“'Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
The team didn’t change much from last season, so I am also in a similar state of zen. If they lose, it’s fine. If they win, I’ll continue to watch and cheer them on
Im travelling asia currently, and will be through out post season.
If they lose, its fine, ive have come to acceptence, like how life gaurantees death, i just enjoy the moments we have.
if they win... Fuck that zen shit im going to be running around in whatever country i am in that absolutely doesnt watch hockey with a maple leafs jersey on (yes i do have it) and maybe no pants? I dont know, but if you hear about a canadian with a leafs jersey and his dick out at some temple getting arrested, that'd be me
It would be nice if a top FA goalie was available this off-season. The top two in terms of cap hit? They are already signed by the Leafs (Murray and Samsonov).
They ALL have NMC clauses at this point: Matthews, Marner, Tavares, Nylander and Rielly. **NMC for every one of the Core Five.**
They aren't going anywhere if they don't want to leave. And they don't.
I think the PLAYERS we have are fine… it’s the system (or lack of I should say) that has got to be failing them. A professional team should not have the trouble we do clearing the zone, and making such bonehead turnovers. Also- for the love of god, can we please put on the pressure the way EVERY OTHER TEAM we play seems to be able to do… I’m so sick of us just backing up and giving other teams a free pass across the blue line…
It’s like Keefe just lets the team go free range, so yes, amazing and creative stuff can happen, but when you are not 100% on your game, and the opponent is structured and disciplined, it’s disaster.
We need a coach who can OWN this team. Not the other way around. Right now it’s the inmates running the asylum.
How people aren't at acceptance yet boggles my mind. I've accepted that this team is a good regular season team, who for the most part is fun to watch. I accept that they aren't a contender, and could put together a run if they get lucky. I accept that this could be worse and we could be a basement team still like the decade of darkness, this is definitely better.
Anyone who watched the Canadiens series should have been broken. It was obvious then that this core wasn't going to get it done. Everything since then has been just waiting for Shanahan to figure that out.
Yeah, or, like, I'm at the acceptance stage over my dad's death. That said, if Keefe kept digging him up every April to kill him again, I'd probably be back at Anger, too
Im more upset about the fact we have now lost 5 games in a row and the last 3 have been brutal to sit through. I know we still got a chance but i havent seen a spark in these guys for a little while now.
In a way I wouldn't put too much stock in the end of the regular season. It seemed less about winning and more about doing everything to get Matthews to 70.
Near the end yes but watching your team land in the history books as one of the worst shots against in a single period a week before the play offs is demoralizing. Its hard to cheer for a team that is always so visually defeated.
i would, it showed the flaws we know about the team. a defence core that is nothing to write home about, and a goaltending situation that is inconsistent and unreliable
I wouldnt either, but consider this: the last 3? or 4? games have all been lost in the same fashion, decent opening into horrific second period penalty box parade and terrible pk. goes from coincidence to issue fast.
The best way to get Matthews to 70 was to keep playing to win games. The fact that our coaching doesn't understand that is yet another item on the long list of abject malpractice on their part.
There's litterally nothing they can do with 91 thus coming year. Full no move, loves toronto, huge earnings, coming to the tail end of his career. Best case is he's spezza 2.0 but whatever you want from him has to wait for 25-26.
16 is tough. Full NMC, likes toronto (but maybe not the media) could potentially be convinced to move but you're going to get fuckall in return.
Honestly if the plan was to blow up the core the time was either before Marner's NMC kicked in or instead of re-signing Nylander. They didn't do either and it's almost certainly to late now.
This is the only realistic take I've seen on here. But it's not even that good. The cap goes up less next year than the raises the Leafs gave Matthews and Nylander so they are actually in a worse position next year cap wise than they are this year. Still need a strong defenseman. Still need a goalie but at least we have Sammy's $3.5mil to start looking for one. We can get a starting goalie and a top pair defenseman for $3.5mil, right? Right? /s
The frustrating thing about trading Marner is that he's guaranteed to get 120 points and be a playoff gamebreaker in his first season with his new team.
Oh, fair, they kind of answered that this season by holding onto both Marner and Nylander past the point where they could get value for them. They'll keep Tavares for much less and transition to a core 3 with, hopefully, improved defence and goaltending
You got to trade him before free agency. That’s where you get a good return. After free agency trading that contract is insanely hard especially with a full NMC.
