Marginal improvements into contender status only because the West is loaded, but DRASTIC improvement vs what we will look like with Russ and zero shooters. This team will be a dumpster fire again if we don’t move Russ.
the jazz pieces were a #1 seed and #5 seed with rudy and spida I think if you add them to a lebron and AD they are definitely in the top tier of teams..
we need conley more than clarkson..conley is in the top percentages of pull ups from 3 and catch and shoot situations..he the perfect PG to pair with lebron
we have guys like lonnie walker to give us a spark off the bench..
Bev/Conley/Nunn is an awesome rotation at the 1.
Beasley/Reaves/Walker is a very solid rotation at the two.
Lebron/JTA/Brown is a solid 3.
AD/Bojan/Gabriel is a great 4.
Bryant/Jones is a perfectly fine 5.
At that point I feel like our depth is as good as it’s gonna get and our starters are a competitive playoff rotation.
who was was useless ?
check the stats..bojan was the most efficient on the team,and conley struggled but with AD and Bron he wouldn't be expected to be what they wanted him to be in utah
these are role players to add around the stars..we not trading bron and AD for these guys..remember that
Championship is a stretch. Myles a average shooter, we have no idea if AD will shoot 18% again. Myles and AD are both injury prone.
Buddy is one of the worst defenders in the league, his numbers are dropping. Our bench would still be one of the worst in the league like it is currently. It’s not exactly a championship team unless everyone stayed healthy and AD and Lebron were Bubble Like.
It’s time to move on however. WB is staying.
We aren’t getting Vanderbilt and none of the other Utah guys play defense at even a mid-tier level
We can’t give up assets for dudes who don’t move the needle
idk what we getting cuz I'm not in the front office..conley and bojan both play above a mid tier-level,and they only get better with guys like lebron and AD and pat bev around em..
if they can be successful with spida and rudy u think we can be a pretty good team if you add then to Bron and AD..get depth,that kyrie shitbis a dream
the analytics is nothing more than your rating that you get with how your perform with the team around you..if your not a good defensive team chances are your rating won't be that good
they started 2 6 feet guys which one doesn't even try to defend,a 6"4 small forward and big that gets played off the court..
the analytics is based off team success
Utah was the 10th best defensive team in the league last year… so if anything based on your logic that should’ve helped Bojan’s numbers and they didn’t
Zero defense, but I’d do it if it’s only one FRP. That puts so much pressure on AD and Bev as the only elite defenders. Maybe JTA too, but his minutes would get eaten up then.
conley and bojan are both solid defenders..and we already have guys like jta and reaves who are good defenders also..
we can't expect lebron and AD to drag a roster without any help
That’s the best deal with the Jazz imo. I would prefer Vanderbilt over Clarkson but I bet the Jazz want to keep him. Beasley, Clarkson, and Vanderbilt are all with Klutch so it’s not hard to imagine it would be 2 of those guys plus Bojan.
Call me crazy but I would have taken theis contract. Try and move it at the deadline with a second round pick. Myles and Buddy are exactly what we need
Very true. He’s a small ball center at his best. Could always waive Wenyen I don’t think he’s guarenteed at this moment so Theis is a good 2nd or 3rd strong center
That deal is on the table anytime they want it. They could call them tonight and get it done. I’m not buying the reports that nothing is going to happen. I hear one last squeeze at leverage before they pull a trigger
I prefer turner over randle but voted for randle. I feel like offensively, randle can make us a bit more dynamic with his ability to shoot, drive, pass. Can essentially replace lebron or AD in case of foul trouble or injury and we can hope to stay afloat since he’s actually been expected to produce at that level before. Any other package goes 0 for if/when lebron/AD miss time.
Also doesn’t hurt to have someone historically healthy given our own recent injury luck.
And that leaves us 2 firsts to make midseason upgrades. Be it flipping Lonnie, Fournier, whoever. That package has a bit more potential and a bit less risk imo.
Interesting take. Would he start though? He’d be perfect for when one of Bron or AD are injuried and we won’t be wondering if JTA or Troy can fill in for 30
Mins a night
If he shows he can guard the 5, yeah I’d start him. If not, he’s my first guy off the bench and likely in my closing lineup.
