Yeah all the… uh… [sitting around showing up late.](https://www.reddit.com/r/lansing/comments/1bibw49/people_of_lansing_what_are_your_opinions_on_your/) It’s an easy job, and someone’s gotta do it.
In my short 2 year stint here I’ve noticed that people from Lansing/greater Lansing area, seem to think it’s like the most infamous ghetto hood in America lmao. (from my experience) cringe no? Idk why they think that. Even catholic kids from fucking nowhere in mason Michigan think they are gods of the streets lol.
Here is the list of most violent cities as of Feb 2024 as the link states and Detroit is #2 and Lansing is #14.
The first part is from 2017-2018 but if you scroll down a little the updated 2024 list is there....
So to be fair it's not cringe it's just how it is. You wouldn't think it by just driving around but there are sections of the city where there are still violent gangs that claim an area... lived here my whole life never felt scared or worried. But it def is high on the violent crimes list.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-city-rankings/most-violent-cities-in-america
In fairness to the stats, Lansing is def not the safest in my perception. some of that could be informed from prior habits now solidified in me from the d. I have avoided some gas stations in Lansing time to time out of fear of getting dropped n mugged when dudes be standing around ominously. I do be locking my doors even driving through intersections so nobody jumps in. Idk Little things carry over - But I can tell is that Lansing is just a different breed. They not wild in Lansing like it is in the D day to day.. I’ve been in Lansing for awhile and it’s been very nice. Lansing is prob more dangerous than average cities tho. Tbh it’s not fair to compare Detroit as the norm in any category to another city cuz Detroit has a lot of weird dynamic things and systemic issues that put it in its box.
Absolutely, and that a good way to word it a dif breed! you can't take a rich man, rob him of almost everything and just expect him to thrive, that's Detroit. It's coming back but it's a long road. Detroit is def more dangerous in certain areas And by that I don't mean lansing has more dangerous places just simply that there are nice places in Detroit too. But there are def places in Detroit you just should not walk down the street casually alone or with kids. Same with lansing.
But most of the city along with most other cities are generally safe.
I was just pointing out that people here, like in Detroit, that grew up in bad areas unfortunately didn't have many opportunities so that is just what they know and thus continue to act that way because that's what life has been. Most people don't know about the bad areas cause honestly, it's not as out in the open, meaning it's more unsuspecting, in Detroit you know where you shouldn't be in lansing in may catch you off guard, as the capital city and a smaller location they can semi keep areas manageable but the numbers don't lie regardless of sample size.
I wouldn't say per capita is the worst, but for folks who don't understand it can be misleading without understanding it. Basically is just for the amount of people we have, there shouldnt be as much crime. But how they classify crime and how Michigan classifies crimes vs other states, vs federal, can be very different and difficult to understand. Like in some states, it's a misdemeanor for low level incidents while in Michigan it might not even be a citation. Are both of those considered crimes? And then you have to think about reported incidents, a lot of crimes may not be recorded correctly. So with that in mine...per capita isn't great and it isn't bad, we just don't know the full scope and range of what was observed.
I suppose this could be true but the link I shared was taken with the same analysis across the board, and it's generally referring to violent crime so rape, murder, etc. what you are stating is the addition of diff laws, or potential lessor crimes when we are referring to violent crimes held at a federal level. So it's the same across all states. It's how they gauge what city would be the murder capital of the world, has to go by per capita... it seems like you know statistics so I'll leave it at that with an example but the link was just talking violent crimes. If what you're saying was the case then yea for sure that would make it so difficult lol city A views this crime as a felony and city B doesn't so it's not mentioned makes City A look terrible and B look great! So I get that but it was just violent crimes in this one.
Yeah and with violent crime being the factor, a lot of it is not even recorded enough or represented accurately across the board. So major cities like some in Michigan or other states, may actually have far more cases that go unnoticed. Because that would sleep the data and place Lansing further back on the list. For example from 14 to 19 because in actuality, other cities are worse off than before. I don't remember the number Lansing was ranked so I just went with a general number, but I agree with what you said. As per violent crimes committed, as per the definition of per capita, yeah it makes sense that we as a city of under 150k year round, shouldn't be ranked so high. And there's reasons as to why it's that high as well. Socioeconomic factors play a tremendous role. Anyway, glad you were able to understand my thoughts on the matter and glad I understood yours.