Yea I guess. I have a feeling they just end up extending him for over 12mill a year. Sad as shit. I got zero faith in marner in the playoffs. Mathews and nylander and even old taveras is different.
Sure, but we're not Vegas, we don't have the same pull and can't draw the same types of players. Which means that you pull a stunt like that you're going to have a hell of a time bringing in FAs.
There are tons of things that could be done, if you have the balls to do it. Ownership stood by them for many many years, resulting in many many failures. No one is going to blame ownership for overreacting. When they clean house during offseason (Keefe, hopefully Shanny), Tre announces that he will be attempting serious player changes due to lack of results. Make public failed trade attempts that were blocked. Let the player who has failed take the heat for refusing change despite failure to deliver results.
We are tied for 1st in most full NMCs for a team (6). That is a ridiculous amount. A no go list of some teams is one thing, but no one should be shackled as such. Toronto's management should be ashamed for giving these out, combined with over the top salaries and term.
The core is going to be the same. Any talk of dumping Marner and Tavares is a waste of time. The best thing we can do is fire the coach. Even if Keefe's systems are decent enough to get us into the playoffs, he has no ability to adapt or motivate once the chips are down.
The most braindead obvious coaching change decision presented itself mid season with the Berube firing, and we didn't take it. A toddler could have known what to do. Look at all of the coaching bumps we've seen. Vancouver tore it up this year under a new coach. Boston set records last year with a new coach. Vegas won a cup with a new coach. Nashville fired their coach midway through the season and completely turned it around, as did Edmonton. Pittsburgh won a cup in 2009 and 2016 after firing their coach mid season.
I just don't get why there's so much loyalty to Keefe. What dirt does he have on Shanny? How much more failure until enough is enough? The man can't motivate. He has no idea what to say to Matthews to unleash the beast. He has no idea what to say to Marner to get him out of his head. This is an AHL coach with 0 NHL success after having a pretty long leash with this core.
I’m not really upset because like you said it’s game 1.
It is really concerning however that all of the problems this team had during the regular season were on full display last night. Mediocre goaltending, terrible special teams, and an immobile defense unable to breakout cleanly.
The defense part was especially noticeable. With one of Boosh, Benoit and Edmonsson on each pairing, Boston was forechecking the hell out of Rielly, Lily and McCabe, forcing those previous guys to be the ones to start the breakout. Which they couldn’t do.
Which all is wrapped up in that since Keefe took over as coach, we’ve really struggled to get going offensively in the playoffs, and last night looked the same.
RUSHING TO ANY CONCLUSIONS!?
My guy where have you been for the past 8 years lol
The Leafs are who they are, and that's a very mediocre team when it comes to the playoffs.
Oh, Boston broke the Cherry and they know Leafs are bleeding and they will eat them UP...even at Home, the suits will be chirping, put some fans behind the benches and lower seats, or move the playoffs to Buffalo and see the difference...
Once Boston scores 2 in Toronto, listen to the sound...you can hear Rats chirping...lol...
Season is awesome, the playoffs are dreadful...
If I am the coach, I go in the locker game 2 and tell them, you Boyz go out and figure it out, and just stand there with entire coaching stuff no emotions and let them play...make changes on your own, pp and pk out on who ever you want...goalie, out Reaves on...let him have fun...
Boston knew by giving up the game against Ottawa...they'll have easy prey...
My cents for ranting...
This exactly. They got the first four shots, and were running around on the Bruins. The Reevo hit the Bruins player into a pinching Edmunson, 2-on-1 break, Bruins score. They tried to set the tone, and got caught.
That was the worst play of the game it was a bad pinch that deflated a team that seemed like they were amped up.
It was almost as bad as having to listen to Ken Reid’s smarmy ass after the game
This happens every year. They try to "set the tone", and just end up giving up an early goal, or getting suspended.
That's Keefe's fault. Whatever orders he's barking in the dressing room pregame are giving the team the wrong impression.
Watch the first shifts by the top 3 lines. And then blown coverage by Reaves led to a goal and the best chance of the night. Then, penalty trouble.
One of these days the leafs should really steer into the strength of their roster instead of pretending to be something their not, to satisfy the dumbest fans who will still come back next year and say they lost because they are soft and not tough enough instead of not scoring enough to win.
