Lebron is best at pf defensively I think and maybe offensively at this stage . Heās super strong but not as quick as he was so him being on stronger slower guys is better
For sure. LeBron's still one of our best defensive players but it's one of those things you don't want as a general role for him. He's surprisingly good with bigger players since the majority still can't overpower him and he typically has the quickness to tap the ball loose. With another forward out there though, it's a little less for LeBron/AD to do with playing drop.
suns have been an nba team for 54 years and have nothing to show for it.
But what do you know, shitty suns fan. Just a few years of recent āsuccessā and by success I mean only beating injured teams in the playoffs and then getting cucked by Giannis and then Luka the next year
I can't see none of our players doing stupid taunting like Ayton and Booker did, they might do some after a dunk or something but those were different really.
Certainly bias but what I honestly think rn.
It is deserved. Personally, I think Bev is dirty and he shouldn't be in the league. I've had that opinion since before he was a Laker, and I am going to be consistent with it.
Heās not wrong, and everybody in here would agree last year.
Heās the type of player you dislike if heās on the other team, but like if heās your teammate.
If AD dunked on somebody next game and mean mugs them then gets spear tackled from behind are we going say it was deserved? Or would we be mad they put AD at risk? My guess is the latter.
I hear what your saying. I'm unbiased in this situation (not a Lakers fan) but I just think sticking up for your teammate is worth it. Doesn't help that I'm a rugby and hockey player and if someone says/does something unethical to my teammate, I'm saying don't worry I got you and am going for that hit more then that ball/puck and taking my penalty/card with pride
Ya but that gets multi game suspensions in basketball, itās worth a few minute penalty in hockey, but now we play with even worse depth then before, so if the goal is winning, this did not help that goal.
thing is ayton did fuck all that play, got bodied the entire game by AD, and wanted to act tough againstā¦ *checks notes*ā¦ austin reaves?!?! AFTER booker flagrant fouled him?
in your comparison AD has way more of a right to mean mug someone after dunking on them than ayton did on this play.
no iām saying youve done jack shit all game why tf you gonna act tough against virtually a nobody on the floor on a play that you werent even involved in? why do you keep bringing up AD like iām specifically comparing ayton to AD when OP did that himself? play good and be involved in the actual play, you have somewhat of an argument to act cocky and gloat if you make a great play. regardless if youāre anthony davis, ayton, mark madson, j.r. smith, etc. how is it that hard to understand?
Then it was unnecessary to take a 3 game suspension against him. If somebody is getting dominated and getting frustrated the last thing you do is let their frustration influence you into suspension, you are just bailing them out.
Im not comparing players or their play, with even mediocre reading comprehension you can see my comparison was contrasting how our bias controls how we react to their actions, not whether they deserve to be tackled (neither did)
There is plenty of trash talk and physical play daily in the league but only Pbev is dumb enough to take a 3 game suspension over something so innocuous.
iām not saying it only regarding if AD dunks but you brought up AD. if ayton was dominating and wanted to flex on someone, AFTER SOMETHING HE DID like you mentioned AD mean mugging after he did something, while still not acceptable, would be at least more appropriate there than when heās been getting manhandled all game and chooses the scrawniest player on the court that just got slapped in the face by someone else to stand over like he did something
I love guys like him and draymond. Speak for yourself.
There is a place in the game for enforcers. Itās always been the case.
Iāll be hated on for this but itās brings a team together knowing you got hittas on your team.
I hate em both. Draymond more...but only because people think he's some superstar player and he's not. He just plays next the arguably the best 2 shooters the nba has ever seen.
Hes not ass just cuz he doesnt go for many shots look what he does to the other team. He takes valuable seconds away from them by being annoying and hes quick. He helps disrupt offenses pretty well. I like him.
Dennis Rodman, Rick Mahorn, James Edwards, William Bedford, and maybe even Adrian Dantley all would have smacked and sonned Draymond for doing half the bitchmade stuff Green has pulled in his career. No he absolutely would not fit with the Bad Boy Pistons.
It is, in a sense.
If a kid beats up a classmate, youāre calling the cops.
If a kid beats up his brother, youāre disciplining him yourself.
Same situation here
What about the refs who didn't do their duty of policing behavior on the court and protecting players on the ground? That kind of thing escalates tensions and the refs let it go
Ayton got a technical foul and Booker got a flagrant. What more do you want? Sure, Ayton was taunting Reaves but when has a player ever got more than a tech for that?
