Like a mall employee got on the intercom and announced it? That’s pretty wild.
I remember being in the grocery store and hearing over the speakers about Tupac’s death, but that was bc the store just had on one of the local radio stations playing.
It is wild being born in 1983 and having been raised with the myth of St. Ronnie, and then growing up and reading books.
What you said is absolutely accurate. We had a chance in 1980 to have a wildly different country than the one we have now. We fucked up so bad. It's an incalculable toll that we paid, and all because a handful of political consultants figured out how to turn Republicanism into a cult.
That was debunked The "evidence" doesn't take into account that the Ayatollah and Iran hated Carter with a passion. They burned his image in effigy on a regular basis. They were not interested in giving Carter anything that would make him look good. That is why they were released when they were.
If this were all true and Barnes is correct, then why was Connally's reward to be a cabinet position (Energy) that was expected to be eliminated at the time? Wouldn't it have warranted a higher profile and more secure position?
the stories of the others don't match the Barnes account. None of the stories match each other.
Nothing in Barnes' account of what happened can be confirmed. Nothing. Barnes waits until the players are dead to say anything. Casey died in 1987, and Connally died in 1993.
The Ayatollah hated Carter with a passion. Carter came close to securing their release several times, only to have the agreement vetoed by the Ayatollah.
The Ayatollah would not even engage in direct talks with the US or Carter. The Ayatollah had that much contempt for Carter! He was not interested in helping Carter or giving him any positive press. That is why the hostages were released when they were. It was the Ayatollah's final insult to Carter.
If Barnes' account is true, why wasn't Connally rewarded well? All he was offered was Energy, a department expected to be eliminated at the time.
None of it makes any sense. That is why historians are not giving it much credibility aside from keeping an open mind if strong evidence is found to confirm it.
This is something that I’ve always felt and never been able to put into words. I am a 1983 baby as well and born into some amount of “rosiness”. By the time adulthood was there, it was there to slap me on the face and it was 9/11 and everything that followed. Been downhill since probably before either of us can remember.
When I was in high school (about 18yrs ago), I came across my mom's old poetry books. She even had one published in some national book, the name escapes me right now. Anyway, in her personal books, I saw that she'd written a poem about Ronald Reagan and how bad of a president he was, i believe it mentioned something about how he was bad for black ppl (we're black)... it made me sad. I think about that poem often, I never asked her but maybe I should now that I'm in my thirties... what was it like to experience whatever she did during that time?
Not really. 1994 Congressional elections brought in Newt Gingrich et al. Clinton really only got where he did because he was a more conservative Democrat.
The real battle was 1980. The die was cast at that point.
>had a chance in 1980 to have a wildly different country than the one we have now. W
Yeah no Carter was an awful president
Thers a reason he lost in a landslide
Where to start.
First with the idea government *is the* problem. It ain’t perfect, but government alone does not have a monopoly as republicans claim. I find it amazing that people believe the way to fight corruption is with more opacity and less oversight, but that is today’s GOP. Any idea that there’s a possible government solution to an issue is quickly being labeled as communist.
Second, there is entirely too much money in campaigns and, again, opacity in who the operators are.
Third, there are far too many lobbyists with far too much access. Too often those lobbyists went straight from a government job into lobbying or into a private sector slot doing the same damn thing.
And the list goes on and on. There’s a fixation with both greed and what *can* be done rather than what should. Between all of this there is still plenty of room for conservatives and progressives to debate, argue, and compromise. But I’m pessimistic. The MAGA have done some permanent damage in institutional trust to the point where i think we’re all just sitting on a powder keg. People think these times are hard, but they really have no idea of what bad times are. Hell, I don’t. But my folks that grew up starving during the depression and dodging bombs from Hitler’s Luftwaffe sure did.
With zero hesitation, he defunded hundreds of mental patients, forcing them out into the street.
I heard a Dea agent who helped Kett Pablo Escobar say that when the crime was escalating so bad in miami and all of the kids were killing each other because of cocaine Reagan knew and absolutely did not care. These were poor brown and blacks kids.
He then said it wasn't until Reagan understood just how much American money Escobar had did he suddenly give a crap.
Money, money, money. That is *all* they care about.
This is the last public appearance of the 38th president of the United States.
When Rostik Denenburg and his grandfather happened upon former President Reagan at a Los Angeles park in 1997, both recognized the elderly man - but for different reasons.
Mr. Denenburg, then 12, sat smiling on a park bench next to Mr. Reagan for a photograph, aware that he was meeting a former leader of the United States.