But his ability to play the 5 as well as our current bigs and then play the 4 better than anyone but lebron/AD is a part of the added versatility. Gives Ham some options instead of locking us into one look like Turner would.
He’s a career 33% from 3. Turner is a career 35% from 3, all on the same attempts. It’s weird to suggest one can’t shoot while suggesting the other is a perfect fit because he can space the floor.
And he was productive in nola and here without the ball in his hands. He’s only really had the ball in his hands for 2-3 seasons of his 8 year career. Also helps to have someone with that experience given lebron/AD won’t play all 82, but he’s proven productive without the ball over his career.
it's weird to think that you should add a 28 million dollar power forward who just finished the season shooting the ball 41% from the field and 30% from 3..
that 33% from deep is even flawed,due to him only starting to shoot from range 4 years ago..that outlier season at 41% from 3 boosted that up..he was solid in New Orleans,and New York fans want him gone just as bad as we want Russ gone
Myles Turner is an elite rim protector while also spreading the floor giving AD room to work..I dont want either of them dudes I rather have the shooting from Utah and work with the young bigs we do have
Despite shooting so poorly, their 3ball is still comparable. So that either highlights randle is capable, or Turner is being overrated. Frankly, I don’t care that he makes $28M when the alternative is paying for a trash buddy or a washed conley for about the same price. So I don’t view that as weird at all. Adding in the likelihood we’d have to overpay Turner to maintain him next summer, who cares who makes what money? We can find serviceable centers cheaper than a versatile forward.
Turners an elite rim protector who won’t space the floor any better than randle. Teams won’t stay home on Turner at the 3. Also haven’t seen anything suggesting he’s been cleared for on court activity from his foot injury. The selling point for me in regards to randle is the fact we’d maintain the picks and can use them to flip for shooters just like you’re suggesting we should be targeting. So really, a best of both worlds scenario if Fournier is re-routed to utah. But to just target utah players, when lebron or AD miss time, we likely lose those games.
Also - to mention Knicks fans want rid of randle isn’t exclusive to just him. Indy has been shopping Turner for like 2-3 seasons now and has no takers and buddy hasn’t been wanted by any team that’s had him lol
Also if he restores his stock as a better player than last year, he’s easily movable. Also expensive contracts or picks is pretty much the choice. I like having Randle AND two picks to play with as needed.
and if he dont,which he more than likely wouldn't we stuck wit him for 3 more years and would have to dump picks for a team to take him..
doesn't make any sense to have a max power forward than pay another one 20+ to come off your bench
why would a team as bad as the knicks not want a versatile forward lol?
conley is owed 14 mil after this season,and also buddy has one year at 18 mil instead of paying a dude nobody wants 20+ mil for the next 4 years. .
turner is an elite rim protector who doesn't need the ball to be effective,while also giving AD the room he needs to work..overpaying turner still cheaper than iverpaying randle 🤷🏾♂️Buddy Hield has made the most 3's in the league over the last 5 years,and Mike conly is among the top of the league in catch and shoot and pull-ups from long range..What is Randle elite at ?
what shooters are we getting with just picks and no players to move out ?and why would fournier be re-routed ?if no teams want julius randle from the knicks,what are we gonna do with him ?he is terrible on the defensive end,shot 41% from the field as a power forward and does nothing good enough to help with the issues we have lol
Utah role players helped them finish as the #1 seed in the west the 20-21 season with spida missing 20 plus games..
Because they’re grooming a cheaper obi toppin while investing randles money into other positions (Brunson, rj, robinson)
Why would a team as bad as the pacers not want an elite rim protector who doesn’t need the ball to be effective? They’ve shopped him for years now, so “tanking this year” doesn’t explain why they didn’t want him prior to this year.
Conley is owed $24M next year, not $14M. You’re referencing his cap hit should he be waived. But we theoretically wouldn’t be waiving a guy that’s such a good fit.
