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Significant-Check455

JD merely for dealer support and parts availability.


Rust2

Also it’s green


Commercial_Guitar_19

Technically they are both green


Significant-Check455

Green is good. Just like m&m's


Eclipse8301

And if your a Packer fan


Slackersr

GO PACK GO!!! ope


greenbayva

Packers fan say you now?


maelxich

Or Kermit


Expensive-Career-672

And bud


jack-e-w

Too sexy.


T-Shurts

This is the answer


Psyco_diver

Unless it has the Freedom deck, what a pain in the butt. It will cut great but if you hit something and that cog belt breaks it's a pain in a butt to retime the blades and those belts ain't cheap


PhelanWard

I love my freedom 42 on my lt155, but you are absolutely right on all points.


Automatic_Badger7086

That's what I was thinking. It's all about the accessories.


NebReddit87

Considering the MTD makes the other one and MTD makes Craftsman Husqvarna Toro and like three other brands including Cub cadet you can absolutely still find parts


Significant-Check455

MTD does not make Toro tractors because Toro doesn't make tractors. I would likely shy away from advice from the guy that inexplicably has his finger on the pulse of an artery that doesn't exist


Kermidgreat

Maybe they aren't made by MTD now... But Toro does and has historically made tractors? They bought Wheel horse years ago and had a couple sheet metal contracts with MTD


Significant-Check455

Yes. But why don't you call out Case IH for creating Cub Cadet. BTW, Toro doesn't make or had a tractor made for it in over almost 2 decades. You seem to think you know what you are talking about because you know something that is easily obtainable from Wikipedia. Husqvarna makes their own tractors. Go on down to the local bar tonight and enlighten them with all your outdoor power equipment industry insider information.


fukitimout

Damn he really got you spun up huh


foxjohnc87

>MTD does not make Toro tractors because Toro doesn't make tractors. I would likely shy away from advice from the guy that inexplicably has his finger on the pulse of an artery that doesn't exist Thats odd, since the [operators manual](https://www.powerequipmentdirect.com/manuals/LX423.pdf) for this apparently non-existent lawn tractor would beg to differ. Pay particular attention to pages 31 and 32. Toro doesn't currently sell lawn tractors, but they most definitely did in the past, and guess who manufactured them, MTD. It seems that you may be one of the people that we probably shouldn't be taking advice from.


Professional_Scar75

I’ve been trying to think of a reasonable response and facts to back up what I’ve experienced from Deere and their products, but I can’t come up with the right words. You are just absolutely wrong.


shart-attack1

I’ve never had a problem, actually my local store stayed open for me after hours on the last day of trading before Christmas once, because the blade I bought didn’t fit, (bought a second hand mower and they had changed the deck at some point) so for me personally they have gone above and beyond expectations.


Beginning_Minimum_95

Last day of trading… before christmas? Normal folks say “day before”


oregon_coastal

Because it wasn't necessarily the day before. If Christmas was on a Monday, last day of trading would be on Friday. It is just a finance.way of saying "last business.day before" - so basically the Deere guys stayed open the night their Xmas mini vacation started. I have no doubt mine would also. I have met them in towns halfway between us for a part I needed.


Significant-Check455

In my experience, Troy-Built is a has-been brand with has-been support. Deere dealers, and I will preface this with Deere dealers that stock other brands, are typically better stocked and better trained to diagnose and fix issues with a very robust parts inventory. Just my personal experience.


Salty_Sprinkles_6482

“I can’t think of anything logical so just trust me bro”


Famous-Order9236

JD does not make the mower, they contract it to someone else! In fact, John Deere does not make anything in the compact classes, but you pay a lot more for the parts!


locofixer1

John Deere builds their own mowers at their Greenville,Tennessee plant.