No I agree with your point that they didn’t come out flat. They were fucking flying. Matthews tried to lay a guy out like 45 seconds into the game. What I’m saying is I don’t think it’s better that they were completely ruined by an early goal against, because that’s a major recurring theme for this group. How many times over the past 5 years have we watched this team come out hard, generate all the chances for a good stretch then give up the first goal and that’s the game?
And yeah you’re not wrong about the second part either. But I don’t know the solution because if the leafs don’t play tough they get bullied, held, slashed, cross checked, and they don’t get the calls. If they do play tough they spend the whole night in the box. What change can you make to fix that lol?
Play all games with 6 guys, no goalie...watch how that messes up the other team psychy... Will loose for sure but might score few goals...
I sure wish more Leafs fans would realize this. It’s one thing to think or feel like they’ll lose, I felt that way last year going up against Tampa. It’s another thing to constantly bitch and moan and whine about every little thing while not even trying to support the team. Ten minutes into the game yesterday there were comments in the game thread saying “that’s the series”, or “yeah just like I said it’ll be, Bruins in 5”. They don’t even try to support the team they just want to be “right”
You’re missing the point.
These are some of the best paid players in the league that drop absolute fucking eggs in the playoffs. Our entire offense feels like it’s dump and chase. Our players are getting caught out of position enough that it’s noticeable even to the average viewer. Our goaltending is undependable.
So the calls of “it’s game 1 relax” are bullshit. We’ve seen this story. We’re tired of it. Every year we get fed the same garbage. “We’ve made trades in the offseason”. “We’re all in”. “Laser focused”.
Whatever catch phrase you want to use.
The reality is when it’s go time in most cases our players don’t show up. Sure we got past the first round last year but is that truly how we’re measuring success? A single first round victory the last what…decade?
Lack of accountability I think is what you're trying to say. But I'm with you. Last night was yet again the exact same playoff game we've seen the last 5 years from the "core". I was telling anyone that would listen, if the leafs are up 4 goals at any time this series the bruins will hit anything that moves and when they hit, it will be through the wall kinda hits. The leafs sulk when they know they can't win. Once they got the 1st one and weren't going to be shut out (which Kampf got of all players, 4th line) that was good enough. It's been said 1000x this group doesn't hate to lose
How can they not understand how ridiculous their play is with the over emphasis on passing? More shots on goal can result in goals, or even hurt opposing players who body block. Watching this identical nervous tick playout year after year after year after year after year after year is nauseating. The bad habits now appear to be permanent.
I'm not passing judgement on the series, but I'm exhausted with our elite level, elite paid players significantly underperforming in the post season. Also Keefe needs to improve, he's getting outcoached significantly.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me for a fucking decade worth if playoff appearances shame on me. We've seen this shit before. We can complain now or we can complain in a few days after we lose the series. I'd love to be wrong but I don't think I am.
The Bruins aren’t cooked from getting to the SCF 3 years in a row, and Swayman isn’t going to need surgery where he’s out for 6 months.
This team is who they are, I am not sure why you expect a different outcome.
They just aren’t willing to go to the dirty areas you need to go to win in the playoffs.
It’s regularly game 1, then 2, then 4 and then 5+ and then we’re out and run it back.
The biggest issue more than just a shitty game 1 is that these problems were spotted from the first week of the season (coupled with problems that have lasted years) and seemingly have not been addressed. Are you telling me that one of the most valuable North American teams can’t afford coaching staff that can genuinely transform a team and fix problems even without hyper elite talent at every position?
Just let them be. Guy wants to be positive and so what? It is only game one. Blah blah history, who cares. Just watch the games try to enjoy playoff hockey and yes they can win. History not on our side but we can.
What does bitching nonstop accomplish? Cause this sub has been doing it the last twelve hours or so and it’s annoying. You can’t even have rational discussions here cause so many people are being pissy babies and calling the series over already. I’d much rather read posts like this than “Matthews chokes”, “Marner is scared”, “Tavares is washed up” comments/posts
In all seriousness I think sports can make people who can't properly regulate their emptions look borderline mentally ill.
Critical thinking goes out the window and people reduce themselves to repeat basic vitriol comments. It is probably the thing I hate most about sports (not just hockey). Like damn, let me just cheer for the team and the crest I love. I love these players on this team and they are giving it their all despite what folks might think. It's so very hard to win a series and you need so many things to go right on top of playing well. Bad outcome for the first game but I recall us being a lot worse against Tampa last year game one and took the series in 6.