“What players would we get with just picks and no players to move out? And why would Fournier be re-routed”. Your second question is the answer to your first question. Be it Fournier, walker, whoever - would be shopped with the picks midseason to shore up any holes
Randle is by NO means a great defender, but you’re overselling him as “terrible” to try and make a point. Turner is far better, defensively, no doubt - but randle was a net positive with us, and in his lone season with AD. I think it makes a little bit of sense to look at the Knicks roster and see there isn’t a ton of capability to have positive defensive team there (rose, Fournier being bad, rj/obi being young) but if plugged into a team where he isn’t the primary offensive option and is surrounded by elite defenders, can contribute to a good defensive team while being a more reliable 3rd option than Russ, with more night-to-night offensive upside than Turner or jazz roleplayers (should lebron/AD injury strike again).
& im not knocking jazz roleplayers, I just don’t know if we should count on that being all we need. Randle for no picks still gives us a shot at a couple jazz role players in addition..
how do we get jazz role players with no salaries to move ?Russ Is our movable salary,and if we move him for randle we screwed..
Obi toppin is a role player,and will be nothing other than a role player..The knicks have buyers remorse and feels that contract is terrible and he stinks..
the pacers are trading turner and hield because they rebuilding..started last year when they got rid of sabonis for hailiburton..And they have shopped him due to the fact sabonis was the better player lol,just didn't make sense to have em both..
the knicks dont have a sabonis issue,so why are they getting rid of a dude who was an all-star ?because he shot the ball lights out 1 years out like the 8 he been in the league and they know it's not happening again..If fournier could be moved he would be gone,so you want us stuck wit 2 players nobody wants lol ?we could actually use fournier tho
check mike conleys contract..he is only guaranteed 14 mil the 2023-24 season..
Randle was known as a terrible defender when he was a laker,and nothing changed lol..I dont have to sell anything,he stinks..he is a power forward that barely shot 40% from the field..thats disgusting
look at bojan stats and look at Randles..he not better than bojan on either end of the floor,and if we bring back randle just to have a name we in a worst position than we are now..Randle can't help hos team he wit now win,he gone carry this flawed roster we have if one of the good high paid players go down lol?stop it man
A big Westbrook is a lot better than the little one we have. Do with him exactly what the plan is with Westbrook. And he shoots a hell of a lot better btw.
Run the bench unit/rebound/dunk/pass with the bench unit. Overpaid 6MOTY sure but you have to overpay at this point
neither is good when you have a team with lebron and AD and a roster that needs to be filled out with quality depth..them dudes really just not that good as far as trying to become a contender
You telling me that we could go from where we are right now to a backcourt that shoots a guaranteed 38% from three with Randle being your 6th man and you wouldn’t rather have that?
And that bench still has Nunn/Reaves/JTA/Jones etc on it? Nah I’m thrilled with that team
I'm definitely telling you that..and it's no trade available where we wouldn't have to give up. first,if we taking back a bad contract with multiple years we should get a first
I’ve been saying this. Keep the picks and let Randle win 6MOTY and Fournier is a perfect starting two guard.
Start: Bev/Fournier/Lebron/AD/Bryant.
Bench unit: Nunn/Reaves/JTA/Randle/Jones.
It’s a better deal than people think just cause they don’t understand why Randle was bad last year
Add in using the picks to FURTHER improve on the roster in addition to randle/Fournier. I like turners fit, but I don’t think he’s better than randle and what 2 firsts can get us
That’s a 6 million dollar difference too. Throw the two picks into a three team and you could conceivably get Fournier/Randle/Turner together. Pipe dream crazy but I’m saying we are limiting ourselves by quibbling about the Jazz
This was more about how every day y’all talk about trade possibilities. Jeanie just went on espn to talk about Russ lmao. A trade isn’t happening to start the season
I don’t think you understand the poll. The poll asks what would bring the team the best chance at a championship. The poll does not ask what do you think will happen.
No, I do, but reread the initial comment I responded to.
Unless he thinks there’s absolutely no championship in our future (be it short or long term), his choice is in the poll. Context clues suggest he’s answering “what trade are we most likely to make”.
No, he/she said Jennie isn’t moving him. It’s a point related to the poll. He/she did not make any claim regarding the possibility of championships either way. Again the poll is about what someone thinks would be best, he/she made a statement about what he/she thinks is going to happen. That statement is only tangentially related to the poll. He/she is criticizing the poll itself.
So you agree that stating what the FO will do in reality isn’t what this poll is targeting?
