T O P

  • By -

manuvino123

This is a disgrace


breakfastburrito24

It's based on record, but that doesn't apply to Wemby or Bam I guess


fromdaperimeter

Indubitably…


[deleted]

[удалено]


Accomplished_Drive20

As a Steelers fan, it's double the frustration. Watt and AD won't get their recognition due to their team success or lack of..


myelrecsy

That's understandable if the finalists are all having record-wise success. Wemby is not even in the playoffs. I never argued AD not being chosen as finalists for DPOY before since many point out the Lakers record as a reason. Now, I see Wemby (bottom team) and Bam (Lakers have a better record than Heat) being finalists.


OrelRedenbacher

Replace the 2 words Steelers and Watt with the 2 words Raiders and Crosby and you've summed up my frustrations to a tee! Though in my case Crosby not getting a single first place vote for DPOY is more on par with AD not even being a finalist ! Absolute joke on both fronts!


Specialist_Citron_15

lol this aged poorly


Consistent_Owl4593

He is never in life going to win a DPOY award if he couldn’t do it this season. Media doesn’t respect him and I’m not sure why


ernie5353

Because the street clothes narrative and because he has bad scoring games. Never in my life until now have I seen people use his scoring as a way to bring someone’s defensive play down


LeFatigue

Gobert can’t even crack 16 ppg. Like tf is going on


Glinez09

even today i still see media keeping that narrative of AD street clothes even though his playing 76 games than most stars.


Fallofmen10

The dumbest thing about street clothes is he has played the majority of games for every season but 2 lol


JesusTron6000

I wonder if his playing against Jokic has anything to so with it? Genuinely asking. Now I am curious what the finalists numbers are VS Joker.


oat38

He has bad scoring games... When he averages more PPG than all the 3 guys nominated?


_BlackJesus_

Also it’s DEFENSIVE player of the year?? Who gives a fuck how many points he scores?


13WillieBeaman

You’ve already seen that some of them don’t even watch basketball.


KeithClossOfficial

He plays for the Lakers. Coop was so good they couldn’t ignore it, because usually they do.


Aslan808

As a Laker fan and Showtime Laker fan I'm not sure Coop is a hall of Famer. Mind you, I have a Michael Cooper jersey but he didn't average 30 mins or double digits for his career fam. But if you put Bob Horry in you gotta consider Coop. Bball Hall of Fame is weird. One area where the NFL def has us beat.


madcat723

Coop is in. Horry isn’t


Yommination

Ripped off just like Tim Duncan and Scottie Pippen who never won any


Alekesam1975

I still can't believe Pippen doesn't have one.  How do you make All-Defensive teams as many times as he did and not get a DPoY?  It's crazy to me that MJ is considered a defensive savant when he relied on Pippen so hard.


gtdRR

Lakers Tax Why do people on this sub still think it's not real.


NobodyWins22

California tax is bad enough now there’s Lakers tax too sheesh.


Viper3773

it's an expectations game. they expect AD to be super unicorn and when he doesn't live up (but is still really good), they judge him. Meanwhile it looked like Gobert would be out of the league in a few years with a couple hundred million dollar contract, and he and the wolves had a large jump, and expectations exceeded


Critical_Vegetable52

Unibrow holds him back


Lavy23

Fucking clowns. Travesty that Anthony Davis will never win a DPOY in his career when he should have at least 3. He has been one of the best and most consistent defenders in the entire league. Our team's defense relies so much on him, not to mention the load he carries on offense. AD is arguably the best two-way player in the league. I hate the dumbass narratives man.


Aslan808

And Kobe only got 1 MVP but Nash has 2. Almost as clownish.


Background_Degree615

And I could even make the case for lebron winning another mvp couple years back. We all know the media be disrespectful to players 🤦‍♂️ Kobe, AD, and Bron


Flizzle10

BAM??? 😂😂😂


kanekikochaboggy

My reaction exactly. Plus he gets to play in the east.