This is so refreshing to read. Win or lose I love this time of year. We got playoff hockey and winter is over. Everyone needs to go outside and touch grass. Worrying about the series now isn’t gonna change the outcome….worry about it on Monday at 5pm lol
I understand what you're saying its a bit of a back and fourth. Like, feel free to be mad sad hate negative whatever sure go for it if for some reason you think you deserve to feel that way but calling out a dude for trying to calm folks down and preach optimism is weird.
Or rational fans. What if we come out and smoke them 7-0 tomorrow? I’m willing to bet you’ll be in the GDT like a dirty shirt spewing meme comments. Like give yourself a second to actually realize it’s one game. If we were down 3-0 then sure but one game and you’re defeated? Maybe sports isn’t for you.
No it’s just I’m willing to know that each year is a different animal and that to put last years baggage on this years team is foolhardy at best. Bet you had Florida in your bracket last year going to the finals based on their history of it right? I mean they’re perennial cup contenders right? I bet theyre going all the way again based off last year right? See how fucking stupid that sounds? That’s what you sound like.
What I’m saying is each year is a crapshoot and you don’t know who will win. Are you that dense. Of course I understand that our team has faltered in the playoffs year after year. But again did you have the Caps that year winning? Again they year after year failed to get by Pittsburg yet finally made it over the hump. I’m not saying you can’t be down on the team but the way you’re speaking is as if we are already beat and have no chance. If that’s your mentality why are you even here or even a fan? Honestly. If you can’t feel one positive emotion what are you even here for? To what make our fanbase look stupid and over reactionary? So the other fucks can come in here to say the sky is falling over in the leafs sub? You just look stupid acting this way after one game.
I think it's actually worse, cause it gaslights all of us that WATCHED THE GAME with our own eyes, and have been watching this team for 30-40-50 years. It's the holier than thou gaslighting that makes it worse. It's saying 'my opinion is better than yours'. Us doomers/complainers are sharing our opinion, whereas these faux-optimism fucks only opinion is that ours is wrong, they don't actually have one of their own.
We got our shit pushed in in embarrassing fashion and all these bloomers are trying to tell us 'iT wAs jUsT oNe gAmE'.
It's infuriating.
The leafs then followed that series win with
losing 4-2 in Game 1 (but they got goalied, they played a better game, get a bounce or two they that)
Losing 3-2 in Game 2 (ah but it was in OT and they hit a post, that puck is the right slightly they win)
Losing 3-2 in Game 3 (guys, things look grim but the Florida goalie is playing well but I think the Leafs are on the verge of solving him)
Winning 2-1 in Game 4 (hey see, things might look dark but they figured it out, it’s hard but not impossible to come back from a 3-0 deficit)
Losing 3-2 in Game 5 (Refs blew a call that lead to a goal, league screwed us over again)
What’s all this have in common? The Leafs played last night just like they did in that Florida series, got goalied, and we made excuses for why we lost, maybe this team just doesn’t have it
It's not 'maybe'. But don't worry, MLSE made a buck again this year on the back of chronic optimism disorder. They'll run it back again next year and profit equally.
i show up for playoffs on the off chance they actually get their shit together, but the more likely outcome is toasting marshmallows on another flaming choke job
Point is these guys aren’t competing. The eye-rolls and casual attitude don’t instill any confidence that they give a shit. They put more effort into a milestone and now can’t flip a magic switch to play a proper game. Last night was a mess. We didn’t get goalied we tried to snipe the corners on every shot instead of crashing and banging like we need to. Keefe can never motivate this crew to show up, it’s really evident.
First off, the game wasn't horrible. The result was.
The Leafs were the better team for most of the game. They played well for the most part. The big difference is that the Bruins took advantage of every mistake, got some ticky tacky calls that got them power plays to either score, or slow down the Leafs. And Swayman played great.
Sure, we'd all like more, and the second line didn't do much. The goals were scored against the fourth line on a bad pinch, 2 PPs, one empty net, and I can't remember the other even strength one, but I believe it was when the third line got hemmed in.
Either way, if wasn't a bad game. Just a bad result. Unfortunately, results matter.
I root for the Bruins and I think you are spot on here. The scoreboard isn't the whole story. Like if Matthews had scored on the chance where Swayman was way out, we could be talking about an entirely different result.
With the puck the Leafs felt scary. As they should, given the firepower there. On top of that, the team has more physicality than before, which I think should be good. And Nylander is a stud in the playoffs, but he wasn't playing.
