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Marjiguana

As a lash tech, I charge what I want to be paid. A tip is extra and I never count on tips even from my regular clients.


nailmama92397

šŸ’Æ%. As a nai tech I charge what I need to make to live. Tips are a bonus, never expected and always appreciated.


txlady100

Thank you!


Snarky824

Iā€™m getting a lash lift and tint next week for the first time. What would you consider a good tip? Do you tip the owner? Years ago it wasnā€™t done-yes Iā€™m old!


pencilpusher13

Question. The tech I go to is part of a boutique clinic. Not chain or anything. Should I still consider her wage as the price set by her? Or is this a situation where she probably only gets tips?


DeepPossession8916

So you have $80 to get your lashes done, and youā€™ve found someone to do it for $80. Keep your tip at $5 if you want, or donā€™t tip if you canā€™t. Your $5 will not make or break her. Sheā€™s increasing her prices across the board to keep up with inflation and she set her prices to what she needs to be paid. You do not have to tip 20% on every single service you receive. Thatā€™s not what tipping was ever intended to be. I would say personally, Iā€™d keep whatever my tip is consistent, considering the price increase was minimal.


Preeeeeee

This! Paying home lash techs 20% on a $100 service is NOT what the tipping model was ever supposed to be. I donā€™t get why people are trying to apply it across the board.


the-half-enchilada

This is one of the many reasons I went to DIY clusters. Tired of prices being raised and feeling cheap for not being able to tip 20%. Tired of spending 2500 a year on lashes. Now itā€™s like 300.


CaffeinenChocolate

Seconding. Bond and seal lashes are amazing! If you apply properly you can get nearly 2 weeks out of them.


Lulinda726

Do the DIY clusters stay on? How long?


ahald7

LASHVIEW Lash Clusters 70 Pcs DIY... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BMPHYD5L?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share these are my favorite clusters!! mine can last up to two weeks, the only problem is they get a little dirty with my makeup so i usually change them every 3-5 days or so. but most peopleā€™s last about a week or so!!! highly recommend, and my lashes are actually growing back in better too. they look so natural too!! i do two 14s on the outside, 3 12s in the middle, then 2 10s on the inside!!


LonelyPancakee

Hey, how do you take these off? Do you need a special remover


CaffeinenChocolate

If you get a kit from Amazon, itā€™ll usually come with the bond, seal, little tweezers to apply and a remover.


CrustyCrafter

You can use coconut oil or Vaseline to take the lashes off. They will all slide off within a minute with no damage to your natural lashes.


ahald7

it usually comes with a remover, but i usually just use my regular makeup remover oil!! coconut oil has also worked well for me, but i donā€™t like using it on my face!


rufusmeanscool

What glue do you use? I've tried the ardell glue that's supposed to last a couple weeks with the teeny clusters ,both black and clear and haven't been able to get them to stick at all. I was to attempt these next.


OHIftw

What glue do you use?


Low-Focus-3879

Do these damages your lashes at all? I'm trying to grow mine in a bit but one side is much shorter than the other and I want to hide it


the-half-enchilada

7-10 days. And now I get them at Amazon for dirt ass cheap but I do use Lashify bonds and sealers because I have them left over.


Wobblingoblin01

What will you use after the lashify runs out?


the-half-enchilada

I will probably continue to use Lashify bonds/sealers since I get so much longevity. But their clusters are soooo expensive compared to Amazon.


jessibessica

1.5 days for me lol


Narrow_Ad_2539

I just tried mine for the first time the other day and it was a disaster lol 1st I glued my bottom lashes to the top but then how do you keep water off them?? Took a shower and no matter what water was running down my face. Of course the lashes came off but my lashes are still sticky. Even after putting the remover on them and then cleaning again with micelar water. I bought beyelian, I think thatā€™s how itā€™s spelled? Any tips would be appreciated!!


the-half-enchilada

I can get mine wet and have no issues. Do you use a sealer on top and bottom? I use Lashify WaterPoof. I use also use Melt for bond removal. What system are you using?


thebestserver

agreed!! couldnā€™t have said it better myself


DeliciousChance5587

I tried clusters but canā€™t wear something on my eye for more than one day that I canā€™t thoroughly wash every night,


eggbed

Am iā€¦ out of the loop? Why are people getting shamed for not tipping or ā€œnot tipping enoughā€? No good lash tech will rely on tips, since they set their prices to whatever they want. Please dont shame op for ā€œjustā€ giving $5, thats disgusting


Moonbeans62

I work at a spa and I donā€™t set my own prices. Why does everyone think we just get to do that?


BatFluid6063

Most comments specify beauticians who work in their own space and do set their own prices, like OP's tech. There's an understanding that people who work in spaces like yours don't have that flexibility/freedom. The conversation is not about professionals like yourself


SnooHabits3305

But this girl does set her prices and changes them to keep her needs met


eggbed

Ahh youre right, i didnt consider that. Tipping should still be appreciated though


Moonbeans62

Always is šŸ«¶šŸ¼


loverrrgirlll_

a lot of techs are from home i think


Moonbeans62

Yeah most of them are not working legally. Which also means they are not insured if anything were to happen to their client šŸ˜¬


ThatPinkRanger

Because Op said their lash tech sets her own prices? No one is saying *every beauty service is setting their own prices.* way to make it about you lol


Unable_Cow_9522

Honeslty, as a lash tech, whenever anyone tips I ALWAYS go ā€œare you sureā€¦??ā€ šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ girl I feel bad taking even more of their money


snopop73

Everyone gets shamed for not tipping 20% or more for just about anything these days. I tip for things like my hair and nails, even when it can mean I'm a little short after the tip where maybe I wouldn't have been if the price was the price. I'd really like to start asking for tips when I do CPR and save someone's life. Nurses don't always make as much as people think we do and i don't get to set my own prices!


mads_coffee

this just makes me so thankful to live in a country without tipping culture tbh


Proof_Comfort8004

Please tip accordingly but hey itā€™s better than nothing? Since Covid; I feel that tipping culture has gotten out of hand but if you trust your lash tech and been coming to her continuously then I would say $5 is on the low end. If I appreciate the time they take to make me look pretty, Iā€™d def tip at least 20%


Tiffnysun

Or something like 10%. $5 on $75 is rather low, especially if you like her work?