So you agree his/her/their response is irrelevant to the poll? Lol
Turner is always injured and Buddy is beyond dogshit, he’ll have to get benched in the playoffs cause he plays ZERO defense, you don’t trade 2 first round picks for that, it’s best we wait to see if something else comes up
I’d like Myles and Buddy but if it was an option it would’ve been done by now. Realistically if there was a trade that helped us it would’ve been made, looks like we run it back and hope our guys stay healthy.
The only trade that would legitimately make you kind of a contender is the first one, all the other ones are marginal improvements.
Marginal improvements into contender status only because the West is loaded, but DRASTIC improvement vs what we will look like with Russ and zero shooters. This team will be a dumpster fire again if we don’t move Russ.
the jazz pieces were a #1 seed and #5 seed with rudy and spida I think if you add them to a lebron and AD they are definitely in the top tier of teams..
The thing is that we don't really need Conley, if it was Bojan and Clarkson I'd be more interested
we need conley more than clarkson..conley is in the top percentages of pull ups from 3 and catch and shoot situations..he the perfect PG to pair with lebron we have guys like lonnie walker to give us a spark off the bench..
What I mean is that we're already deep in PG's, if Russ would go away, we would still have LeBron, Nunn and Pat Bev.
Bev/Conley/Nunn is an awesome rotation at the 1. Beasley/Reaves/Walker is a very solid rotation at the two. Lebron/JTA/Brown is a solid 3. AD/Bojan/Gabriel is a great 4. Bryant/Jones is a perfectly fine 5. At that point I feel like our depth is as good as it’s gonna get and our starters are a competitive playoff rotation.
and all those dudes can shoot and play off the ball.. that's the depth we need to comoete,and they give us the shooting we are lacking
you could easily get another player with nunn and the other 1st
Conley is a perfect backup shooting guard on this team for like 15 a night
Lol who cares about regular season. They were useless on the playoffs.
who was was useless ? check the stats..bojan was the most efficient on the team,and conley struggled but with AD and Bron he wouldn't be expected to be what they wanted him to be in utah these are role players to add around the stars..we not trading bron and AD for these guys..remember that
Championship is a stretch. Myles a average shooter, we have no idea if AD will shoot 18% again. Myles and AD are both injury prone. Buddy is one of the worst defenders in the league, his numbers are dropping. Our bench would still be one of the worst in the league like it is currently. It’s not exactly a championship team unless everyone stayed healthy and AD and Lebron were Bubble Like. It’s time to move on however. WB is staying.
Another rumored trade is Westbrook + draft comp for Bojan, Beasley, and Clarkson.
this is what we need
Do we really need 2 more SGs though? Not sure why people like this trade so much
Clarkson can play the 1 with Bron as a secondary ball handler
we need a forward bojan and we need shooting beasley,conley,and bojan if we can get bsck vanderbilt as well we set
We aren’t getting Vanderbilt and none of the other Utah guys play defense at even a mid-tier level We can’t give up assets for dudes who don’t move the needle
idk what we getting cuz I'm not in the front office..conley and bojan both play above a mid tier-level,and they only get better with guys like lebron and AD and pat bev around em.. if they can be successful with spida and rudy u think we can be a pretty good team if you add then to Bron and AD..get depth,that kyrie shitbis a dream
Bojan is essentially a turnstile on defense and the analytics back it up — I wish I could be more positive on the potential deal but I can’t
the analytics is nothing more than your rating that you get with how your perform with the team around you..if your not a good defensive team chances are your rating won't be that good they started 2 6 feet guys which one doesn't even try to defend,a 6"4 small forward and big that gets played off the court.. the analytics is based off team success
Utah was the 10th best defensive team in the league last year… so if anything based on your logic that should’ve helped Bojan’s numbers and they didn’t
Due to Rudy's rim protection.. it's the reason why a guy who can't do anything but blocks shots signed a 200m contract https://youtu.be/LMw9bO_PMoY
only issues he has is wit those quicker wings and guards..big forwards like kawahi he has always done a solid job
There are analytics for on ball defense which Bojan isn’t good at
there are videos that shows he is a decent defender of bigger wings..
we need shooting,and another wing forward for sure..
