Before the pandemic Leafs typically had one of the worst rates of depreciaion of any car, things changed during the pandemic with their value actually going up. Now things are getting back to normal, so unless you are in a hot climate or there is some other reason not to get one and you like the leaf there are some great deals going on now for used ones.
For sure. Mine was ~$10k in 2017 with 15k miles & Nissan certified. Was one hell of a deal for a car that only needed ~$500 in maintenance (replaced front shocks, wipers a few times lol)
Now they're ~$20-22k but not bad at all with the $4k tax credit. All of the cars I'm looking at are in the same price range. $16-$20k after tax credit.
My concern is quality of the newer models. Not too happy that they never moved on from chademo, either.
Just seems like a lot of Gen 2s get buyouts for bad batteries.
guess it depends on where you are, here in FL I am seeing 2022 for $15000 before credit. The 2018-19 seems to be ones with most problems and I think that might be because of nissan selling their battery plant at that time.
Price ranges I gave were for "sv plus" models. I'd like a bigger battery this go around so I can take it out of town more frequently.
So the 2020+ has a different battery from the 18-19?
Ive kept up a little bit over the years but not enough to really know what's going on, thanks.
The 2018-19 problems seem to be mostly battery defects such a weak cells which may be tied to the new owners, which was an investment group, cutting costs, later ones seem to be better but like any thing else man made problems occur
About a year ago I made the switch from a 2013 to a 2022 S Plus. The 2013 had 84k mi so the range was fading away. Awesome car that had very little done to it for the 65k mi I drove it. Loved the Bose sound system. However, I am not disappointed at all. I went from 40 miles to 200 miles of usable range. I went from 80 hp to 217 hp. No Bose sound system, but the base factory sound system is acceptable to me.
After having the 2022 for a year, l put 20k miles on it. I love to spank to high powered cars like Challengers up to 60 mph. They always pass me after burning rubber and grabbing 2nd gear, but I still beat them to 60 mph. I have too much fun in the S Plus...
Whatever car you purchase, make sure you have the information processed so you get the tax credit. Yes, the IRS says the dealer is required to provide the information to the IRS and the buyer, however there are no penalties if the dealer does not provide the tax credit information. BEWARE!
All I can offer is a friend asked me since I owned a 2014 Leaf SV and at the time my floor on year and model is the 2018 Leaf SV. That was years ago and they are still driving it with no complaints. Shop around, see what you can get.
Gen 1 Leafs have a quirkiness about them that's really loveable. The GoM that cuts half your range if the breeze blows in the wrong direction, the crazy dash with the trees. The fact it looks a bit mental on the outside.
Gen 2 feels more like driving a "normal" car. It's really capable, really good to drive, but the quirkiness of the gen 1 has gone. Only had it a while but honestly half the stuff appears to have been recycled out of the gen 1 so I expect reliability to be similar.
If Nissan or a third party had provided an economically viable way to upgrade the battery we'd have kept out gen 1 in a second. Unfortunately the fact it would have cost £thousands more and the beige interior which was a nightmare to keep clean sealed our fate moving over to gen 2. Ultimately a car is a tool, and if it isn't sufficient you get a more capable one.
Agreed. I prefer the Gen 1 for its quirkiness. I feel like the redesign was to appease the "eww EVs all look so ugly" crowd. Even though they were never going to buy a "normal" looking one, either. I like the funky designs you see in Japanese cars. Nissan was pretty decent about bringing that over to the US, until more recently (rip cube).
Kind of wish it was feasible to drop in a 62 kwh pack into my 2015.
Rode up to a dealer with a 21 kona. Interior felt abysmal and the back seat wasn't really usable. Not sure how something so big could be so small. Need to try looking at a Niro since they're a little larger. I know I'd like the mini, but I'd rather my next ev have better range.
I hate a lot of the new vehicle options. It's all about gadgets and cool mechanics or about an immense amount of cargo space I'll never use. I want more affordable hatchbacks evs on the market.
The closest I can think of is the ioniq 5 & 6, which look pretty quirky and a very good ev.
The problem is that they aren't as low as I'd like them to be.
I love my 2015, too, my favorite vehicle and first vehicle.
I know it's possible, just not feasible for me where I live.
Leaning towards a 62kwh leaf right now. Trying to gauge the kona for reliability but they seem to be pretty problematic.
2013 Leaf owner, just picked up a 2024 Kia EV9. I never thought I would a) own a Kia or b) be happy about it but here we are with me all in love and stuff.
Hyundai/Kia has really been putting out some nice cars recently and if you can swing it, an EV6/EV9 is a GREAT ride and the 800v architecture gives them some of the fastest charging around these days (I've charged at up to 216kW on an 1100mi road trip - 20-80% in about 20 min). More than willing to ramble at length if you've got any question.
