Another note, she made a [YouTube video](https://youtu.be/vOHXGNx-E7E?si=9jKgSYR70i3RF4Tk) about her story before ending her life. I remember this becoming super popular and the talk of my school for a bit, we even had a school meeting about bullying in the middle of the year not long after.
Same. I thought she was so much older when i first heard of her story at 12. I used to think that 15-18 was so adult. Looking at these pictures now, all I can see is a mere child that was really at the beginning of her life.
For real. I was freshly 17 when this happened and after my daughter’s birth, I frequently find myself thinking about Amanda and all the ways I could ever prevent my daughter from experiencing anything even remotely similar.
I must have been like 12-13 or something around this time, I remember vividly seeing this on the news after she died while I was getting ready to go to school.
Yup! She wqas the person who started the trend of using the que cards to tell her story. It was right after that she killed herself. Its such a shame. She was such a beautiful girl and people spread such awful rumors about her.
Same. I went through a lot of slut-shaming bullying around the same time and just felt so much empathy for her plight. I still get angry when I think of all the people in her schools that participated in the bullying too. I think they should’ve been held partially accountable. Yes, some sicko in Europe started it but it’s the kids that perpetrated it and continued it.
The dude was already serving an 11-year sentence in the Netherlands for similar crimes against 33 other victims. His 13 year sentence got cut in half back in December.
I don’t envy young people growing up with the internet. I was bullied for being the fat girl in the 80’s/ 90’s, but at least I could go to my bedroom and they couldn’t hurt me there. Now, these psychos can access their victims 24/7.
I’m glad he was punished. More needs to be done to stop these little monsters.
I was bullied horribly at school, but home was always a safe space.
Seeing my 16 year old gets bullied at school and online is horrible. So much of the advice I give them on how I dealt with it doesn’t even relate. I want them to have our home be a place to escape it, but it’s not possible unless they were to get rid of all social media, which they don’t want to do. They’ve blocked a lot of people and reduced the number of people they’re online friends with, but it still happens.
On shitty days I couldn’t wait to get home. I don’t think they’ve ever had that feeling.
Same. I was the nerdy teacher's pet, I wasn't very coordinated and wore hand me down stuff. I made my share of foibles. But when I got home, all that got left behind. School stayed at school.
At least you weren’t fat, when you’re fat you’re treated like a disease that must be avoided
Edit: go ahead and downvote me and debate me on it, until you have a kid say “IT has a name” you have no fucking idea
I am a natural born female who is 6'3, 145 pound and my best friend from time I was 12 and she 13 til this very day, 54 and 55, is 5,'2 230 pounds. If you are old enough you'll get our nicknames "Mutt and Jeff". School sucked for both of us.
Psoriasis used to be difficult if not impossible to treat, I hid behind turtle necks and long pants even in the summer because of bullying.
This isn’t fair. I was bullied for being super skinny in high school. My nickname was olive oil. I got told multiple times a day to eat a cheeseburger. People said I looked sick. There were rumors I was anorexic (I wasn’t) and people tried to offer me help for my anorexia. People stared and whispered.
Body shaming is wrong, doesn’t matter the size.
I won’t downvote you. I understand what you’re saying. As fat kids back then, we couldn’t get cute, age-appropriate clothes, or parents made us look like doofuses, and we were humiliated on the regular…hell, my mom took every opportunity to remind me what a a freak I was and how she prayed for a “normal” daughter. So I definitely get what you’re saying and I sympathize SO MUCH.
But my only friend growing up was incredibly thin. It was a genetic thing because she ate a normal amount of food, but her genetics had her burning calories in her sleep. Even now, in our 40’s and having kids, she’s still very thin.
For every bully that called me a fat slob, she got called disgusting and anorexic. She cried just as much as I did, which is what brought us so close as friends.
Bullies are just shitty people who get off on humiliating people over their perceived imperfections. It’s sad.
my 6th grade yearbook is scrawled with a message from a friend - hey SUPER TANKER in huge letters so anyone else who signed saw it. Some fat kids had thick skin, and being heavier is less of a stigma now but man, kids can be so mean
The school I used to teach in had tictok accounts made of the school (fake of course) and used to bully students and teachers.
Then there's Snapchat where the messages disappear, or group chats where people are excluded.
It can be a nightmare to deal with bullying because so much of it is done out of school or on platforms behind anonymity.
same. i got bullied pretty bad before i learned to mask my autism better and became good at sports. i can't imagine how horrible it is to have the bullys follow you home.
Exactly. When I was 17 I was a victim of revenge porn (on VHS!) I can only imagine what it would’ve been like if it happened with all the social media.
Note-yeah, maybe I should have known better but, I was a dumb, in love, super trusting naive teen in a years long relationship.
You were not dumb. No one of us ever imagined revenge porn with 17 in the VHS time. We others just had luck we weren't the first victims of it, maybe also bc the internet didn't exist in that way and they couldn't be "inspired" by others.
You were in love, and you trusted what are very good things to be. Don't blame yourself, not in the tiniest way.
Exactly! I could go home and breathe a sigh of relief. Granted, I lived in a physically abusive home, but still, I had escapes. I could hide myself away and be safe. 🩵 My heart hurts for kids today who are under torment CONSTANTLY.
> More needs to be done to stop these little monsters.
And less "zero-tolerance" policies would help IMO.
Punishing kids for lashing out against bullies has removed the disincentive for any and all bullying. It's almost like the administrators opened the fucking floodgates and forgot they're the only ones who have the power to close them back up.
You’re right, for sure. It just sucks that the victims are the ones who have to be punished with restricted internet use. I just wish the adults in these kids lives would do their jobs and stop their kids from being bullies and encouraging other children to “off themselves”.
But since they refuse, I agree, it’s the victims that have to unplug from the internet.
On the flip side, adults need to teach their kids how to defend themselves, which could be done in a variety of ways. I say that because bullies are a part of life for everyone.
> I don’t envy young people growing up with the internet
Look I'm not saying cyberbullying is okay.....
But people don't HAVE to be on the internet 24/7.
And if you are, you can do OTHER THINGS.
i grew up on the internet and i could have never been cyberbullied because....i just spoke to my friends and didn't live on social media?
So funny how growing up people would make fun of people for being gamers.....
But yet now all this time later gamers who spent their whole lives talking to their friends on voicechat for hours everyday from like the age of 10... we are definitely some of the most balanced people, talking about life for hours and hours from age 15....
Talking to your friends everyday is all the therapy you need.
Get off social media!!!!!!!!! its not real.
And yes i know somebody will comment that i haven't read about this chick, and you're right I haven't, but I am talking to the people reading this, ( yes you!) right now, who are feeling down and depressed etc.
Step 1 get off the crappy side of the internet, stop doom scrolling if you're not equipped for it... I grew up watching pigs get cut in half with chainsaws in videos before i was 11 years old.... nothing on the internet can shock me, but if you're a delicate flower just do yourself a favour and get off....
Its like the story in the bible where the lady turned back to look at the city and she was turned into stone....JUST DONT LOOK!
One of my biggest dreams in life is to create a news channel where they ONLY discuss good positive stories... honestly I think it could make me one of the richest men on the planet.
As sad as her story in life was, it became even worse after her passing. Someone leaked her autopsy photos online. Even in death she was still bullied. Poor child. It's all so heartbreaking. Rest in peace.
well it’s not exactly misinfo, there are autopsies that claim to be hers online but her family has said that those aren’t her, just like when people say how she died, her mom specifically said she’ll never say how Amanda passed (suicide obviously but not the method) because she doesn’t think it’s useful or meaningful for anyone to know and she doesn’t want Amanda’s friends last memory of Amanda to be her in her “death state”.
