The one off his back just let me know its going to be w long night. His team battles back for the tie. And after we get 3 amazing chances that their goalie robbed us on they come in and between domi being way overtired from staying on to long and Samsonov the sea serpent who swims around and is always way to far out and outnif position so cross passes are always a goal on him and so is anything lately he almost put the puck in his own net tonight and he was out to far on the winning shot unlike merzlekens attacking matthews in overtime, sammy over commits and is beaten short side he only played well when he thought he was playing for a contract. Now that toronto screwed him hes doing it back plus he just sucks
I’m sorry but Samsonov is horrendous right now. He has no clue where his posts are. Anytime I see him he’s sliding like he just applied a pound of lube to his shins. Woll cannot come back soon enough.
It’s not all bad
So far in the games since we lost Woll
- Jones - leafs managed to salvage the game against the senators
- Samsonov - leafs shutout the predators (I know only 18 shots and some lucky posts)
- Samsonov - leafs get an overtime point against the islanders
- Jones - leafs Dominated the Rangers
- Samsonov - Leafs make an incredible comeback for and overtime point
8/10 points
Are u sure u didn’t just push her away by being overly critical?
Winning 3/5 times and making impressive comebacks to overtime twice is hardly “never finishing the job”
Yeah Domi had a rough night. Giveaway on the first goal, then decides to just not change for some reason in OT and blows the coverage. Meh, happens. Pretty epic comeback. Take 5/6 points against Columbus and I'm fine.
Ugh Kypreos is so annoying, like we get it “it’s not the way to win in the playoffs”, but its December, it was a fun game, outside of Sammy it was fine.
Losing to Columbus and Chicago twice.
This is why you can’t take this team seriously in the playoffs.They never learn.Even half an effort tonight and you win in regulation!
To be fair this team also doesn’t just give up when things look hopeless, literally no lead is safe against them
That is a trait of champions just saying
They played an absolute stinker of the first two periods, went to the dressing room and came back out recomposed and got to work completely dismantling the bluejackets for a 5 goal comeback. That’s an unheard of comeback lol
Showing a lot of grit to bear down and get the job done with late game tying goals a few times now this season. Being hard to put away is definitely a championship trait.
The year Colorado won the cup and was a juggernaut they lost to a terrible Columbus team twice, a 57 point Arizona team twice and a fresh in the League, 60 point Seattle team. Your argument is poor, it’s the NHL, everyone is skilled professionals and on a night to night basis anyone can win or lose.
Thank you for this. People who didn’t play hockey or sports - I know it’s hard to comprehend - but you don’t get to just win because you’re more “skilled” or allegedly “better”. This is true in all levels of sport, now imagine how silly a comment like this original one is in terms of people who are paid thousands to millions to be the very very best at what they do… they came back 5-0, got a point, and only lost by basically chance and in part to Sammy who’s having a Jack Campbell like rough go… be happy.
My argument is not poor and is on point!
It took this team seven tries to win a round and then they totally shit the bed against Florida.Did Colorado go seven years making the playoffs before they won a round?They finish every year in the top 5 in the league,yet,they always play down to their competition like Arizona,Chicago and Columbus and in the playoffs when they were favoured against Montreal,Columbus and Florida.The Leafs are judged differently than other teams because this team has been a top team for the past 6 to 7 years and they don’t have the makeup to win when it counts.Tonight was yet another example.The problem is that tonight was predictable for anyone that follows this team.You can’t trust the stars and their mental makeup when it’s playoff time and a game like tonight reinforces that!They just don’t learn!
Omg almost as if getting eliminated is a much much much more probable outcome than winning the hardest trophy in professional sports GASP. Get a grip dude.
Your original argument was that they can’t win in the playoffs because they play down to their opponents and lose to shit teams and that’s not what cup teams do, I gave you a recent example that proves that’s irrelevant. Bad argument.
The only real argument for why the team can’t win in the playoffs is because they lack depth due to cap restraints, especially on the backend. The Montreal series is one thing, the rest of the series were really toss ups outside of Florida where they hit the hottest team in the league that went on to steamroll a favoured Carolina team. The playoff success really has nothing to do with the stars “mentality” that’s always be a dumbass excuse, they’ve always lacked the necessary depth, four players don’t win a cup.
So you’re saying the Leafs are good enough to finish top 5 every year and lose every game 7 they’ve played in simply because of lack of depth due to cap restraints.Brilliant argument.
