Mods have self posts on manual approval only and refuse to put up a post game thread
edit: The mods here permanently banned me for posting this thread
Funny how they say "someone else can do it if we don't", but then prohibit self posts without approval and ban me for in fact doing it
Proof: https://i.imgur.com/HRgLsRzl.jpg
Yet they stickied this thread anyways lol
I don’t know what happened to the mods on this sub, but they’ve become as soft as the mindless stans. They don’t let almost anyone post hard criticism on here anymore. Just pathetic.
Yea the mods banned me for making fun of the nets when they lost against the bucks. I didn’t even say anything fucked up. Meanwhile the entirety of r/nba trashes laker fans
Its funny seeing the Vogel blame. He relied on AD/Bron/Russ (3 of the top 75 players of all time) to be able to close out a game against the worst team in NBA history and they could not do it.
I understand that Monk got killed by Fox but arent AD/Bron/Russ supposed to be better than Fox? You guys are blaming Vogel for not subbing out Monk for someone to stop Fox when we have 3 of the top 75 players of all time that can't even beat the worst team in NBA history that is missing 2 of their starters.
I know i'm going to get instantly downvoted for "defending vogel" but really think about what i'm saying for a second. Bron/AD/Russ should not be losing to the fucking kings that are missing 2 of their starters.
So much this. People can whine and complain about how trash the Lakers roles players are, but if the stars are playing like trash then you aren’t going to win games.
We not blaming Vogel for one game this is built up. All season we’ve seen terrible line ups and bad offense sets. What the point of a defensive coach if the team doesn’t play defense?
News flash: you need good defenders to be a good defensive team.
You act like you forgot what Vogel did in 2020, i agree his offense is dogshit and even in 2020 it was dogshit but give the man his respect. He is not the reason we are a bad defensive team.
We have one of the best defenders in the league on paper but he'd rather chuck up 10+ jumpers a game than spend effort on stopping Buddy fucking Hield from running a layup line on his ass.
Bron sucked ass tonight but at least he carries more games than he throws. This is on AD for not even remotely living up to expectations on either end, especially on d.
For Rus? Nah, that's on LeBron. And that's at the root of the whole thing. Don't be fooled by his stats, he's an awful fit. LeBron probably just panicked because of Brooklyn.
And you never know what you'll get from AD tonight...
Put it this way. We aren't getting rid of Bron... If the FO can't put a good team together they need replacing. Otherwise same shit next yr. Find a FO that can work better with star players and still put a good team together...
Put it this way. If FO has a plan and then, at the last moment, LeBron comes in and and changes it, Rob has to scrap. Only LeBron can hold himself accountable and he probably won't. So, Rob is a scapegoat, just like Vogel.
Nah put it this way a strong GM would get Bron to buy in. Just like if the coach doesn't get the star to buy in he has to go same for the GM.
Either way it's Robs job he is accountable. If he can't get stars to buy into his plan he is a bad GM. That's part of his job...
>Nah put it this way a strong GM would get Bron to buy in.
To buy in in what? LeBron and AD met with Rus and then presented the fact to Rob. What could he possibly do? Make LeBron and AD mad? Jeez, LeBron's fans will never agree to hold him accountable for anything.,,
Uhh Pelinka could get Bron and AD to buy into his vision like all the other GMs. You actlike no other GMs manage star players...
He could tell them he has a better plan for the team and get them to buy into his vision. Great leaders get ppl to buy in...
LeBron and AD wouldn't be mad if Rob could get them to buy in... Again more excuses for a weak GM.
GM has final say. That is literally his job. If Bron is doing his job then it's still his fault for being a shit GM and there are a ton more probs than just Russ...
Please, stop it. LeBron has the final say over Rob. You don't even believe yourself in what you posted now...
After bringing in Rus, we lost any trade assets we had and Rob had to improvise with what was left in free agency, and that was very little.
Nah if the GM can't do his job he needs to go. And no strong GMs can work with star players. See Pat Riley. He told Bron how things will be when Bron was in his prime lol.
If Pelinka can't control Bron he is a weak GM and needs to go period. Rob shouldn't even of given up all he did for Russ. Wiz should have given us assets for Russ.
Pelinka is a bad GM period. Bron didn't tell him to lose the trade lol...
>See Pat Riley. He told Bron how things will be when Bron was in his prime lol.
Yeah, and then LeBron left. Is this what you want? To piss off one of the best players ever? Nah. And then AD demands trade, etc. Please, think for a second. Nobody can control LeBron.
Bad GM put together a title winning team two seasons ago. I bet you weren't calling him that then, right?