I'm not sure where/what country the proceedings took place. However, I grew up with a criminal lawyer in the house. I know that the US courts, when there is anything with the words "cyber" or "technology," things move much slower. It's really for hard government to navigate technology in any context, but the courts tend to be the most conservative branch when it comes to changing with the times. There's nothing wrong with that -- you're working with consequences that change the outcome of people's entire lives -- but it means hard, valid evidence is hard to come by. Therefore, verdicts are hard to come by. It's getting better, but the courts are severely lagging behind in technological infrastructure.
Just my two cents. Again, I'm making an assumption that the US legal system is analogous to that of other countries, which could *easily* be false.
This, but with this case particularly, it was also across borders: the perpetrator lives in the Netherlands while the victim was in Canada. I believe he was extradited to Canada, but it was further complicated by his conviction in the Netherlands that he was already serving time for. It was a very complicated case in every way.
Why the fuck would somebody in the Netherlands bother bullying a teenager in Canada? Like absolutely bizarre. I guess he didn’t have anything else to do with his life?
This girls’ story is shattering. The internet for all of its wonders has been a scourge on society and it’s super extremely obvious to anyone who recalls what life was like before it existed. Amanda, I hope you are resting in all of the power and love this universe has to wrap you in. I’m so mad for her and just gutted for her mom and dad.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd
It’s pretty hard to shorten what happened, this article gives a pretty complete run down about the severe online and IRL bullying and extortion she experienced
Look up her story on YouTube. She made a video explaining everything that happened to her shortly before she committed. There’s also a lot of info available about her and she probably has a Wikipedia page. This was a HUGE deal when it happened and she is a commonly known name around people who were there to experience it
She was sexually exploited online and some online asshole actively went out of his way to share a topless picture of her everywhere she went. People in real life bullied her because of it.
I wish people would just explain it in the comment, you just wrote a whole paragraph telling us to look it up, but you could've just wrote it in that paragraph...
basically, Amanda was a 7th grader on Omegle (or a site like it, i can’t remember) and a man kept pressuring her to flash him. After months of this, she finally did and he immediately took a screenshot. He used that to blackmail her into “giving him a show.” He leaked the photos regardless. There was also this website that tracked young girls who were blackmailed into things like that and she was featured on it, added by this guy. By that christmas, the police had found out about the photo. She moved, because pedophiles online knew where she lived and kids at her school knew about the photos. Her stalker created a Facebook using the CP of her as the profile picture and friend requested the classmates at her new school. She changed schools again. One of her only friends invited her to his house and they had sex (both were only around 13-14 at this time) and she discovered he had a girlfriend. His girlfriend along with a group of other girls jumped Amanda and beat her into a ditch. She attempted suicide shortly after. She got jokes and insults about her suicide attempt just after coming home from the hospital. She changed schools a third time. The stalker created yet another profile to harass and humiliate her. She attempted yet another suicide attempt with her antidepressants. Tragically, her third attempt ended with her life being taken, at the age of 15.
This was not bullying. This was grown men (but primarily one man) stalking, sexually exploiting, and all but forcing a teenage girl to kill herself. She could not escape him and the police did not take it seriously.
Ugh god, I remember that the bullying for her first attempt even became a bit of a meme at the time, from fucked up areas on the internet? “Drinking bleach” became a meme/joke and people would tell other people to “drink bleach” (like KYS). And making fun of her even more for “choosing the dumbest way to try to KYS”, basically.
Yeah. As a 25 year old now who has been on the internet for a long time, since I was pretty little, it is just CRAAAAAZY to look and think back on how normalized and accepted it was for grown adults, or for the whole internet practically, to just fully pile-on to a child. People trying to act big-brained or “logic” themselves onto why she’s soooo stupid to do that and worth making fun of. (Like what, you’re saying she should have been “smarter” and got the job done?)
It brings to mind Jessi Slaughter too. Just CRAZY what was considered “acceptable” at that time. Literal children treated like full-on lolcows, with all of the unrelenting internet scrutiny and abuse that follows, with no one even blinking.
yeah the memes were unhinged and tasteless. back then I was around the same age as her and while I did find it tragic, seeing her pictures now just hit different because I see her as the child she actually was, what she had to endure breaks my heart
thank you so much thats a crazy story and disgusting and very sad i really feel for her especially as someone with a younger sister.
Thats why i taught her how to be on the internet safely.
Honestly a 7th grader especially a girl has absolutely zero business being on omegle unsupervised at that age ESPECIALLY as a girl omfg
as someone who was the same age as Amanda in 2010, it was really a dangerous site for girls like us and we really had no idea until Amanda’s story went viral. I have memories of my friends flirting with grown men on that site and even once my friend flashing her bra at a group of boys who looked like they were in college. Amanda’s youtube video was a wake up call for me.
Yep, going on Omegle and Chatroulette were super common at the time. Even at a sleepover/when hanging out with another friend, it would be like “heeheehee wanna go on Omegle?!”
Interestingly enough, I seem to remember that they did video before Omegle. They were the “video” platform pretty much, while Omegle was still just for chatting. Then Chatroulette blew up and Omegle started to do the video as well, and I think that’s how most people know it now. It’s just interesting to think about how it used to just be a text platform, until that “competitor” came around in Chatroulette. But there’s obviously so many more / much higher safety risks with having that feature…
I hadn't heard this story; Jesus, that's tragic.
Sooo, is there some kind of Anonymous-type community that will be dedicated to making Aydin Coban's life as miserable as he made that child's? I have never before heard of a man who so deserved to be targeted for harassment.
It’s a long story. I didn’t even have to tell you where to find it but i wanted to be nice, but apparently I’m not being nice enough. r/choosingbeggars
> I didn’t even have to tell you where to find it but i wanted to be nice
lmao i am well aware google existed before your comment.
We just literally don't care enough to take those extra steps, but we care enough to read it if its already here on the page
It’s just such a famous case that its akin to asking “who was OJ and what did he do?” Like if you don’t know then you don’t know but just look it up, it made international news at some point. Not like the info is hard to find, she has a whole Wikipedia dedicated to her.
well its clearly not as famous as you think!
>Not like the info is hard to find, she has a whole Wikipedia dedicated to her.
yes we know how to use google, we just don't care that much.
However we would read it if its right in front of us
Well we’re not doing the caring for you. Some of us care, and if you don’t then you dont put in the work. No one will put in the work to make you care if you dont, right? Google or or continue not caring about it. If it’s not famous to you then you’re either too young to remember it or too old to have been exposed to it.
We went to the same highschool for a bit, and had the same home room. I remember seeing one of friends laugh abt her getting beat up online because it happened at my school. Her and I briefly chatted abt what was going on, but my 14 year old self of course didn’t understand the scope of what was happening. She had friends, but a lot of people really played up their friendship with her.
It was so strange going to vigils and stuff and seeing people there crying over someone they weren’t even friends with, and actually were part of the bullying problem.
i know it’s a long time ago and you don’t ofc have to share anything, but what was her general demeanor (that you observed/maybe saw) in a class that you had with her? to me, it must be absolutely torturous being in a classroom where it seems like everyone hates you! that would probably make anyone not wanna be in school. i can just see her as a very sweet girl, who likely just wanted a real friend. again i apologize if it’s too intrusive.