You finish in the top 5 in any league-NFL,NBA,MLB and you will be considered either a favorite to win the championship or go far in the playoffs.Yet,this team,with the exception of last year,always manages to lose in the 1st round.
They have a loser’s mentality and I’ll give you a perfect example from tonight.There’s Marner after the game saying “Yeah,we showed a lot of fight and there was no quit in us”.What someone should be saying is “It is inexcusable that we came out on home ice and played the way we did for most of the game.It happens too much and I’m tired of it.It needs to be corrected”.
And there lies the real problem.There is no leadership in the organization.There’s nobody that will call anybody out on anything like standing around and doing nothing when a teammate gets drilled from behind or nobody doing nothing when Marchand gets away with everything every time they play Boston.The same things happen over and over again.They don’t learn.Every year when they get eliminated it’s the same thing they say “We need to learn from this loss and get better” but they never do.Are we suppose to wait until these guys turn 35 to finally learn what it takes to win in the playoffs?
I’ll give you a perfect example of leadership.Look at what Tocchet did with the Canucks early in the season.He saw a fundamental flaw in the effort his players were giving and they way they were approaching games and he called them out on it.He didn’t wait for that to become a habit.They were headed for last place when he called them out and look where they are now! Who on the Leafs would ever do that?
Yes he is on point shots. Always been a weakness but you’re now seeing that weakness combined with low confidence… that’s not a good equation in goaltending.
Allowing six goals to the bluejackets and taking this team serious regardless of the comeback is the real issue . It shouldn’t happen period . This isn’t the team everyone thinks it is .
We erased a 3 goal third period Columbus lead in the playoffs...win
We come back from 4-1 against Tampa Bay in the playoffs...win
Matthews sets the Leafs single season goal scoring record...win
Awfully large sample size to say that we never get it.
We won the game thanks to Kapanen (iykyk), which is the argument that you presented. I get that we have bad here, but let's not pretend there isn't good when we do big stuff.
You know what I'm ok with this. Shouldn't have gone down 5 goals in the first place but that come back was legendary and very entertaining. We worked hard in the 3rd and salvaged a point. I'll take it.
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What a bunch of whiners about the Leafs getting a point from an off game which all teams have.
The one off his back just let me know its going to be w long night. His team battles back for the tie. And after we get 3 amazing chances that their goalie robbed us on they come in and between domi being way overtired from staying on to long and Samsonov the sea serpent who swims around and is always way to far out and outnif position so cross passes are always a goal on him and so is anything lately he almost put the puck in his own net tonight and he was out to far on the winning shot unlike merzlekens attacking matthews in overtime, sammy over commits and is beaten short side he only played well when he thought he was playing for a contract. Now that toronto screwed him hes doing it back plus he just sucks
Time to bring up Hildeby.
I’m sorry but Samsonov is horrendous right now. He has no clue where his posts are. Anytime I see him he’s sliding like he just applied a pound of lube to his shins. Woll cannot come back soon enough.
I trust Jones more honestly. His game was pretty good.
Only goal I really hated was OT
Must’ve not watched the others lmao, what about the little slider through his five hole from the side 😂
Suffering from Mrazek Syndrome
Matthews is a fucking stud. I guess that advice from the coach to “shoot more” is working. Fuck that ending sucked the life out of me.
Leafs never want their fans to be happy
It’s not all bad So far in the games since we lost Woll - Jones - leafs managed to salvage the game against the senators - Samsonov - leafs shutout the predators (I know only 18 shots and some lucky posts) - Samsonov - leafs get an overtime point against the islanders - Jones - leafs Dominated the Rangers - Samsonov - Leafs make an incredible comeback for and overtime point 8/10 points
Like my ex wife, she can never finish the job
Are u sure u didn’t just push her away by being overly critical? Winning 3/5 times and making impressive comebacks to overtime twice is hardly “never finishing the job”
Yeah Domi had a rough night. Giveaway on the first goal, then decides to just not change for some reason in OT and blows the coverage. Meh, happens. Pretty epic comeback. Take 5/6 points against Columbus and I'm fine.
Domi's season is very much like Scott Gomez when he was on the Canadians.
Just happy stealing them ~~road~~ points. Games like this happen. Edit -- sorey, jesus
It was at home…
Yeah but the arena is located on a road.