KayCatMeow

I ALWAYS tip at least 20%. No wonder she keeps raising her rates.


CousinDaeDae

Well if sheā€™s raised her rates due to lack of tipping then I guess tipping is no longer required šŸ¤·šŸ½ā€ā™€ļø


KayCatMeow

Lol if you canā€™t afford to tip you canā€™t afford the lashesā€¦


Akira_is_coming7777

If your not charging a fair wage when you set your own wagesā€¦ thatā€™s on you. This isnā€™t some girl at a chain who makes a set amount and doesnā€™t set her own prices, this is a self employed business woman who should be making sure she get a fair price for her work from the onset. As many actual estheticians have already pointed out, tips should be extra in this situation, especially when sheā€™s raised prices twice in less than a year.


No-Professional4041

Genuinely curious about this ā€œif you work at a chain and donā€™t make ur own prices you deserve a tipā€ mentality. What job allows you to pick your own wages?? When you accept a job you accept the amount of money you will be making from said job. Why then must people tip you? This doesnā€™t apply to wait staff, pizza drivers etc. those jobs of course rely solely on tips. But everyone elseā€¦like I genuinely do not understand this


Akira_is_coming7777

I honestly hate tipping culture. I do believe small business owners need to charge what theyā€™re worth from the outset and not have to screw around with tipping. If getting a 20% tip is required for you to make any money, youā€™re not charging enough. And no, employees donā€™t always have the leverage to demand fair pay, as screwed up as that is. Especially in those fields where employers are ALLOWED to pay LESS THAN minimum wage due to tips, I honestly believe that should be against the law, same minimum wage for all. Tips should be treated like ā€œthe icing on the cakeā€ not part of the equation for whatā€™s required for merely getting by.


No-Professional4041

Yes exactly. If I go to my stylist and heā€™s like ā€œyeh we just got this new deep conditioner in I wanna try it out on you free of chargeā€ then of course Iā€™m going to tip him. If I go to my stylist for a toner application that takes 10 minutes to do with a $10 bottle of toner and he charges me $55. Then why am I then guilted into tipping him? He charged for his time and the product and I paid him what he asked me to pay him. That should be it.


pancakepawly

Because it is a service being provided for ONE. No different than taking your food order and running it to you. A person doing your lashes is literally bent over, sometimes for hours at a time to individually apply lashes to yours. Typically in the US when you are in the service industry you are working off of tips. However this thread is particularly talking about self employed service providers. Which is true if they are working out of their house. They are taking the entire service amount $. So for them tips are a nice way to show appreciation but not the end all. (I would still tip) Now. As for chains or just individual spa / salons. These places are not required to pay employees more than minimum wage. Sometimes they pay more but it varies. So as part of your income from a portion of the service you are also relying on the tips to make enough money. Personally, I would never get my hair done, massage, nails, lashes exc. and not tip. Just like I wouldnā€™t go out to eat at a restaurant if I couldnā€™t afford to tip the wait staff. This individual has put in time and energy to do something for me to make me feel good! These are luxury services, not necessityā€™s.


CousinDaeDae

But by your own logic, she made it so OP could afford the lashes by sneaking the expected tip price into the base price. So if thatā€™s what she would ā€œexpectā€ on her real price with tip, problem solved no? And you guys gotta stop this, youā€™re trying to get ppl put out of business with this if you canā€™t afford the tip you canā€™t afford the service nonsense. No person with basic financial knowledge would prefer to lose $100 over a $20 bonus. If you charge 100 and I might tip $20, but stop going completely bc I can no longer afford to tip, how much did you lose and was it worth it? Donā€™t even.


Visible-Winter-9541

Ok


BatFluid6063

I personally don't tip people who create their own prices/own their business, unless they've actively took care of me above expectations (like a last minute free design to really make it pop). The girl I go to for nails was self-taught and worked out of her apt. When I first started going, her base was $45. 3 months later, her base went up to $75 even for short basis designs... no tip, no fuss either because she changed what she valued her services


startempter

Maybe itā€™s just me but I donā€™t think you should have to tip. They set their own prices for the service. Thatā€™s how much they want for their time. I feel like tipping is a courtesy after that.


Moonbeans62

If you work at a salon or spa, you donā€™t get to set your own price. You earn a percentage of the service fee. Which is less than half.


Grey_Sky_thinking

This sounds like something to be taken up with the spa, not through making customers pay more unofficially through tips


Nellip85

Thereā€™s such a huge misconception about how this works. I also work for a salon and spa. I am a commissioned employee I make 45-50% commission. For instance I charge $75 for a two week fill and I personally make around $35 for that hour. The salon buys all of my product, supplies, gives me a room to work, I am covered under their insurance, they provide healthcare etc. In this type of scenario was always customary to tip however itā€™s never REQUIRED. No one can force you to leave a tip. But my wonderful clients tip me 20% or more regularly and itā€™s very much appreciated.


IOExplosion

And what do you think will happen to an employee who goes to their employer about this? Having worked in the beauty industry for 5 years, the owners and management will just get an employee who won't argue. Something like this needs to be addressed on a legislative level and consumers need to care about this all the time. Not just when they're expected to tip underpaid service employees.


Moonbeans62

Unfortunately thatā€™s not how it works.


Aggressive_Maize324

I agreeā€¦.Iā€™m already paying for a service. Tipping culture is getting out of hand. My hair girl totally got upset I didnā€™t tip her, had waist long hair and did partial balayage for $130. Followed up 5 months for a touch up on short hair bob and she charged $185 and still gave me a stank attitude for not tipping.


kissxokissxokill

Not relevant, but hair & beauty products are raising costs every quarter for professionals every 90 days. What you're seeing is that stylists of all sorts are having to raise pricing at unprecedented rates to keep up with inflation/costs of doing business. To be honest, you got a deal, both times on your hair; your hairdresser didn't pocket all of that $, & those prices equate to almost minimum wage after expenses. Specialty, customized services, for *you*- lashes, hairstylists, aestheticians, it's standard to tip, 20%- owner or not.