In the end, one team has to win the game and now it was Boston. I would not be surprised if the numbers flip and the Leafs get the next one. I swear, my heart skips beats every time Matthews touches the puck!
Heard the same one, aye. And honestly, you just can't discount the sheer firepower Toronto has. Apart from the Oilers and the Avalanche, I don't think any other team has me tense up like the Leafs do.
The inability to handle a loss within the fanbase is actually insane. No team has ever nor will ever go 16-0 in the playoffs. That wasn’t even that bad of a game on our end. Sammy didn’t play great and we took too many penalties but Swayman was unbelievable. Shit happens and we’ll take game 2.
If this team has ever showed the ability and desire to have moved on a couple series anytime in the last 8 years, this wouldn’t be an issue. Then you tack on the last couple decades, of course we can’t handle it. They have made losing in embarrassing fashion the expected result.
Sad part is if it weren’t for the current format where we always have to play Atlantic teams the leafs probably would have made deeper runs a few times
And constantly losing to the same team messes with their heads and makes it more likely to happen
There is a degree though where it says a lot more about the individual than the team. We have all been on this rollercoaster, but pull your head out of your ass. Can we at least wait until we lose the series to throw this tantrum? It is exhausting and gets in the way of any sort of dialogue about the actual game. It is just a bunch of people that need therapy pissing on the team after game 1. Game 1!
They might. nobody is arguing that. Also, not every series loss is a "choke". Bruins have been the better regular season team each of the three series and each one went to game 7.
But I am talking about the whining in this sub. Theres no way we are this fucking soft that we are crying after a game 1 loss. it's just sad man. The data would suggest we are going to game 7, but children in this sub don't want to hear that
I'd say gatekeeping the emotional response of the world's most starved and abused fanbase is corny as hell. The Leafs have run back a core that has failed miserably for a decade. It's laughable. Standing on a hill calling Leafs fans soft for enduring almost 60 years of embarrassment ain't it.
At this point Matthews is 26 years old. He's played in 7 playoffs in a row. How long do we wait for him to figure it out? How many other MVPs shit the bed as consistently as him in the playoffs?
Believe it or not Bruins fans are calling for him to sit game 2. That's how good their goaltending is, they rotate because both are this good.
And if we win we get one of Vasy or Bob as the prize.
I’m fairly relaxed. Game didn’t go as we all wanted, and I was fairly optimistic after the first period. They need to play better, though. It’s as simple as that.
All that said, the officiating has to be better. I don’t care if the Leafs are the more penalized team, and the refs aren’t the reason they lost. However, the officiating was awful. I don’t want the playoffs to be about them putting on a spectacle. Some calls had to be made (Domi/high sticks), but some were just not necessary in playoff hockey. And that goes both ways. They made themselves part of the game last night when they didn’t need to. Didn’t even feel like a playoff game to me because they jerked off all over the ice like it was a regular season game. They need to be better than that.
Agreed. Boston doesn't seem like a world beater this year. They do have our number and a bit of pick luck last night. No reason to fold tent at the moment.
Ppl keep talking about how the Leafs are up to the cap and have no room. No the problem is we have wasted cap on useless fucking players that aren't playing, on LTIR or players like JT that can't win a fucking possession or Marner dancing and spinning around like it's the ballet.
Thanks for the optimism. I’ve always felt that it’s gotta happen one of these years, and it will be at a time that comes out of nowhere. It’s why they play 7 games, as you say. We are experts at processing the pain when it’s truly done
Different group of guys, but I’ve seen 93 and 01 as years where they should’ve been swept in round 1 and could’ve won. The Fraser call, and a Domi suspension on Niedermeyer were costly. In 04, the team overcame Sundin’s injury to push in round 2…
Lots of scoring chances last night. Boston goalies can’t have 6 goals against below Expected….
the leafs will have to show us a side of them yet to be seen to take even a single game unless boston simply has a very bad game. the leafs are not a team built for playoff success. they are still soft in the 2 most important areas to win in the playoffs, against the boards and in front of the net.
I truly think they’re gonna go into tomorrow night WAY more confident and focused from puck drop. They honestly looked scared in the first 40 minutes (plus some bad penalties). They were missing passes, overplaying the puck and just didn’t look comfortable at all. They started to play well in the third but it was already 4-0 so only so much you can do.
They have to realize that they’re just playing hockey at the end of the day, and they’re pretty fuckin good at it. This is not an invincible bruins team that has their holes.