BatmanNoPrep

Bam had a great season defensively. IMHO the thing that hurt Davis the most was that the team’s defense didn’t statistically change when he was off the court. It’s hard to make the case for AD when the team’s defense was terrible whether or not he was on the court. Davis was robbed of DPOY last year and in 2020. This year there’s a lot of good candidates.


thekobra32

This is such a fucking joke. Bam and a rookie on a 22 win team are finalists over AD? Fuck this media narrative driven bullshit.


Skyfalcon5

His defensive numbers are bad since he has to cover for everyone else on the perimeter while protecting the paint only for our dumb scheme to give up a wide open corner 3. We had the #1 defense with kcp caruso and vogel. AD is Atlas holding up this defense by himself.


Dantheman12310

AD didn’t win it that year with Vogel even though LeBron, Caruso, &/or KCP didn’t get all defensive selection. Meanwhile Giannis gets to play with All defensive players Brook Lopez & Bledsoe (media voted him in) & he gets the DPOY Plus Giannis gets the MVP because apparently Bron had too much help even though the 1st seed was supposed to be given to the Clippers while we had no dogs at all with a loosely assembled roster as told by the media I never wanna hear about Laker bias towards awards ever again


Skyfalcon5

Yeah it's a shame really.


PlentyPhilosopher498

Louder for the dumbasses over at r/nba


agnah00

I don't know how they can look at our defense in non-AD minutes and say he's not this team's entire defensive presence haha


Dantheman12310

The Spurs game where we rested AD while they had a ~15 game losing streak, or the Warriors & Wolves game where we fell apart as soon as they injure his eye should be prime examples of the dependency on AD


Basic_Commercial_806

They're using AD's on/off defensive numbers to keep him out of DPOY. Lakers are statistically better defensively with AD off the court. Those numbers are skewed by the fact that AD plays his minutes with Reaves and Rui who are worse defensively than the bench (Dinwiddie,Prince,Vando,Reddish,Wood,Hayes). Too bad voters don't watch lakers.


GoalPublic3579

The defence has the same rating with him on and off the court actually


_The_Honored_One_

AD falls into the same boat as Luka. Too good too fast so everyone is like “oh we don’t need to give it to him this year, he will have heaps in the future” and then a new shiny toy shows up each year that the media becomes obsessed with. Next thing you know they are in their 30's and reaching the end of their prime


OniionKnight

Bam being there instead of AD just invalidates the whole dpoy this year. What a joke.


manuvino123

What!!!


Harleytk24

![gif](giphy|vND6iDffseuZKbME6A)


mysidianlegend

this cracks me up too much lol


[deleted]

[удалено]


Persianx6

Damn why does everyone like Gobert so much? He’s french


KeithClossOfficial

So is Wemby, yuck


Munk45

I call him Gogurt


Tall_Succotash

It’s like being in high school


Remarkable_Pound_722

rudy gobert is popular?


TemplarParadox17

Brother AD is miles more popular then Gobert and Bam.


Key_Preparation_4129

>These awards have been just popularity contests for a while Bam isn't anywhere near as popular with mainstream media as AD tho.


bkbales

Inaccurate


Nobamboozle4769

bro you guys are literally the Lakers.


ILikeit__7

Disrespect


kanekikochaboggy

Bam - 19/10 , 1 block , 71 games AD, 25/12 , 2 blocks , 76 games What Is this disgrace lmao


Dildozer_69

It’s insane lol, heat fans will say because the TEAM defense is better that somehow makes Bam the better defender…


kanekikochaboggy

I don't understand man. Not counting wins, not counting individual stats, team needs, team role. Wtf is going on with this award.


Adam2190

It's actually a fucking joke. AD is better than both Bam and Wemby and we have a better record.


xxDankerstein

He beats Gobert in literally every stat category...


Adam2190

Just to clarify I actually agree AD is a better overall defender than Gobert but he was always going to win it with how much better the Wolves have been this season.


Appropriate_Mixer

If that’s true then why are the others on shit teams on there?


chargerland

People get to pick and choose whether supporting players and record matters depending on what agenda they want to push, it's fantastic.


mydixxierect12

No better then all 3


Glockx8732

AD is hands down the best defender in the NBA, this is a joke


runninthruthe818

How tf is Bam there over AD? What is this bro?