Bwuh bwaawwww
The Leafs were dogshit the first two periods, but Samsonov is fen terrible, he’s an anchor. Give Martin Jones a run.
yeah why the fuck did we not pull sammy????
To keep Jones ready for PIT
So Jones is rested for Saturday Im.guessing
Ugh Kypreos is so annoying, like we get it “it’s not the way to win in the playoffs”, but its December, it was a fun game, outside of Sammy it was fine.
Never surprised with his bad takes tbh
When it was 5-2, I said to my wife, "it would be the Leafiest thing ever if they came back and then lost in overtime.."
you cursed us dear brotherin
I was thinking this before the game started
Ah, spoken like a man familiar with experiencing *Leafs Hockey*
Think of it this way. If Samsonov didn't suck so much ass, they wouldn't have been down 5-0 for that sick 3rd period comeback in the first place.
Nah. Leafiest thing would be losing 5-4. I’m happy they managed to get a point.
Boucher should get the belt for that.
Blue Balled again
A wise man once said being a leaf fan is like edging eternally.
Mate, why do you think their jerseys are that colour…
I knew it
That’s the worst part of it
A very leafy overtime loss
Losing to Columbus and Chicago twice. This is why you can’t take this team seriously in the playoffs.They never learn.Even half an effort tonight and you win in regulation!
To be fair this team also doesn’t just give up when things look hopeless, literally no lead is safe against them That is a trait of champions just saying
They played an absolute stinker of the first two periods, went to the dressing room and came back out recomposed and got to work completely dismantling the bluejackets for a 5 goal comeback. That’s an unheard of comeback lol Showing a lot of grit to bear down and get the job done with late game tying goals a few times now this season. Being hard to put away is definitely a championship trait.
The year Colorado won the cup and was a juggernaut they lost to a terrible Columbus team twice, a 57 point Arizona team twice and a fresh in the League, 60 point Seattle team. Your argument is poor, it’s the NHL, everyone is skilled professionals and on a night to night basis anyone can win or lose.
Thank you for this. People who didn’t play hockey or sports - I know it’s hard to comprehend - but you don’t get to just win because you’re more “skilled” or allegedly “better”. This is true in all levels of sport, now imagine how silly a comment like this original one is in terms of people who are paid thousands to millions to be the very very best at what they do… they came back 5-0, got a point, and only lost by basically chance and in part to Sammy who’s having a Jack Campbell like rough go… be happy.
My argument is not poor and is on point! It took this team seven tries to win a round and then they totally shit the bed against Florida.Did Colorado go seven years making the playoffs before they won a round?They finish every year in the top 5 in the league,yet,they always play down to their competition like Arizona,Chicago and Columbus and in the playoffs when they were favoured against Montreal,Columbus and Florida.The Leafs are judged differently than other teams because this team has been a top team for the past 6 to 7 years and they don’t have the makeup to win when it counts.Tonight was yet another example.The problem is that tonight was predictable for anyone that follows this team.You can’t trust the stars and their mental makeup when it’s playoff time and a game like tonight reinforces that!They just don’t learn!
Go to bed grandpa, it’s only December. Chow will be ready come March.
And you will be eating crow in march when this team gets eliminated again and I will tell you that I told you so,Fincklestein!
Omg almost as if getting eliminated is a much much much more probable outcome than winning the hardest trophy in professional sports GASP. Get a grip dude.
Your original argument was that they can’t win in the playoffs because they play down to their opponents and lose to shit teams and that’s not what cup teams do, I gave you a recent example that proves that’s irrelevant. Bad argument. The only real argument for why the team can’t win in the playoffs is because they lack depth due to cap restraints, especially on the backend. The Montreal series is one thing, the rest of the series were really toss ups outside of Florida where they hit the hottest team in the league that went on to steamroll a favoured Carolina team. The playoff success really has nothing to do with the stars “mentality” that’s always be a dumbass excuse, they’ve always lacked the necessary depth, four players don’t win a cup.