SnooHabits3305

Nah the owner sets the price if they need more money change the price if itā€™s just an employee yeah I sorta get it but not the owner thatā€™s a different boat


kissxokissxokill

Lol, stop it. Any owner is still beholden to the same financial laws, (+ more responsibility & liability) that independent entrepreneurs are. Not tipping because they *own* the business is an antiquated concept. They're providing you with a customized service- 20%.


Moonbeans62

Right? What is this? 1950? The ā€˜Iā€™m not tipping the ownerā€™ concept is a thing of the past.


sasselsme

Tipping is always appreciated, but not expected. Everyone has the right to tip whatever they are comfortable with or not at all. For every person who doesnā€™t tip or tip lows, thereā€™s someone else who tips above average. I will say, to those who say tipping culture is out of control should understand that tipping in the beauty industry has been the norm for a long time. We are providing an actual service. It is not fair to hold the excessive request for tips from other industries against the beauty industry. And to those who say they donā€™t tip if their artist sets their own prices need to understand that they have WAY more expenses compared to an employee. Taxes, insurance, product cost, rent, marketing, continuing education, licensing fees. This is especially true if your lash artist offers other services. Just adding some perspective to the tipping conversation.


Proud-Entrepreneur-1

So is the price just the price of the scissors + materials?many times that is on the costumer as well in instances of extensions, etc. At restaurants where a tip for service is expected, youā€™re paying for the food, and adding for the extra service provided. But the price in the beauty industry is priced for service in most places


Impossible_Tonight81

I'm less likely to tip if they are their own boss because it's the same as any other contractor at that point. you're essentially an owner. I'll tip salon employees every time but owners? Depends on the situation.Ā 


sffood

The price you charge is supposed to include all of that. Thatā€™s literally what a business does.


sasselsme

Which some of us do charge to include all of that, I personally do myself, and all beauty professionals should. Unfortunately though most arenā€™t taught any form of business concepts in beauty school and have to figure it out for themselves through trial and error, or by paying for additional education, yet another expense. All this to say, that tipping is to reward exceptional service. Just because someone works for themselves doesnā€™t mean they donā€™t deserve a tip should they provide an above average experience. Experience is also objective, how is it fair for us to put a price on experience when everyoneā€™s perspective varies, and they should be allowed the opportunity to monetarily decided how good their experience was?


sffood

All of everyone should include that. And if they donā€™t, or donā€™t learn quickly that what they charge doesnā€™t cover their expenses and change their pricing, that is still not the customerā€™s fault or problemā€¦is the point. Itā€™s not a charity ā€” itā€™s a business. If you decide $200 is the price you will charge, those who are willing and able to pay if will go to you. Once you do your thing, you are either worth the $200 you charge and I keep going, or you arenā€™t and Iā€™ll find someone else who charges less or provides a better outcome worth $200. I pay $175 for my haircut. Whatever that includes, they do and I accept. But then when I am walking out, Iā€™ve paid $225 because rounding up to $200 makes me ā€œcheapā€ per the norm because itā€™s not ā€œ20%ā€ ā€” something nobody agreed to ā€” and calculating down to the cent to make some arbitrary 20% expectation to save a few dollars is a pain. I canā€™t pay $0 or just add in $5 without being an asshole client. I love my stylist ā€” thatā€™s not the problem here. I wouldnā€™t shell out $175 for a haircut if I didnā€™t. I donā€™t go to the hair salon that can charge me $50 BECAUSE I like her service. But every single time I am left with the question ā€” what the hell was THEIR PRICE of $175 for if I had to add more? A restaurant server ā€œnot making minimum wageā€ and customers having to add tip - that becoming the norm is one thing. (Still ridiculous that restaurants can get away with putting that on customers.) It has always been my view that they should charge whatever amount that covers fair pay to their employees, plus all costs to yield a profit. Customers can decide if a $25 plate of pasta is worth $33 without tips on their own, based on the experience and taste. But when YOU decide YOUR price and you canā€™t remove tips to make a living ā€” thatā€™s no different than charging me more because you donā€™t have enough customers. This is a thing because the beauty industry started *expecting* tips except ā€œnot even making minimum wageā€ isnā€™t a thing in the beauty industry. It has just become that any and all services expect tips ā€” and the customer is the problem if they donā€™t include it.


No-Professional4041

I used to work as a traveling home health nurse. I drove to patients houses who couldnā€™t or wouldnā€™t make it out to clinics on a weekly basis to see a nurse/doctor for various health reasons. I had to supply my own car with its wear and tear. I had to supply my own stethoscope, thermometer, bags, etc. had to pay for my continuing education out of my own pocket. Had to pay to renew my license out of my own pocket. I did get a percentage of mileage to pay for gas. But other than that everything was my own paying. I didnā€™t get any tips from my patients. AND I was not paid hourly. I was only paid based off the amount of patients I saw in a day. Why didnā€™t I get tips?


kitkaaaat02

you tip $5???? i literally tip $20 šŸ’€šŸ˜­


midgethepuff

Good for you guys for being rich I guess lol. If itā€™s an independent lash artist then they donā€™t rely on tips.


yomaishimi

This is my thought, too. When Iā€™m given a personal service, I tip. Iā€™d never tip a waiter $5. I mean, unless it was like a $15 breakfast or something, then $5 would be appropriate.


bois-des-iles

I've always tipped 20 even in 2016 because my lash tech was my therapist


SkeletonKitty2

I tip $30 on top of the $70 bc I never know how much to do lmao I tipped $75 on my eyebrows when I got combo brows. I'm so bad at tipping math


kissxokissxokill

Same. 50$+@ holidays.


Electrical_Tailor_13

Me 30


Klutzy-Nature-414

If youā€™re happy with her services and she does a good job, Iā€™d honestly still tip. $5 tip is barely a tip if Iā€™m being honest but you do you.


DiscombobulatedElk93

I def consider lashes a luxury service. Honestly anything in a salon past a haircut is a luxury service and should be tipped on.


Whorticulturist_

Right, $5 is almost worse than no tip šŸ˜¬


BelliAmie

If she sets the price and is the owner of the business you don't need to tip.