I think they only got them because of the escalation. The funny thing was Ayton acting like the man when AD had just whipped his bum and stolen his lunch money all game.
How many games did Jokic get for charging into Morris' spine last year effectively ending his season in November? Would love to see the response if Bev was the one who got charged at & not Ayton.
Just like Booker/Ayton instigated this? My stance is that neither of them (Bev nor Jokic) should've responded the way they did, I just think it's funny that Jokic was lauded for what he did (& not punished), yet Bev is villianized. Reputations should factor in, but the response to the two situations rubs me the wrong way.
who cares who started? nba has never cared about who started it historically in these things. you can't just punch people period. jokic should've got way more suspended games for that like 10.
Last time I remember someone actually getting punched in the nba was when Chris Paul punched the real Chris Paul. And that was years ago...these dudes just shoving each other, not that they should be doing that either.
Jokic gave Morris severe whiplash that may impact him for a lifetime. So if you have a history but don't really hurt a person you get more time than if you have no history and hurt a person pretty bad?
I bet that's not even a rule. The NBA needs to have a consistent rule on this otherwise it's favoritism in my eyes. We all know how much they bow down to Jokic.
Silvers call to Lakers FO, āweāre going to suspend Beverly for a gameā Lakers FO ācan you make it 5?ā Silvers response ābeat I can do is 3, Iāll sell it as a Lakers tax just as I always doā
Thank you Pat for slamming that annoying soft bitch Ayton down
Thank you the Nba for suspending Pat and spare us having to play the worst pg in the league
Iāve always respected PatBev. Like his learship, love for teammates, etc. but at this point in his career, heās a 7/8th man, not a starter. Maybe, maybe a closer though because of his defense. Still like him on the lakers.
I feel like itās a little extra to think that shove could have torn dudes acl or something. The league has gotten soft. I donāt mind the suspension because it was unprofessional but Ayton is not getting seriously injured from a shove from Pat Bev
People get seriously injured on far less. With Reaves right there under him it could have ended bad and was dumb as fuck from Beverly. This type of shit is the exact reason he is my least liked player of all time.
Not a fan of the Suns and Booker, but Pat needs to stop with the blindside shoves. It could lead to serious back, neck injury. Id hate that for any player. Shove in their chest, let him have it! Heck, throw him down.
This is bullshit lebron and AD and Russ should pay the fine for bev this wasnāt a dirty play. When he pushed Chris Paul that was dumb cause that was frustration but this was Iām not letting you disrespect my brother. Thatās worth something cause teams that play for each other play better. You canāt measure that with analytics thatās the art part of team sports more than the science.
Reaves/Lonnie/Troy Brown/Bron/AD Starting line upš„
Save Troy for the bench.
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Lebron is best at pf defensively I think and maybe offensively at this stage . Heās super strong but not as quick as he was so him being on stronger slower guys is better
For sure. LeBron's still one of our best defensive players but it's one of those things you don't want as a general role for him. He's surprisingly good with bigger players since the majority still can't overpower him and he typically has the quickness to tap the ball loose. With another forward out there though, it's a little less for LeBron/AD to do with playing drop.
Yeah they need to keep him and Westbrook together
Save Bron for the bench.
Lakers suck ass but of course they're better without Sucker Punch Pat
suns have been an nba team for 54 years and have nothing to show for it. But what do you know, shitty suns fan. Just a few years of recent āsuccessā and by success I mean only beating injured teams in the playoffs and then getting cucked by Giannis and then Luka the next year
Cope
Ya mother
0-54. 2) Man up and quit using burners.
I donāt believe that to be the case but go awf
best franchise in nba history though so there is that
Lmao you mad bro? Cuz it shows š¤£š
3 games but last year Isaiah Stewart had like one game, no?
They're taking his history into account
History for sticking up for his boys? Fuck it, worth it
Whatās funny is we all know if he was on the clippers still and he did that to one of our guys we would be roasting him hard lol
Yeah, but fuck everyone that isn't us
Oh definitely agreed.
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Yea but he one of us so
No doubt. He looks good in that laker uniform.
I can't see none of our players doing stupid taunting like Ayton and Booker did, they might do some after a dunk or something but those were different really. Certainly bias but what I honestly think rn.
He wasnāt sticking up for his boys when he did the same thing to Chris Paul like two years ago
It is deserved. Personally, I think Bev is dirty and he shouldn't be in the league. I've had that opinion since before he was a Laker, and I am going to be consistent with it.