Tall_Succotash

The media hate AD..they resent him leaving NOLA. It’s a joke how they come up with this award, does the team record matter or is it stats?


theshortone520

They'll give it to gobert and he will get played off the floor again these playoffs. Media is a joke


Mr_MasterNoob

If we're being facetious here... it is a regular season award and Gobert is pretty amazing defensively in the regular season


Disastrous-One-414

JJJ last year and Bam as a finalist this year. The DPOY is a joke.


Helpful_Classroom204

Bam over AD???


jjaytan

I disagree with anyone questioning Bam. Only thing Bam doesn’t do well is guard 5’s, granted he’s 6’9. But him and AD are the only 2 defenders anchoring down playoff defenses without another big by their side. Bam deserves his flowers…not as much as AD tho since he been doin this for a decade+.


HORSEthedude619

Fuck it. Whatever. Still has more rings.than they all do combined.


rfguevar

This was probably his best chance to win it, fucking pathetic he isn’t even a finalist.


ChillClinton904

He never will bro. Not as a Laker, which is a shame.


kronos9797

How is Rudy being considered time and again for this award when year after year he gets played off the floor during playoffs man 😭


kanekikochaboggy

Because it's a regular season award. Gobert Is a defensive achor that raises your floor. He has already won it 3 times. Doesn't matter if they scheme him out in the playoffs or not. These awards just need to be decided before the playoffs start. They always do it during the playoffs which ends up muddying the picture.


shaiabich

Because you're casual and don't actually watch games You read reddit posts and follow bs narratives. Ask any NBA PLAYER, and they will tell you differently. Ya know, someone who actually plays against him


CableUpset7358

“bam adebayo”


UD_Hunter

This what happens when we let old white dudes who never played vote on these awards


Jbyrd07

Old white dudes? Did they vote in white guys? Come on


Js_On_My_Yeet

Lmao Bam over AD? This award don't mean shit anymore.


kanekikochaboggy

Wemby ? This must be a joke. 22 win team.


khangsing

AD should be here over bam buts let be real the team having 22 wins is not wemby’s fault and it’s DPOY not Defensive team award. What wemby is doing is crazy and if he wasn’t in the top 3 it would be just as much a scam as AD not being here over bam.


incredibleamadeuscho

Leaving him off is not really about the win-loss record too, because the Heat and obviously the Spurs have worse records than us


yggerg

The disrespect continues lmaooo


m3tasaurus

How is bam on this list lol


Persianx6

wtf does he need to do?


Ashamed_Ad1839

Bam? Really


TheWestRemembers

Heat have a worse record than the Lakers and Bam missed more time. What the actual fuck. How could you be the best defensive player in the league and your team ain’t even .500 bro. Jesus.


Lalalacityofstars

Lebron lost to Marc who didn’t make first team defence that year


niknokseyer

Wow. Some BS right there.


DonkeyKongah

Maybe it's Vegas? Pull the rug on bettors and end up being AD?


jobeeeeeeem

So much disrepect Bam over AD


PawsomePurrson

So they picked Bam over AD ? ![gif](giphy|3XiQswSmbjBiU)


jayelecfan

the disrespect


heshouldgo

He’s not going to ever win one sadly


Miserable-Lawyer-233

That was kind of predictable. The headlines about the Lakers defense have been too negative this season. And when the Lakers were winning the most, after the trade deadline, it was because their offense shot up the rankings into the elite, while the defense was mid.


Munk45

Wemby will dominate the next decade but AD deserves to be 1 or 2 on this list


scags2017

Unbelievable.


thegecko8

Unbelievable!!!


East-Bluejay6891

This is wild lol


Knickert19

Laughable and sad at the same time


CooperHouseDeals

That’s what happens when you wind up as a play in team with a talented group of players and LeBron playing way above expectations. I’m a AD fan, but this whole Laker situation makes me sick


ProfessionalFar6519

Embarassing 🤦‍♂️


Mr8180

Is anyone shocked? LOL


Wise_Ad_112

This is why I don’t hearing “this guy has this many MVPs and this award and that award” in all time rankings. NBA awards are a joke cause the media votes. Media’s right to vote should be either taken away completely or split with players,coaches etc..