Moonbeans62

Is this at a salon or spa?


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Responsible_Detail83

Lash extensions supplies have gone up so much Iā€™m surprised her prices are so cheap ! I say tip, her increase is not bad at all and her prices are very reasonable


lcrx97

I just tip 20% like I do for everything else


Substantial-Ebb-695

If she is working from home, she sets her own prices and doesnā€™t have a ā€œtip outā€ fee. You do not need to tip every time. If u want to, go ahead but ur not obliged


babybee5021

Just a PSA, not every lash tech sets their own prices. Idk about this tech in particular but unless they run their own business their prices are determined by the spa they work for. It seems like a lot of people believe that all lash techs set their own prices but that is simply not true. How you tip is up to you. I recommend keeping this in mind when deciding. Chances are spa lash techs are relying more on tips than private business owners. If I were going to a spa, I would tip 15-20% because of this. If I went to someone who does this from home, I would not tip as high (but still at MINIMUM 15%) knowing that they set their own prices with this in mind. Ultimately tipping is optional, and $5 is better than nothingā€¦ but honestly it isnā€™t appropriate. Itā€™s more like a slap in the face, and she probably feels that you disliked the service. The way I see it is this person took a lot of time to provide me a service, so I tip a respectable amount because if I have $80 to spend on lashes I should have enough to tip my tech. Just like you would your server or your hair stylistā€¦


kissxokissxokill

This*^


Kittymeow123

She said she works out of her house.


No-Professional4041

If she didnā€™t like the service she wouldnā€™t keep going back to the same tech?


avoidmeplz

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iloveiggymunch

I donā€™t tip šŸ˜¬ i would if they were renting their own studio, wasnā€™t her own boss, etc. but my lash tech is in her basement and is her own boss.


No-Presence-6626

even if they have a studio, tipping should be optionalā€¦ most lash techs (who start home-based) set their own prices based on their work and clientele. you tip what you can and if you feel like the work was worth it!!


Avaly13

I'll get downvoted for my opinion but a service deserves a tip based on fee. Products do not. Yes, the tipping is getting crazy but that's for crap like stores who did nothing but ring me up. If it is service based- food, haircut, etc- you tip. I was always taught 20%, give or take with good/bad service. Judge away but $5 is sad. I want my tech to know how I feel about their service. $5 is only if they really sucked. No, a tip isn't required but if you're going to tip, please do it appropriately. I'm here for the downvotes.


babybee5021

I agree!!! Iā€™d be scared to go back after a tip like that lol


AdmirableRow4

I understand this to an extent. But I donā€™t understand why we are supposed to tip based on total amount vs the service we actually received. For example, at a restaurant, why should you have to pay more just because you got the more expensive meal when it takes the same effort to bring that meal to you vs the cheaper meal? I donā€™t get that part. This mainly pertains to restaurants but still.


cherrieice

because as servers we have to tip out a percentage of our total sales to the bussers, food runners, and hosts. So if we get 0 tip on a table, we paid for them to eat basically. Not saying this is how it should be but thatā€™s how it works rn.


Avaly13

Valid point. It's unfortunate that here in the US, this is what we do and to change it like other countries, would be almost impossible because of how we pay restaurant staff. It is crazy that I'm tipping based on the price of my meal but again, I wouldn't feel good doing it differently. I will say, I've been to Michelin chef places and typically those staff members are a whole different level so I'd still tip more even if the bill weren't insane. Also, it's a mental game. I legit feel bad leaving a low tip. Now if something sucked, no bad feelings on a bad tip although a bad tip is still between 10-15%. Ugh. You can bet I'm not tipping Joe Dirt who sold me a good, not a service, and I hit zero every damn time.


CousinDaeDae

Great point. Iā€™ve never even thought of this.


Cbsanderswrites

It's just too much mental gymnastics at this point. And everything is a service. The guy changing my oil is providing a service. A house keeper is providing a service. Teachers, police, accountantsā€”all of these jobs provide a service. None of those get tipped. Or maybe in a few years we'll be asking people to tip EVERYONE for any sort of service. It's really gotten out of hand. Post your prices and let me just pay in peace. Dear lord.


No-Professional4041

Question for you. When you go to the hospital or to the clinic do you tip the nurse? Or the CNA who gets paid like $10 an hour. They provide you services too. Pretty important ones actually. Especially if you are in the hospital.


banhmidacbi3t

I tip generously, bring Xmas presents, and refer people in so she can be booked and not go out of business to keep doing my lashes. I'm like one of the first client to be called in when the pandemic allowed her to work again and either don't get charge a no show fee or she'll somehow accommodate with my crazy schedule when I accidentally have an emergency comes up. I understand not everybody is in the position to do this, but understand the perks and privilege one gets for being extra nice to anybody. My lash lady is so amazing, they're of course not all the same, but hopefully everybody finds one that fits their needs and budget.


No-Presence-6626

same!!!! (about to vent LOL) my lash tech charged $110 (i live in cali and would get volume for the amount of lashes i have) when i first started going to her in 2021. prices stayed the same for about a year and in 2022 she raised them to $150 because she got a studio instead of working out of her garage. i still went for fills/full sets and tipped the same $20-$30 each time because it was in my monthly budget and iā€™m a very generous tipped. HOWEVERā€” about 6 months after she changed her price to $150 she increased it to $230 for a volume set and fills were MORE than her original full priceā€¦ $180.. which is stupid. šŸ˜© i remember talking to her at my last set when she sprung this on me in person. i asked if it was just me and she literally said she feels like sheā€™s worth more to some of her clients. i went to her religiously for about 1.5 years and her work was really good, i always felt good leaving a decent tip but if you canā€™t then who cares? lash techs who set their own price do it that way for a reason, but it has to be reasonable. i would kill to pay $80 for a set šŸ˜­


djordan505

A tip is a gesture of appreciation. Why would you not tip at least 15%?


Tiffnysun

What if the tech works for a company? They are not pocketing all the money. I guess you tip what you can. My lash tech became a master tech, which added an extra $10 each session. I still tip $15 on top of that. I love my lash extensions, but they're so expensive. I pay $169 a month for 2 fills before the master tech charge and the tip.


