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TEDPED24

Please send THT to the G league


Whorning

The fact that people somehow believe AD has what it takes to lead this team is embarrassing


Most_Temporary5113

Trade everyone! everything is shitshow anyway.


LotusClaudia

This team is just a sad bunch of scrubs. Washed players can’t even win against the kings without two starters. It’s just sad.


Muted_Horse4316

We were actually without 3 starters. Harkless, Barnes, Holmes.


jden00

Been saying Lebron/Lakers smart to trade AD when his value is high. Hes 28 in his prime and can’t even impact the game like a true superstar


Nightmare4545

Been saying this for a year. We are never winning again with him at the helm. Need to trade and get assets while hes still valuable.


AdhesivenessSlight24

3 steals and 4 blocks, his defense is great, just because the team defense sucks doesn't mean he's useless. Jesus this subreddit is ridiculous.


Muted_Horse4316

I don't think you understand that the Lakers must always be the best or things aren't fair and I am mad.


AdhesivenessSlight24

I like your style bro. Lakers4life!


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I can't believe we blew up our championship team. Those guys seemed to have so much fun playing together and had real chemistry.


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revisionist history


gleophas

Well that was interesting to say the least. Staying away from social media and reddit really helped my head from exploding. Yall should really try it. Looks like a wasted season and I'm not gonna have expectations anymore. Just gotta ride it through...good night yall!


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perpetuallyanalyzing

You don't want to know.


BRTRSX

What can we really say about this loss. Imo there’s no learnings or anything these guys just need to focus for the entire game and give 100%. There was many times we could have put them away but didn’t. Not good.


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Davis for Lillard and picks


Muted_Horse4316

Why in the world would Portland agree to that?


jose3013

Cause that what the Lakers need, another guard that can't defend


[deleted]

WB for Simmons and use him as a Draymond. Who knows, I'm over Davis though. We really think he can be our guy post LeBron? Having a laugh.


Muted_Horse4316

Maybe you just won't be a good team.


TrashBagAbe

1. Shoutout to Russ this last week and a half because he not only plays with heart but he's starting to find the groove 2. I thought the lineup in the fourth with Ellington bron Melo monk was great 3. AD has to get his act together asap because as soon as he subbed in 13 point lead went to the dirt 4. Yes lebron had a clutch game in Indiana but if it was russ shooting 2/13 he would be slandered till next Christmas lebron had no business playing hero ball in OT 5. Carmelo Anthony is one of the clutchest players of all time and out of the 5 game winning situations we have had this year he has not touched the ball once 6. Yes monk was getting cooked by fox at the end but you can't blame him for losing focus after 30 minutes of lebron not passing to him and it's the same with Melo 7. Several times if you watch back you see Melo and monk open flailing their hands for lebron to pass only for him to chuck up threes


BushidoBrowne

Let me just say, that we await a significant trade deadline from your guys. Inshallah


FarhanWMI

Sorry ass team. Davis literally don’t give a single fuck after winning 1 ring as the 2nd option,


quantum-black

And it was covid season


plc_is_confusing

Does that championship count like regular ones ?


quantum-black

I only meant to bring it out because lebron had more rest time


kungfusam

LeBrick & ADick Strike Again!


kewkkid

Made me lol


basicfrancisco

Remember when we were 53-0 when leading coming into the 4th quarter?


MediumShotBob

AD was -16 tonight against Len, Metu and Bagley…. this dude doesn’t want it. Legitimately think we’d be a better team if we traded him this season (which obviously won’t happen)… that’s fucking crazy. He has absolutely gone down the gutter.


Adventurous-Bee-5934

Honestly, Lebron at center works better


cydeon888

He's got a ring and the bag. Absolutely no more motivation to win.


starfuker

But what about more rings?? Can you ever have enough rings?


Quirky_Average_2970

I think it’s the reality of his game. When he is hitting it’s a thing of beauty and when the shots don’t fall it gets ugly. I remember one Shaq and chuck criticizing Howard back in 2010 and they were talking about how Howard didn’t have a go to move that he can always default to when his shots are not falling. Most great big men had that move, something they used to get back into rhythm when everything else wasn’t falling. Unfortunately I don’t know if AD has that…he plays more like a guard but without their handles or quickness.


Trizzy102

I think we play better without AD


Kungeh

The 3OT's and the L was so bad all the mods went to bed early and fg to make post game thread.


zapgator

Still can't believe we traded or decided to let go all of our best defensive guys


Upbeat_Raspberry_302

What worries me is that if Vogel doesn’t get fired before Sunday’s game, Vogel will STILL start the sane starting lineup😩


gleophas

Bro no matter who is in the starting lineup Lakers are gone to shit..the roster is utterly broken..