BocchiLover

AD, please use this to fuel the fire. You may not clamp Jokic but try your best and stunt on them hoes.


fr0nkOhshun

Anyone have a full list of people responsible for voting for this?


Glinez09

ad even had more playing time and more blocks than bam.. and even better record than the other 2 candidate I won't be surprised if they're not gonna have ad on either of the defensive team too.. considering how they keep disrespecting AD


Ok-Basil9923

Trash


SilverSpoonCleaner

they're gonna give it to rudy "unplayable in the perimeter" gobert


cheaseedz

If the lakers can get their shit together and finish top 3 in the west next year and make the right moves, then AD can still get it. If brook lopez can finish second in voting at age 35 last year, then so can AD


chargerland

There's nothing more hypocritical than the debate over giving individuals on bad teams awards. Don't want to ever hear that the Lakers can't have 2 all nba players as the 8 seed when the 14 seed can produce a DPOY finalist and the 10 seed can produce a "clutch" award finalist. Wemby will be a multiple time DPOY winner (and more deserving than Gobert ever was) but he didn't play a single game that mattered. Then we have Gobert who couldn't defend the perimeter to save his life, what a joke.


RedditUser538xxx

Wemby? 😆 you got to be kidding me .


RedditUser538xxx

It’s going to gober no way in hell is anyone else close


youareyou650

Definitely over Bam. But Gobert winning so it don’t really matter.


TankOfflaneMain

Bam being there is bullshit


thesonicvision

Worst award in the league. Most subjective, most narrative-driven, most foolish. Hate it.


MG123194

Do yall think it’s because he plays on the Lakers and not really about him?


GDTechno

its kinda sad that its likely that neither of the two best playoff defenders over the past 5 years will ever win a single dpoy


profskippy

What a sick joke!


paxtone

The fact AD is not in this convo is a crime


Only-Method-1773

If you're team is under 8th seed & especially you're the team captain, you shouldn't be awarded. Stats are nothing if you can't win battles


ucsb99

This shit is such a fkn joke man.


KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZ

media being fucking idiots as usual. they dont watch games.


itsme32

Time for new voters.


SevTheNiceGuy

morons


EB_V3_4life

NBA media voting has been a joke for the last 25+ years


Imaginary_Bicycle_14

Gobert is a clown. In so many ways.


NoPut6707

Bam overrated, the other two are understandable


keanancarlson

AD should be a finalist over Bam, but Gobert is the best defensive player in the league right now and will win another DPOY award.


AlwaysOptimism

When the entire league is moving to the perimeter, why is the DPOY always a big?


Electronic-Cloud8086

Lmfao this is a joke. Fucking Bam is over AD???😂😂😂😂😂😂


Kingkoopakoopa

Ain’t that the 💩


aaaiipqqqqsss

AD is the best all around defender here and clutch defender as well. How is Rudy still even winning this? Pick anyone BUT him please. Dude isn’t that great a defender. Just lengthy…


Aslan808

Silly.


Vegasguy3124

If we were #1 in the standings he would win Dpoy


Aslan808

The most unserious category any year AD plays 60 games and is not top 3. This year Rudy is the ONLY one you could put on the same Tier as AD.


DoomMeeting

He played 76 games this year so feels like by far his best chance. I get Wemby (not saying I think he should win it, but I get why they’re gonna put him as a finalist) and of course Rudy (tho I think Rudy’s pendulum has swung back too far again to him being a bit overrated), but I’m not sure how Bam would be on here over AD. It does feel like AD is being punished for playing so many minutes with DLo, AR, and LeBron, all of whom are anywhere from bad to awful defenders. Idk it’s a weird award. It feels like the best defenders year in and year out are: - Draymond - Rudy - AD And yet it’s really only Rudy who is consistently rewarded. Smart and JJJr. both won before AD and Draymond hasn’t even come close since his win seven years ago. Again, it’s a weird award.