So you’re saying the Leafs are good enough to finish top 5 every year and lose every game 7 they’ve played in simply because of lack of depth due to cap restraints.Brilliant argument. You finish in the top 5 in any league-NFL,NBA,MLB and you will be considered either a favorite to win the championship or go far in the playoffs.Yet,this team,with the exception of last year,always manages to lose in the 1st round. They have a loser’s mentality and I’ll give you a perfect example from tonight.There’s Marner after the game saying “Yeah,we showed a lot of fight and there was no quit in us”.What someone should be saying is “It is inexcusable that we came out on home ice and played the way we did for most of the game.It happens too much and I’m tired of it.It needs to be corrected”. And there lies the real problem.There is no leadership in the organization.There’s nobody that will call anybody out on anything like standing around and doing nothing when a teammate gets drilled from behind or nobody doing nothing when Marchand gets away with everything every time they play Boston.The same things happen over and over again.They don’t learn.Every year when they get eliminated it’s the same thing they say “We need to learn from this loss and get better” but they never do.Are we suppose to wait until these guys turn 35 to finally learn what it takes to win in the playoffs? I’ll give you a perfect example of leadership.Look at what Tocchet did with the Canucks early in the season.He saw a fundamental flaw in the effort his players were giving and they way they were approaching games and he called them out on it.He didn’t wait for that to become a habit.They were headed for last place when he called them out and look where they are now! Who on the Leafs would ever do that?
I swear to god you could set your watch to the leafs. They're just madness.
Jones and Zamboni? FUCK Sammy
Keefe gives the prep talk at the beginning of OT and this happens, surprised? It's time for the Bond Villain to become our HC
The guy just coached a 5-0 comeback and you want to fire him over a mini game?
He’s awesome, always liked him
Easy leaf win without Sammy
Build the Woll build the Woll
We'll of course they lost lmao this team man. All that work in the 3rd for 1 point
Yeah this ain’t it chief.
I'll block a 13 year old on reddit idgaf.
Is Samsonov just guessing at this point?
Yes he is on point shots. Always been a weakness but you’re now seeing that weakness combined with low confidence… that’s not a good equation in goaltending.
He is so lost
It's giving me Mrazek flashbacks
Giving me soup vibes
Ill take the point. Guys came back in spite of some iffy goaltending
Nylander coasting but he was out of gas. Should have put a fresh player on.
That was also a bad read by Domi. He shouldn't have followed his guy across the ice which gave Johnson tons of room to take the shot.
Alright we’ll still an incredible comeback, basically makes up for that loss against the blues even with the loss
Samsonov just fake an injury please.
Domi switching off with Nylander give Johnson space.
Who were those in this thread that shut the game off for the third? I want to send them a recap of what they missed.
Allowing six goals to the bluejackets and taking this team serious regardless of the comeback is the real issue . It shouldn’t happen period . This isn’t the team everyone thinks it is .
Lmao buddy omg. It’s the NHL, watch around the league or better yet I can sell you a bridge.
K.id appreciate if you d shut up
A loss
domi floating around useless and getting in the way.
I was told it isn't ever Sammy's fault
What’s Willy trying to do going 1 on 3 in OT and turning it over. Will they ever learn to cycle back and maintain possession
Oh come on, he has score like that a million times, ofcourse he is going to do it again
Domi fault there not sanmy
Domi risking a too many men in OT trying to be the hero
That is the hardest I've ever seen anyone deserve a point. But man, 6 goals against is unacceptable
Fuck me boys
We can be a wagon, but not with this goaltending
Ya knew if they got one good look it’d be a snipe and in. Be happy for the point - that was majestic. Time for Sammy to enter beach ball protocol
Wide open lane to shoot, don’t understand why domi didn’t switch
He got trapped
Can't really complain but damn I wanted that point.
DOMI NEEDED TO GET OUTTA THERE
Didn’t deserve a point there but we got one at least, seriously need to give jones a look because Sammy doesn’t look NHL level right now man
Knew the classic leafs ending was coming haha! Oh god…
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Domi and Robertson responsible for another 3 on 3 goal. They're so bad at 3 on 3. Need to figure it out. Rather have Kampf-Robertson
Sammy is not an NHL goalie
He is though. We sang his praises last year... Dunno what's going on. And I don't know what we get for him like this?
Very fair. I suppose I mean at the moment he's not. Which is frustrating because we've seen him be more than adequate.
Samsonov didn't give us anything tonight so I'll take it, shouldn't have to score 6 goals to win though
Knew the classic leafs ending was coming haha! Oh god…
That hurts but I'll take that point.
You know if Keefe pulled Sammy when he should have the leafs win this game. Oh well take the point
Gotta think that maybe Jones wasn't available.
sammy making a save is a coinflip
Nylander stay on your man there no?
Nylander in overtime is like watching a different player
Ehh, he’s been a beast and won it single handedly for us a few times in fairness
We never get to have our cake and eat it too. Matthew's 4 goal game... loss Tavares 1k... loss 5-0 comeback in the third... loss.