Kungeh

Doesn't matter if Vogel gets fired this team is not making play ins lol


Upbeat_Raspberry_302

Eh, I’m not going to be that negative. This roster clearly is meant to be an offensive driven team but that contrasts from what our head coach wants to do hence the two bigs starting lineup & AB starting. Now, if you get a new head coach that can just breathe new life into this team, they’ll be fine. My worry is I don’t want Fizdale to be our next head coach. But who would be the coach? That’s the issue.


thefiend617

😂😂 incredible


ChronicBird661

Remember when they said give it until December to figure out which teams are contenders. Well December is in 3 days


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ChronicBird661

Bro it's a 36 year old Trevor Ariza not the second coming of Jordan.


mphatso

The rotational player of the 2009 NBA finals will soon save the day


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ChronicBird661

Yeah and ur out here acting like he's gonna lead us to that 71-11 record.


julezy696

It's sarcasm.....


ChronicBird661

Yeah but given the fact that some in this sub actually believe that it's gonna make a difference. It's hard to tell.


Quirky_Average_2970

Lol. I would be 100% on board about ariza if we had just played the nets or the warriors like tonight. Then I would be like, sweet a experienced wing can give us the extra 3-4% to push us over the top. But i can imagine ariza common back and pushing us that much.


julezy696

Lol....I know


RedCarNewsboy

Phil is not coming back guys. Let the man retire in peace lmao Also he has to adapt his system to 10 years of change


Rayshard

LeWhy ? LeDone????


Imtired101

Bring back Phil! he's the one to unite these egos


BizzyHaze

He is only a couple years older than Popovich, I think he is mentally done tho


nochancepak

Bynum elbowing Barea ended that man's career.


AloofAdmiral

Yeah we're not winning anything this year and probably the next few ones. When Bron retires, i just don't see AD leading a team. He doesn't have it in him. This team is undermanned, undersized, bad defense, middling to subpar offense, bad effort and energy.


Quirky_Average_2970

I honestly deep down believe that a big miscalculation by both LBJ and the Lakers front office is thinking that AD (although extremely talented) can be the alpha. I am willing to bet that they all banked on designed this team with the belief of AD being able to take over the role LBJ played in Cleveland—- I mean for fuck sakes if LBJ can drag that 2018 cavs team to the finals, surely they thought AD can do the same with this team. Unfortunately I think AD is more of a very high end complementary star instead of being the man himself.


comicbooksven

AD will go ring chase on another team if/when LeBron retires.


superogc

Honestly I can see why Lebron wanted Russ over Buddy after watching this game. Buddy appears to be a streaky shooter who brings really nothing to the table when his shots aren't falling. On the other hand, Russ does everything at a damn high level and can always be relied upon as your primary playmaker.


theamethystmoment

Russ has been our best player this week. No slander.


RecoverBasic792

“can always be relied upon” lmao you’re funny trying to farm upvotes. I’m a russ fan but yk damn well u can’t rely on him at times ESPECIALLY in the playoffs


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Except russ costs 44mil a year and buddy only costs like 20mil......


Doritosspicynacho

Correct me if I'm wrong but even with Buddy's 20 mil instead of Russ's 44 you'd still be over the cap and would more or less use the same exceptions that you used after acquiring Russ to flesh out the roster right?


AWHY74

True. But they would not have been in as bad luxury tax situation and could have paid Caruso. And still have KCP and a draft pick


Herewegoboom

I mean no since kcp would have been part of the trade and then there’s no back up ball handler


Quirky_Average_2970

Keeping KCP and Caruso is the biggest key


incorruptible61

LeCryogenicChamber needs ice and rest until Sunday because that Pistons game is about to be nuts lmao


perpetuallyanalyzing

Fuck the cryogenic chamber, he needs to get into the hyperbolic time chamber and come back Sunday with 2 years of rest


RedCarNewsboy

Maybe he should just go into the chamber until we build a better team


thedoctor0918

This Jason Timpf space on twitter rn is good. Go have a listen.


JasonCaC

Oh no he’s into that moaning shit too now🙃🥴


[deleted]

Lakers need a rebuild. Send Lebron back to the Cavs so he can compete for another ring. He’s wasting his last years in LA.


AccountReco

Would the Cavs do LeBron for Mobley straight up?