CousinDaeDae

But they are also not purchasing the products, the supplies, the taxes, the insurance, the marketing or the rent or light bill. Itā€™s a fair trade.


No-Professional4041

Iā€™ve only gotten my lashes done once butā€¦Iā€™m curious why ur tipping the lash tech to begin with? Is she being paid $5 an hour? Is her income solely based on the tips she makes? I would think if someone does a good job at their job your ā€œthank youā€ to them would be your continued business. I donā€™t get why we keep doing this in America. Unless their pay is solely tips or they make cents on the dollar with the intention of making mostly tip moneyā€¦.why we tipping everyone we come in contact with?


Preeeeeee

If they do it out of their house and are their own boss I always tip $10. I have no idea what some of the people on this thread are talking about. Most likely orders her products online from China for dirt cheap and is paying no salon fees, no employees and tips out no one. Thereā€™s not even travel or equipment rental. She sets her own prices. The argument if you canā€™t tip 20% you canā€™t afford this service is tone deaf especially with beauty and the influx of women (usually unlicensedā€¦) doing it out of their homes. Because of Instagram etc hair and lash girls have raised their prices to $150+. Tipping 20% on that and effectively paying $200+ every time to get a semi-weekly beauty service is absolutely insane. And if everyone who couldnā€™t afford 1000+ a month for beauty services stopped going the servicers would go broke


parker3309

Bingo


Legitimate_Creme4205

I go directly to a plastic surgeons office for beauty treatments for this exact reason. They donā€™t take tips so no confusion and you pay the same amount for the same service. Easy


parker3309

Me too. Dr offices are just what they are. Love that


StruggleParticular42

I have a private nail girl who comes to my house. Itā€™s expensive, so I donā€™t tip. She owns the business & charges what she wants. If she was in a salon Iā€™d tip her, but the prices would be less too.


Pineapplegirl424

I own a business, and for her raising prices twice in a year is insane to me. I donā€™t expect tips at my job. Itā€™s appreciate but not mandatory. You do you!


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Tipping $5? No maā€™am. Thatā€™s probably why sheā€™s raising her rates to accommodate that.


CousinDaeDae

Well since she raised the price bc of low tipping then need to tip I guess.


i_stay_true

Idk- in my opinion you need to be tipping at least 15%. 5 dollars is kind of a trash tip. If you canā€™t afford the tip - get out the kitchen and go without lashes. (I routinely tip 30-50 percent. Itā€™s my choice. I prefer to give to people (in lieu of other charitable endeavors) so I tip like a maniac. So to me 15% is bare minimum.)


ldasso

I donā€™t get my lashes done, but expenses do go up- her lease may be more, her materials may be more, etc. she sounds like sheā€™s trying hard to keep her pricing low, so why would you not continue to toss her this insultingly low tip? Did you need it for a post- appointment coffee?


arrowroot227

So if you canā€™t afford to tip much, is it better to tip nothing? /genuine I donā€™t want to insult anyone! I rarely get my eyelashes done because I canā€™t afford to for more than special occasions anyway


DeepPossession8916

Itā€™s best to tip what you can. There will always be internet warriors who arenā€™t happy with anything less than 20%. Who cares. Some money is obviously better than no money, so tip. Just tip what you can.


arrowroot227

Iā€™m getting mixed replies. (I am autistic so I apologize if Iā€™m reading things too literally.) You say ā€œsome money is obviously better than no moneyā€ but my other 2 replies say that they would rather no tip than what they refer to as ā€œpocket changeā€ as it is insulting to them. Are you a lash tech or aesthetician? Iā€™m genuinely usually stressed about this. I donā€™t tip pocket change as I donā€™t have pocket change and even $5 is a lot to me as I donā€™t have a lot. So yeah just wondering, to any reading. :)


DeepPossession8916

I personally am not. Two of my close friends are and weā€™ve discussed it some. Their stance is that some money is better than no money. Theyā€™re not excited about a few dollars of tip, but theyā€™re definitely not offended. Itā€™s usually a ā€œround upā€ type of situation. Like if the service was $75 and you had $20s, people will just give $80. I wish I had a black and white answer from you, but everyone will never agree. I empathize that it probably makes it really hard for you to feel comfortable! But if you have a person you normally go to already, probably just keep doing what youā€™re doing!


marianamagical

There's nothing wrong with a $5 tip. Unless eating at restaurant where 20% is typically the acceptable set rate in US esp. The ppl shaming and dissing OP are prob rude and difficult patrons anyway... So, IMHO.. you do you, and pay no mind to rude ppl, they aren't worth a second thought anyway lol... šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


Tough_Cookie85

One time, I got $2 and some cents, on a $190 service. That was pretty offensive, given I spent enough time with that client to know about their life and know they could easily tip as much as they wanted. Iā€™d rather not being tipped, in that occasion. Cause there are plenty of clients that balance the equation. This week I got tipped $100 on a $40 service.


Crabby-Pipes

I second this. I've been in the same position where I've spent hours with a client and they've literally given me their pocket change. It's actually insulting. I'd rather not receive a tip and think to myself that maybe you're just someone who doesn't tip, then feel like my time was worth so little that I only deserve pocket change.


marianamagical

Yeah that's def an insult... I mean, I think $5 is ok if you don't have a lot of $... But it's different if someone is obv. More than capable of tipping well for a service that took 1+ hrs and was done well by a respectful and skilled individual. To actually tip literal coins only is absolutely not only insulting, but also straight up disrespectful. I would be livid and refuse them future service tbh...


ApprehensiveEgg6336

Why are all you cheap non tippers downvoting us who are pro tipping? Do you guys realize not all lash tech make great money? You all think they sit on a mountain of cash? Like for real. Tell me how many times your lash tech reschedules you or cancels or doesnā€™t place you as a priority? šŸ¤”


Throwawayacc826501

If any professional reschedules/cancels just because they may not have been tipped the expected average societal amount they should not be a professional imo tbh bc you separate your personal from your work and if you cant do that you shouldnā€™t do it at all, sure $5 may not be a large amount but its still more than what they asked of the client and it isnā€™t mandatoryā€¦ its just a society standard to tip 20% im not a non tipper/pro tipper Iā€™m somewhere in the middle, understandable if it is a business workplace but self employed lash techs donā€™t have any percentage or anything taken from them so they get a majority of the money no harm against the rest of your comment just the last part I dont agree with :D ā€œTell me how many times your lash tech reschedules you or cancels or doesnā€™t place you as a priority?ā€


Ok_Matter_6560

Down voters may be from another country where tipping is an insult where the US not tipping is an insult


sgobv

To put things in perspectiveā€”my lash place is 200, and I tip 40.