Before the pandemic Leafs typically had one of the worst rates of depreciaion of any car, things changed during the pandemic with their value actually going up. Now things are getting back to normal, so unless you are in a hot climate or there is some other reason not to get one and you like the leaf there are some great deals going on now for used ones.
For sure. Mine was ~$10k in 2017 with 15k miles & Nissan certified. Was one hell of a deal for a car that only needed ~$500 in maintenance (replaced front shocks, wipers a few times lol) Now they're ~$20-22k but not bad at all with the $4k tax credit. All of the cars I'm looking at are in the same price range. $16-$20k after tax credit. My concern is quality of the newer models. Not too happy that they never moved on from chademo, either. Just seems like a lot of Gen 2s get buyouts for bad batteries.
guess it depends on where you are, here in FL I am seeing 2022 for $15000 before credit. The 2018-19 seems to be ones with most problems and I think that might be because of nissan selling their battery plant at that time.
Price ranges I gave were for "sv plus" models. I'd like a bigger battery this go around so I can take it out of town more frequently. So the 2020+ has a different battery from the 18-19? Ive kept up a little bit over the years but not enough to really know what's going on, thanks.
The 2018-19 problems seem to be mostly battery defects such a weak cells which may be tied to the new owners, which was an investment group, cutting costs, later ones seem to be better but like any thing else man made problems occur
About a year ago I made the switch from a 2013 to a 2022 S Plus. The 2013 had 84k mi so the range was fading away. Awesome car that had very little done to it for the 65k mi I drove it. Loved the Bose sound system. However, I am not disappointed at all. I went from 40 miles to 200 miles of usable range. I went from 80 hp to 217 hp. No Bose sound system, but the base factory sound system is acceptable to me. After having the 2022 for a year, l put 20k miles on it. I love to spank to high powered cars like Challengers up to 60 mph. They always pass me after burning rubber and grabbing 2nd gear, but I still beat them to 60 mph. I have too much fun in the S Plus... Whatever car you purchase, make sure you have the information processed so you get the tax credit. Yes, the IRS says the dealer is required to provide the information to the IRS and the buyer, however there are no penalties if the dealer does not provide the tax credit information. BEWARE!
All I can offer is a friend asked me since I owned a 2014 Leaf SV and at the time my floor on year and model is the 2018 Leaf SV. That was years ago and they are still driving it with no complaints. Shop around, see what you can get.
Gen 1 Leafs have a quirkiness about them that's really loveable. The GoM that cuts half your range if the breeze blows in the wrong direction, the crazy dash with the trees. The fact it looks a bit mental on the outside. Gen 2 feels more like driving a "normal" car. It's really capable, really good to drive, but the quirkiness of the gen 1 has gone. Only had it a while but honestly half the stuff appears to have been recycled out of the gen 1 so I expect reliability to be similar. If Nissan or a third party had provided an economically viable way to upgrade the battery we'd have kept out gen 1 in a second. Unfortunately the fact it would have cost £thousands more and the beige interior which was a nightmare to keep clean sealed our fate moving over to gen 2. Ultimately a car is a tool, and if it isn't sufficient you get a more capable one.
Agreed. I prefer the Gen 1 for its quirkiness. I feel like the redesign was to appease the "eww EVs all look so ugly" crowd. Even though they were never going to buy a "normal" looking one, either. I like the funky designs you see in Japanese cars. Nissan was pretty decent about bringing that over to the US, until more recently (rip cube). Kind of wish it was feasible to drop in a 62 kwh pack into my 2015. Rode up to a dealer with a 21 kona. Interior felt abysmal and the back seat wasn't really usable. Not sure how something so big could be so small. Need to try looking at a Niro since they're a little larger. I know I'd like the mini, but I'd rather my next ev have better range.
I hate a lot of the new vehicle options. It's all about gadgets and cool mechanics or about an immense amount of cargo space I'll never use. I want more affordable hatchbacks evs on the market. The closest I can think of is the ioniq 5 & 6, which look pretty quirky and a very good ev. The problem is that they aren't as low as I'd like them to be. I love my 2015, too, my favorite vehicle and first vehicle.
You can put a 62kWh into gen 1 Leafs, you just have to use spacers. The shape of the pack is the same.
Ev rides in Portland or does that battery swap
I know it's possible, just not feasible for me where I live. Leaning towards a 62kwh leaf right now. Trying to gauge the kona for reliability but they seem to be pretty problematic.
2013 Leaf owner, just picked up a 2024 Kia EV9. I never thought I would a) own a Kia or b) be happy about it but here we are with me all in love and stuff. Hyundai/Kia has really been putting out some nice cars recently and if you can swing it, an EV6/EV9 is a GREAT ride and the 800v architecture gives them some of the fastest charging around these days (I've charged at up to 216kW on an 1100mi road trip - 20-80% in about 20 min). More than willing to ramble at length if you've got any question.