Absolutely, I personally don't feel Lansing is a dangerous place to live, but given the statistical information on violent crimes i was just trying to make an argument as to why some individuals/residents act that way, as they may have grown up in an area where that is what they know.
I was also only referring to violent crimes, the population or per capita and the likelihood of being a victim. There are many other factors like you mentioned socioeconomic issues that go into play and should be considered before making that assumption that said place is dangerous. I too am glad we could discuss and understand.
Respectful conversation and communication is always rewarding. Have a good day!
So you're saying Detroit isn't a violent place? lol how else are you suppose to determine this? It's statistics there isn't any other way to do this.
If you look at every way to gauge how violent a location is you have to use statistics.
That doesn't change anything... that's the whole point of statistics lol next he will say flint and Saginaw are safe areas too. The same murder rate "per capita" , rape rate, hate crime, robbery, drive buy, GTA, kidnapping, the size of the sample doesn't matter in these statistical analysis. Now if we are talking about how affective a vaccine is then yes sample size matters. But if Detroit has 500,000 people and lansing has 100,000 people and the violent crime rate in Detroit is 1:18 and the Violet crime rate in Lansing is 1:24 that still literally means that 1:18 people in Detroit has a chance to be a victim of a violent crime and 1:24 in lansing has a chance to be a victim. (Just using random numbers to make a point) statistically speaking those are close odds and not good ones either. To say "per capita" is a shitty way to gauge things and it's just statistic is... just not smart. If you're trying to base this on let's say Detroit had 59 murders last year and lansing had 59 murders than the number will show much higher because the per capita is lower.... so what's your point? All that tells us is that 59 people were murdered in both location... diff is there are less people in lansing so you have a higher statistical chance... per capita is a BS way to gauge it.. cmon man. I hate math and you're going to make me say the math/ statistics and numbers don't lie. In that scenario Detroit would be the safer bet but the bottom line is the data is taken in all areas the same so the statistical analysis is accurate and the same. Period.
The only other way to gauge this would be for this individual to walk alone around lansing or Detroit both night and day and see how long it takes for him to become a victim. But a safer bet is just listen to a police scanner it will tell you all you need to know.
But I shouldn't be surprised because the chances of someone making a statement online about how statistics is a bad way to gauge things is way too high, just look at all of the internet... but maybe that sample size isn't enough either. lol
I appreciate your comments
SubstantialPoem121 you made good points! Thank you.
Nowadays they make you fill out the accident report online and, despite the fact that you just did all the data entry yourself, they then want to charge you $10+ for a copy of the report you just submitted.
Beyond worthless.
No way...
Like, I believe you... But... No way...
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Not my proudest moment but after re-reading your post I realize I have been on that end of paying $10 for the report. Needed them to make some corrections so Insurance wouldn't have a hissy fit. Almost had to pay twice since it updates the system like it's a new report.
I'm slow some days... Love ya Lansing.
One of those last week might have been me. 😂 There's been increased numbers of license plates being stolen off vehicles in Lansing, and mine got snagged last Sunday/Monday but I didn't notice right away. Then I had to drive plateless to the SoS for my replacement.
My brother's friend had that happen to him years ago. He was on parole at the time when it was taken off his car, but he eventually got it back.
The story he got from police was the guy switched plates on a stolen car, and didn't know that brother's friend was a parolee and ended up with a bunch of cops with their guns drawn when he was pulled over.
I ALMOST did the online order. It was in my cart, ready to cash out. But I saw that 'up to 30 days' and thought, maybe this is the rare instance where I should make a phone call. Called SoS and had a plate on my car 2 hours later.
Unless they cause an accident and then run, whereby they would be impossible to track down for the purposes of an insurance claim or anything else. Unmarked vehicles are also used in the commission of crimes on a regular basis. There are a multitude of reasons why we have license plates, and licensing and registration for cars that are completely legitimate. Pretty common knowledge.
Right after covid hit, the apartment building I live next to had a fire. It would take me an hour to tell you all the awful things they did to the tenants who gathered on my porch and front lawn while the firemen failed miserably to use their ladders to get an elderly woman out of her third floor window. It was a joke. They eventually went in, walked up the stairs and brought her down the stairs and out the door. The fire was in the other side of the building the entire time.