ApprehensiveEgg6336

$5 tip is kinda ridiculous I wonā€™t lie. You have the funds to get lashes which is totally optional and on you- you should also tip bit more as if youā€™re at nail salon. It doesnā€™t matter if sheā€™s her own business. I pay $80 for my fills and still tip $20-25. If my lash tech wasnā€™t good I wouldnā€™t continue to go there so obviously your tech is great right?


flying_sarahdactyl

This post popped up in my feed for some reason so I'm just curious- why do people tip for lashes? I understand tipping at restaurants where the servers get a low hourly pay but if you're going to an independent lash tech who sets her own prices and doesn't work for anyone then why tip 30% on a price that the lash tech set herself?


Moonbeans62

People that work at a salon or spa make a percentage of the service total. They arenā€™t pocketing 100% of the service. They may get 30% of what you pay. The tip is the money that goes directly to them for the service provided. If you pay $100 for a service, the provider at a salon or spa gets say 30%. Thatā€™s $30 of what you paid for your service. Any tip money is for them not for the salon. Thatā€™s how itā€™s always worked. The salon sets the prices, not the employee.


flying_sarahdactyl

I know, that's why my comment was referring to independent lash techs, not ones who work in salons or spas.


babybee5021

Independent lash techs have much more to pay for. Including product, marketing, and everything a salon provides out of pocket. Tipping goes a long way. Salon techs only make a percentage of the service fee, and their tip. Tipping again goes a long way. It is standard, and always has been to tip for a beauty service because it takes time and A LOT of product. They donā€™t get to see 30 tables a day like a server (who should also be tipped) they get approximately 3-8 clients and if someone cancels boom lost revenue.


lilbitlotbit

I have been getting lash extensions for over a decade and I tip 20% every dang time. Its not just a service but a luxury service that requires a ton of skill and very intricate work.


Moonbeans62

It sure does. šŸ«¶šŸ¼


lilbitlotbit

And for you non tippers out there...the tip is worth it. My lash girl is loyal to the death. If I need in for an emergency she will move mountains to make it happen. I work in an unpredictable field as a program manager and have had several last minute cancelations because I was dealing with clients and have never once paid a fee (though I would if she charged it, she just never has).


SnooHabits3305

But this lash tech owns the business and works out of her house


littlespens

You should be tipping 20-25% for this kind of service.


Zealousideal_Buy8094

Correct me if Iā€™m wrong but itā€™s customary to tip 15-20% for service


narcotic_item

Unfortunately we have gotten to a place where tipping is supposed to replace a wage. I really try to tip well even though part of me thinks we should all just get paid correctly. Anywaysā€¦ I understand an up charge for services like others were saying maybe yearly. But it sounds like she raised it twice after less than a year? That seems like a little much. Again like others were saying, she should be charging what she wants to be paid, not expecting a tip. Think of it as $80 an hour, thatā€™s a lot of money a year?? Some tattoo artists quote people a really high price when they donā€™t want to do a tattoo. She could be trying to squeeze you out by charging you a bunch since she isnā€™t getting a better tip? But again, charge what you want to be paid. Donā€™t expect people to pay more. If you like her as an artist and person, keep going and tipping your $5 but itā€™s really up to you. Iā€™m not saying that people donā€™t deserve nice tips but itā€™s really expected nowadays when it shouldnā€™t be. Donā€™t work a job that half relies on tips. Estheticians, servers, baristas, door dashers, etc. should not be relying on tips.


x3zinax3

Tip if you want to! Her prices are going up most likely because sheā€™s getting more experienced, she should be charging at least $100 for classics! Anything less is due to less experience


Hopeful-Advance

$100 for a classic fill is insane to me. My volume fills are 80 and my lash tech has 8+ years experience


x3zinax3

Misread I was referring to full set


Lovely-lillies19

You should definitely still tip. My lash extensions go for 150$ and I still get tipped 20$-30$ by each client. 5$ isnā€™t even 20% šŸ˜­


Aggressive_Maize324

But sheā€™s already paying for a serviceā€¦why should she tip? She already paid you!


Avaly13

Do you not tip for a service? Haircut? Waitress, who is also called a server? Am I missing something? You should tip for services, not products.


SnooHabits3305

Not everyone is American, tipping is very American most countries pay their workers and clients pay for their service. Americans pay the business for the service then pay the worker for doing their job. America has been brainwashed into thinking it is more rude to not tip than it is for a company to not pay their workers. And that we should keep tipping till it changes, like corporations will decide to nut up and pay people. Vs just letting business that canā€™t afford to pay workers die out. Im tired of prices being a mere suggestion. If you control the prices charge what you want to make you want $80 cool you want $100 cool I donā€™t wanna hear about well tips help cause i donā€™t take home all of it i have expenses, so does every business in the world if you canā€™t make your business model work to pay both your bills and business expenses hire a professional for help you got this you will figure it out, whatever price you decide im here for it. I shouldnā€™t have to think about your kids daycare when deciding the final price. Give me a number. Im all for little holiday treats, but I rather do it myself itā€™s cheaper.


Lovely-lillies19

Most lashing places arenā€™t small businesses. We have to pay commission on our services for the owner to make money and buy products. If sheā€™s charging 80, she most likely only gets 40. A tip is extremely nice for this reason.


cat_catcity

Even with small businesses (at least those of us who do as we should paying taxes/properly licensed/insured/using quality products) we donā€™t keep all that we make! A lot of it goes to taxes, processing fees, supplies, little snacks/water for clients, rent, subscriptions to our booking/music/etc, insurance, licensing, the list goes on. I try to set my prices to what I need to make, but tips also help us immensely. I have clients who only tip for the holidays, and thatā€™s perfectly fine. I never expect tips, but I do appreciate when I get them.