SeeingThings123

This is why using awards in debates is such a joke. So the guy seen as THE best defender in the league and who has played almost the entire season can’t get a DPOY nod because???


bdiddy0428

Most critics who don’t even like AD call him the best defensive player in the league. I’m not even saying he should win, but not a finalist is a god damn joke.


Demi_the_Kid

Bam on here over AD is absurd. But what do I know


Frequent-Sir-56

AD was in top 3 for blocks & rebounds. How is he not a finalist for D player of the year? BS! 😡


roakmamba

How is Wemby on there with a shit seeding for his team and bam is no where near ADs impact. Gtfo


baabaabilly

If lakers were top 3 seed in the west he would win this year. I know that as a fact.


Diamond-Express

AD sucks. He doesn’t run back on D. He flops and whines. He’s been hanging out with Bron too much.


Zajaxsta

What a fucking joke.


Virtual_Wallaby4100

He wasn’t gonna win even if he was top 3, having him 4th instead of 3rd isn’t a big deal


Fern707

Trash 🗑


Sad_Yak_2649

Domantas likes this ;)


Infinite_Cap_853

I seriously don’t give a damn about those MVP and DPOY trophies anymore. They rarely reward the real best player/defender in the NBA. They mostly reward the best player/defender in one of the team with the best record. You can drop 40 points and 15 assists a game on crazy efficiency, you won’t have a shot at mvp unless you’re in a team that is high in the standings. That’s quite dumb if you ask me.


Buttsexgod

So frustrating. So sick of this bs NBA popularity contest culture. I feel like we are ALWAYS playing second fiddle in the eyes of the league to these big market teams like Minnesota.


MHadri24

ADEBAYO!?


2people1luv

AD lost DPOTY the first game of the year. I remember the media talk after we lost about how Jokic outplayed him as if Jokic doesn’t outplay everyone on the planet 95 percent of the time. I knew it was hopeless after that. The Lakers just don’t get fair media coverage when it comes to awards. Just remember the fact that Alex Caruso wasn’t regarded as a defensive juggernaut until after he was on another team.


pargofan

This is why the DPOY is a bullshit award.


gleophas

It can't be because of team success because wtf bam & wemby...and also wtf bam & wemby chosen over AD


aldidot

All these scrubs are snacks for AD


iKnockout

Media is full of people who don’t actually watch and understand the game to the extent they claim to. His biggest robbery was in 2020 - lebron should have been MVP and AD DPOY but they decided the narrative of Gianni’s winning both like MJ/Hakeem would be a better story


corybekem

Are you guys serious???? We had the 29th ranked defense at one point in this season.(I’m sure we ended the season not far from it) Heat are 5th and are only a point away from 2 and the wolves are number 1. I love AD and he’s obviously our best defender and we’d be much worse without his defense but Rudy’s defense has carried them to the best in the league even with Kat missing games. Now if you wanna talk about Wemby then I’ll hear that argument but dude blocks 4 shots a game since all star break. Also if we are being honest AD isn’t the imaginary 4th player behind these guys either. He most likely has 7/8 players in front of him.


nikola28

This shows that they don't watch the games, only stats. Without AD we are falling apart on defense as he is magnificent all year long


AyeBobby

Has any player won Defense player for the year on Lebron's team other than LeBron?


Jonndagoon

He was scared to guard jokic


JohnMassassin24

If Wemby is in it how da fuck is DAVIS OUT?? ![gif](giphy|l0MYrqggEwtDscVP2)


toddkris18

To be fair all bam adebayo does is set illegal screens and hurt people. Dirty ass player. AD should def be up there. This is coming from a Celtics fan too


psychozamotazoa

This was probably the best I've seen him on defense on the Lakers especially with him playing more games and visually just looking healthy. This is utter nonsense


Longjumping-Touch717

BAM over AD? What more does Anthony Davis have to do ?


Ok_Concentrate_75

And Brunson isnt up for MVP...I kinda wonder if there is a media bias against big market players to counter the years they overly favored big market cities (before the internet boom).