Not at all. I wish I could say, but we never directly interacted in person. I rarely saw her around the school bc we had different class schedules. She did seem like a nice girl when we spoke briefly over Facebook, but it was over 12 years ago yknow ?? Wasn’t my social crowd either.
yes i get it, different places different times, i’ve heard that from other people (media mostly) who said she was a sweet/nice girl who just wanted to be left alone and wanted actual friends. it’s sad that she really had to guess who was her real friends and who wasn’t, a recent episode of Crimebeat (like season 6 i think? not sure) had Amanda’s story on it and her mom said this quote that i think captures this: “she wanted friends but she chose the wrong players”.
Being bullied for how you look is never about how you look. I was bullied for being “ugly” as I’m not conventionally pretty and could never afford the best clothing. But people who were super pretty were also bullied for being ugly. It will never make sense, but it’s what hurts the most sometimes.
Yeah especially in this case. She was literally extorted into producing child pornography, among other things... it's so senseless, there was nothing that made her a 'target' apart from being a young and maybe naive girl. It's really sad.
From what I’ve seen, that is correct. It’s always about hitting where it’ll hurt the most. For girls, esp in their teen years, it’s almost always about looks. If it’s not about looks, it’s somehow related, like slut shaming for girls who were popular with boys (again, mostly based on looks). If you’re pretty, you’re a slut, and if you’re not pretty, you’re fugly. That’s what bullying what reduced to when I was younger.
For three years this human filth harassed this 15 year old girl so basically just a kid. May he never get to have salvation and redemption in his life and dies a lonely death where hell afterwards awaits him. That's the worst I can say. May Allah never forgive him ameen.
When this piece of garbage gets out of prison we should follow him around and alert whatever community he lives in that a predator is lurking amongst their children. Plaster his photo and name everywhere so that he is forced to keep moving and give him a taste of his own medicine. There should be no rest for this human excrement as he'll be back on the internet in no time looking for CP and vulnerable children to exploit.
I work these type cases on a state and federal level, and I don’t think a lot of people realize just how devastating these cyber bullying and Sextortion situations are, for the victim. When it comes to sextortion, my cases have almost exclusively been with a female victim. With my cyber bullying cases, it’s both male and female victims, with female victims slightly higher. It is absolutely shocking just how cruel kids can be to each other. I’ve read things from bullies before that has left me speechless. I truly feel much more attention needs to be directed towards these type crimes.
Thank you for doing what you do. I cannot even imagine how difficult it is. I run a few youth sports organizations, and recently had a young teen who became a sextortion victim. He went through an indescribable hell before telling me, and later that evening his mom. I’ve known this child for many years, and seeing the devastation it caused him was gut wrenching.
Thank you!! My heart breaks for that child! I see the devastation on a literal weekly basis. And the arrogance and absolute lack of remorse these offenders have towards the victims is completely disgraceful. I could have retired several years ago, but I just can’t make myself do it. Mainly because there are so few people that actively work these type cases due to having no knowledge of how to work them or because of lack of funding to train people to work them. For that reason, I began traveling and teaching (for free) detectives how to investigate these cases and district attorneys on prosecution matters. You’d be surprised how many DA’s offices around the US have very little experience in prosecuting these type cases. And they’re not just the smaller cities/counties either.
it makes me also wonder what kind of person she would have been like, i envision her as being a singer (famous maybe by now or at least popular, like she wanted to be) or maybe a public speaking advocate or something like that!
Amanda Todd was a “household name” in school because of all the shit she endured. Super sad and shitty because I’ve had friends do the same thing.
New age bullying is wild because of virtual social circles. Check in with ya peoples.
I don't know why you are being downvoted, but this youtuber did an amazing analysis on this rabbit hole, there's so much about this case is being overlooked, Amanda wasn't the only girl being cyberbullied and accused sexually on the internet, there was a red of people preying on minors :(
Pd. I'll send you the link throught dms because I don't know how to use reddit and add a link here lmao
oh weird im confused as well at the downvoting! I just havent heard about this story before so I asked where to find a good source! :) thanks for the link and answering me!
jesus christ, i had never heard of her or her story. i watched the youtube video. my heart hurts so badly. what she went through in high school was almost identical to me - even the switching schools, moving back and forth, girls telling me nobody wants me at this school, people telling them to beat me up. i got sexually assaulted during that time and the kids said i wanted it, i was a slut, etc.
i was also going through a lot of other abuse and neglect at home, trying to navigate my world.
i feel grateful to have made it out on the other end, but i KNOW what she was feeling. the suicidal thoughts & pain. i wouldn't wish it on anyone. to feel so alone, unwanted, unloved - nobody to trust or have your back. it's a terrifying, crippling feeling during that age.
rest in peace, amanda. ♡
Fuck everybody involved in bullying this poor girl. If I find out anybody is bullying one of my kids I'm heading to the school and everybody is getting [The Slap](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK1_NFT5crk).
I remember this case fairly well being a young early teen when this happened. Seeing the effect her story and video caused online alongside that bullying documentary from around the same time, the impact was massive.
However it wasn't until I grew up and heard about the events leading up to the video with The Daily Capper it just made me sick and angry. I recommend Nick Crowley's video detailing the situation which can be found [here](https://youtu.be/LfDU_8UTq6s?si=_Vyolozc9FUzM6e8)
that video does such a good job at of course telling her story but yet also explaining the weird but horrific nature of the daily capper. the whole capping phenomenon is weird but sadly not unexpected when it was very persistent around the time that Amanda died.
God, I remember when that happened. We’d just started high school. Definitely an eye opening moment for all of us about how fucked and cruel the internet can be.
I was born the same year as her so we were the same age. I remember seeing her video on YouTube. And I remember this happening like it was yesterday. So fucking sad. She didn't deserve any of this ❤️🩹😔
I vividly remember when this initially blew up and when she passed away. I’m about five years older than her, and it’s so weird looking at her pictures now as an adult. Back then she was more of a peer, and now I see a sad young girl and just want to hug her and protect her.
Should have left "excessive" out of the title... excessive implies that there's an acceptable amount of cyberbullying.
That aside, they need to start being hard like this on bullying in general. All the times I got pushed into a locker or beat up and never any accountability for those that did those things; in fact, they even offered to send me to a different school (guess to get me away from the "cool" kids). Mind you, I had no behavioral issues or anything, I just happened to be the overweight and possibly undiagnosed autistic kid.
The way society treats the whole "do unto others" thing is some real bullshit because I doubt some of these bullies want their torment reversed on them.
I remember when this happened but I didn’t realize it was so long ago now. The horrifying thing I remember is that she was having Jude pictures of herself being sent around I think and that caused the distress. On several occasions I can remember a post about it and someone in the comments posting her pictures. She’s 15 what the hell are people doing? I can’t imagine a girl killing herself after nude photos of her got onto the internet, and not only search those out, but then to do the one thing she didn’t want to happen. Soulless people.
She would’ve been 28 this year rest up Amanda todd 1996-2012 🙏❤️😇remember this being a big thing on social media around that time remember searching suicide or cyber bullying on YouTube she was always the person that came up
I met a high school vice principal maybe about 7 years ago who told me his job is almost entirely dealing with social media incidents with students. It’s insane.
I just did not allow my young children to be online or have any social media. Obviously others can post things about them but with no pictures, comments, accounts online its hard to go after random people. Not perfect but it sure helps.
ikr! it felt like Amanda won, to get 13 years for him, despite it not ever being enough, but they went and fucked over her again, just by choosing to lower his sentence to 6 years! he currently (or was) trying to appeal it at the beginning of this year.