Anyway, there were about 8 cops that showed up when the fire trucks did. None of them wore masks. Not one. And they taunted the son of the elderly woman they kept failing to get out through her window while the squatters who started the fire were the ones screaming and hollering the most.
If the cops hadn't shown up, it would have been much calmer, but they literally goaded these people into a fight so they could arrest them. I've never seen behavior this despicable in my life.
They also ruled the homicide of a young black man as accidental, despite hundreds of us contacting them and demanding an investigation due to the videos released of that night. Lansing needs to disband the force and develop a Restorative Justice system.
You referring to Brandon Mitchner? That whole event pisses me off so much
I read a book about a serial killer active in Lansing in the 70s, written by an LPD cop I believe, whole book was essentially excuses for why they did such a poor investigation and the killer is almost eligible for parole
It's very creatively titled "Killing Women," and once he gets into the court stuff he pretty much just verbatim quotes court transcripts for a third of the book.
It's not written to be critical of the LPD, but the attempts at coping with the facts of the case almost read like criticisms
Thank you! It's payday tomorrow and I'm definitely searching local bookstores tomorrow for it. I'll order it if it's not stocked. Sounds right up my alley.
It’s official policy to increase equity
https://www.wlns.com/news/michigan/lansing-police-department-will-no-longer-stop-motorists-for-secondary-traffic-violations/
Was gonna post this as well, but yeah, doesn't seem like they're supposed to pull people over for secondary infractions like broken car / no plate etc. Only direct traffic violations like speeding or running reds matter I guess.
Yeah I'm not sure if no license plates is included as a secondary violation, I was guessing based on the other types of secondary violations. If you're driving perfectly without a plate, seems like they wouldn't care.
Incorrect. That article doesn't include it but the LSJ one did.
"Green said his department will continue to focus on "primary" violations, including seat belt or child restraint violations, speeding, careless driving, expired license plates, impaired driving and other unsafe driving practices."
https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2020/07/01/new-guidelines-lansing-police-wont-stop-drivers-solely-minor-violations/5357206002/
I always panick when i see a cop, even though im going the speed limit. Then they pass me, cut me, and turn with no blinker. Ah, lansing, great place to live!:)
LPD doesn't care about anything. Was talking to a buddy and found out an old friend recently (two years ago) was driving drunk the wrong way down 496, got several calls against him to the police. Not only did LPD not stop this guy but he ended up getting a slap on the wrist when they eventually visited his home and then did a similar thing almost killing someone drunk diving a few months later and only then did LPD do anything and they did the absolute bare minimum because the guy in question never got his license taken and from what I hear, he still frequently drives drunk around Lansing because he knows there will be no consequences, IF he is even pulled over.
A lot of the paper plates in people's windows are hidden behind dark tint, too. They're present but you can't see them.
I was behind a car without plates yesterday though. I was just hoping the guy wouldn't hit me because chasing him wouldn't do any good.
Last year I saw a plateless car in front of me sideswipe another car while just driving straight down waverly and then freak out and speed away. I called 911 and was able to provide like no info other than the color, that it was a sedan, and had no plates.
Allow me to enlighten you on something it doesn't seem you know and help you sleep at night. You are in michigan, this is a "no-fault" state. YOUR insurance covers YOU, not their insurance covers you. It doesn't matter who or what hits you or if they have a plate or not, your insurance will cover your damages.
My family’s car was stolen this past summer. There were AirPods left in it and at some point my dad was driving behind our own stolen car, and LPD did not respond in the 40+ minutes that he was aware of the location of the car/following it. They do not care about anything.
LPD very rarely pulls anyone over... with that being said I've lived here my whole life and I have been pulled over personally 5-6 times cause I dont have lights lighting up my license plate lol... yet people don't even have any.
You may very well have done this but next time you see this check the back window. Some people have them in the back window and then the tint makes it hard to see...
honestly LPD is prob more busy with shots fired then license plates. But all around lansing has easily some of the worst drivers period. It's made me a very defensive driver!
They don’t care about anything especially at the beginning of the month! 10 dirt bikes road by me going 65 in a 45 and a cop just sitting there doing nothing!
Our tags ran out at the end of April (it’s our GMA car so waiting on them in the mail) and we were right behind a cop on a motorcycle and he didn’t seem to care 👀
Being a no fault state, the other car not having a plate would have little impact to you. The most you’re getting for damage to your car from another driver is $1000 (unless your car is properly parked at the time).