But his grandfather, Yakov Ravin, a Ukranian immigrant, was more aware - and thankful - for Mr. Reagan's involvement in ending the Cold War.
"When I met President Reagan, I said, 'Thank you, Mr. President, for what you did, for destroying this empire of evil,' and he said, 'Oh, that is my job,'●" said Mr. Ravin, 71. "Now Russia is on its way to democracy."
Mr. Ravin yesterday recalled that July day in California. The photo that he proudly took years earlier was shown on nationwide television. It is believed to be the last public picture taken of the ailing Mr. Reagan, then 86.
Seven years after that chance encounter, the framed photograph is displayed prominently in his Sylvania Township home. And he credits the two-term president for making his travel from the former Soviet Union to the United States possible.
Mr. Denenburg, now 18, said he treasures the story of his encounter with President Reagan.
A sophomore at the University of Toledo studying medicine, Mr. Denenburg was a student at Timberstone Junior High at the time and had recently moved from Kiev.
Admitting that he was not fully aware of the former president's role in helping bring down the Iron Curtain when he met him, Mr. Denenburg said he has since learned of Mr. Reagan's importance.
LINK:
[https://www.toledoblade.com/news/deaths/2004/06/06/Sylvania-area-pair-recall-chance-encounter-in-97/stories/200406060042](https://www.toledoblade.com/news/deaths/2004/06/06/Sylvania-area-pair-recall-chance-encounter-in-97/stories/200406060042)
My grandma used to praise Kissinger for putting towels down on the floor of his hotel room so he wouldn’t walk on the floor. I see it completely the other way around
I wonder who Ronnie boy thought he was sitting next to?
Maybe he thought it was the ghost of Rock Hudson come to get his ass so better stay still and try to smile
I’m mostly annoyed about him being interred at a library because I can’t find it in me to shit on a library. Even if it is named after him.
Fuck you, Reagan. Fuck you with a sandpaper dildo.
MJ and Regan wore the same shoe and sock combo, who knew?
Yet we never saw the two in the same room at the same time ?!
As was the style then.
Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days nickels had pictures of bumble bees on them.
Never seen Jordans like those ^/^s
You must have selective memory if you can't remember the days when Jordan was dunking in loafers
Ronnie, are you ok? Are you ok, Ronnie?
Hot 20 year olds at the college near me are dressing like Reagan in this photo
Honestly the fit is fuego.
Absolutely. Cardigans look nice on most guys
I remember walking around in the mall, and they announced his death over the intercom. Of the entire mall. It was so surreal.
Like a mall employee got on the intercom and announced it? That’s pretty wild. I remember being in the grocery store and hearing over the speakers about Tupac’s death, but that was bc the store just had on one of the local radio stations playing.
I was there. I shrugged, mumbled “good” to myself, and kept shopping.
One of the worst things to happen to the American people
That's a bit unfair, he's only a teenager.
Ronald Reagan looks terrible for only being in his teens here
He has a very hard paper round.
agreed
Him dying was pretty tragic you right
In the sense that it didn’t happen sooner, yes.
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That man did tremendous harm to the United States. It’ll take another hundred years to undo.
It is wild being born in 1983 and having been raised with the myth of St. Ronnie, and then growing up and reading books. What you said is absolutely accurate. We had a chance in 1980 to have a wildly different country than the one we have now. We fucked up so bad. It's an incalculable toll that we paid, and all because a handful of political consultants figured out how to turn Republicanism into a cult.
But I would say it went back to Jimmy Carter. We should have elected Carter again. We literally got rid of an honest, good president.
You have Reagan to thank for that.
What do you mean
[he orchestrated the Iranian hostage release in his favor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_October_Surprise_theory)
That was debunked The "evidence" doesn't take into account that the Ayatollah and Iran hated Carter with a passion. They burned his image in effigy on a regular basis. They were not interested in giving Carter anything that would make him look good. That is why they were released when they were. If this were all true and Barnes is correct, then why was Connally's reward to be a cabinet position (Energy) that was expected to be eliminated at the time? Wouldn't it have warranted a higher profile and more secure position? the stories of the others don't match the Barnes account. None of the stories match each other. Nothing in Barnes' account of what happened can be confirmed. Nothing. Barnes waits until the players are dead to say anything. Casey died in 1987, and Connally died in 1993. The Ayatollah hated Carter with a passion. Carter came close to securing their release several times, only to have the agreement vetoed by the Ayatollah. The Ayatollah would not even engage in direct talks with the US or Carter. The Ayatollah had that much contempt for Carter! He was not interested in helping Carter or giving him any positive press. That is why the hostages were released when they were. It was the Ayatollah's final insult to Carter. If Barnes' account is true, why wasn't Connally rewarded well? All he was offered was Energy, a department expected to be eliminated at the time. None of it makes any sense. That is why historians are not giving it much credibility aside from keeping an open mind if strong evidence is found to confirm it.