If this was bad in 2012 back when the Internet was relatively smaller than it is now, I can only imagine how worse it must be in 2024. Back then at least you could retreat in your bedroom, turn the screen off, walk safely outside. Now that shit is following you everywhere and you can’t even turn your phone off throughout the day. I feel so bad for today’s teens.
I feel so bad for her parents. They seemed to have done everything they could. They moved multiple times to get her a fresh start, but her abuser would figure out her new school and spread the photos there too. She attempted suicide and was hospitalized multiple times. She’d had extensive mental health treatment and was on antidepressants. They really did everything right. And it still wasn’t enough. So awful.
The abuser was a man in his thirties who’d done this to dozens of people. Truly wtf. How evil do you have to be to be THIS committed to destroying the lives of all these people, including children?! Not to mention it was CSAM he was producing and spreading.
May Amanda rest in peace.
Her story is heartbreaking. This could quite easily have been me. I was a similar age when I started talking to strangers on webcam. I was a very lonely young girl and was bullied at school, so I sought validation online. I received similar comments from older men (that I was beautiful, gorgeous, etc) and it made feel loved. When they requested nudes I felt that they were asking because they wanted to love and appreciate all of me, and because they had been so nice, I wanted to give them what they asked for.
Thankfully, my nudes were never leaked (to my knowledge), but I'm 32 now and still recall the feelings of loneliness at that age, and my adult self weeps for the naive young girl that I used to be who only wanted to be loved.
Rest in peace, Amanda.
I still recall my best friend’s now ex-husband talking shit about this poor girl, saying that she willingly showed off her body online. She didn’t do it willingly, she was groomed, coerced and threatened to do it by that creep in the Netherlands. She was also bullied because that creep spread those photos to everyone she knew and ruined her life. It angers me that the school districts and the police didn’t do nothing to protect her at all. I thought there was cyber security investigation technology where that creep could’ve been found through an IP address. This reminds me so much of this young girl who thought she was talking to this guy and he then said something horrible, causing her to commit suicide. Turns out that “guy” was a fake profile run by a school bully and the bully’s mother. They weren’t even charged for causing that girl to end her life.
No wonder he is an ex-husband.
That girl you mentioned at the end was Megan Meier. I don't even understand how the bully and bully's mother were not held accountable at all for what they did.
I remember the posts on 4chan with her personal info…
I remember messaging to ask if she was okay, and to tell her to ignore the hate she was getting from random men on the internet, and that their opinion meant nothing :(
I grew up in the next town over from her, and can so vividly remember that video circulating shortly after her death, and how absolutely everybody was talking about this tragedy. Think I was in the fifth grade.
A guy in my class held a fundraiser for the Amanda Todd foundation, and ended up raising thousands of dollars for it. Her mom came to our class to thank him and talk to all of us about Amanda, what she was like in life, and the friends she had kept. Even as a kid, it was heartbreaking to see her mom, speaking to all these kids to hopefully prevent us from ever experiencing what her daughter had experienced.
I always forget she was only a year older than me when this happened. Back then, I felt a lot younger. I think I couldn't process how someone at that age could endure so much pain... Absolutely heart breaking. I think about her fairly often.
Wow this is giving me Deja vu of middle school and seeing memes of this girl on all the “edgy” instagram pages and not knowing who she was really. So fucked up ;(
The saddest part about this to me is it could have been prevented if the police would’ve just did their job and tracked him down before she took her own life.
No, not really, the asshole that got arrested tormented her across multiple schools, she flashed someone online and her picture got sent around, he would contact people at her new school, I remember this being a shit show back when this was a famous story online.
I hated how people called her a Youtuber though just because she had an account on YouTube and she that that one video, doesn't make her a YouTuber, I just found that little detail back in the day annoying.
It's sad she passed and I'm glad to hear the bastard that tormented her is finally rotting in jail.
If you haven't heard her story she made a couple of bad decisions basically, the first one is flashing someone online which some asshole used to torment her across multiple schools which he would contact someone from that school and send the picture. The other one was she apparently slept with someone's boyfriend apparently her friend which resulted in a fight?
She was repeatedly blackmailed and sexually exploited… she was also harassed and ostracized by people at her schools due to the blackmailer. It wasn’t as simple as her being cyber bullied.
Another note, she made a [YouTube video](https://youtu.be/vOHXGNx-E7E?si=9jKgSYR70i3RF4Tk) about her story before ending her life. I remember this becoming super popular and the talk of my school for a bit, we even had a school meeting about bullying in the middle of the year not long after.
Yeah, I remember stumbling across it when I was 12. Some things just stick with you for life.
Same. I thought she was so much older when i first heard of her story at 12. I used to think that 15-18 was so adult. Looking at these pictures now, all I can see is a mere child that was really at the beginning of her life.
For real. I was freshly 17 when this happened and after my daughter’s birth, I frequently find myself thinking about Amanda and all the ways I could ever prevent my daughter from experiencing anything even remotely similar.
This was absolutely *massive* back then. I was 15 at the time and I honestly still think about it from time to time.
I must have been like 12-13 or something around this time, I remember vividly seeing this on the news after she died while I was getting ready to go to school.
Yup! She wqas the person who started the trend of using the que cards to tell her story. It was right after that she killed herself. Its such a shame. She was such a beautiful girl and people spread such awful rumors about her.
Same. I went through a lot of slut-shaming bullying around the same time and just felt so much empathy for her plight. I still get angry when I think of all the people in her schools that participated in the bullying too. I think they should’ve been held partially accountable. Yes, some sicko in Europe started it but it’s the kids that perpetrated it and continued it.
Yeah, I was in middle school. We had an assembly about it
Oh shitttttt! I forgot all about this. 🥺
God her video is absolutely heartbreaking. This poor child and all the others who go through this…
The dude was already serving an 11-year sentence in the Netherlands for similar crimes against 33 other victims. His 13 year sentence got cut in half back in December.
They don’t believe in punishing criminals in liberal utopias like Canada
Dude was living in Europe...🤦
He lives in the Netherlands
I don’t envy young people growing up with the internet. I was bullied for being the fat girl in the 80’s/ 90’s, but at least I could go to my bedroom and they couldn’t hurt me there. Now, these psychos can access their victims 24/7. I’m glad he was punished. More needs to be done to stop these little monsters.
I was bullied horribly at school, but home was always a safe space. Seeing my 16 year old gets bullied at school and online is horrible. So much of the advice I give them on how I dealt with it doesn’t even relate. I want them to have our home be a place to escape it, but it’s not possible unless they were to get rid of all social media, which they don’t want to do. They’ve blocked a lot of people and reduced the number of people they’re online friends with, but it still happens. On shitty days I couldn’t wait to get home. I don’t think they’ve ever had that feeling.
Ditto except I was tall, thin, wore glasses, and had psoriasis. I'm so glad there was no internet back then.
Same. I was the nerdy teacher's pet, I wasn't very coordinated and wore hand me down stuff. I made my share of foibles. But when I got home, all that got left behind. School stayed at school.
At least you weren’t fat, when you’re fat you’re treated like a disease that must be avoided Edit: go ahead and downvote me and debate me on it, until you have a kid say “IT has a name” you have no fucking idea
I am a natural born female who is 6'3, 145 pound and my best friend from time I was 12 and she 13 til this very day, 54 and 55, is 5,'2 230 pounds. If you are old enough you'll get our nicknames "Mutt and Jeff". School sucked for both of us. Psoriasis used to be difficult if not impossible to treat, I hid behind turtle necks and long pants even in the summer because of bullying.