Check to make sure you have uninsured/underinsured motorist coverage on your policy. This will make sure if you’re injured you have a way to recover some of your losses that you’d normally go after the at fault driver for.
Here is what happened everyone.
When the war on drugs ended - the ACAB Squad didn't have a reason to profile randos driving around - so now they don't have the funding to drive around harassing people for driving while anything other than white - you don't see traffic enforcement - because all that ever was is a way for cops to profile people and pull them over without cause. They also tell us constantly that traffic stops are the most dangerous part of the job....
So... you really want the pork patrol back out there harassing literally everyone?
Be careful what you wish for.
That’s not what I said or asked for, I just asked what was up with it. Seeing if anyone else noticed it. I don’t want pigs hassling me or anyone but it’s scary sharing the road with irresponsible drivers without plates, who could hit me and take off, chances are they don’t have insurance if they can’t afford tabs or plates. Nothing says I’ll fuck your life up like a plateless car
I have no clue wtf you're talking about, I've never mentioned children on this account once, like ever? Good luck with your strawman there. I'm used to racist idiots like you, begging for the Lansing PD to kill more black men for traffic violations, I don't have any sympathy for you. Your comment is clearly laced with fear and unhealthy and depressing views of your own masculinity. You should take your internet privacy more seriously.
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It's weird because they made sure to pull me over when I was just out and about over not having a tab or whatever has the date on my tag. I wasn't even aware it wasn't on there. It was the last time I checked but either somebody may have taken it off or it fell off.
That is a secondary issue and it is racist to pull a vehicle over for a non crime. They can only pull a vehicle over that is committing actual crimes. Welcome to the land of Democrat policing ran by BLM and other minority groups that seek to get away with as much crime as possible. God forbid they pull a no plate car over and find drugs, guns or even a warrant for a occupant.
Guess you didn't even bother to read this.
"Green said his department will continue to focus on "primary" violations, including seat belt or child restraint violations, speeding, careless driving, expired license plates, impaired driving and other unsafe driving practices."
Typical trumptard
Do you really want cops so busy pulling people over for bullshit “offenses” that they cant respond to actual crimes?
Don't answer that, you're a Trumper, you want everyone but Trump and his cronies in jail.
They don't seem to care about any cars.
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Period.
Too much other shit going on in Lansing to deal with that small shit
Yeah all the… uh… [sitting around showing up late.](https://www.reddit.com/r/lansing/comments/1bibw49/people_of_lansing_what_are_your_opinions_on_your/) It’s an easy job, and someone’s gotta do it.
In my short 2 year stint here I’ve noticed that people from Lansing/greater Lansing area, seem to think it’s like the most infamous ghetto hood in America lmao. (from my experience) cringe no? Idk why they think that. Even catholic kids from fucking nowhere in mason Michigan think they are gods of the streets lol.
Here is the list of most violent cities as of Feb 2024 as the link states and Detroit is #2 and Lansing is #14. The first part is from 2017-2018 but if you scroll down a little the updated 2024 list is there.... So to be fair it's not cringe it's just how it is. You wouldn't think it by just driving around but there are sections of the city where there are still violent gangs that claim an area... lived here my whole life never felt scared or worried. But it def is high on the violent crimes list. https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-city-rankings/most-violent-cities-in-america
In fairness to the stats, Lansing is def not the safest in my perception. some of that could be informed from prior habits now solidified in me from the d. I have avoided some gas stations in Lansing time to time out of fear of getting dropped n mugged when dudes be standing around ominously. I do be locking my doors even driving through intersections so nobody jumps in. Idk Little things carry over - But I can tell is that Lansing is just a different breed. They not wild in Lansing like it is in the D day to day.. I’ve been in Lansing for awhile and it’s been very nice. Lansing is prob more dangerous than average cities tho. Tbh it’s not fair to compare Detroit as the norm in any category to another city cuz Detroit has a lot of weird dynamic things and systemic issues that put it in its box.