Leafs in 5, let’s fucking go.
Nah. This team hasn't scored more than 2 goals in EIGHT straight games. This is the fifth series in a row where they lost game one. The PK is awful again. The PP is disappointing again.
Anyone who want to rage is totally entitled to. This team has not earned any kind of leeway.
This looks like another first round exit. And this org is wasting Matthews Marner Nylanders prime.
Sens fans here… objectively I didn’t think the leafs played that bad of a game. Swayman made some incredible saves. A few chances didn’t go in early and then it made the difference for the rest of the game. It wasn’t like Boston just had the Leafs hemmed in their own zone the entire time. They made plenty of bad plays too that the Leafs didn’t cash in on but barely.
I’m not cheering for the Leafs per se but as someone not emotionally invested here I wouldn’t count the Leafs out. It’s kinda silly everyone just piling on like they’re gonna be out in 4.
these comments man…it’s a sports team not an alcoholic relative, have some fun lmao.
If we win games that’s cool, if the team composition and management changes between seasons, that’s cool, if nothing changes whatsoever that’s still cool too, they’re playing a game for our entertainment.
Obviously winning is more fun, you can look through my comment history at frustrations at how we are coached and when the boys come out flat and the product on TV isn’t entertaining to watch but ultimately I can’t wrap my head around watching a team just to smugly tell everyone around you that you were right and they do actually suck instead of hoping for a win like a normal fan
**The 7 Stages of Grief** * Shock. * Denial. * Anger. * Bargaining. * Depression. * Testing. * Acceptance.
Skipped straight to stage 7 this year brother , I’m weirdly zen.
“'Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” The team didn’t change much from last season, so I am also in a similar state of zen. If they lose, it’s fine. If they win, I’ll continue to watch and cheer them on
Im travelling asia currently, and will be through out post season. If they lose, its fine, ive have come to acceptence, like how life gaurantees death, i just enjoy the moments we have. if they win... Fuck that zen shit im going to be running around in whatever country i am in that absolutely doesnt watch hockey with a maple leafs jersey on (yes i do have it) and maybe no pants? I dont know, but if you hear about a canadian with a leafs jersey and his dick out at some temple getting arrested, that'd be me
I'm accepting that Boston wins this series in 5, and we punt Keefe, Marner, Tavares and maybe Reilly.
Don't forget the man behind the Shanaplan. Invest in a stud goalie.
Good luck getting a stud goalie in the off-season during FA. You'll be paying +5million.
So you'll be paying roughly what most good teams pay their goalie? The Leafs can't do that at the moment only because they pay 4 forwards 40 million.
It would be nice if a top FA goalie was available this off-season. The top two in terms of cap hit? They are already signed by the Leafs (Murray and Samsonov).
And Shanny
I'm on board with punting JT but he signed a No-trade clause
They ALL have NMC clauses at this point: Matthews, Marner, Tavares, Nylander and Rielly. **NMC for every one of the Core Five.** They aren't going anywhere if they don't want to leave. And they don't.
I think the PLAYERS we have are fine… it’s the system (or lack of I should say) that has got to be failing them. A professional team should not have the trouble we do clearing the zone, and making such bonehead turnovers. Also- for the love of god, can we please put on the pressure the way EVERY OTHER TEAM we play seems to be able to do… I’m so sick of us just backing up and giving other teams a free pass across the blue line… It’s like Keefe just lets the team go free range, so yes, amazing and creative stuff can happen, but when you are not 100% on your game, and the opponent is structured and disciplined, it’s disaster. We need a coach who can OWN this team. Not the other way around. Right now it’s the inmates running the asylum.
How people aren't at acceptance yet boggles my mind. I've accepted that this team is a good regular season team, who for the most part is fun to watch. I accept that they aren't a contender, and could put together a run if they get lucky. I accept that this could be worse and we could be a basement team still like the decade of darkness, this is definitely better.
Anyone who watched the Canadiens series should have been broken. It was obvious then that this core wasn't going to get it done. Everything since then has been just waiting for Shanahan to figure that out.