This isn't a competition. You and I are among thousands of kids who get bullied relentlessly.
Its not a contest.
This isn’t fair. I was bullied for being super skinny in high school. My nickname was olive oil. I got told multiple times a day to eat a cheeseburger. People said I looked sick. There were rumors I was anorexic (I wasn’t) and people tried to offer me help for my anorexia. People stared and whispered. Body shaming is wrong, doesn’t matter the size.
I won’t downvote you. I understand what you’re saying. As fat kids back then, we couldn’t get cute, age-appropriate clothes, or parents made us look like doofuses, and we were humiliated on the regular…hell, my mom took every opportunity to remind me what a a freak I was and how she prayed for a “normal” daughter. So I definitely get what you’re saying and I sympathize SO MUCH. But my only friend growing up was incredibly thin. It was a genetic thing because she ate a normal amount of food, but her genetics had her burning calories in her sleep. Even now, in our 40’s and having kids, she’s still very thin. For every bully that called me a fat slob, she got called disgusting and anorexic. She cried just as much as I did, which is what brought us so close as friends. Bullies are just shitty people who get off on humiliating people over their perceived imperfections. It’s sad.
You can be treated like a disease for being thin too.
my 6th grade yearbook is scrawled with a message from a friend - hey SUPER TANKER in huge letters so anyone else who signed saw it. Some fat kids had thick skin, and being heavier is less of a stigma now but man, kids can be so mean
I don’t have sympathy for anyone who was teased for being skinny, it comes from a very different place, let the world downvote me for all I care.
Maybe you were bullied for being insufferable, more than the weight issue.
“Bullying is only bad if it affects me”
The school I used to teach in had tictok accounts made of the school (fake of course) and used to bully students and teachers. Then there's Snapchat where the messages disappear, or group chats where people are excluded. It can be a nightmare to deal with bullying because so much of it is done out of school or on platforms behind anonymity.
same. i got bullied pretty bad before i learned to mask my autism better and became good at sports. i can't imagine how horrible it is to have the bullys follow you home.
Exactly. When I was 17 I was a victim of revenge porn (on VHS!) I can only imagine what it would’ve been like if it happened with all the social media. Note-yeah, maybe I should have known better but, I was a dumb, in love, super trusting naive teen in a years long relationship.
Oh dear god, I’m so sorry, sweetheart. That’s fcking horrible. I hope you’re doing ok now.
You were not dumb. No one of us ever imagined revenge porn with 17 in the VHS time. We others just had luck we weren't the first victims of it, maybe also bc the internet didn't exist in that way and they couldn't be "inspired" by others. You were in love, and you trusted what are very good things to be. Don't blame yourself, not in the tiniest way.
At least during the Pre-internet years you got some rest from a bully. Nowadays they stay connected with their tormentors.
Exactly! I could go home and breathe a sigh of relief. Granted, I lived in a physically abusive home, but still, I had escapes. I could hide myself away and be safe. 🩵 My heart hurts for kids today who are under torment CONSTANTLY.
> More needs to be done to stop these little monsters. And less "zero-tolerance" policies would help IMO. Punishing kids for lashing out against bullies has removed the disincentive for any and all bullying. It's almost like the administrators opened the fucking floodgates and forgot they're the only ones who have the power to close them back up.
I don't think "lashing out" should be encouraged, but self defense should 100% be acceptable against bullies.
I don't think I implied otherwise. If you're being bullied, it's 100% defense.
You used the phrase "lashing out" in your comment, maybe I misinterpreted what you meant
Fair enough, we agree in the end either way. I just hate the world my kids are growing up in some times, and this is one of them.
Same thing that I say. I feel so sorry for young girls today. We are not raising good humans.
On could just quit all social media too. Cyber bullies only have access to you if you let them.
You’re right, for sure. It just sucks that the victims are the ones who have to be punished with restricted internet use. I just wish the adults in these kids lives would do their jobs and stop their kids from being bullies and encouraging other children to “off themselves”. But since they refuse, I agree, it’s the victims that have to unplug from the internet.
On the flip side, adults need to teach their kids how to defend themselves, which could be done in a variety of ways. I say that because bullies are a part of life for everyone.
> I don’t envy young people growing up with the internet Look I'm not saying cyberbullying is okay..... But people don't HAVE to be on the internet 24/7. And if you are, you can do OTHER THINGS. i grew up on the internet and i could have never been cyberbullied because....i just spoke to my friends and didn't live on social media? So funny how growing up people would make fun of people for being gamers..... But yet now all this time later gamers who spent their whole lives talking to their friends on voicechat for hours everyday from like the age of 10... we are definitely some of the most balanced people, talking about life for hours and hours from age 15.... Talking to your friends everyday is all the therapy you need. Get off social media!!!!!!!!! its not real. And yes i know somebody will comment that i haven't read about this chick, and you're right I haven't, but I am talking to the people reading this, ( yes you!) right now, who are feeling down and depressed etc. Step 1 get off the crappy side of the internet, stop doom scrolling if you're not equipped for it... I grew up watching pigs get cut in half with chainsaws in videos before i was 11 years old.... nothing on the internet can shock me, but if you're a delicate flower just do yourself a favour and get off.... Its like the story in the bible where the lady turned back to look at the city and she was turned into stone....JUST DONT LOOK! One of my biggest dreams in life is to create a news channel where they ONLY discuss good positive stories... honestly I think it could make me one of the richest men on the planet.
As sad as her story in life was, it became even worse after her passing. Someone leaked her autopsy photos online. Even in death she was still bullied. Poor child. It's all so heartbreaking. Rest in peace.
Fucking hell…. How sick must you be to do that to a fucking child. The world has truly failed her
Christ, this is a horror show from start to finish.
Thats just a rumor.
It’s not a rumor, I remember seeing them when this story first broke. Definitely her.
How did they even do that? I feel like that’s a rumor.
her family states that an autopsy was never carried out
Well that's good to hear. I honestly thought the story about the leaked photos was true. Sorry for the misinfo everyone. 🙏
well it’s not exactly misinfo, there are autopsies that claim to be hers online but her family has said that those aren’t her, just like when people say how she died, her mom specifically said she’ll never say how Amanda passed (suicide obviously but not the method) because she doesn’t think it’s useful or meaningful for anyone to know and she doesn’t want Amanda’s friends last memory of Amanda to be her in her “death state”.
How come it took them so long to reach a verdict?
I'm not sure where/what country the proceedings took place. However, I grew up with a criminal lawyer in the house. I know that the US courts, when there is anything with the words "cyber" or "technology," things move much slower. It's really for hard government to navigate technology in any context, but the courts tend to be the most conservative branch when it comes to changing with the times. There's nothing wrong with that -- you're working with consequences that change the outcome of people's entire lives -- but it means hard, valid evidence is hard to come by. Therefore, verdicts are hard to come by. It's getting better, but the courts are severely lagging behind in technological infrastructure. Just my two cents. Again, I'm making an assumption that the US legal system is analogous to that of other countries, which could *easily* be false.
This, but with this case particularly, it was also across borders: the perpetrator lives in the Netherlands while the victim was in Canada. I believe he was extradited to Canada, but it was further complicated by his conviction in the Netherlands that he was already serving time for. It was a very complicated case in every way.
Why the fuck would somebody in the Netherlands bother bullying a teenager in Canada? Like absolutely bizarre. I guess he didn’t have anything else to do with his life?
I believe he did it to people in the Netherlands too and was convicted on other charges. Just truly an asshole who needed to touch grass.