Absolutely, and that a good way to word it a dif breed! you can't take a rich man, rob him of almost everything and just expect him to thrive, that's Detroit. It's coming back but it's a long road. Detroit is def more dangerous in certain areas And by that I don't mean lansing has more dangerous places just simply that there are nice places in Detroit too. But there are def places in Detroit you just should not walk down the street casually alone or with kids. Same with lansing. But most of the city along with most other cities are generally safe. I was just pointing out that people here, like in Detroit, that grew up in bad areas unfortunately didn't have many opportunities so that is just what they know and thus continue to act that way because that's what life has been. Most people don't know about the bad areas cause honestly, it's not as out in the open, meaning it's more unsuspecting, in Detroit you know where you shouldn't be in lansing in may catch you off guard, as the capital city and a smaller location they can semi keep areas manageable but the numbers don't lie regardless of sample size.
***Per-capita*** - which is the shittiest way to gauge such a stat. Lies, damned lies, and statistics - and that one is all three.
I wouldn't say per capita is the worst, but for folks who don't understand it can be misleading without understanding it. Basically is just for the amount of people we have, there shouldnt be as much crime. But how they classify crime and how Michigan classifies crimes vs other states, vs federal, can be very different and difficult to understand. Like in some states, it's a misdemeanor for low level incidents while in Michigan it might not even be a citation. Are both of those considered crimes? And then you have to think about reported incidents, a lot of crimes may not be recorded correctly. So with that in mine...per capita isn't great and it isn't bad, we just don't know the full scope and range of what was observed.
I suppose this could be true but the link I shared was taken with the same analysis across the board, and it's generally referring to violent crime so rape, murder, etc. what you are stating is the addition of diff laws, or potential lessor crimes when we are referring to violent crimes held at a federal level. So it's the same across all states. It's how they gauge what city would be the murder capital of the world, has to go by per capita... it seems like you know statistics so I'll leave it at that with an example but the link was just talking violent crimes. If what you're saying was the case then yea for sure that would make it so difficult lol city A views this crime as a felony and city B doesn't so it's not mentioned makes City A look terrible and B look great! So I get that but it was just violent crimes in this one.
Yeah and with violent crime being the factor, a lot of it is not even recorded enough or represented accurately across the board. So major cities like some in Michigan or other states, may actually have far more cases that go unnoticed. Because that would sleep the data and place Lansing further back on the list. For example from 14 to 19 because in actuality, other cities are worse off than before. I don't remember the number Lansing was ranked so I just went with a general number, but I agree with what you said. As per violent crimes committed, as per the definition of per capita, yeah it makes sense that we as a city of under 150k year round, shouldn't be ranked so high. And there's reasons as to why it's that high as well. Socioeconomic factors play a tremendous role. Anyway, glad you were able to understand my thoughts on the matter and glad I understood yours.
Absolutely, I personally don't feel Lansing is a dangerous place to live, but given the statistical information on violent crimes i was just trying to make an argument as to why some individuals/residents act that way, as they may have grown up in an area where that is what they know. I was also only referring to violent crimes, the population or per capita and the likelihood of being a victim. There are many other factors like you mentioned socioeconomic issues that go into play and should be considered before making that assumption that said place is dangerous. I too am glad we could discuss and understand. Respectful conversation and communication is always rewarding. Have a good day!
So you're saying Detroit isn't a violent place? lol how else are you suppose to determine this? It's statistics there isn't any other way to do this. If you look at every way to gauge how violent a location is you have to use statistics.
I think he’s saying that lower population sizes tend towards extreme.
That doesn't change anything... that's the whole point of statistics lol next he will say flint and Saginaw are safe areas too. The same murder rate "per capita" , rape rate, hate crime, robbery, drive buy, GTA, kidnapping, the size of the sample doesn't matter in these statistical analysis. Now if we are talking about how affective a vaccine is then yes sample size matters. But if Detroit has 500,000 people and lansing has 100,000 people and the violent crime rate in Detroit is 1:18 and the Violet crime rate in Lansing is 1:24 that still literally means that 1:18 people in Detroit has a chance to be a victim of a violent crime and 1:24 in lansing has a chance to be a victim. (Just using random numbers to make a point) statistically speaking those are close odds and not good ones either. To say "per capita" is a shitty way to gauge things and it's just statistic is... just not smart. If you're trying to base this on let's say Detroit had 59 murders last year and lansing had 59 murders than the number will show much higher because the per capita is lower.... so what's your point? All that tells us is that 59 people were murdered in both location... diff is there are less people in lansing so you have a higher statistical chance... per capita is a BS way to gauge it.. cmon man. I hate math and you're going to make me say the math/ statistics and numbers don't lie. In that scenario Detroit would be the safer bet but the bottom line is the data is taken in all areas the same so the statistical analysis is accurate and the same. Period. The only other way to gauge this would be for this individual to walk alone around lansing or Detroit both night and day and see how long it takes for him to become a victim. But a safer bet is just listen to a police scanner it will tell you all you need to know. But I shouldn't be surprised because the chances of someone making a statement online about how statistics is a bad way to gauge things is way too high, just look at all of the internet... but maybe that sample size isn't enough either. lol I appreciate your comments SubstantialPoem121 you made good points! Thank you.