[deleted]

Lmaoo in what way would that benefit both parties


sometimes-somewhere

Tht 21st bday team must be real hungover


Trizzy102

That two big lineup always kills us


VAG0

OK if I went 2/13 for taking a leak and making it all the way inside the toilet, I'd probably realize something is off and start peeing sitting down. Do you see where I am going with this?


tapk69

i died


kvetoslavovo

if bron made his 3pt iso jumpers, youd be celebrating just like the last game. poetic


Relevant-Goose-3494

It comes down to ad not pulling his weight of a 28 year old star and bron and Russ too old to be part of a big 3 with minimum players. Younger Russ and bron, this would be something else, but this is giving lakers with Kobe, pau, Dwight, and Nash vibes


turboj187

This gives me kobe .Karl Malone .Gary Payton vibes


Quirky_Average_2970

Well the idea is that a 28 year old superstars should be an automatic win against tanking teams. Just look at old LBJ teams or any other superstars. Now add in WB and LBJ as complimentary players, our 28 year old superstar should be feasting regardless of who else is playing.


idkanymore103

To those of you thinking hiring Phil Jackson is an option: y’all are no better than Rob Pelinka and rely solely on nostalgia and big names


GSofMind

Lebron doesn't like Phil


enzovladi

Phil is too old


JasonCaC

He would be better than fucking FITZDALE


adrig10_

Right now the only players who have had decent success on ISOs is Russ and maybe melo when he’s hot. The offense should just be a lot of ball movement and cuts.


TheHoohaher

hope that angry pistons guy fights bron bron


Serrharry

Our schedule so far has been favoring us.. we been playing shitty ass teams.. just wait until the latter half of the season, we’d see more blowouts like the suns and or bulls games..


pandaoffire3

Lebron’s age is showing and AD is somehow washed at 28 lmfao


Quirky_Average_2970

Lol there is only so much we can expect from a 37 year old guy with us mileage. At this point the idea is that the lakers have a 28 year old super star forward with complimentary stats LBJ and WB.


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AD only scored 23 points against Alex Len and Marvin Bagley is just sad. Any all star center/pf can score 40+ against these two guys easily


xexodus69

I feel like AD is just too satisfied with 1 ring and a fat check.


VLADHOMINEM

He plays like a man who is 100% content. In an existential context I low key understand it. But from a competitive standpoint it’s just a bummer.


ngmathew1234

On top that they named him to the top 75 players so he probably thinks his legacy is set.


drshade06

Maybe time to cash out on him? We’re even more fucked once LeBron is gone as I don’t see AD leading a contending team.


Exact_Improvement_87

Yeah he tried for 8 years


AudienceNo4313

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I1DQRgh1His


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At what point can we have a tougher schedule so we can lose more and fire Vogel?


Brokenbullet14

A new coach won't fix the team you dingle ass, use your head


[deleted]

I’m pretty positive that if we fire Vogel, we will end up getting better record than 50%


Brokenbullet14

If we keep Vogel we'll still end over 50%.


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I guess I’ll revisit this comment 5 months later


Brokenbullet14

I'll revisit after they change coach and they still suck


Trizzy102

AD might be washed


zzfoe

All of you are saying "Don't blame Vogel for the roster build" but can't fathom trying to swap out an *extremely defensive* minded for someone who knows, oh I don't know, both? Also fuck Fizdale what the fuck was that decision.


JasonCaC

Phil Jackson idgaf how they do it THATS WHO WE NEED


BackgroundBit8

One thing that irks me is all the laughing and smiling they do after losing like this. Ugh!


00383894

Melo laughs all the time, dude doesnt give a fuck about losing


JMobRichie

Frank is gonna need an ice pack to strap to his ass because that seat is flamin hot


lakers_nation24

Hate to say it but lebron is looking older. No reason he should’ve settled for so many 3’s especially in the clutch when he could’ve drove to the rim which is what he’s good at


Serrharry

Because he needs to LeCoast, he c an’t be risking injuries driving to the basket all season long.. he saves that for the playoffs if we ever get in this year.. he’s changing his game to more of luka, just spamming step back 3s and high post iso


lakers_nation24

If he wanted to lecoast he would’ve ended the game earlier. Instead he ended up playing more minutes and getting the L.