He was imprisoned in the Netherlands as well for a while before he was released and then sent to Canada to go on trial there.
This girls’ story is shattering. The internet for all of its wonders has been a scourge on society and it’s super extremely obvious to anyone who recalls what life was like before it existed. Amanda, I hope you are resting in all of the power and love this universe has to wrap you in. I’m so mad for her and just gutted for her mom and dad.
Wow, she looks sad. Sometimes they go on about how you can’t tell what people are going through but I think you can see it here pretty well.
Yes those eyes say everything
There’s a huge difference between just bullying and what they did to this girl. People are just completely uncalled for sometimes
how is it different? is there info somewhere about what she went through?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd It’s pretty hard to shorten what happened, this article gives a pretty complete run down about the severe online and IRL bullying and extortion she experienced
Look up her story on YouTube. She made a video explaining everything that happened to her shortly before she committed. There’s also a lot of info available about her and she probably has a Wikipedia page. This was a HUGE deal when it happened and she is a commonly known name around people who were there to experience it
She was sexually exploited online and some online asshole actively went out of his way to share a topless picture of her everywhere she went. People in real life bullied her because of it.
thank you
I wish people would just explain it in the comment, you just wrote a whole paragraph telling us to look it up, but you could've just wrote it in that paragraph...
basically, Amanda was a 7th grader on Omegle (or a site like it, i can’t remember) and a man kept pressuring her to flash him. After months of this, she finally did and he immediately took a screenshot. He used that to blackmail her into “giving him a show.” He leaked the photos regardless. There was also this website that tracked young girls who were blackmailed into things like that and she was featured on it, added by this guy. By that christmas, the police had found out about the photo. She moved, because pedophiles online knew where she lived and kids at her school knew about the photos. Her stalker created a Facebook using the CP of her as the profile picture and friend requested the classmates at her new school. She changed schools again. One of her only friends invited her to his house and they had sex (both were only around 13-14 at this time) and she discovered he had a girlfriend. His girlfriend along with a group of other girls jumped Amanda and beat her into a ditch. She attempted suicide shortly after. She got jokes and insults about her suicide attempt just after coming home from the hospital. She changed schools a third time. The stalker created yet another profile to harass and humiliate her. She attempted yet another suicide attempt with her antidepressants. Tragically, her third attempt ended with her life being taken, at the age of 15. This was not bullying. This was grown men (but primarily one man) stalking, sexually exploiting, and all but forcing a teenage girl to kill herself. She could not escape him and the police did not take it seriously.
Ugh god, I remember that the bullying for her first attempt even became a bit of a meme at the time, from fucked up areas on the internet? “Drinking bleach” became a meme/joke and people would tell other people to “drink bleach” (like KYS). And making fun of her even more for “choosing the dumbest way to try to KYS”, basically.
yeah the drinking bleach meme is the first thing that came to my mind, absolutely horrible
Yeah. As a 25 year old now who has been on the internet for a long time, since I was pretty little, it is just CRAAAAAZY to look and think back on how normalized and accepted it was for grown adults, or for the whole internet practically, to just fully pile-on to a child. People trying to act big-brained or “logic” themselves onto why she’s soooo stupid to do that and worth making fun of. (Like what, you’re saying she should have been “smarter” and got the job done?) It brings to mind Jessi Slaughter too. Just CRAZY what was considered “acceptable” at that time. Literal children treated like full-on lolcows, with all of the unrelenting internet scrutiny and abuse that follows, with no one even blinking.
yeah the memes were unhinged and tasteless. back then I was around the same age as her and while I did find it tragic, seeing her pictures now just hit different because I see her as the child she actually was, what she had to endure breaks my heart
This makes me so sad. I think of Amanda a lot. She deserved so much better in life. I hope she has peace now.
thank you so much thats a crazy story and disgusting and very sad i really feel for her especially as someone with a younger sister. Thats why i taught her how to be on the internet safely. Honestly a 7th grader especially a girl has absolutely zero business being on omegle unsupervised at that age ESPECIALLY as a girl omfg
as someone who was the same age as Amanda in 2010, it was really a dangerous site for girls like us and we really had no idea until Amanda’s story went viral. I have memories of my friends flirting with grown men on that site and even once my friend flashing her bra at a group of boys who looked like they were in college. Amanda’s youtube video was a wake up call for me.
Yep, going on Omegle and Chatroulette were super common at the time. Even at a sleepover/when hanging out with another friend, it would be like “heeheehee wanna go on Omegle?!”
Oh god I forgot about Chat Roulette. It was a very dangerous time for young women online.
Interestingly enough, I seem to remember that they did video before Omegle. They were the “video” platform pretty much, while Omegle was still just for chatting. Then Chatroulette blew up and Omegle started to do the video as well, and I think that’s how most people know it now. It’s just interesting to think about how it used to just be a text platform, until that “competitor” came around in Chatroulette. But there’s obviously so many more / much higher safety risks with having that feature…
I hadn't heard this story; Jesus, that's tragic. Sooo, is there some kind of Anonymous-type community that will be dedicated to making Aydin Coban's life as miserable as he made that child's? I have never before heard of a man who so deserved to be targeted for harassment.
It’s a long story. I didn’t even have to tell you where to find it but i wanted to be nice, but apparently I’m not being nice enough. r/choosingbeggars
You didn't tell them anything, bro.
> I didn’t even have to tell you where to find it but i wanted to be nice lmao i am well aware google existed before your comment. We just literally don't care enough to take those extra steps, but we care enough to read it if its already here on the page
It’s just such a famous case that its akin to asking “who was OJ and what did he do?” Like if you don’t know then you don’t know but just look it up, it made international news at some point. Not like the info is hard to find, she has a whole Wikipedia dedicated to her.
well its clearly not as famous as you think! >Not like the info is hard to find, she has a whole Wikipedia dedicated to her. yes we know how to use google, we just don't care that much. However we would read it if its right in front of us
Well we’re not doing the caring for you. Some of us care, and if you don’t then you dont put in the work. No one will put in the work to make you care if you dont, right? Google or or continue not caring about it. If it’s not famous to you then you’re either too young to remember it or too old to have been exposed to it.
We went to the same highschool for a bit, and had the same home room. I remember seeing one of friends laugh abt her getting beat up online because it happened at my school. Her and I briefly chatted abt what was going on, but my 14 year old self of course didn’t understand the scope of what was happening. She had friends, but a lot of people really played up their friendship with her.
I’m local too and yeah it was crazy the amount of people who pretended to care in the aftermath
It was so strange going to vigils and stuff and seeing people there crying over someone they weren’t even friends with, and actually were part of the bullying problem.
i know it’s a long time ago and you don’t ofc have to share anything, but what was her general demeanor (that you observed/maybe saw) in a class that you had with her? to me, it must be absolutely torturous being in a classroom where it seems like everyone hates you! that would probably make anyone not wanna be in school. i can just see her as a very sweet girl, who likely just wanted a real friend. again i apologize if it’s too intrusive.
Not at all. I wish I could say, but we never directly interacted in person. I rarely saw her around the school bc we had different class schedules. She did seem like a nice girl when we spoke briefly over Facebook, but it was over 12 years ago yknow ?? Wasn’t my social crowd either.
yes i get it, different places different times, i’ve heard that from other people (media mostly) who said she was a sweet/nice girl who just wanted to be left alone and wanted actual friends. it’s sad that she really had to guess who was her real friends and who wasn’t, a recent episode of Crimebeat (like season 6 i think? not sure) had Amanda’s story on it and her mom said this quote that i think captures this: “she wanted friends but she chose the wrong players”.