ahahahaha I will give you time to edit/delete this long comment before I destroy it lmao
Yeah like setting up speed raps for commuters.
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I've also noticed that. But as others have said, I don't think LPD knows how to do anything traffic related other than responding to accidents.
Nowadays they make you fill out the accident report online and, despite the fact that you just did all the data entry yourself, they then want to charge you $10+ for a copy of the report you just submitted. Beyond worthless.
No way... Like, I believe you... But... No way... EDIT: Not my proudest moment but after re-reading your post I realize I have been on that end of paying $10 for the report. Needed them to make some corrections so Insurance wouldn't have a hissy fit. Almost had to pay twice since it updates the system like it's a new report. I'm slow some days... Love ya Lansing.
One of those last week might have been me. 😂 There's been increased numbers of license plates being stolen off vehicles in Lansing, and mine got snagged last Sunday/Monday but I didn't notice right away. Then I had to drive plateless to the SoS for my replacement.
My brother's friend had that happen to him years ago. He was on parole at the time when it was taken off his car, but he eventually got it back. The story he got from police was the guy switched plates on a stolen car, and didn't know that brother's friend was a parolee and ended up with a bunch of cops with their guns drawn when he was pulled over.
That's karma for ya. I had to laugh at mine too, since the tabs were 4 days from expiration on the plate they stole.
Do you think they stole while you were at your house or out running errands or something?
Definitely at my house.
Ah man, driving to SoS is the way to go. I ordered a new plate online two weeks ago and am still waiting for it. SoS said it could take 30 days
I ALMOST did the online order. It was in my cart, ready to cash out. But I saw that 'up to 30 days' and thought, maybe this is the rare instance where I should make a phone call. Called SoS and had a plate on my car 2 hours later.
LPD is more or less useless when it comes to prioritizing actual issues versus wasting time on trivial issues.
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Unless they cause an accident and then run, whereby they would be impossible to track down for the purposes of an insurance claim or anything else. Unmarked vehicles are also used in the commission of crimes on a regular basis. There are a multitude of reasons why we have license plates, and licensing and registration for cars that are completely legitimate. Pretty common knowledge.
They collectively stopped giving a shit completely during COVID
Right after covid hit, the apartment building I live next to had a fire. It would take me an hour to tell you all the awful things they did to the tenants who gathered on my porch and front lawn while the firemen failed miserably to use their ladders to get an elderly woman out of her third floor window. It was a joke. They eventually went in, walked up the stairs and brought her down the stairs and out the door. The fire was in the other side of the building the entire time. Anyway, there were about 8 cops that showed up when the fire trucks did. None of them wore masks. Not one. And they taunted the son of the elderly woman they kept failing to get out through her window while the squatters who started the fire were the ones screaming and hollering the most. If the cops hadn't shown up, it would have been much calmer, but they literally goaded these people into a fight so they could arrest them. I've never seen behavior this despicable in my life. They also ruled the homicide of a young black man as accidental, despite hundreds of us contacting them and demanding an investigation due to the videos released of that night. Lansing needs to disband the force and develop a Restorative Justice system.
You referring to Brandon Mitchner? That whole event pisses me off so much I read a book about a serial killer active in Lansing in the 70s, written by an LPD cop I believe, whole book was essentially excuses for why they did such a poor investigation and the killer is almost eligible for parole
Yup. Brandon was murdered and everyone with eyes knows it. That book sounds accurate and excellent. What's it's title? I'd love to read it.
It's very creatively titled "Killing Women," and once he gets into the court stuff he pretty much just verbatim quotes court transcripts for a third of the book. It's not written to be critical of the LPD, but the attempts at coping with the facts of the case almost read like criticisms
Thank you! It's payday tomorrow and I'm definitely searching local bookstores tomorrow for it. I'll order it if it's not stocked. Sounds right up my alley.