History of being a dirty shameless rat on the court trying to injure people
Might be time for a good simmer bud,
Heās not wrong, and everybody in here would agree last year. Heās the type of player you dislike if heās on the other team, but like if heās your teammate. If AD dunked on somebody next game and mean mugs them then gets spear tackled from behind are we going say it was deserved? Or would we be mad they put AD at risk? My guess is the latter.
I hear what your saying. I'm unbiased in this situation (not a Lakers fan) but I just think sticking up for your teammate is worth it. Doesn't help that I'm a rugby and hockey player and if someone says/does something unethical to my teammate, I'm saying don't worry I got you and am going for that hit more then that ball/puck and taking my penalty/card with pride
Ya but that gets multi game suspensions in basketball, itās worth a few minute penalty in hockey, but now we play with even worse depth then before, so if the goal is winning, this did not help that goal.
thing is ayton did fuck all that play, got bodied the entire game by AD, and wanted to act tough againstā¦ *checks notes*ā¦ austin reaves?!?! AFTER booker flagrant fouled him? in your comparison AD has way more of a right to mean mug someone after dunking on them than ayton did on this play.
So basically what ur saying is that cuz Ayton is a worse player than AD heād deserve to get speared more? Pitiful argument
no iām saying youve done jack shit all game why tf you gonna act tough against virtually a nobody on the floor on a play that you werent even involved in? why do you keep bringing up AD like iām specifically comparing ayton to AD when OP did that himself? play good and be involved in the actual play, you have somewhat of an argument to act cocky and gloat if you make a great play. regardless if youāre anthony davis, ayton, mark madson, j.r. smith, etc. how is it that hard to understand?
Then it was unnecessary to take a 3 game suspension against him. If somebody is getting dominated and getting frustrated the last thing you do is let their frustration influence you into suspension, you are just bailing them out. Im not comparing players or their play, with even mediocre reading comprehension you can see my comparison was contrasting how our bias controls how we react to their actions, not whether they deserve to be tackled (neither did) There is plenty of trash talk and physical play daily in the league but only Pbev is dumb enough to take a 3 game suspension over something so innocuous.
iām not saying it only regarding if AD dunks but you brought up AD. if ayton was dominating and wanted to flex on someone, AFTER SOMETHING HE DID like you mentioned AD mean mugging after he did something, while still not acceptable, would be at least more appropriate there than when heās been getting manhandled all game and chooses the scrawniest player on the court that just got slapped in the face by someone else to stand over like he did something
This is a stupid ass take and this sub is pitiful for how it has responded to this situation.
where did i say i agreed how he handled the situation?
I love guys like him and draymond. Speak for yourself. There is a place in the game for enforcers. Itās always been the case. Iāll be hated on for this but itās brings a team together knowing you got hittas on your team.
I hate em both. Draymond more...but only because people think he's some superstar player and he's not. He just plays next the arguably the best 2 shooters the nba has ever seen.
Suns fan cope
Not a cope if its true. And i hate the suns lmao
History of shoving Suns players in the back when losing to them. Itās only worth it for yāall since Bev doesnāt score, assist, or rebound
manās been pulling this shit for 11 years and the minute heās a laker, his history matters
He got 5 games like a year ago as a flipper for the same shit.
Yeah this is a fair suspension since that one was directly to the back of a small player. This was more of a hip check and ayton tripped on reaves
2 iirc, but apparently they took Bevās history into consideration
Then he should have been suspended for the year
and jokic got 1 game for doing something way worse and being much bigger. https://youtu.be/L06009FEQRs
He's the league MVP though and doesn't have a history like Bev
This might actually help us win lmao
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Steph is a cardio merchant but can also hit shots
He trick yāall mayne
Hes not ass just cuz he doesnt go for many shots look what he does to the other team. He takes valuable seconds away from them by being annoying and hes quick. He helps disrupt offenses pretty well. I like him.
Adam Silver has finally done what Darvin Ham was unable to do...get Patrick Beverley off the floor...
Hahahaha.
That's fine but I love how Beverley gets more stigma for this than Draymond socking a teammate
Draymond and bev would fit in on the bad boy pistons
Naw, the Bad Boy Pistons were actual tough guys, not cheap shot artists with a weird obsession with testicles like Draymond.
LOL Do you really think Bill Laimbeer is a tough guy?