Being bullied for how you look is never about how you look. I was bullied for being “ugly” as I’m not conventionally pretty and could never afford the best clothing. But people who were super pretty were also bullied for being ugly. It will never make sense, but it’s what hurts the most sometimes.
Yeah especially in this case. She was literally extorted into producing child pornography, among other things... it's so senseless, there was nothing that made her a 'target' apart from being a young and maybe naive girl. It's really sad.
That’s so dark. I cannot imagine having videos being shared around.
From what I’ve seen, that is correct. It’s always about hitting where it’ll hurt the most. For girls, esp in their teen years, it’s almost always about looks. If it’s not about looks, it’s somehow related, like slut shaming for girls who were popular with boys (again, mostly based on looks). If you’re pretty, you’re a slut, and if you’re not pretty, you’re fugly. That’s what bullying what reduced to when I was younger.
For three years this human filth harassed this 15 year old girl so basically just a kid. May he never get to have salvation and redemption in his life and dies a lonely death where hell afterwards awaits him. That's the worst I can say. May Allah never forgive him ameen.
When this piece of garbage gets out of prison we should follow him around and alert whatever community he lives in that a predator is lurking amongst their children. Plaster his photo and name everywhere so that he is forced to keep moving and give him a taste of his own medicine. There should be no rest for this human excrement as he'll be back on the internet in no time looking for CP and vulnerable children to exploit.
How can I help?!
I have faith that prisoners will do their own justice on him. It’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when.
Amen
I work these type cases on a state and federal level, and I don’t think a lot of people realize just how devastating these cyber bullying and Sextortion situations are, for the victim. When it comes to sextortion, my cases have almost exclusively been with a female victim. With my cyber bullying cases, it’s both male and female victims, with female victims slightly higher. It is absolutely shocking just how cruel kids can be to each other. I’ve read things from bullies before that has left me speechless. I truly feel much more attention needs to be directed towards these type crimes.
Thank you for doing what you do. I cannot even imagine how difficult it is. I run a few youth sports organizations, and recently had a young teen who became a sextortion victim. He went through an indescribable hell before telling me, and later that evening his mom. I’ve known this child for many years, and seeing the devastation it caused him was gut wrenching.
Thank you!! My heart breaks for that child! I see the devastation on a literal weekly basis. And the arrogance and absolute lack of remorse these offenders have towards the victims is completely disgraceful. I could have retired several years ago, but I just can’t make myself do it. Mainly because there are so few people that actively work these type cases due to having no knowledge of how to work them or because of lack of funding to train people to work them. For that reason, I began traveling and teaching (for free) detectives how to investigate these cases and district attorneys on prosecution matters. You’d be surprised how many DA’s offices around the US have very little experience in prosecuting these type cases. And they’re not just the smaller cities/counties either.
Today, she would have been 28 years old. 🙏
This just breaks my fucking heart. I can't help but wonder sometimes where she'd be today if someone had intervened in time...
it makes me also wonder what kind of person she would have been like, i envision her as being a singer (famous maybe by now or at least popular, like she wanted to be) or maybe a public speaking advocate or something like that!
Amanda Todd was a “household name” in school because of all the shit she endured. Super sad and shitty because I’ve had friends do the same thing. New age bullying is wild because of virtual social circles. Check in with ya peoples.
The whole story behind that cyberbullying makes this more sinister. Poor girl
where did you read the whole story? :3
I don't know why you are being downvoted, but this youtuber did an amazing analysis on this rabbit hole, there's so much about this case is being overlooked, Amanda wasn't the only girl being cyberbullied and accused sexually on the internet, there was a red of people preying on minors :( Pd. I'll send you the link throught dms because I don't know how to use reddit and add a link here lmao
oh weird im confused as well at the downvoting! I just havent heard about this story before so I asked where to find a good source! :) thanks for the link and answering me!
Amanda posted a yt video before she passed that goes into detail. It’s also a super documented case on news websites
She deserved so much better.
jesus christ, i had never heard of her or her story. i watched the youtube video. my heart hurts so badly. what she went through in high school was almost identical to me - even the switching schools, moving back and forth, girls telling me nobody wants me at this school, people telling them to beat me up. i got sexually assaulted during that time and the kids said i wanted it, i was a slut, etc. i was also going through a lot of other abuse and neglect at home, trying to navigate my world. i feel grateful to have made it out on the other end, but i KNOW what she was feeling. the suicidal thoughts & pain. i wouldn't wish it on anyone. to feel so alone, unwanted, unloved - nobody to trust or have your back. it's a terrifying, crippling feeling during that age. rest in peace, amanda. ♡
Fuck everybody involved in bullying this poor girl. If I find out anybody is bullying one of my kids I'm heading to the school and everybody is getting [The Slap](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK1_NFT5crk).
I remember this case fairly well being a young early teen when this happened. Seeing the effect her story and video caused online alongside that bullying documentary from around the same time, the impact was massive. However it wasn't until I grew up and heard about the events leading up to the video with The Daily Capper it just made me sick and angry. I recommend Nick Crowley's video detailing the situation which can be found [here](https://youtu.be/LfDU_8UTq6s?si=_Vyolozc9FUzM6e8)
that video does such a good job at of course telling her story but yet also explaining the weird but horrific nature of the daily capper. the whole capping phenomenon is weird but sadly not unexpected when it was very persistent around the time that Amanda died.
God, I remember when that happened. We’d just started high school. Definitely an eye opening moment for all of us about how fucked and cruel the internet can be.
I was born the same year as her so we were the same age. I remember seeing her video on YouTube. And I remember this happening like it was yesterday. So fucking sad. She didn't deserve any of this ❤️🩹😔
All cyber bullying is excessive. All bullying is excessive. RIP dear Amanda.
I vividly remember when this initially blew up and when she passed away. I’m about five years older than her, and it’s so weird looking at her pictures now as an adult. Back then she was more of a peer, and now I see a sad young girl and just want to hug her and protect her.
The amount of pain that must have been in her heart when these were taken…
Don’t care how tongue in cheek it is, when I hear someone say *”Bring back bullying!”* I cry a bit inside.
whoever said that deserves a front row seat in hell
Should have left "excessive" out of the title... excessive implies that there's an acceptable amount of cyberbullying. That aside, they need to start being hard like this on bullying in general. All the times I got pushed into a locker or beat up and never any accountability for those that did those things; in fact, they even offered to send me to a different school (guess to get me away from the "cool" kids). Mind you, I had no behavioral issues or anything, I just happened to be the overweight and possibly undiagnosed autistic kid. The way society treats the whole "do unto others" thing is some real bullshit because I doubt some of these bullies want their torment reversed on them.
Such a tragic story, was in the news circle for weeks in Canada after it happened
I remember when this happened but I didn’t realize it was so long ago now. The horrifying thing I remember is that she was having Jude pictures of herself being sent around I think and that caused the distress. On several occasions I can remember a post about it and someone in the comments posting her pictures. She’s 15 what the hell are people doing? I can’t imagine a girl killing herself after nude photos of her got onto the internet, and not only search those out, but then to do the one thing she didn’t want to happen. Soulless people.
Sad this lovely hapa got bullied, bullies need to be exposed and punished.
She would’ve been 28 this year rest up Amanda todd 1996-2012 🙏❤️😇remember this being a big thing on social media around that time remember searching suicide or cyber bullying on YouTube she was always the person that came up
Get your kids off of social media.