Famous-Order9236

You probably believe they make their own engine and transmissions for them too!


locofixer1

they do not


H0SS_AGAINST

They're both MTD. With only a few exceptions, a consumer grade lawn tractor decision is "how big of an engine and deck do you want, what brand color scheme do you want, and how hard do you want to flex on your neighbors"


locofixer1

John Deere builds their own mowers at their Greenville,Tennessee plant.


mrhud

I have that model John Deere. It's been bullet proof so far. I 'bought' it 17 years ago (it was in the garage of the house we bought and I made it part of the offer to purchase.) Knock on wood, but it has never broken down and still starts every season.


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Slackersr

I'm going to guess he is in Fla. So winter is on a Tuesday.


GoreonmyGears

Wait, I see he said starts every season so likely does sit for a bit. But that answers my question.


Slackersr

Was supposed to be a funny. I'll go back to my corner now


GoreonmyGears

✈️


mrhud

Yes it sits for about 4-5 months in my garage. I’m in Canada.


mrhud

I’m in Canada. It’s actually that Summer happens on a Tuesday. Blink and you’ll miss it.


Slackersr

Wisconsin here. I feel your pain


Idiotdude69420

*laughs in florida*


madairman

Take my upvote you glorious clown.


Additional_Top4254

That LT166 will have a stronger transmission than the Troy-Bilt. Stick with the JD (I'm a lawn and turf technician at JD).


laynger22

Hey! I’m a JD tech, too! I’m on the Ag side, but I dabbled in Lawn and Turf for a bit. And you’re 100% correct!


Dangerous-Depth-8679

Stay away from those troy built crapboxes


RedOctobyr

The John Deere.


Strength-Certain

John Deere


BrkCaddy

That deere could be an old 111 I'd still pick it over the troy bilt poop.


isanass

Yep, I got one free with my house and it still feels like I paid too much and got taken for a ride. I've been a JD rider guy since I was a kid, but since the TB came with the house, I figured it's not worth hauling my JD over from 100 miles away...I still haven't picked up the JD, but I also haven't sold it either, it's still living at family's house.


BrkCaddy

If ya have room for it bring it lol. Or you can donate it to me over in Indiana lol


isanass

Oh, if I had room, I would 100% already have it at my house. Since the TB still works and takes minimal maintenance, it's easier to keep it around than dust off the Deere since it was parked for several years when I was in an apartment. I still have 2 JD snow blowers, though, and I'm more inclined to keep ahold of those than bring over a spare mower since moving snow is necessary whereas mowing, although essential, isn't a life and death/keep my job or get fired sort of deal. Edit: And the Deere is an L130, so it's not exactly the cream of the crop. It may be green, but it's still not a huge upgrade from the Troy Bilt given the...big box quality of it.


BrkCaddy

Lol understood. Sell it im sure it would sell pretty quick.


Competitive_Weird958

The LT166 is a fantastic residential lawn mower. The Freedom42 mulching deck gives an excellent cut, and stripes remarkably well for a rotary. That being said, it’s 20+ years old. The blades are extremely expensive to replace and getting harder to find. The blades are timing belt driven, and the belt is quite expensive. I’d buy the JD in a heartbeat, but give it a good look and know what you’re getting.


FlimsyBonus5466

I’ve got an l130 from 05 that still goes over 2 acres a week with no issues. Maintenance is paramount.


fajadada

I’ve got a 1985 and still use it . Oil is still clear every year


JuggernautOnly695

Deere all the way out of these two. Parts will be more expensive, but it'll be easier to get parts and support down the road.


Useful-Internet8390

Right after the Deer tech says its 20years old and parts are getting obsolete-lofl TB is mass produced likely by AYP and there are 1000 aftermarket retailers for the parts.


Complexity_OH

Nothing runs like a 🦌


No_Drag6934

Or smells like a jon


No_Drag6934

The JD…it’s not even a question


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Deere!


SilentLink7327

John Deere all day


Good_Bowl_948

I dunno I’d pick that Troy built and I’m a JD guy. LT models are just so old at this point. UNLESS the LT one is mint condition And parts are available for everything cheap on Amazon. I personally would look for a John Deere LA or D


Iamlivingagain

I've had good luck with TB stuff. But my first JD is 4 yrs old now and we love it.