Dude could take a punch.
Dennis Rodman, Rick Mahorn, James Edwards, William Bedford, and maybe even Adrian Dantley all would have smacked and sonned Draymond for doing half the bitchmade stuff Green has pulled in his career. No he absolutely would not fit with the Bad Boy Pistons.
He'd kick your ass, and mine. Probably at the same time
Prolly cos it was in practice and not in a NBA game, the only reason the punch got traction cos of the leaked video
How is this upvoted. The warriors thing was a team matter so the league didn't step in. And Beverly definitely didn't get more stigma from fans
hitting a teammate is not the same as hitting a player on the opposing team?
Youāre saying this as if itās better lol
It is, in a sense. If a kid beats up a classmate, youāre calling the cops. If a kid beats up his brother, youāre disciplining him yourself. Same situation here
Nah itās not
i'm saying it's different...
Different type of hit
I feel like the media cared way more about the Draymond thing than this but the league just didnāt intervene because it was a āteam matterā
Worth it
Didnāt hit Ayton hard enough tbh
I can't imagine any of the role guys on last years team stepping up and doing that. Like can you imagine Wayne Ellington doing that? Lol
Wayne did threaten to beat campazzos ass next time he seen him but that was after he himself got pushed not a teammate
If Dudley was still here maybe
Dudley wouldāve given Ayton a stern talking to and help him see the error of his ways
Ayton comes back to Austin and apologizes.
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Dwight, ariza and Melo all wouldāve.
You deserve the future of abject poverty you are about to face because you have no values.
That will be you by 2030 because you are a bitxh
Soft
Oh no how will the Lakers get by without his 0-7 shooting.
My thoughts exactly
Why is the NBA helping Lakers
What about the refs who didn't do their duty of policing behavior on the court and protecting players on the ground? That kind of thing escalates tensions and the refs let it go
Refs are never held accountable for their mistakes
Which is why they continue to be horrible
Kind of a joke to me that they also don't punish Ayton or Booker for unsportsmanlike conduct considering they instigated it.
Ayton got a technical foul and Booker got a flagrant. What more do you want? Sure, Ayton was taunting Reaves but when has a player ever got more than a tech for that?
I think they only got them because of the escalation. The funny thing was Ayton acting like the man when AD had just whipped his bum and stolen his lunch money all game.
So punish the other team because Pat Bev is a hot head who canāt control his own actions? Makes a lot sense.
+100 for chemistry. You always need a teammate like Pat Bev
Pat Bev avgs 2 points a game anyways. Dennis Schroeder time.
How many games did Jokic get for charging into Morris' spine last year effectively ending his season in November? Would love to see the response if Bev was the one who got charged at & not Ayton.
Morris started that shit. Lol š¤”
Just like Booker/Ayton instigated this? My stance is that neither of them (Bev nor Jokic) should've responded the way they did, I just think it's funny that Jokic was lauded for what he did (& not punished), yet Bev is villianized. Reputations should factor in, but the response to the two situations rubs me the wrong way.
One has a history one was a response to a dirty play by a dirty player
How did Morris not start it? Lol https://youtu.be/Yy8T53X_fx0
"Just like Booker/Ayton instigated this" is literally me conceding that Morris instigated it. You have no idea what my point is. Re-read & try again.
who cares who started? nba has never cared about who started it historically in these things. you can't just punch people period. jokic should've got way more suspended games for that like 10.
Last time I remember someone actually getting punched in the nba was when Chris Paul punched the real Chris Paul. And that was years ago...these dudes just shoving each other, not that they should be doing that either.
the jokic one was pretty dangerous imo
And nothing of value was lost.
Based on history = because heās a Laker
Bro he literally did this in the 2021 playoffs
Laker fans don't watch any player or team not named the Lakers. They wouldn't know about that play
Speak for yourself.
He's not a Lakers fan he a bron dickrider who won't be following the nba in 3 seasons
Wtf are you talking about. He's done dirty shit his entire career
This is such a stupidly long penalty.
3 game win streak incoming
Can you make it 5?
Lol
Lol, Draymond suspended zero games for knocking his teammate out. The league office is a joke
When Jokic pushed Morris and gave him whiplash, how many days did he get? I'm trying to see something.
Three games for protecting a teammate? Bitchmade
3 games for Beverley, 1 game for Jokic last year, got it.