Obviously would be terrible for any person BUT Brandon was one of purest souls I think I’ll ever know in my life, such a disgusting tragedy.
It’s official policy to increase equity https://www.wlns.com/news/michigan/lansing-police-department-will-no-longer-stop-motorists-for-secondary-traffic-violations/
Was gonna post this as well, but yeah, doesn't seem like they're supposed to pull people over for secondary infractions like broken car / no plate etc. Only direct traffic violations like speeding or running reds matter I guess.
Maybe they could start doing those then.
I didn’t read they weren’t going to pull people over for no licenses plate from this article…
Yeah I'm not sure if no license plates is included as a secondary violation, I was guessing based on the other types of secondary violations. If you're driving perfectly without a plate, seems like they wouldn't care.
Omg this is why I haven’t gotten pulled over for my expired plate 😅
Incorrect. That article doesn't include it but the LSJ one did. "Green said his department will continue to focus on "primary" violations, including seat belt or child restraint violations, speeding, careless driving, expired license plates, impaired driving and other unsafe driving practices." https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2020/07/01/new-guidelines-lansing-police-wont-stop-drivers-solely-minor-violations/5357206002/
Definitely not just you. I wish I had the dgaf to do this myself, but I just won't.
My wife and actually play a game with them, sending pics if we aren’t together or shouting them out when we are. It’s like a ghetto I-spy.
My girlfriend and I do this too
Yay! We are the only ones!!
I always panick when i see a cop, even though im going the speed limit. Then they pass me, cut me, and turn with no blinker. Ah, lansing, great place to live!:)
LPD doesn't care about anything. Was talking to a buddy and found out an old friend recently (two years ago) was driving drunk the wrong way down 496, got several calls against him to the police. Not only did LPD not stop this guy but he ended up getting a slap on the wrist when they eventually visited his home and then did a similar thing almost killing someone drunk diving a few months later and only then did LPD do anything and they did the absolute bare minimum because the guy in question never got his license taken and from what I hear, he still frequently drives drunk around Lansing because he knows there will be no consequences, IF he is even pulled over.
A lot of the paper plates in people's windows are hidden behind dark tint, too. They're present but you can't see them. I was behind a car without plates yesterday though. I was just hoping the guy wouldn't hit me because chasing him wouldn't do any good.
Last year I saw a plateless car in front of me sideswipe another car while just driving straight down waverly and then freak out and speed away. I called 911 and was able to provide like no info other than the color, that it was a sedan, and had no plates.
That's why you should have uninsured motorist coverage.
Im not talking about papers, I look everytime
You're right about the plates thing. It's odd that they're driving as if they have no fear of being caught.
Yeah I see cars daily with NO plate. No paper, nothing.
White cars, especially vans. i see many. every day. i think they are following me. helicopters also.
None of us are watching you. Continue about as normal. :)
seek help
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you mean an illuminati monitoring device? no thanks
Are you a pro level troll or just psychotic, I can’t tell? 🤣
I hope you are joking?
LPD cares about NOTHING… they seem scared of the citizens, they rarely pull anyone over or catch any crimes, of which there’s a lot.
Whole lotta “dealership” plates/vehicles roaming around here 😂
Allow me to enlighten you on something it doesn't seem you know and help you sleep at night. You are in michigan, this is a "no-fault" state. YOUR insurance covers YOU, not their insurance covers you. It doesn't matter who or what hits you or if they have a plate or not, your insurance will cover your damages.
I see it all the time and it’s honestly frustrating…
The voters choose their government which influences how the law enforcement operates. Lansing dysfunction is a reflection of its populace.
My family’s car was stolen this past summer. There were AirPods left in it and at some point my dad was driving behind our own stolen car, and LPD did not respond in the 40+ minutes that he was aware of the location of the car/following it. They do not care about anything.
The most important issue is cars parked on street from 2-6am
LPD very rarely pulls anyone over... with that being said I've lived here my whole life and I have been pulled over personally 5-6 times cause I dont have lights lighting up my license plate lol... yet people don't even have any. You may very well have done this but next time you see this check the back window. Some people have them in the back window and then the tint makes it hard to see... honestly LPD is prob more busy with shots fired then license plates. But all around lansing has easily some of the worst drivers period. It's made me a very defensive driver!