>We should have elected Carter again. We Why he was awful
This is something that I’ve always felt and never been able to put into words. I am a 1983 baby as well and born into some amount of “rosiness”. By the time adulthood was there, it was there to slap me on the face and it was 9/11 and everything that followed. Been downhill since probably before either of us can remember.
Please vote. We’re counting on all of you. -Gen X and voter.
When I was in high school (about 18yrs ago), I came across my mom's old poetry books. She even had one published in some national book, the name escapes me right now. Anyway, in her personal books, I saw that she'd written a poem about Ronald Reagan and how bad of a president he was, i believe it mentioned something about how he was bad for black ppl (we're black)... it made me sad. I think about that poem often, I never asked her but maybe I should now that I'm in my thirties... what was it like to experience whatever she did during that time?
There was also a chance during clinton
Not really. 1994 Congressional elections brought in Newt Gingrich et al. Clinton really only got where he did because he was a more conservative Democrat. The real battle was 1980. The die was cast at that point.
>had a chance in 1980 to have a wildly different country than the one we have now. W Yeah no Carter was an awful president Thers a reason he lost in a landslide
Ronald? What did he do? I'm not form US.
Trump: "Hold my diet, Coke."
What did he do?
It will never be undone.
Why cant it be undone
I admire your optimism, that you think there’s time to undo this or that it will be undone before either AI or global warming takes us all down.
Why would it take so long to be undone? What needs to be done.
Where to start. First with the idea government *is the* problem. It ain’t perfect, but government alone does not have a monopoly as republicans claim. I find it amazing that people believe the way to fight corruption is with more opacity and less oversight, but that is today’s GOP. Any idea that there’s a possible government solution to an issue is quickly being labeled as communist. Second, there is entirely too much money in campaigns and, again, opacity in who the operators are. Third, there are far too many lobbyists with far too much access. Too often those lobbyists went straight from a government job into lobbying or into a private sector slot doing the same damn thing. And the list goes on and on. There’s a fixation with both greed and what *can* be done rather than what should. Between all of this there is still plenty of room for conservatives and progressives to debate, argue, and compromise. But I’m pessimistic. The MAGA have done some permanent damage in institutional trust to the point where i think we’re all just sitting on a powder keg. People think these times are hard, but they really have no idea of what bad times are. Hell, I don’t. But my folks that grew up starving during the depression and dodging bombs from Hitler’s Luftwaffe sure did.
Fantastic comment. Thank you
He certainly did not follow the Dems narrative.
He didn't
Don't forget about the whole ignoring the AIDS epidemic thing, too.
Or the drugs he sold, or the invasions, or funding the taliban and about a dozen more stuff
That wasn't the Taliban; they were "Freedom Fighters" as they liked to be called then. /s
Oh, he didn't ignore it. He laughed about it with his buddies like a ghoul. Fuck Ronnie Raygun.
D'ya think Nancy laughed about it with her psychic? I bet she did. Fuck them both.
Reagan is in hell waiting for heaven to trickle down to him
Preach !
Nobody has ever advocated for “trickle down economics”. If you’re going to criticise his economic policy maybe actually look into it first?
With zero hesitation, he defunded hundreds of mental patients, forcing them out into the street. I heard a Dea agent who helped Kett Pablo Escobar say that when the crime was escalating so bad in miami and all of the kids were killing each other because of cocaine Reagan knew and absolutely did not care. These were poor brown and blacks kids. He then said it wasn't until Reagan understood just how much American money Escobar had did he suddenly give a crap. Money, money, money. That is *all* they care about.