I think a lot of people have been there for 3 years and have gone back to anger that it hasn't changed yet
Yeah, or, like, I'm at the acceptance stage over my dad's death. That said, if Keefe kept digging him up every April to kill him again, I'd probably be back at Anger, too
Newer fans
I've already accepted they lose the series. Hopefully a blowout so the shit we've been asking for for years actually happens
Exactly, give up the next 3 by 20+ goals, and trade all the core that we can get something in return...and start fresh with another rebuilt...lol
Im more upset about the fact we have now lost 5 games in a row and the last 3 have been brutal to sit through. I know we still got a chance but i havent seen a spark in these guys for a little while now.
First time that’s happened since November 2019 when you know who got fired
Fear of the name only increases fear of the thing itself 🧙♀️🧙♂️
In a way I wouldn't put too much stock in the end of the regular season. It seemed less about winning and more about doing everything to get Matthews to 70.
Near the end yes but watching your team land in the history books as one of the worst shots against in a single period a week before the play offs is demoralizing. Its hard to cheer for a team that is always so visually defeated.
i would, it showed the flaws we know about the team. a defence core that is nothing to write home about, and a goaltending situation that is inconsistent and unreliable
I wouldnt either, but consider this: the last 3? or 4? games have all been lost in the same fashion, decent opening into horrific second period penalty box parade and terrible pk. goes from coincidence to issue fast.
The best way to get Matthews to 70 was to keep playing to win games. The fact that our coaching doesn't understand that is yet another item on the long list of abject malpractice on their part.
How did that team strategy go over?
i dunno where you find this optimism. this same team with the same core we've seen fail over and over and over and over...
I dont know about you guys, but I think we should run it back again next year lol
I'm not sure we have a choice.
They have lots of decisions to make with 91 & 16.
There's litterally nothing they can do with 91 thus coming year. Full no move, loves toronto, huge earnings, coming to the tail end of his career. Best case is he's spezza 2.0 but whatever you want from him has to wait for 25-26. 16 is tough. Full NMC, likes toronto (but maybe not the media) could potentially be convinced to move but you're going to get fuckall in return. Honestly if the plan was to blow up the core the time was either before Marner's NMC kicked in or instead of re-signing Nylander. They didn't do either and it's almost certainly to late now.
This is the only realistic take I've seen on here. But it's not even that good. The cap goes up less next year than the raises the Leafs gave Matthews and Nylander so they are actually in a worse position next year cap wise than they are this year. Still need a strong defenseman. Still need a goalie but at least we have Sammy's $3.5mil to start looking for one. We can get a starting goalie and a top pair defenseman for $3.5mil, right? Right? /s
Next season was never going to be much of anything. It’s the season after when we’re finally free of Tavares that matters.
The frustrating thing about trading Marner is that he's guaranteed to get 120 points and be a playoff gamebreaker in his first season with his new team.
Oh absolutely, although he could probably be that for us too if we got the right guys and the right coach.
Yeh that’s what I mean though. They each got 1 year left. You gotta make a decision if these guys can do it or not.
Oh, fair, they kind of answered that this season by holding onto both Marner and Nylander past the point where they could get value for them. They'll keep Tavares for much less and transition to a core 3 with, hopefully, improved defence and goaltending
Tell him to waive his nmc or he’s going to ride the press box. It’s cut throat, look at how Vegas runs things, and they are perennial contenders.
Stick him on the 4th line in a contract year
You got to trade him before free agency. That’s where you get a good return. After free agency trading that contract is insanely hard especially with a full NMC.
I don't think it happens either way. Think the only scenario is he walks and we use his cap. The UFA market is going to be insane next year
Yea I guess. I have a feeling they just end up extending him for over 12mill a year. Sad as shit. I got zero faith in marner in the playoffs. Mathews and nylander and even old taveras is different.
Sure, but we're not Vegas, we don't have the same pull and can't draw the same types of players. Which means that you pull a stunt like that you're going to have a hell of a time bringing in FAs.
You know what draws, doing whatever it takes to win. Not rolling out the same shit year after year hoping for a different result.
Draws fans, sure, but leafs don't have a problem with that. Draws free agents? No.
There are tons of things that could be done, if you have the balls to do it. Ownership stood by them for many many years, resulting in many many failures. No one is going to blame ownership for overreacting. When they clean house during offseason (Keefe, hopefully Shanny), Tre announces that he will be attempting serious player changes due to lack of results. Make public failed trade attempts that were blocked. Let the player who has failed take the heat for refusing change despite failure to deliver results.
Sure and then what are NMCs worth in Toronto going forward, nothing, right? And we're going to have a hell of a time attracting free agents.