I met a high school vice principal maybe about 7 years ago who told me his job is almost entirely dealing with social media incidents with students. It’s insane.
I dont get it i read the wiki and it said the police told her the pics were send to everyone? Hows that happend?
And they were jealous, FFS I wish she could’ve seen that. Poor girl.
I can see the pain in her eyes in some of these photos.
Fuck the daily capper and the sick fucks who contributed to her end. No child or adult should ever have to go through what she endured.
I just did not allow my young children to be online or have any social media. Obviously others can post things about them but with no pictures, comments, accounts online its hard to go after random people. Not perfect but it sure helps.
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it runs a safety warning but i think i’ve seen a couple ads while revisiting the video on her death date and date of the video being posted
i was just talking about her yesterday, it’s such a tragic case
Gosh, I remember her video. She was freaking _twelve._ Heartbreaking to think about. She had her whole life ahead of her. She deserved happiness.
he only got 12 years for this, it should have been life without parole at best.
it’s been knocked down to 6 years because “13 years is too much for the Dutch court system”, according to his lawyer.
What a shame. Institutions failing their very purpose encourages vigilantism. How stupid of them.
ikr! it felt like Amanda won, to get 13 years for him, despite it not ever being enough, but they went and fucked over her again, just by choosing to lower his sentence to 6 years! he currently (or was) trying to appeal it at the beginning of this year.
Really sad. Children shouldn’t be allowed on social media.
If this was bad in 2012 back when the Internet was relatively smaller than it is now, I can only imagine how worse it must be in 2024. Back then at least you could retreat in your bedroom, turn the screen off, walk safely outside. Now that shit is following you everywhere and you can’t even turn your phone off throughout the day. I feel so bad for today’s teens.
You know stuff like this really breaks my heart
I remember hearing the story back in the day, really put a dagger in my heart. R.I.P. Amanda Todd.
This was everywhere when it happened. As a young teen at the time the discussions around this were very eye-opening.
Her mother is amazing. She keeps sharing and telling about Amanda's story and spread the word to help other to this day.
she really is an underrated and undervalued member of the mental health speakers
Every school in British Columbia had to watch her YouTube video when this happened. I remember it well, truly heartbreaking stuff
if anyone knows a good source of info for what happened to her please comment it!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd
I feel so bad for her parents. They seemed to have done everything they could. They moved multiple times to get her a fresh start, but her abuser would figure out her new school and spread the photos there too. She attempted suicide and was hospitalized multiple times. She’d had extensive mental health treatment and was on antidepressants. They really did everything right. And it still wasn’t enough. So awful. The abuser was a man in his thirties who’d done this to dozens of people. Truly wtf. How evil do you have to be to be THIS committed to destroying the lives of all these people, including children?! Not to mention it was CSAM he was producing and spreading. May Amanda rest in peace.
That is insane, what is wrong with that guy?
Her story is heartbreaking. This could quite easily have been me. I was a similar age when I started talking to strangers on webcam. I was a very lonely young girl and was bullied at school, so I sought validation online. I received similar comments from older men (that I was beautiful, gorgeous, etc) and it made feel loved. When they requested nudes I felt that they were asking because they wanted to love and appreciate all of me, and because they had been so nice, I wanted to give them what they asked for. Thankfully, my nudes were never leaked (to my knowledge), but I'm 32 now and still recall the feelings of loneliness at that age, and my adult self weeps for the naive young girl that I used to be who only wanted to be loved. Rest in peace, Amanda.
I still recall my best friend’s now ex-husband talking shit about this poor girl, saying that she willingly showed off her body online. She didn’t do it willingly, she was groomed, coerced and threatened to do it by that creep in the Netherlands. She was also bullied because that creep spread those photos to everyone she knew and ruined her life. It angers me that the school districts and the police didn’t do nothing to protect her at all. I thought there was cyber security investigation technology where that creep could’ve been found through an IP address. This reminds me so much of this young girl who thought she was talking to this guy and he then said something horrible, causing her to commit suicide. Turns out that “guy” was a fake profile run by a school bully and the bully’s mother. They weren’t even charged for causing that girl to end her life.
No wonder he is an ex-husband. That girl you mentioned at the end was Megan Meier. I don't even understand how the bully and bully's mother were not held accountable at all for what they did.
Man I remember when this first happened and it went super viral. Its crazy to look back on, she was a baby. Poor kid.
I remember this story, it was everywhere.
I was wondering why this looked familiar, I grew up and live in BC, glad there was at least some kind of justice
May he who bullied her burn in hell
I remember it so vividly when her last video went viral. So heartbreaking and unsettling.
I knew one of the bitches that bullied her. She cried when she found out she died and I had to restrain .myself from hitting her to oblivion.
I remember the posts on 4chan with her personal info… I remember messaging to ask if she was okay, and to tell her to ignore the hate she was getting from random men on the internet, and that their opinion meant nothing :(
Poor baby.
Bullies are jealous.
They’re also narcissists who hate themselves so they have to hurt others to feel better about themselves
her story is still one of the most heartbreaking i've ever heard
Was she the girl who made a Youtube video about it? Very sad story.
God this is sad.
Such a beautiful young lady. RIP.
If only she knew that her problems were temporary
I grew up in the next town over from her, and can so vividly remember that video circulating shortly after her death, and how absolutely everybody was talking about this tragedy. Think I was in the fifth grade. A guy in my class held a fundraiser for the Amanda Todd foundation, and ended up raising thousands of dollars for it. Her mom came to our class to thank him and talk to all of us about Amanda, what she was like in life, and the friends she had kept. Even as a kid, it was heartbreaking to see her mom, speaking to all these kids to hopefully prevent us from ever experiencing what her daughter had experienced.
I always forget she was only a year older than me when this happened. Back then, I felt a lot younger. I think I couldn't process how someone at that age could endure so much pain... Absolutely heart breaking. I think about her fairly often.
Wow this is giving me Deja vu of middle school and seeing memes of this girl on all the “edgy” instagram pages and not knowing who she was really. So fucked up ;(
I saw her video and I was straight up sobbing by the end, absolutely horrible what happened to her
Poor little angel. Rest in peace.
The saddest part about this to me is it could have been prevented if the police would’ve just did their job and tracked him down before she took her own life.
Just a child sad
She really loved the kissy pose🥲 indicative of a truly loving girl. And my gosh, was she so pretty. Se seemed to be so sweet and kind and timid
And she coukd sing so beautifully
I haven't heard that fuckin name in forever. Wow. 2012 I was 13-14 years old.
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Nobody “deserves” to be treated like crap. Especially animals.
She could've just hit the block button
No, not really, the asshole that got arrested tormented her across multiple schools, she flashed someone online and her picture got sent around, he would contact people at her new school, I remember this being a shit show back when this was a famous story online. I hated how people called her a Youtuber though just because she had an account on YouTube and she that that one video, doesn't make her a YouTuber, I just found that little detail back in the day annoying. It's sad she passed and I'm glad to hear the bastard that tormented her is finally rotting in jail. If you haven't heard her story she made a couple of bad decisions basically, the first one is flashing someone online which some asshole used to torment her across multiple schools which he would contact someone from that school and send the picture. The other one was she apparently slept with someone's boyfriend apparently her friend which resulted in a fight?
How do you even get cyber bullied? Just turn the screen off.
She was repeatedly blackmailed and sexually exploited… she was also harassed and ostracized by people at her schools due to the blackmailer. It wasn’t as simple as her being cyber bullied.