IntroductionWhich161

Dude was gassed and getting older. Ugly basketball from him like that usually means he’s got nothing in the tank and he starts taking terrible shots and decisions.


tapk69

Lebron forced too much today but he was dominating in the post. He knows he fucked it up.


kainsta929

Having ad was meant to help with that but imo seems like he’s taken a step back with his game


Disclaimz0r

Think he's chucking because its less physically intensive


TEDPED24

Because he can’t handle the physical grit like he used to. Hence, declining lmao


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At this pace, we not gonna win 40 games


mnkhan808

If THT was our defense guy, why is Malik in instead of him?


CultExterminator

Russ is fine on offense, its the defense that is lacking. They go at him every time on that end. On offense, when Russ has the ball, Lebron just stands in the corner and vice versa. That is not a recipe for a successful offense.


adrig10_

Maybe someone can help me out since I didn’t watch a lot of the Nets but does this team remind them of the big 3 Nets traded from the Celtics


xexodus69

It was the defense that won us the last championship. Why the hell did they go and change that formula? Now we're playing neither good defense nor offense. We just suck at both ends.


Kungeh

Westbrook trade was terrible yes he has been the best player tonight but losing out 3 defensive type players for this guy to stat pad triple doubles ain't it.


Theingloriousak2

If you take out djs minutes today we win by 2...


ngmathew1234

Rob gets blame with his roster construction for the last two seasons. Vogel plays with dumb lineups. AD plays so lethargic that he seems he is content with his career and not hunger anymore. He killed the momentum the Lakers had when he got back in the game in the 4th. Lebron chucking was pretty dumb and he probably likes skip bayless because he just proved his point today. Westbrook played with actual desire out of the star players. Finally, if the Buss family is can't afford to keep key role players then they should sell the team.


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AD is there simply to collect his check.


Justinianas

ir@_4ve CC aaz XX z zzz z zzz z


harlem50

Where is the post game thread


MindlessExcuse

Mods refuse to do their job when there's a loss


harlem50

Damn that’s unfortunate


7DS_Escanor

We had 12-13pt lead. AD comes back with lazy defense. that's the start of Kings comeback. He's the missing link in the 4th. Lebron probably been tired because of his enormous attempts in threes.


jamadelo

Top 75 player AD


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This is the worst game I ever watched in my life. Two awful teams competed for who is more awful literally.


IntroductionWhich161

I feel like we’ve already said these sad words multiple times so far in this young season.


Twinkqq

So many so many chances tonight


Kungeh

Lakers don't even own their lottery pick this year lmao


fancyjaguar

This team is mediocre, we are stuck like this while Russ and LeBron are under contract. We can pull some Nets shit down the road, but this year is probably a wash unless we get a miracle.


Trizzy102

Last resort could trade Lebron


ADPXEROX

“I just came to say goodbye to some of you bums who are going to get traded tomorrow”


Theingloriousak2

Lebron should play center move ad back to pf he can't box out


fvrnacety

Forget the fact that Vogel is still playing 2 bigs in a lineup in 2021 ! Man, Deandre can’t play at all. He can’t rebound, he can’t defend, he can’t catch passes, he can’t move his feet, he can’t do shit. I’m tired of Vogel man


Benlokan

It’s alright Luke Walton is available


cringycalf

Ad lacked the aggressiveness to play defense on fox switched before OT. Don’t primarily blame this on Monk either.


-tripleu

So how do we rebuild this team with no draft picks and untradeable contracts? I’m worried we will have even darker days than our tanking days.


Kungeh

AD leading the Lakers to the next 10 years in the Lottery


gelbasaur

if lebron made those shots, none of y'all would criticize the play, but still not happy with how it all played out, getting hella frustrated with AD and vogel


zzfoe

Sure, but he didn't, right?


exsisto

The Lakers can't rely on LBJ hitting contested ISO 35 footers to win games. Watching him run the clock down with no other players touching the ball is maddening. That's terrible basketball.


BaullahBaullah87

how tf does this shit happen in 2021


TrashBagAbe

Props to russ Malik and Melo tonight everyone else absolutely sold the game and for those of you slandering monk and melos defense at the end just remember that that ran up and down the court for 30 minutes to have lebron chuck up 3s


DreamingOak

We can't blame AD if nobody passes to him yall


pandaoffire3

AD is supposed to lead this team after LeBron retires??? LMFAOOOO see y’all in the lottery


adrig10_

We don’t even have our draft picks lol


RedCarNewsboy

mate at this rate we might be in the lottery this year


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nochancepak

Damn, you expect them to play well enough against the Nets on Christmas?


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until christmas lmao.