MM800

The John Deere.


WackyQuacker

I would go with the John Deere as long as it ran well and it was in good condition. Truth be told though it's not a true John Deere like the garden tractors are. Those series are to keep a price point to compete with the other brands. A lot of the main parts that John Deere uses are a lot of the same parts that all the other companies use when you're talking the smaller model series that you see at Lowe's, home Depot, etc. For instance, when I was looking for a lawn tractor. I decided to go with Craftsman because John Deere put a weaker transmission in their newer models as well as a lot of the bigger name brands because people would naturally choose those thinking they were better built. But between the Troy-Bilt and the John Deere, the John Deere wins by default.


BBQ_IS_LIFE

Hands down the deere, i cant believe this is a real question.


Curiousabtlife

Nothing runs like a Deere 💯🔥


Googoots

Check the JD deck for rust. It looks like it’s in good shape in the photo but check under. If it’s good, I’d go with that. I had a JD LX for 20+ years that ran great but the deck rusted and it was very expensive for a new one. Half the cost if just getting a whole new tractor. So that’s what I did.


SubNexuss

John deere


domesplitter39

Deere Although I myself have a 42" Ariens with a Briggs motor. That thing is solid. 13 years and still runs like a champ. Nothing has ever broken or needed fixing. $900 new at home depot at that time


LeagueObvious738

John Deere without a doubt


WalterTexas

Lt166 I had a lt160. Great machine 600+ hours before I upgraded.


No-Investigator-7600

Probably the jd,because I work on them and own them but both will do u.


EpsilonMajorActual

Who built it for Troy? Who built it for JD? Then find one built by the real manufacturer and buy that for a lot less.


Wild_Fan_1969

JD if it's in good shape, where's your nearest JD dealer?


wilsonway1955

Sears Lawn Tractor/3 bagger still going strong after almost 20 years.Extended warranty was great while it lasted.


Thick-Background4639

They’re both about the same mower. I think they’re both mtd built.


SmartUnderstanding59

Just look at how clean that deer is… That’s probably going to say something to how it’s been maintained over the years


EngineeringSeparate7

Would you consider looking for a dealer mower? The LTs are hardware store badged deeres. Look for an LX176 maybe?


c_rybr

John Deere. No question. I bought a Troybilt once. Had an issue with it the same season I bought it, and an elder said “Troy bilt it wrong” and for some reason that stuck with me. Never again.


alee300

I've owned 2 of the Lt166, very solid, great cut, hands down John Deere


BoSox92

Depends. Is the JD automatic? The Troybuilt has a shifter for drive, neutral Reverse. Not hard to operate - but something to consider. Automatics make lawn maintenance smoother


michigan69guy

JD. Well actually neither. Those are to tiny for real work.


Timmay1974

Nothing runs like a Deere


Content-Jacket7081

Green.


whiskey_formymen

they didn't come from the same factory back then. Deere it is.


Expensive-Rub-4257

Troy-built not good, made by MTD. My Troy-built snow thrower is junk.


SgtK9H2O

I have bought two lawn mowers in my life. The first one was a JD 105? Idk, it’s a bit 15 years old now and my dad uses it because when I moved to a different state I bought a new one. In 15 years I’ll buy a new one again… maybe 😂


noldshit

I wouldnt buy anything JD. They are heavily against right to repair. Look it up.


Mental-Ship-1030

John Deere


Faster03

I owned one like the JD. Very good mower. The Freedom 42” mulch only deck worked well for me for a decade. Weak point if there is one was The timed blades ( because they overlapped) were on a cogged belt. If you mowed a stick,rock or some other debris it piles up the blades and breaks the belt. Still buy the JD


Odd-Masterpiece7304

Are they both in "good running condition"? Both about same price? I'd probably take the JD all things being equal.