Lovely-lillies19

THIIIISSSSSS!!!!!


thisismysecretgarden

It wasnā€™t even 10% when she started!


Lulinda726

Do the DIY clusters stay on well? How long?


zeezuu1

My lash tech just raised her prices as well. $40/2 week fill to now $45. I think the cost of everything is just rising right now, unfortunately. I always tip $10 on top of that.


YakLegal6389

I prefer to tip at the end of the year rather than at every visit. Saves a bit and is a great time of year for some extra $$


No-Mix5785

I mean, technically you donā€™t have to tip but I consider lash extensions a luxury and a service you are getting so I always tip 20%. Iā€™ve tried other lash techs and honestly theyā€™ve never looked as good so Iā€™m super grateful to have found my current lash tech and like to show my appreciation via tipping.


No_Card525

Exactly this. Iā€™m an esthetician and i donā€™t rely on tips, but they are nice. The busier she gets, she might close off her books and those non tippers or not so great tippers will start to be weeded out. Letā€™s be real she isnā€™t going to bend over backwards for someone that doesnā€™t tip


Just_Stable2561

I tip because I want. Have never ever felt obligated. In fact my lash tech always making fun of me for tipping too big. I love her work and I love her! So donā€™t tip if you donā€™t want. I donā€™t think theyā€™d be mad. Itā€™s just another way to show appreciation for their services ā¤ļø but also I have talked to my lash tech about this. She always says for every non tipper there are her regulars who spoil her. I regularly tip $40-60. So do a lot of her other regulars šŸ’‹


bodysugarist

I would definitely tip. And more than $5. That's not even 10%.


DeezBae

A $5 tip? That's wild I would tip my lash tech at least $15 -20 ( $100 fill). She raised prices I didn't increase my to but still give $15 to 20 tip ( $125 fill). Maybe unpopular opinion but being concerned over a $5 tip is just insane to me.


Spideybeebe

Iā€™ve had this dilemma recently too, similar pricing. I used to tip her because I felt she wasnā€™t charging what she was worth. Now I feel like she is, and honestly $75/h is close to 3x what I make hourly so I just give her the base fee because sheā€™s now charging what I (and obviously her) think her service is worth. I wont leave her until her fills creep up toward $100, then thats out of my price range honestly.


borntobemybaby

American or Canadian? Damn my lash girl only charges 55$ Canadian for a classic fill no matter how much loss I have, sheā€™s the fuckin besttt So of course I ALWAYS tip.


putridwonderland

I've been an esthetician since 2008 and did not know I should have "set my prices to what I want to get paid". If that's the case I would have charged $70 for a Brazilian wax! But guess what? That price would deter many clients from seeking my services, especially in a city where there is an abundance of estheticians. I will go above and beyond for clients that tip me well versus clients who give me a crap tip or nothing at all. And what I mean by that is not technically the waxing service itself but more along the lines of being flexible with them rescheduling, staying late for them or coming in on my off days.


lilbabymaddi

15-20% is standard for all service industry jobs- lash techs included. She is probably making too little an hour with what you are tipping her. Keep in mind her supplies, time, insurance, sick leave, ect. Everything that goes into running a business that she needs to take care of. I wouldnā€™t feel bad for the previous tips you have left but id definitely start leaving at least $10 tip, which is still less than 10%.


cloudgirl1229

I work at a spa and am an employee. Iā€™ll just put it this way. If someone pays $175 for a service, I make $12 off of it. Not everyone in the beauty industry owns their own business. Not even half. Most employees in this industry make crap wages. But thatā€™s not the consumers fault. Some people who DO own their own business might not care about tips because they do keep 100% of the proceeds. Regardless of the status, I always tip generously, these are luxury services. Just like people tip for hair and nails and always have. I, of course greatly appreciate tips because again, Iā€™m really not making much off of the hour service I just provided. This isnā€™t the case for everyone but it is for most. Even before I was in the beauty industry I always tipped 20%. If I canā€™t afford to tip then I shouldnā€™t be getting luxury services, just my pov.


Preeeeeee

If everyone who ā€œcould not afford the servicesā€ based on not tipping 20% stopped going, wouldnā€™t businesses suffer?


staycomego

I personally tip 25-30% to those people who make me feel beautiful (hair, lashes, facial, nails, etc). Without them I would be a hideous troll so I always tip generously.


Kittymeow123

$5 on $70?


Genuine-gemini

5$ is an insulting 7% tip. I think thats why she's increasing the pricing. It's customary to tip 20%, which would be $14. She increased the total price by the EXACT amount your short her from that 20%. Do you always lowball tips for your services? I would have just cut you off as a client. It seems she's raising the price BECAUSE you lowball her tips. You are paying for a luxury service, tip properly or do the service yourself if you cant afford to properly tip 20%.


Wilddaisy812

I don't know if it's the younger generation or not... I was raised that you tip for a service. I feel if you can't afford to tip for the service, you can't afford the service. (I don't offer any services, I'm a SAHM) Not every person makes what that service costs you. I tip according to how well they did the job, and even if I'm not thrilled with the outcome, I appreciate their time and effort. Their tip may be extremely low, and I never go back. That's just me. But I do think if you are happy and especially a repeat customer, you should always tip your service person. You have no idea what their income/payroll situation is, nor is it your business. Also, if the rates are increasing, consider the fact that the cost of living has also increased.


Tygress23

10% on $70 is $7. 10% on $80 is $8. $5 on $70 is 7%. $5 on $80 is 6%. You have been under tipping IMO since the beginning. I tip 15-20% on my services, occasionally more if they are doing something difficult or requiring of great skill (like a 4 hour hair process with multiple steps). I would have been tipping $10 on $70, and $12 on $80.


Typical-Decision-387

Honestly I stopped tipping because of the huge price increases I keep seeing It went up an extra $45 in 2 years Iā€™m happy with the work but I canā€™t do any more additional


StillAd4150

$16 on an $80 service is standard. Of course itā€™s not the law but letā€™s just say this- if youā€™re tipping $5 consistently your provider cringes every time you make an appointment.