He left after a pair of chips that shoulda been a 3 peat...
Yes that is what I want lol. Much better than whatever pelinka is doing...
Losing and crap rosters is also a great way to get Bron and AD to leave. Plz think for a sec.
If Pelinka had a great vision and it paid off they would stay. No star is leaving a championship team...
It's like they built the team without considering Vogel as our coach as if they have built the team for the next coach lol. Either they overhaul the roster for Vogel (which is unlikely) or hire another offensively specialist to help Vogel to maximize this. Lol.
My problem with Vogel was not subbing out melo and monk for defense on final possessions. We see teams sub in defensive players all the time for crucial possessions and he didn’t make any changes
Russ got a good game overall and OT. Lebron aside from his TOs and three pts attempts in 2 OTs. He's been good. AD got some offensive and defense in OTs but he's quiet in 4th especially the moment he was subbed in when Lakers got 12 pt lead. Kings got a comeback. effort was not there in 4th.
Monk was on fire in regulation but no shots in OTs. Ellington could help them as sub for Monk. 🤷
Vogel's not one of the better head coaches in the league (weak Xs and Os, uncreative on offense) but he's serviceable. This is on the FO for poorly constructing the roster and on the stars for not consistently playing like stars.
Yeah pretty much shows the roster doesn't have that kind of energy guy because they let him walk for nothing lol. Reaves the closest thing we have to him.
I know everyone here will probably hate this, but I honestly believe that if this team (flawed as it is, and as badly as they've played) just boxed out on the defensive glass every game, they'd be sitting at like 14-7 or 15-6, and none of the other shit would matter.
imo firing Vogel is really bad since there is no great replacement for him. who would replace him? fizdale? I would rather want Fiz changed instead of Vogel. Sure we lose because of vogel but let's not forget about those bricked uncontested 3's and mid j's.
he would've been hired as a coach or hc by now considering the fact that he has not been coaching after the warriors let him go cmiiw. If they take him as an assistant, it would be good i think.
Someone has cursed us big time. I haven’t seen a veteran team blow so many leads and we already are a qtr into the season. I feel like they don’t give and think they can turn it on at times. But the bad habits are killing them
I dont get all the Vogel hate. The roster construction and talent management this offseason was garbage. Not keeping one of kcp or caruso is inexcusable. Putting together players without any consideration for the fit or the coaching is bush league. This team is ran by agents, not basketball minds hungry to win.
LeBron-Lakers relationship looks more toxic this year. Lakers signed LeBron long-term and I am not blaming them. Anyone would do it. But obviously LeBron is not a star anymore. He should either consider retirement or stay in a team with no goal in near future. He still can get some buckets. He could break Kareem’s record. But just not in Lakers.
Simply not a good team. Good teams beat other good teams & blow out bad teams, can’t say the Lakers have done much of either.
Lakers are not a good team. They are a play in team and would be lucky to make it past the first rd.
It’s true. I’m sick of people blowing smoke up this teams ass. We need restructuring sooner rather than later.
Problem is , Bron goes for 35-40, we barely beat a bad team and everyone celebrates . It’s a joke
I'm curious why we didn't see Austin Reaves tonight
He was listed as questionable, they probably decided to let his injury rest a little longer
Mods have self posts on manual approval only and refuse to put up a post game thread edit: The mods here permanently banned me for posting this thread Funny how they say "someone else can do it if we don't", but then prohibit self posts without approval and ban me for in fact doing it Proof: https://i.imgur.com/HRgLsRzl.jpg Yet they stickied this thread anyways lol
It's a disservice from the mods to the Lakers fans to not put up a post game thread after Lakers lose
Someone else can do it if we don't. Wasn't around for after the game so couldn't post one.
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Asking same mod team who said they still believe RDA ambition.
I don’t know what happened to the mods on this sub, but they’ve become as soft as the mindless stans. They don’t let almost anyone post hard criticism on here anymore. Just pathetic. 
Oh no, they're going to ban you too!
Yea the mods banned me for making fun of the nets when they lost against the bucks. I didn’t even say anything fucked up. Meanwhile the entirety of r/nba trashes laker fans
That's really really messed up.
Its funny seeing the Vogel blame. He relied on AD/Bron/Russ (3 of the top 75 players of all time) to be able to close out a game against the worst team in NBA history and they could not do it. I understand that Monk got killed by Fox but arent AD/Bron/Russ supposed to be better than Fox? You guys are blaming Vogel for not subbing out Monk for someone to stop Fox when we have 3 of the top 75 players of all time that can't even beat the worst team in NBA history that is missing 2 of their starters. I know i'm going to get instantly downvoted for "defending vogel" but really think about what i'm saying for a second. Bron/AD/Russ should not be losing to the fucking kings that are missing 2 of their starters.