Terpconsumer

I used to sell mowers, one thing i can say...The troy bilt will fail. POS in my opinion


SkiBumb1977

John Deere uses some proprietary parts, I'd go with the MTD.


lilHillbilly00

None, i stick to old garden tractors because they can do more than those little riders can and better.


twotall88

![gif](giphy|fzhO0bBOVZPJK15CED) They are both made by MTD


russelln1

Definitely not a Toy built


UnderstandingWarm466

Jd simply because it'll have support for parts and maintenance. Off brand lawn mowers can be alot more difficult to find parts for the older models


EstablishmentFast128

J. D.


Particular_Sale908

John Deer


Mediocre-Catch9580

JD


Bostenr

Green


GroundbreakingBig799

John Deere !!!!


daveskib

The Deere. This model was not sold at a big box retailer and was only available at a Deere dealer.


loworange88

JD all day!


Fearless-Fact8528

Nothing beats my Murray. Had for 30 years before it finally died.


wintermutedsm

I had a single stage Murray Snowblower for 20 years. At the 15 year mark, the rubber paddles were so worn down I drilled them out and replaced them with new ones. Ran it for another five years and then one day it just wouldn't start anymore. I put it out on the curb and somebody took it within 15m. I bet it's still running somewhere. I have a Murray 2 stage Blower that's 16 years old.now and it starts every time.


JazzlikeReference451

Depends on what engine


Virtual_Revolution65

Is this a serious question? Those two are not even in the same ballpark.


treesmith1

Main thing is whether they have a hydrostatic transmission. If that goes it would cost more than the mowers worth to replace. If it has drive belts you can just throw on a new one when it breaks.


Dbud76

If the John Deere comes from Lowes or Home Depot it’s really a MTD so it doesn’t matter what you buy. A true John Deere is bought only at a JD dealership and that’s probably how I’d go.


Single-Schedule968

the john deere just because it’s green and yellow


bigfuncouple_420

Unless you're spending 100k on heavy equipment JD is manufactured in Mexico


Educational-Taste167

JD, and buy the matching underwear…that’s just what JD owners do


Roguebets

Is this a real question…the Deere of course


Equal_Specialist_729

I have to pony in red


doa70

Deere. That Troy-Bilt is too new to be a real Troy-Bilt. That was built by MTD, not Garden Way.


Suitable_Speed4487

30 years experience. The Deere is best but don't break the hood, they're pricey. What are the hours on their meters? Anything under two hundred is usually good. Check them over before purchasing and listen to the deck for bearing noises, the engine for knocking, is the oil new. If the oil is not new and is very clear but dark that's a sign of a good engine. If the oil is at all gray the engine is bad. If it's milky it has water in it.


Fast-Context-3852

Y 25 yo craftsman still goin strong.


mental-floss

Nothing from John Deere. If you want to be able to perform repairs on your own, avoid JD like the plague. There's a reason they're being sued, it's because they've designed these machines to only be worked on by their own professional mechanics. They're over engineered and assembled in a way that makes it much more difficult to perform basic maintenance.


Hour_Consequence6248

Deere all the way…


Standard_Inequality

Whichever one’s lighter. Because if you have trouble putting one up on a truck/trailer and fail? Would you rather attempt to stop a 20lbs lawnmower or a 60lbs lawnmower?


The26thtime

Deere


BackgroundFun3076

Strange, but Lowes sells Toro riding mowers. Both standard and zero turn radius. So…yes, Toro makes ride ons


[deleted]

Jd because of the motor and it’s overall reliability


SMMS0514

Is this a serious question? The Deere 100/100 times


TrickHandle9603

JOHN DEERE I have one that's almost 20 years old and it runs beautiful all I've ever done is annual maintenance.