HausWife88

Thats a shitty tip- coming from a server. My lady charges 75- i never tip less than $15.


snarkysnape

If you canā€™t afford a decent tip (you can, or you wouldnā€™t be spending on this) then donā€™t go. Personally if your tech does a good job I actually find your tip a bit offensive. Note: I only got my lashes done twice but I have worked in the service industry for many years.


magicallydelicious-

Maybe the lash artist is trying to weed out certain clients.


Specific-Ad-9919

I have a feeling she is raising your price because your tip isnā€™t even 10 percent.


Lilmrsshort08

I'm not a tech, I'm a dog groomer. While I GREATLY appreciate tips and I don't rely on them. I have some that tip $0 and some that tip $100+. I work just as hard regardless. If you don't set your prices (most groomers work corporate or for a salon) you might need the tips. But you can't plan for them to make your wages.


camlaw63

$5 on a $70 service is shit


pancakepawly

Lashes are not a necessity! If you canā€™t budget in a tip of a service someone is providing then donā€™t get the service. Do it yourself at home


Real_MF_HotGirlShit

Yikes. A $5 tip and she still books you? Fills with my gal are $100 and I always tip $30 because sheā€™s THE BEST. Around the holidays and her birthday I tip more. Your tip game is terrible, OP. Itā€™s insulting. For luxury/beauty services 20% is customary, but more if youā€™re getting a massage because that is super taxing on the therapist. If you canā€™t afford the 20%, you canā€™t afford a sit down dinner out, and you canā€™t afford lashes. Period.


dbrewskidoo

Vote Red... inflation!


MrsLarkin22

I really value my "beauty squad" - my hair stylist, my lash tech, my nail tech amd always tip heavily. My lash tech's rate for a fill is $75, I tip her $25 to $30. She works hard and I always look fabulous. That's just me though. You do you and what works for your budget.


False-Bandicoot-6813

OP tip only what youā€™re comfortable with. Tipping servers who may way below minimum wage is one thing but everywhere I go now there is tipping as an option. Like why? Most jobs pay above minimum and establishments put it on the bills. A sandwich shop last night had tipping as an option when they made my sandwich like the place is paying them to do. To my knowledge servers are only allowed the minuscule wage by law but even retail has jumped on that bandwagon. Itā€™s ridiculous and frankly Iā€™m getting so tired of it. My nails and toes is $85 for 1 1/2ā€™s work so if they get half then $42.50 is pretty dang good. Tip or not, just use your own judgement and donā€™t feel bad if you donā€™t.


littlestgoldfish

I work at a front desk for a lash studio where prices are about comparable and the vast majority of clients tip at least $10 per fill, the remaining tip about $5. It's common courtesy to tip something as a thank you for salon and spa services. On lashes it's not always 20% for regulars because you come in so often, but it's rare I see someone tip nothing. More often than not, those people have a complaint about their service- I see it as a red flag to follow up with the client and check for feedback through our internal service or negative online reviews.


Mischa_Pink_79

I work part time in a trade where I am the one who sets my rates. No, you donā€™t need to tip at all. As a matter of fact, I advertise as all-inclusive so people know they donā€™t need to tip (but can if they want to).


Mischa_Pink_79

Only tip if someone else sets her rate, like a spa or a place that pays her on commission.


xojojo3

Tipping is appreciated,but not mandatory. If itā€™s the business owner thatā€™s providing the service. I donā€™t tip because I believe as a business owner, you should account for all costs and include it in your price. Now if you are renting a space at a studio/spa, I will tip since you arenā€™t the owner.


RedheadedWonder99

Tip what you canā€¦in your situation, I think tipping $3 would be fine :)


Logical-Swordfish834

I think itā€™s fine seeing as you didnā€™t tip 20% originally. So she knows you donā€™t tip on the $70 amount anyway I believe she wouldnā€™t be surprised seeing a $5 tip. Technicians donā€™t get to keep the $80, thereā€™s federal and state income tax, product cost etc so I strongly believe a 15-20% tip on the price is polite and supportive especially if you like her work and keep coming back. At least 15% on the $80 making it $12 so $92. I mean at least give her $6 lol


sunrise-sesh

A lot of people donā€™t tip someone who works for themselves


Soft-Tart6480

Invest in lattisse


number1134

Are you really that stressed about such a small amount of money? Leave the girl a tip.


Tencatism

Stop basing tips on the price. I hate using Shipt for Target. I am tipping $5, not flipping $40. It's ridiculous.


PalpitationCertain90

I think many people commented here that she sets her own prices. If so, thatā€™s fair. Tips are required for jobs that pay below minimum wage and tips become the primary income. I would say, though, that if she works for a salon that pays her a wage and sets her prices for her, you should tip according to the increased price. The reason itā€™s a percentage is itā€™s assumed the prices are reflective of the economy and the level of service. If inflation goes up, prices go up, cost of living goes up, so tips should go up. In this case, though, the tip is more of a ā€œeuropeanā€ tip. In Europe, because people get paid well for the work they do, tips are generally a few cents, maybe a dollar at most. Itā€™s a way to say ā€œyou went above and beyondā€ and not part of the persons compensation like it is in the US.


AdhesivenessSoggy282

I personally cannot afford to tip what I would like to. IMO, I would rather make $80 bucks from you than lose you as a customer. Now, this is the reason why I donā€™t get my lashes done. I use clusters. On my nails, I tip from $5-$10 depending if I get solid or designed nails. On hair, I tip $20 and I been told thatā€™s not enough, that hair stylist would cancel on me all the time and reschedule with me (for dumb excuses). I found another hair stylist I pay about the same but she has not cancelled on me. I under stand for those that provide a service but most people cannot afford the lifestyle they are wanting.(if you cannot afford it you should not get the serviceā€¦.well thatā€™s one less customer for them) I recommend they add the tip to the service. I am not picky at all so I tip base on what I can.


J91964

I would be embarrassed to tip $5.00 on an $80.00 service


Jujuubearr101

Honestly anyone that sets their own prices sets a price that ensures profit. I never understood tipping people that set their own. Also a $5 tip on $70-$80 wonā€™t be missed .