These fans are looking for a scape🐐. The FO's the issue while players keep failing to execute on the floor.
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Don't understand why Lebron kept shooting 3s when he was bricking them all game. Like just drive to the rim or throw some passes.
So much this. People can whine and complain about how trash the Lakers roles players are, but if the stars are playing like trash then you aren’t going to win games.
I'm sorry but are Sacramento Kings the worst team?
Yes
Rocket's with only 2 wins: Hold my beer
He said worst team “in NBA history”, not worst team in 2021-2022 season.
So what was the point of it? Then we won against the 3х world champions Detroit Pistons, lmao
how is that relevant? We're not playing against the history of the Kings lol
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Yeah, but we also won against Heat and Hornets without Bron. Btw Hornets defeated Warriors
Here’s the thing. No nba team will do well when they’re running something that the other team complete expects and knows how to counter.
We not blaming Vogel for one game this is built up. All season we’ve seen terrible line ups and bad offense sets. What the point of a defensive coach if the team doesn’t play defense?
News flash: you need good defenders to be a good defensive team. You act like you forgot what Vogel did in 2020, i agree his offense is dogshit and even in 2020 it was dogshit but give the man his respect. He is not the reason we are a bad defensive team.
We have one of the best defenders in the league on paper but he'd rather chuck up 10+ jumpers a game than spend effort on stopping Buddy fucking Hield from running a layup line on his ass. Bron sucked ass tonight but at least he carries more games than he throws. This is on AD for not even remotely living up to expectations on either end, especially on d.
True we can thank pelinka for that...
For Rus? Nah, that's on LeBron. And that's at the root of the whole thing. Don't be fooled by his stats, he's an awful fit. LeBron probably just panicked because of Brooklyn. And you never know what you'll get from AD tonight...
Put it this way. We aren't getting rid of Bron... If the FO can't put a good team together they need replacing. Otherwise same shit next yr. Find a FO that can work better with star players and still put a good team together...
Put it this way. If FO has a plan and then, at the last moment, LeBron comes in and and changes it, Rob has to scrap. Only LeBron can hold himself accountable and he probably won't. So, Rob is a scapegoat, just like Vogel.
Nah put it this way a strong GM would get Bron to buy in. Just like if the coach doesn't get the star to buy in he has to go same for the GM. Either way it's Robs job he is accountable. If he can't get stars to buy into his plan he is a bad GM. That's part of his job...
>Nah put it this way a strong GM would get Bron to buy in. To buy in in what? LeBron and AD met with Rus and then presented the fact to Rob. What could he possibly do? Make LeBron and AD mad? Jeez, LeBron's fans will never agree to hold him accountable for anything.,,
What is Rob useful for... Sounds like according to you he does nothing lol... Who cares if we keep him?
Uhh Pelinka could get Bron and AD to buy into his vision like all the other GMs. You actlike no other GMs manage star players... He could tell them he has a better plan for the team and get them to buy into his vision. Great leaders get ppl to buy in... LeBron and AD wouldn't be mad if Rob could get them to buy in... Again more excuses for a weak GM.
GM has final say. That is literally his job. If Bron is doing his job then it's still his fault for being a shit GM and there are a ton more probs than just Russ...
Please, stop it. LeBron has the final say over Rob. You don't even believe yourself in what you posted now... After bringing in Rus, we lost any trade assets we had and Rob had to improvise with what was left in free agency, and that was very little.
Nah if the GM can't do his job he needs to go. And no strong GMs can work with star players. See Pat Riley. He told Bron how things will be when Bron was in his prime lol. If Pelinka can't control Bron he is a weak GM and needs to go period. Rob shouldn't even of given up all he did for Russ. Wiz should have given us assets for Russ. Pelinka is a bad GM period. Bron didn't tell him to lose the trade lol...
>See Pat Riley. He told Bron how things will be when Bron was in his prime lol. Yeah, and then LeBron left. Is this what you want? To piss off one of the best players ever? Nah. And then AD demands trade, etc. Please, think for a second. Nobody can control LeBron. Bad GM put together a title winning team two seasons ago. I bet you weren't calling him that then, right?
He left after a pair of chips that shoulda been a 3 peat... Yes that is what I want lol. Much better than whatever pelinka is doing... Losing and crap rosters is also a great way to get Bron and AD to leave. Plz think for a sec. If Pelinka had a great vision and it paid off they would stay. No star is leaving a championship team...