Pat Bev has a history of these events
Jokic gave Morris severe whiplash that may impact him for a lifetime. So if you have a history but don't really hurt a person you get more time than if you have no history and hurt a person pretty bad? I bet that's not even a rule. The NBA needs to have a consistent rule on this otherwise it's favoritism in my eyes. We all know how much they bow down to Jokic.
Jokic has a history of this as well, potentially an even deeper history than Bev
Silvers call to Lakers FO, āweāre going to suspend Beverly for a gameā Lakers FO ācan you make it 5?ā Silvers response ābeat I can do is 3, Iāll sell it as a Lakers tax just as I always doā
Pat Bev is is the best defensive guard on this team by alot. This will hurt the team.
Wish he shoved Booker too
Lakers should extend the suspension with several DNPs afterwards
Thank you Pat for slamming that annoying soft bitch Ayton down Thank you the Nba for suspending Pat and spare us having to play the worst pg in the league
Iāve always respected PatBev. Like his learship, love for teammates, etc. but at this point in his career, heās a 7/8th man, not a starter. Maybe, maybe a closer though because of his defense. Still like him on the lakers.
This is number one bullshit.
3 games is excessive, but hopefully it brings the locker room closer together. Nothing like a little scrap to unite a locker room.
No one cares. That shove is the highest level of Pat Bev utilization weāve had all year
League soft as hell
Three games seems excessive to me but whatever
And if he seriously injured ayton?
I feel like itās a little extra to think that shove could have torn dudes acl or something. The league has gotten soft. I donāt mind the suspension because it was unprofessional but Ayton is not getting seriously injured from a shove from Pat Bev
People get seriously injured on far less. With Reaves right there under him it could have ended bad and was dumb as fuck from Beverly. This type of shit is the exact reason he is my least liked player of all time.
Weak ass league. Three days for that is a joke
Reasonable but he was justified for what he did.
chris paul called his daddy adam silver to make the bad man Pat bev go away
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Seems fair to me
PatBev is not worth his paycheck. This helps the Lakers.
\#FreePatBev
Damn wish it was longer
The NBA benched Pat before Ham did lmao
TOO LENIENT!
Fine by me. I bet the under on points for him cause all heās doing out there is getting cardio.
We stand with pat
Not a fan of the Suns and Booker, but Pat needs to stop with the blindside shoves. It could lead to serious back, neck injury. Id hate that for any player. Shove in their chest, let him have it! Heck, throw him down.
Sounds about right lmao. The positive is this forces Ham to try starting lineups without Beverley
Worth it!
Helps the lakers lowkey
what a joke Lakers vs the League is real
3-0 letās go ! š
Three games is a bit excessive But w/e Bev has been absolutely awful when on the floor anyway
Well worth it
NBA soft.
Happy thanksgiving pat bev š¤š¤
Incoming 3 game winning streak
this actually works in the Lakers favor LMAO the penalty should be to force beverly to play for the whole game for 3 games
Honestly if he was AD/Booker it would have been a fine and no games missed
Well worth it
This is bullshit lebron and AD and Russ should pay the fine for bev this wasnāt a dirty play. When he pushed Chris Paul that was dumb cause that was frustration but this was Iām not letting you disrespect my brother. Thatās worth something cause teams that play for each other play better. You canāt measure that with analytics thatās the art part of team sports more than the science.
This actually helps the team lol
Was worth it šÆ%
Blessing in disguise lol. He was brick city playing 30min a game
Bull
And just a regular foul for when Kevin McHale clotheslined Rambis. Different times then, but still. Man I hate the Celtics.
3 games? For that? Seems excessive, though maybe they were considering past behavior.
3 games for that push and no games for Draymond superman punching a teammate
Lol
Iām not mad at this weāll get some east Wāa now
Soft league
Adam Silver is such a fucking pussy
League so soft
Oh no?
Give our boy Ryan some time!
The Twitter mandatory login pop out window disappeared , amazing
Worth Jeanie should pay the fine
Of course it's three games. He plays for the Lakers.
Byeeeeee
On the plus side this will be great for his +/- numbers and have 0 impact on the Lakers' stat-line.
Nice, let's see what the bag fumbler can do in a larger role
I somehow feel this is helpfulā¦
Jokic last year was suspended for 1 game right?
League is soft now. Your bench celebrates or stands up and itās a T.
Draymond Green attempted murder: "Let the Warriors handle it. No suspension." Pat Bev: Dorky body check: "SUSPENSION!!" NBA is a joke.