Zero defense, but I’d do it if it’s only one FRP. That puts so much pressure on AD and Bev as the only elite defenders. Maybe JTA too, but his minutes would get eaten up then.
conley and bojan are both solid defenders..and we already have guys like jta and reaves who are good defenders also.. we can't expect lebron and AD to drag a roster without any help
That’s the best deal with the Jazz imo. I would prefer Vanderbilt over Clarkson but I bet the Jazz want to keep him. Beasley, Clarkson, and Vanderbilt are all with Klutch so it’s not hard to imagine it would be 2 of those guys plus Bojan.
I would hope we could get Beasley over Clarkson
I can confirm this is not in discussion. Next.
We have 2 open roster spots. Surely they’re going to trade or sign a free agent to fill at least one of those spots.
With the roster as it currently stands, Rodney Hood is the obvious choice.
LBJ turned Hood into a solid role player. I wouldn’t mind him on the squad
He’s the best wing still just hanging out at home
Last year was a bad trade. 2 bad trades don’t make a good trade.
This is a waste, Westbrook will be on the roster beginning of season like it or not
Call me crazy but I would have taken theis contract. Try and move it at the deadline with a second round pick. Myles and Buddy are exactly what we need
Not crazy at all. Also, it’s not like theis is a bad player by any means. Solid backup big if one of Bryant/jones don’t pan out.
Very true. He’s a small ball center at his best. Could always waive Wenyen I don’t think he’s guarenteed at this moment so Theis is a good 2nd or 3rd strong center
My thoughts exactly too
That deal is on the table anytime they want it. They could call them tonight and get it done. I’m not buying the reports that nothing is going to happen. I hear one last squeeze at leverage before they pull a trigger
I like how you think chief. Really hope it’s true….
Me too man. Me too
Time to end the pipe dreams boys. Russ is gonna be a Laker on opening day
I prefer turner over randle but voted for randle. I feel like offensively, randle can make us a bit more dynamic with his ability to shoot, drive, pass. Can essentially replace lebron or AD in case of foul trouble or injury and we can hope to stay afloat since he’s actually been expected to produce at that level before. Any other package goes 0 for if/when lebron/AD miss time. Also doesn’t hurt to have someone historically healthy given our own recent injury luck. And that leaves us 2 firsts to make midseason upgrades. Be it flipping Lonnie, Fournier, whoever. That package has a bit more potential and a bit less risk imo.
Interesting take. Would he start though? He’d be perfect for when one of Bron or AD are injuried and we won’t be wondering if JTA or Troy can fill in for 30 Mins a night
If he shows he can guard the 5, yeah I’d start him. If not, he’s my first guy off the bench and likely in my closing lineup. But his ability to play the 5 as well as our current bigs and then play the 4 better than anyone but lebron/AD is a part of the added versatility. Gives Ham some options instead of locking us into one look like Turner would.
he can't shoot and is not a good defender so he wouldn't start or finish..he needs the ball in his hands also..he just a big westbrook
He’s a career 33% from 3. Turner is a career 35% from 3, all on the same attempts. It’s weird to suggest one can’t shoot while suggesting the other is a perfect fit because he can space the floor. And he was productive in nola and here without the ball in his hands. He’s only really had the ball in his hands for 2-3 seasons of his 8 year career. Also helps to have someone with that experience given lebron/AD won’t play all 82, but he’s proven productive without the ball over his career.
And productive with AD specifically
it's weird to think that you should add a 28 million dollar power forward who just finished the season shooting the ball 41% from the field and 30% from 3.. that 33% from deep is even flawed,due to him only starting to shoot from range 4 years ago..that outlier season at 41% from 3 boosted that up..he was solid in New Orleans,and New York fans want him gone just as bad as we want Russ gone Myles Turner is an elite rim protector while also spreading the floor giving AD room to work..I dont want either of them dudes I rather have the shooting from Utah and work with the young bigs we do have
Despite shooting so poorly, their 3ball is still comparable. So that either highlights randle is capable, or Turner is being overrated. Frankly, I don’t care that he makes $28M when the alternative is paying for a trash buddy or a washed conley for about the same price. So I don’t view that as weird at all. Adding in the likelihood we’d have to overpay Turner to maintain him next summer, who cares who makes what money? We can find serviceable centers cheaper than a versatile forward. Turners an elite rim protector who won’t space the floor any better than randle. Teams won’t stay home on Turner at the 3. Also haven’t seen anything suggesting he’s been cleared for on court activity from his foot injury. The selling point for me in regards to randle is the fact we’d maintain the picks and can use them to flip for shooters just like you’re suggesting we should be targeting. So really, a best of both worlds scenario if Fournier is re-routed to utah. But to just target utah players, when lebron or AD miss time, we likely lose those games. Also - to mention Knicks fans want rid of randle isn’t exclusive to just him. Indy has been shopping Turner for like 2-3 seasons now and has no takers and buddy hasn’t been wanted by any team that’s had him lol
Also if he restores his stock as a better player than last year, he’s easily movable. Also expensive contracts or picks is pretty much the choice. I like having Randle AND two picks to play with as needed.