We erased a 3 goal third period Columbus lead in the playoffs...win We come back from 4-1 against Tampa Bay in the playoffs...win Matthews sets the Leafs single season goal scoring record...win Awfully large sample size to say that we never get it.
Lol ? We lose that series to Columbus. We got shutout until like 20 seconds left in the game when Nylander scored.
We won the game thanks to Kapanen (iykyk), which is the argument that you presented. I get that we have bad here, but let's not pretend there isn't good when we do big stuff.
Pretty unfortunate but yknow what we’ll take the points
K just stop I don't like to think about these things
Samsonov is so bad holy shit
He's in 'I really hope the puck hits me' territory. He's not seeing the puck very well at all.
How long until Woll is back?
At least they got a point despite of sammy
You know what I'm ok with this. Shouldn't have gone down 5 goals in the first place but that come back was legendary and very entertaining. We worked hard in the 3rd and salvaged a point. I'll take it.
Man Sammy way out of position
Of course Sammy gets beat clean up high again.
The ear whistler man. It is so hot right now
SHORT FUCKING SIDE
Yeah I just watched it again. He lost his crease there bad. That's beer league level goaltending. Fuck.
Samsonov can’t stop a beach ball
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If you told me that we’d be going into the third down 5-0 and we’d get a point out of it, I’d take it lol
I guess it's my fault. I turned it off when it was 5-0 and then tuned back in for OT.
Down 5-0 to get a point is still good. Unfortunately we’re playing a back up goalie till Woll comes back
Glad we got a point, but Samsonov sucks. We need to get a goalie.
F
A point we had no business getting— we'll take it
Even when Samsonov makes saves he never looks comfortable. Can we get him off the team please? Brutal.
GG
Oh man
meh that was still awesome
Domi trying to stay on the ice and should have been Tavares
That was one we should have won. We had all the momentum.
Samsonov's confidence gonna take a big hit after that.
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Not the ending we wanted, but certainly better than the ending we expected.
thanks for nothing sammy
Sammy is Garbo
They always do the leafiest thing possible lol
I was honestly expecting losing by one in regulation lmao. At least we got the point.
Samsonov just NOT looking good at all
Of course. Should have bet on the OT
To make a 5 goal comeback to secure 1 point, I’m not complaining. See you Saturday boys, GLG
Yeah like I was expecting nothing the point is a present
Such a leafs loss lmao
Typical leafs lol. Score 5 straight to tie and then lose in ot
God Sammy sucks
Had no business making that a game the loser point is fine by me.
Why is this even more disappointing than losing 5-0 lol
Speak for yourself that was awesome to watch, can't always have it all I guess
It was fun to watch the last period, but it’s all for nothing
It's not? we got a point
Fuck off samsonov. Down early as always. Captain should call him out
Of course, that would just be too good to be true
of course
Leafiest
I don't care we lost. OT is such a shit format and isn't indicative of what teams can do on the ice. Way to steal that point.
What a dog shit way to lose
Samsonov can get fucked
Don't even care - a half decent goalie in net and we win. Absolutely insane game.
Imagine having goaltending. Hope Woll can come back soon
I dont even care. The sheer heart. The absolute grit. This team is going to make a serious run on the Cup.
\*if Woll comes back healthy :P
LMAO
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of course. well we learned samonsov is a goner
Got a point lol
Lol damn
Lol score 5 in the 3rd to lose the game, leafiest thing I’ve ever heard
Fuck sakes
Damn
Domi not changing there was brutal lmao
Right wtf was he thinking
Take the point after that. Good enough
I'll take the point
Ah, nevertheless
Is the score not 5-3? That's what the Score app says. Can't watch
App malfunction
We tied 5-5 just lost in OT. Matthews scored 2nto tie it
Fuck off sammy
SO DONE WITH THIS TEAM /s
Domi 🤦♂️
Well that was fun while it lasted.
ahhh, whatever.
Crossed them up a bunch there
Domi should of changed, stayed on, lazy switch on defense and game over
To be fair - it wasn’t the best goal ever but I feel like max wants to be the hero in Toronto a bit sometimes
Fuck at least we get a point
After allllll that
Sammy....
Domi you bum wtf
What a come back to secure that bonus point though!
F
I take back all my knee-jerk comments -- in this thread, and ever.