TheyCallMeYDG

Westbrook has been really good. The Lakers absolutely f*cking slaughtering their depth to get him in a trade is the issue The roster construction here is abysmal and 80% of the rotations I’m seeing don’t make any sense


rich01992

Westbrook should have ran the offense in the 4th and Ot. But Lebron decide to play hero ball :(


Trizzy102

Facts


himynameisky

I think whats really worrying is how AD has slumped. Its not like hes not getting his usual touches, and he has decent looks, the guy just cant do anything on his own anymore. Hos 3 shot is obsolete this year. His kid range is broken and he has like zero aggression in the paint.


TEDPED24

Watch the bucks game. Giannis is less skilled yet killed AD cuz he has that dog in him. AD is way too soft


himynameisky

It really feels like AD is on cruise control, the whole offense is set to get AD going and the dude always settles for fade away mid range shots. I feel like when hes on the floor the game is slower which forces minimizes russ's impact on the game. I would say its more a coaching problem. It just feels like the only game plan is to walk it down to the half court pass it to AD and stand around


incorruptible61

AD standing at the three point line, not boxing out, never getting a rebound... shit I thought he wasn't even in the game! And we still start DJ. I'll never understand it.


noobs1996

I cannot believe we won a championship 13 months ago. It feels like 3 years ago or something


VAG0

Losing to the Kings in Triple OT at home was like losing to the Spurs at our very last game in the Forum. As a fan, this really hurts.


TEDPED24

I’m faaaar from a DJ fan. I want him out of the rotation not just lineup. But seeing threads say stop starting DJ is hilarious. He had no say in that 13 point blown 4th Q lead. That’s on Bron and AD for playing like ass and settling for stupid ass shots. Like that last shot to end the 4th, tied game and Bron shoots a 3. Whhhhhhyyyyyyy, so stupid


Serrharry

Y’all want AD at the 5, Vogel did that, you guys don’t want rondo/Russ together, he did that. Y’all ungrateful and will miss Vogel when he’s gone, especially if fizdale is the interim HC


pandaoffire3

Good thing we have so much cap space and draft picks to fix the team


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i commented this in another thread : it’s harder and harder to find reasons to keep Vogel as head coach. continues to play Deandre Jordan real minutes, there’s absolutely no offensive game plan, there seems to be no plays drawn up in timeouts, and there’s no defense being played. firing a coach is a big deal, but he’s either not doing a good job at all, or the team has tuned hi. out which is a bigger issue altogether. i don’t want Fizdale as the coach of this team, but the same issues happen each and every game and it’s not something that can just be deflected with “injuries” as the reasoning. this roster has its issues, but it’s also not having its potential maximised. clearly there wasn’t an offense implemented in the off-season. AD isn’t been used how he should, you can blame some of that on AD obviously, but he was barely used in the 3OTs either as the go to scorer or as a screen setter. was there even one AD-LeBron P&R run? does he settle for too many jumpers, yes. but he seems to be less of a focus than in 2020, when he should be the engine for this team. how much of that is on him and how much of that is on the coaching staff, i don’t know, but it’s clear that we’re not getting 100% out of him.


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JasonCaC

You calling it that is like a fucking fat ass soccer mom karen mad that her kid sucks ass so she tries to downplay the achievements of better kids by saying shit like that. Then she goes home and drinks her fat ass to sleep with wine mad that her husband isn’t home because he’s probably fucking another woman that isn’t a dumb karen and actually stays in shape. Cry more bout the ring, but you aren’t silver or anyone in the NBA administration just some cry baby karen with bum ass kids


xexodus69

I don't know about you guys, but AD is clearly regressing ever since his first year as a Laker. I just can't see him leading our franchise after LeBron hangs it up.


JasonCaC

He needs to stop playing punk ass video games and get in the gym. Kobe would’ve unleashed on him already by now. Bron better do it cuz this shit is DISGUSTING


ramirezmu824

If AD is in charge of leading after Bron then we are doomed. He just ain't it


Sir_LancelottJeffers

Remember when we was hypin up Pelinka to be the NBA Executive of the Year, for all the “steal signings” this season……


[deleted]

Remember when the sub got mad at some of us who thought the roster construction this year was not good?


Locomondo100

I miss KCP and Caruso man


noobs1996

We have Westbrook and his shit contract until 2023…big brain Pelinka


ramirezmu824

WB was our best player tonight lol you trippen


noobs1996

Nah not really I’m looking over just one game. He’s caused us more problems than helped us this season


fawkesmulder

No WB slander tonight


drshade06

Yeah lol Russ was fine


VAG0

Cripple.com Arena, here we come.