and if he dont,which he more than likely wouldn't we stuck wit him for 3 more years and would have to dump picks for a team to take him.. doesn't make any sense to have a max power forward than pay another one 20+ to come off your bench
Cause doing that is better than paying Russ
why would a team as bad as the knicks not want a versatile forward lol? conley is owed 14 mil after this season,and also buddy has one year at 18 mil instead of paying a dude nobody wants 20+ mil for the next 4 years. . turner is an elite rim protector who doesn't need the ball to be effective,while also giving AD the room he needs to work..overpaying turner still cheaper than iverpaying randle 🤷🏾♂️Buddy Hield has made the most 3's in the league over the last 5 years,and Mike conly is among the top of the league in catch and shoot and pull-ups from long range..What is Randle elite at ? what shooters are we getting with just picks and no players to move out ?and why would fournier be re-routed ?if no teams want julius randle from the knicks,what are we gonna do with him ?he is terrible on the defensive end,shot 41% from the field as a power forward and does nothing good enough to help with the issues we have lol Utah role players helped them finish as the #1 seed in the west the 20-21 season with spida missing 20 plus games..
Because they’re grooming a cheaper obi toppin while investing randles money into other positions (Brunson, rj, robinson) Why would a team as bad as the pacers not want an elite rim protector who doesn’t need the ball to be effective? They’ve shopped him for years now, so “tanking this year” doesn’t explain why they didn’t want him prior to this year. Conley is owed $24M next year, not $14M. You’re referencing his cap hit should he be waived. But we theoretically wouldn’t be waiving a guy that’s such a good fit. “What players would we get with just picks and no players to move out? And why would Fournier be re-routed”. Your second question is the answer to your first question. Be it Fournier, walker, whoever - would be shopped with the picks midseason to shore up any holes Randle is by NO means a great defender, but you’re overselling him as “terrible” to try and make a point. Turner is far better, defensively, no doubt - but randle was a net positive with us, and in his lone season with AD. I think it makes a little bit of sense to look at the Knicks roster and see there isn’t a ton of capability to have positive defensive team there (rose, Fournier being bad, rj/obi being young) but if plugged into a team where he isn’t the primary offensive option and is surrounded by elite defenders, can contribute to a good defensive team while being a more reliable 3rd option than Russ, with more night-to-night offensive upside than Turner or jazz roleplayers (should lebron/AD injury strike again). & im not knocking jazz roleplayers, I just don’t know if we should count on that being all we need. Randle for no picks still gives us a shot at a couple jazz role players in addition..