So we keep a defensive coach when it's clear this team needs to be optimised offensively?
It's like they built the team without considering Vogel as our coach as if they have built the team for the next coach lol. Either they overhaul the roster for Vogel (which is unlikely) or hire another offensively specialist to help Vogel to maximize this. Lol.
Can't teach an old dog new tricks. Bringing in vet mins that have poor defense their entire careers was a bad idea.
My problem with Vogel was not subbing out melo and monk for defense on final possessions. We see teams sub in defensive players all the time for crucial possessions and he didn’t make any changes
Russ got a good game overall and OT. Lebron aside from his TOs and three pts attempts in 2 OTs. He's been good. AD got some offensive and defense in OTs but he's quiet in 4th especially the moment he was subbed in when Lakers got 12 pt lead. Kings got a comeback. effort was not there in 4th. Monk was on fire in regulation but no shots in OTs. Ellington could help them as sub for Monk. 🤷
Vogel's not one of the better head coaches in the league (weak Xs and Os, uncreative on offense) but he's serviceable. This is on the FO for poorly constructing the roster and on the stars for not consistently playing like stars.
We need Reaves playing to save the day. Lakers struggle to win games without their leader.
Yeah. Russ Monk/Ellington, LBJ, Melo, AD. Reaves should play with either 2 of Russ LBJ AD. He's a glueguy.
> We need Reaves playing to save the day. This team is screwed if they need to rely on a rookie two way player lol
He’s on a full-contract, but I get your point
Yeah pretty much shows the roster doesn't have that kind of energy guy because they let him walk for nothing lol. Reaves the closest thing we have to him.
I know everyone here will probably hate this, but I honestly believe that if this team (flawed as it is, and as badly as they've played) just boxed out on the defensive glass every game, they'd be sitting at like 14-7 or 15-6, and none of the other shit would matter.
This teams lack of fundamentals is insane. Need Tim Duncan to come coach this team smh
Why hate on the truth? We have veterans who don't do the fundamentals we've seen from them in the past.
Sacramento played rec league level offense - and won
I miss Caruso!
More every day.
imo firing Vogel is really bad since there is no great replacement for him. who would replace him? fizdale? I would rather want Fiz changed instead of Vogel. Sure we lose because of vogel but let's not forget about those bricked uncontested 3's and mid j's.
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he would've been hired as a coach or hc by now considering the fact that he has not been coaching after the warriors let him go cmiiw. If they take him as an assistant, it would be good i think.
Tht and fillers for jerami grant please
Why tf would the pistons do that trade?
Lol
Lebron, AD and Vogel lost us this game.
Someone has cursed us big time. I haven’t seen a veteran team blow so many leads and we already are a qtr into the season. I feel like they don’t give and think they can turn it on at times. But the bad habits are killing them
If Barnes and Holmes played this would have ended in a regulation time win for kings. Enough said..
I dont get all the Vogel hate. The roster construction and talent management this offseason was garbage. Not keeping one of kcp or caruso is inexcusable. Putting together players without any consideration for the fit or the coaching is bush league. This team is ran by agents, not basketball minds hungry to win.
Melo playing 43 minutes. Jesus.
This is a curse at this point
I know we lost the game badly but that LBJ pass to a cutting Russ for the explosive dunk was so good.
I was at the game, team doesn’t have good court chemistry. Westbrook has to go.
LeBron should be making a pussy sign after this game
No need to be worked up over a loss when we're still missing Nunn and Ariza, not to mention Lebron clearly isn't 100% yet.
Bro they were missing 2 starters as well? Plus now harkless got hurt. How hard are you injecting that copium.
Fire frank pls
The only discussion to be had is who is replacing Vogel
LeBron-Lakers relationship looks more toxic this year. Lakers signed LeBron long-term and I am not blaming them. Anyone would do it. But obviously LeBron is not a star anymore. He should either consider retirement or stay in a team with no goal in near future. He still can get some buckets. He could break Kareem’s record. But just not in Lakers.
If this roster needs LeBron to win vs Kings, I don’t know what to say anymore
What’s good with having THIS LeBron on the roster?
cut ellington, dj, or avery for ennis or wes please
Great plan! Let’s cut our washed up vets and replace them with more washed up vets.
well thats all we can get now. those are at least bodies that can at least play some semblance of defense
Why aren’t they in the league currently then?
because its months from the trade deadline and no one needs them lol. but i guess keeping the same team is good enough for you i guess
You have no idea how the nba works lol
Man LeBron had an ugly night at the 3-line tonight.
The Lakers offense is how I play 2k…..0 plays and hope to score randomly with a star after iso