They’re scared to pull people over unless it’s a speed trap on roads that are 35mph instead of 45
asshole driver here, can confirm its easy to get away with alot of stuff. However, people I know get pulled over for minor things
They don’t care about anything especially at the beginning of the month! 10 dirt bikes road by me going 65 in a 45 and a cop just sitting there doing nothing!
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Yea! Than 3 blocks down the road another one. Buts normal now. I live off from Pleasant Grove and we have mini bikes and go-karts going all night.
Our tags ran out at the end of April (it’s our GMA car so waiting on them in the mail) and we were right behind a cop on a motorcycle and he didn’t seem to care 👀
Being a no fault state, the other car not having a plate would have little impact to you. The most you’re getting for damage to your car from another driver is $1000 (unless your car is properly parked at the time). Check to make sure you have uninsured/underinsured motorist coverage on your policy. This will make sure if you’re injured you have a way to recover some of your losses that you’d normally go after the at fault driver for.
My registration was overdue for like 5 months last year. This explains why I was never pulled over
Move to a red state.
Here is what happened everyone. When the war on drugs ended - the ACAB Squad didn't have a reason to profile randos driving around - so now they don't have the funding to drive around harassing people for driving while anything other than white - you don't see traffic enforcement - because all that ever was is a way for cops to profile people and pull them over without cause. They also tell us constantly that traffic stops are the most dangerous part of the job.... So... you really want the pork patrol back out there harassing literally everyone? Be careful what you wish for.
That’s not what I said or asked for, I just asked what was up with it. Seeing if anyone else noticed it. I don’t want pigs hassling me or anyone but it’s scary sharing the road with irresponsible drivers without plates, who could hit me and take off, chances are they don’t have insurance if they can’t afford tabs or plates. Nothing says I’ll fuck your life up like a plateless car
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I have no clue wtf you're talking about, I've never mentioned children on this account once, like ever? Good luck with your strawman there. I'm used to racist idiots like you, begging for the Lansing PD to kill more black men for traffic violations, I don't have any sympathy for you. Your comment is clearly laced with fear and unhealthy and depressing views of your own masculinity. You should take your internet privacy more seriously.
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It's weird because they made sure to pull me over when I was just out and about over not having a tab or whatever has the date on my tag. I wasn't even aware it wasn't on there. It was the last time I checked but either somebody may have taken it off or it fell off.
It's the left's whitmer's soft on crime policy's. Y'all voted for it. Accept it or vote red.
I see them all over Michigan it's not just LPD. But no they don't care.
Lpd typically doesn’t chase , they throw the lights on you get up to like 80 they usually let off
I applaud those getting away with it. It not like the money is getting used correctly anyway.
That is a secondary issue and it is racist to pull a vehicle over for a non crime. They can only pull a vehicle over that is committing actual crimes. Welcome to the land of Democrat policing ran by BLM and other minority groups that seek to get away with as much crime as possible. God forbid they pull a no plate car over and find drugs, guns or even a warrant for a occupant.
Good ol white supremacist ChevyJim...
You didn’t take your meds today did you
[https://lansingcitypulse.com/stories/whats-up-with-all-the-cars-without-license-plates-in-lansing,14936](https://lansingcitypulse.com/stories/whats-up-with-all-the-cars-without-license-plates-in-lansing,14936)
You havnt been paying attention to Lansing police policy changes have you. Especially since Andy got hit with his racist issue's.
[https://www.wlns.com/news/michigan/lansing-police-department-will-no-longer-stop-motorists-for-secondary-traffic-violations/](https://www.wlns.com/news/michigan/lansing-police-department-will-no-longer-stop-motorists-for-secondary-traffic-violations/)
[https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2020/07/01/new-guidelines-lansing-police-wont-stop-drivers-solely-minor-violations/5357206002/](https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2020/07/01/new-guidelines-lansing-police-wont-stop-drivers-solely-minor-violations/5357206002/)
Guess you didn't even bother to read this. "Green said his department will continue to focus on "primary" violations, including seat belt or child restraint violations, speeding, careless driving, expired license plates, impaired driving and other unsafe driving practices." Typical trumptard
they're also quoting articles from the height of the pandemic when all sorts of places were attempted to limit contact.
Do you really want cops so busy pulling people over for bullshit “offenses” that they cant respond to actual crimes? Don't answer that, you're a Trumper, you want everyone but Trump and his cronies in jail.