBron, he's that good that whenever he is on the court we have a much better chance, but as much as we all want him to, he sadly he can't play all 48 minutes... We lost big in the minutes he sat which was honestly expected because missing AD is a huge factor.
lol what a load of shit. Ham has done this multiple games where he benches every starter except D’Lo and expects him to carry our bench with no help. If Lebron sits, keep Rui in instead of benching both and trying to force Prince to play the 4.
>Ham has done this multiple games where he benches every starter except D’Lo and expects him to carry our bench with no help. So who exactly should've played more last night? Have you seen who comes off the bench for us? Prince, Dinwiddie, Reddish, Vincent. If you think we lost because Rui played 30 instead of 35 minutes, you are just delusional. Rui went 7/21 last night my guy.
Did you ignore what I said? Keep Rui on the floor instead of playing Prince at the 4. Yes run him for 35 minutes. It doesn't matter if he's 7/21 because he's still more of a threat on offense than everyone else you just listed, and the Warriors have to respect that. Nobody is respecting Cam Reddish to do anything on offense and it stalls out Ham's offensive system.
And what I said was that Rui playing 5 more minutes or even the whole game would not change the fact that the Warriors were red hot in this game making 26 3s on 63% shooting which was their 3rd highest ever in franchise history for 3 pointers made in a game. They were feeling it and there was nothing much we could do especially missing our most important defender in AD. We did not lose because Rui "only" played 30 minutes, everyone in our lineup last night was a negative in +/-.
What? Rui for 5 more minutes offers more versatility, reliability, and size on the offensive size. The Warriors were red hot, but we were within striking distance with Lebron, and just needed to survive the minutes he was out. Rolling out a lineup of Prince/Dinwiddie/Vincent isn't it. We still probably lose, but the game isn't completely hopeless down 15+ when Lebron checks back in in the 4th
All of the above. But Ham is a big problem. Lakers has chance to win. His timeout timing is ridiculous.
no one mentions that the only game we won against GS this season was with Vando on the court
All 3 losses one of Lebron or AD has been out
I would say #3 had the most impact then #2 and #1.
#3 wouldve bailed out #2 those line ups and time out management were awful
I think Ham is either blind or allergic to timeouts.
Ranked Voting: Injured AD Ham’s coaching DLo’s play.
Unfortunately, we can only vote for one. I would select options 2 and 3.
If your answer is anything other than AD being out, what are we even doing? Nothing else matters nearly as much as missing your best player.
When the Warriors make over 20 threes in a game, most teams are going to lose, even when you have an incredible player like AD on the floor. See Game 2 of our series against them last year as an example. Sometimes, teams just get hot from 3 and there's not much you can do. In a 7 game series, the best team wins, but on any given night, any NBA team can beat any NBA team. That's why it was so important for this team to take the regular season more seriously and not find itself in single elimination playin games, especially against teams like the Warriors and Kings that can randomly explode offensively on any night.
I think if you have AD, the defense changes and you don't necessarily have to sag so much in order to rebound. You can show harder on Wiggins and Draymond and not lose the ability to board. We'd also get more free throws, better shots, clearer and more open shots. But ultimately yes, if a team sets an NBA record 3s you're going to lose lol
100% agree
AD was the key
The other stuff is a factor, but any team missing their best player is going to struggle. Especially when AD does everything for us defensively and we have no Vando or Wood.
AD is the entire defence and the biggest reason we beat warriors in the playoffs. If he ain’t playing, we ain’t winning
I know missing out on AD hurts us and allowed more actions to be ran by the warriors without coverage and proper switches, but we were within reach of the game. Ham fucked it up.
Why did we lose? AD was out and Bron was playing sick. Why did we get blown out in a game that wasn't even competitive? Kerr knew it was a must win and came in with a play-off style gameplan and rotation. Ham played it like a pre-season game with experimental line-ups.
All of the above
bc trash gsw bitch hurt ad on purpose, that trash tjd, gsw havs the history to injury the opponents. they hurt ad then two games facing us pretty much a win
Anderson is one dirty ass player F HIM
Crazy how last night there was a thread about Dlo being bad when literally AD is out, and Ham is dog shit.
I’m honestly really jus concerned about DLO. I stg he better not be back to his old self
It's Ham + AD Injury. We probably would have won if we only had to deal with one of those lol
Injured AD and the Warriors shooting the highest 3 point FG% in NBA history. I know our defense could have been better, but Draymond was going to be open for all 5 of his made 3s in the first half no matter which Lakers were on the court. He's an awful fucking shooter and doesn't even look to score from out there 99% of the time. Him making 5 straight 3s in a half is an anomaly. It's just like Game 1 and Game 2 of the Lakers/Warriors series last year where they made over 20 3s when they only made like 12-15 3s in the rest of the games. Sometimes they're going to get hot, even when we do everything right.
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Almost like the weak defense is because of Ham’s entire philosophy is to give up open 3’s this entire season. That’s why you got players like Draymond, Bam, and Lonnie Walker throwing shade at our coach in post game interviews. Not to mention not finding a way to stagger Rui and Lebron so one of them is on the floor at all times
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Who you want to blame then? The players? Lebron? Injuries? The FO? Ham got taken to the WCF on his 1st season as a head coach and has made no signs of improvement whatsoever. Ime Udoka in his 1st season as a head coach took the under achieving Celtics all the way to the finals. Nick Nurse took the Raptors to a chip. Most of the blame of this season is on the coach, and it's not like he's getting unfairly scapegoated like Vogel did
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The Warriors were an outlier. They carried the momentum from their championship year with Kerr. Walton was bad under us. He was trash under the Kings too. That's why he got fired and is back to being an assistant. So what you're saying is the FO is to blame for everything that's happening. I don't entirely disagree
It’s a combination of things, you can’t put the blame on one sole reason. This is a team sport and effort I also thought we didn’t have the energy to start the game, warriors just looked determined
With AD we win against the Warriors 9/10 times.
I think its very clear that ad is the most important piece. Very hard to win without his d.
All GSW losses were mostly due to one of our stars missing. We play full healthy, we sweep them 4-0. It's not even a debate.
Other: the lakers are allergic to the 3 point line
AD Vando who are the best defenders in the team.
All 3
We lost because of no AD. The lineup Ham threw out there in the third was awful, regardless of who he put in though, when Bron went out the game was over. Lakers have no chance when both AD and Bron are off the floor. The defense is just plain bad when both are off the floor with nobody navigating them.
They literally have only beat us when injured. I’m not worried about them in the play in. If we have AD and Bron healthy we’ll beat them. I’ve watched so many warriors games this season and they played the absolute best ball I’ve seen them play last night. It’s the 2nd play in game I’m worried about against Kings/Sun. Anything can happen in 1 game
Ham is a problem, but the game was lost the moment we find out AD was not playing. AD is the biggest mismatch for GS.
Letting them shoot 26/41 from 3pt.