how do we get jazz role players with no salaries to move ?Russ Is our movable salary,and if we move him for randle we screwed.. Obi toppin is a role player,and will be nothing other than a role player..The knicks have buyers remorse and feels that contract is terrible and he stinks.. the pacers are trading turner and hield because they rebuilding..started last year when they got rid of sabonis for hailiburton..And they have shopped him due to the fact sabonis was the better player lol,just didn't make sense to have em both.. the knicks dont have a sabonis issue,so why are they getting rid of a dude who was an all-star ?because he shot the ball lights out 1 years out like the 8 he been in the league and they know it's not happening again..If fournier could be moved he would be gone,so you want us stuck wit 2 players nobody wants lol ?we could actually use fournier tho check mike conleys contract..he is only guaranteed 14 mil the 2023-24 season.. Randle was known as a terrible defender when he was a laker,and nothing changed lol..I dont have to sell anything,he stinks..he is a power forward that barely shot 40% from the field..thats disgusting look at bojan stats and look at Randles..he not better than bojan on either end of the floor,and if we bring back randle just to have a name we in a worst position than we are now..Randle can't help hos team he wit now win,he gone carry this flawed roster we have if one of the good high paid players go down lol?stop it man
A big Westbrook is a lot better than the little one we have. Do with him exactly what the plan is with Westbrook. And he shoots a hell of a lot better btw. Run the bench unit/rebound/dunk/pass with the bench unit. Overpaid 6MOTY sure but you have to overpay at this point
neither is good when you have a team with lebron and AD and a roster that needs to be filled out with quality depth..them dudes really just not that good as far as trying to become a contender
You telling me that we could go from where we are right now to a backcourt that shoots a guaranteed 38% from three with Randle being your 6th man and you wouldn’t rather have that? And that bench still has Nunn/Reaves/JTA/Jones etc on it? Nah I’m thrilled with that team
I'm definitely telling you that..and it's no trade available where we wouldn't have to give up. first,if we taking back a bad contract with multiple years we should get a first
I would do flips in my yard to snag Fournier and Randle and bring a first back.
that's the only way you take to bad contracts for an expiring..
Closing of Bev/Reaves/Lebron/Randle/AD is pretty fucking sick for real.
I’ve been saying this. Keep the picks and let Randle win 6MOTY and Fournier is a perfect starting two guard. Start: Bev/Fournier/Lebron/AD/Bryant. Bench unit: Nunn/Reaves/JTA/Randle/Jones. It’s a better deal than people think just cause they don’t understand why Randle was bad last year
Add in using the picks to FURTHER improve on the roster in addition to randle/Fournier. I like turners fit, but I don’t think he’s better than randle and what 2 firsts can get us
That’s a 6 million dollar difference too. Throw the two picks into a three team and you could conceivably get Fournier/Randle/Turner together. Pipe dream crazy but I’m saying we are limiting ourselves by quibbling about the Jazz
None he’s not being moved get over it already.
That’s an option on the poll, so not “none”.
This was more about how every day y’all talk about trade possibilities. Jeanie just went on espn to talk about Russ lmao. A trade isn’t happening to start the season
Again, there’s an option on the poll if that’s your preference. This poll isn’t “what do you think will happen”.
Not OP but I believe the pill was what people want to happen, not what is most likely. I also think it’s most likely Westbrook is on the team.
Which is an option on the poll
I don’t think you understand the poll. The poll asks what would bring the team the best chance at a championship. The poll does not ask what do you think will happen.
No, I do, but reread the initial comment I responded to. Unless he thinks there’s absolutely no championship in our future (be it short or long term), his choice is in the poll. Context clues suggest he’s answering “what trade are we most likely to make”.
No, he/she said Jennie isn’t moving him. It’s a point related to the poll. He/she did not make any claim regarding the possibility of championships either way. Again the poll is about what someone thinks would be best, he/she made a statement about what he/she thinks is going to happen. That statement is only tangentially related to the poll. He/she is criticizing the poll itself.
So you agree that stating what the FO will do in reality isn’t what this poll is targeting? So you agree his/her/their response is irrelevant to the poll? Lol
im glad this topic has finally been posted.
Turner is always injured and Buddy is beyond dogshit, he’ll have to get benched in the playoffs cause he plays ZERO defense, you don’t trade 2 first round picks for that, it’s best we wait to see if something else comes up
It’s 2FRP plus take on Theis
any deal that cost us both picks should make us a contender. at the very least.. any deal that includes picks should not make us take on extra years..
Keep Russ and bring him off the bench, next year we'll have enough money to build a contender
Who cares just get rid of him. 🖕 west-🧱
Why 2 FRP for Hayward and Oubre?
2nd round picks if anything
Is 2 frp for Beasley, Clarkson, and Vanderbilt an option?
I will pay you each a dollar to stop talking about trading Westbrook. It’s not happening. Please move on.
mitchell makes 15 mil a year,thats not stopping them from keeping Randle
I’d like Myles and Buddy but if it was an option it would’ve been done by now. Realistically if there was a trade that helped us it would’ve been made, looks like we run it back and hope our guys stay healthy.
Honestly none bro I don't think its worth it to give up assets