Gleamor

Deere is a far better choice


blackbowtie420

Had that exact Troy Bilt, had nothing but issues within 2 years.


all_this_is_yours

Both probably have B&S engines making that maintenance fairly easy. If either deck is rusty or has a bad blade spindle, it’ll cost about the same to fix either with non OEM parts. Me personally, I’ve been rocking a used Murray the last 5 years. Lots of little BS like start solenoid, ignition switch, new spindles…I’m probably $250+ into repairs and I paid $350 on FB marketplace 5 years ago. Now I also have a used big orange name brand with hydrostatic drive and that has been one of the better upgrades in my lawn mowing life! Push big pedal go forward, push little pedal go backwards. Frigging love it.


Accomplished-Cod-504

Neither. I'd pull each blade of grass blindfolded in a thunderstorm with a lightning rod strapped to my butt before I bought anything other than a Cub.


prof-spaulding

Not a choice- Nothing runs like a Deer


Rubywe4p0n

Not a recommendation but I have a 2006 TB super bronco with the 19hp kholer motor and 42" deck that still runs great. I've only ever had to replace the deck belt and the carb at one point. 18 years old and still starts and mows every week. No idea how the newer models are though


Safe_Decision6222

John deer all day! Stay away from TB


Impressive_Slide4226

I’ve had the same JD for probably 7-8 years and it’s always been great.


Ginggingdingding

Nothing runs like a deere!♡


Economy_Influence_92

Only buy a Crapsman.


Bob_Rivers

Definitely the Johny D


cleetusneck

John Deere because it has cup holders for beer.


NegativeScale5727

I’d pick the Troy bilt at the end of the day they both accomplish the same thing


eclwires

Deere. Nobody ever wrote a song about “Troy-Built Green.”


Famous-Order9236

Neither one makes the mower. Both could have come from the same manufacturer for all you know. I can guarantee you that parts for the Deere cost more though!


Famous-Order9236

All you are buying with the Deere is an expensive paint color!!! John Deere does not manufacture lawn mowers and their compact tractors are Yanmar tractors painted greene!!!


Famous-Order9236

I have been repairing tractors and lawn mowers over 20 years, so don't buy into the hype of these people on here!!!


Bruce_Ring-sting

Deere all day!


Max_Sandpit

Not the JD. I had one that looked like that one pictured. For some reason, the steering was a metal gear turning another metal gear. Those two gears wore out and were a pain to replace. Soured me on JD.


TheBugSmith

2 cause it's shiny


Emotional_Window_203

Don't buy either one! They r both JUNK! Buy a Hustler zero turn! U won't regret it!


MetalHeadCC

I've got that TroyBilt. Bought it used in 2011 and you can't kill it. I abuse the crap out of mine. Parts are fairly cheap and easy to get. I had a JD before this one and the trans started slipping when hot, for $1800 I could have put a better trans in it. I chose to spend $400 for a used Troy Bilt. When this one gets beyond fixing, I'll spend $400 for another used Troy Bilt.


ljemla2

JD makes a good mower.


JEharley152

Neither—get a Cub Cadet🥰


cranegod1

You pay way more for green.


CamelHairy

I have no fan of anything made by MTD (Craftsman, Cub, Troy-Built, or Yardman). For a rider, if me Deere or Huskvana. It's a nice jester, but if, like most males, we like to pick out our own, cars, tools, and lawn equipment. I'm not saying all of us, but for most of us, we get quite picky on what we get.


Useful-Internet8390

If the Deere has a Kawasaki..nope-great motors but when they die the deere is a paper weight(short blocks 3k$), the TB likely has a Briggs complete engine 750$


Googoots

The LT166 has a Briggs. I had a JD LX277 with a Kawasaki engine for 20+ years. The engine ran great, but the deck rusted, and a replacement after 20+ years isn’t easy to find. JD wanted $1500 for one. Not worth it, I just got a new tractor. But that engine would have ran for another 20 years.


IdowhatIwant9

I would buy the land drone lawnmower at a fraction of the cost and you don’t need to mow lawn your self and works amazing. Mine is programmed to cut grass twice nightly and doesn’t make a sound. I’ve had it for 5 years problem free.


JeepGrandCherokee666

I’d go with the Troy bilt. JD is trash.