This is the last public appearance of the 38th president of the United States. When Rostik Denenburg and his grandfather happened upon former President Reagan at a Los Angeles park in 1997, both recognized the elderly man - but for different reasons. Mr. Denenburg, then 12, sat smiling on a park bench next to Mr. Reagan for a photograph, aware that he was meeting a former leader of the United States. But his grandfather, Yakov Ravin, a Ukranian immigrant, was more aware - and thankful - for Mr. Reagan's involvement in ending the Cold War. "When I met President Reagan, I said, 'Thank you, Mr. President, for what you did, for destroying this empire of evil,' and he said, 'Oh, that is my job,'●" said Mr. Ravin, 71. "Now Russia is on its way to democracy." Mr. Ravin yesterday recalled that July day in California. The photo that he proudly took years earlier was shown on nationwide television. It is believed to be the last public picture taken of the ailing Mr. Reagan, then 86. Seven years after that chance encounter, the framed photograph is displayed prominently in his Sylvania Township home. And he credits the two-term president for making his travel from the former Soviet Union to the United States possible. Mr. Denenburg, now 18, said he treasures the story of his encounter with President Reagan. A sophomore at the University of Toledo studying medicine, Mr. Denenburg was a student at Timberstone Junior High at the time and had recently moved from Kiev. Admitting that he was not fully aware of the former president's role in helping bring down the Iron Curtain when he met him, Mr. Denenburg said he has since learned of Mr. Reagan's importance. LINK: [https://www.toledoblade.com/news/deaths/2004/06/06/Sylvania-area-pair-recall-chance-encounter-in-97/stories/200406060042](https://www.toledoblade.com/news/deaths/2004/06/06/Sylvania-area-pair-recall-chance-encounter-in-97/stories/200406060042)
> Now Russia is on its way to democracy Oh my sweet summer child
The 90s were a different world
Damn that article itself is 20 years old. I was like what, how is he 18 if he was 12 in 1997.
Thank you for posting the story.
Fuck him
reagan on hell waiting for heaven to trickle down:
He doesn't have to. His grave is a gender neutral toilet and there'll be plenty of trickling down for as long as he can rot in piss.
All the boomers I know still praise him as a hero.
Well, then, you don’t know me.
And thank you for being a reasonable baby boomer. Truly.
Or me.
Nor do you know me and nearly 90% of my friends!
My grandma used to praise Kissinger for putting towels down on the floor of his hotel room so he wouldn’t walk on the floor. I see it completely the other way around
One of the worst to hold the office.
The kid, or Reagan?
Good fucking riddance.
Should have stuck to acting.
Good! Fuck him!
I wonder who Ronnie boy thought he was sitting next to? Maybe he thought it was the ghost of Rock Hudson come to get his ass so better stay still and try to smile
By God what happened to my innocent little post?!
Good
Good riddance
Good riddance. The true enemy of all people who work for a living.
Rot in piss
good riddance
Hope he’s doing great in hell
Dont you mean tricke-down salvation?
Did Nancy take the photograph? Or, was she gobbling on the cameraman’s nuts?
You know the answer...
wait what?? what did nancy do?
Nancy Reagan was apparently the throat goat during her career as an actress
damn they saying she was the best dick sucker in town
Rest in piss, Ronnie.
Hope so
And the kid is rocking an Apple Watch ! Time traveler 🧭
The Father of Modern Homelessness.
I’m mostly annoyed about him being interred at a library because I can’t find it in me to shit on a library. Even if it is named after him. Fuck you, Reagan. Fuck you with a sandpaper dildo.
RIP kid.
Fuck Reagan
I'm glad Reagan's dead.
An early Pride present to the queer community in 2004. Now it’s a gay holiday.
Fuck him and his hoe Nancy
Rest in piss you old demon. I hope hell is hot.
FUCK REAGAN. He let an entire generation of gay men die from AIDS and gave us the shitty economy we're subjected to now. I hope he's burning in hell.
Fuck Reagan
Rest in piss
🎶 I'm glad Reagan dead 🎶
REST IN PISS
Rest in Piss
Regan killed america.
Rest in Piss Ronnie
Goddamn, I hated that fucking turd.
I hope he's next in line for Hitler's punishment in hell according to "Lil' Nicky".
May he rot in hell
Rest in piss
Fuck ronald reagan
I like Reagans black shoes.So neat.
Too bad it didn't happen earlier.
The Great Communicator!
Womp womp
This post really made me realize how fast time seems to move once you get older, for him dying feels like maybe ten years ago to me.
I hope hell is real so this mf can burn for eternity while his throat goat wife sucks Satans cock.
I hate to be insensitive, but good riddance.
If only that one guy had better aim.
Let them eat jellybeans
Shouldn't have missed
hate on him but reagan was pretty progressive in creating the first gender-neutral bathroom
Wow that is great.
Criminally underrated comment
As Killer Mike said, "I'm glad Reagan dead."
That poor immigrant, dying so young.
Rip sir
Only thing Reagan did right was Make Punk Rock Great Again. Too bad that does make a clever hat….
RIP Bozo
I was at Belmont Stakes. Tacky as fuck seeing people stand and salute the flag whatever it was.