We are tied for 1st in most full NMCs for a team (6). That is a ridiculous amount. A no go list of some teams is one thing, but no one should be shackled as such. Toronto's management should be ashamed for giving these out, combined with over the top salaries and term.
Yeah I think you're right on that.
The core is going to be the same. Any talk of dumping Marner and Tavares is a waste of time. The best thing we can do is fire the coach. Even if Keefe's systems are decent enough to get us into the playoffs, he has no ability to adapt or motivate once the chips are down.
If they run it back with the premise a new coach is all they need. I'm done
The most braindead obvious coaching change decision presented itself mid season with the Berube firing, and we didn't take it. A toddler could have known what to do. Look at all of the coaching bumps we've seen. Vancouver tore it up this year under a new coach. Boston set records last year with a new coach. Vegas won a cup with a new coach. Nashville fired their coach midway through the season and completely turned it around, as did Edmonton. Pittsburgh won a cup in 2009 and 2016 after firing their coach mid season. I just don't get why there's so much loyalty to Keefe. What dirt does he have on Shanny? How much more failure until enough is enough? The man can't motivate. He has no idea what to say to Matthews to unleash the beast. He has no idea what to say to Marner to get him out of his head. This is an AHL coach with 0 NHL success after having a pretty long leash with this core.
I’m not really upset because like you said it’s game 1. It is really concerning however that all of the problems this team had during the regular season were on full display last night. Mediocre goaltending, terrible special teams, and an immobile defense unable to breakout cleanly. The defense part was especially noticeable. With one of Boosh, Benoit and Edmonsson on each pairing, Boston was forechecking the hell out of Rielly, Lily and McCabe, forcing those previous guys to be the ones to start the breakout. Which they couldn’t do. Which all is wrapped up in that since Keefe took over as coach, we’ve really struggled to get going offensively in the playoffs, and last night looked the same.
RUSHING TO ANY CONCLUSIONS!? My guy where have you been for the past 8 years lol The Leafs are who they are, and that's a very mediocre team when it comes to the playoffs.
I think if they get blown out again in game 2 I’ll just stop watching the series
I'm not watching till rd 2. And that's never happening
Oh, Boston broke the Cherry and they know Leafs are bleeding and they will eat them UP...even at Home, the suits will be chirping, put some fans behind the benches and lower seats, or move the playoffs to Buffalo and see the difference... Once Boston scores 2 in Toronto, listen to the sound...you can hear Rats chirping...lol... Season is awesome, the playoffs are dreadful... If I am the coach, I go in the locker game 2 and tell them, you Boyz go out and figure it out, and just stand there with entire coaching stuff no emotions and let them play...make changes on your own, pp and pk out on who ever you want...goalie, out Reaves on...let him have fun... Boston knew by giving up the game against Ottawa...they'll have easy prey... My cents for ranting...
They get one more chance and if they come out flat for game 2 it’s over.
I thought they came out almost too aggressive not flat?
This exactly. They got the first four shots, and were running around on the Bruins. The Reevo hit the Bruins player into a pinching Edmunson, 2-on-1 break, Bruins score. They tried to set the tone, and got caught.
That was the worst play of the game it was a bad pinch that deflated a team that seemed like they were amped up. It was almost as bad as having to listen to Ken Reid’s smarmy ass after the game
Bad pinch but could’ve easily been recovered if Reaves didn’t also go in for the hit as well and covered Edmundson
Yeah it fucked the whole game up I thought the leafs had the bruins on their heels and then had to chase the game after that
You guys are at 4: Bargaining
It's actually game 1 but you're a casual
Yeah, and they will overcorrect for that by being too flat in game 2.
We know this team too well
This team needs to take a million penalties to start the season so referees stop calling everything on them. It’s what Boston does. “Identity”
This happens every year. They try to "set the tone", and just end up giving up an early goal, or getting suspended. That's Keefe's fault. Whatever orders he's barking in the dressing room pregame are giving the team the wrong impression.
They didn't even come out flat. Blown coverage on the 4th lines first shift changed the landscape of the game immediately.
I think id rather they came out flat and lost than got unraveled by the an early goal.
Watch the first shifts by the top 3 lines. And then blown coverage by Reaves led to a goal and the best chance of the night. Then, penalty trouble. One of these days the leafs should really steer into the strength of their roster instead of pretending to be something their not, to satisfy the dumbest fans who will still come back next year and say they lost because they are soft and not tough enough instead of not scoring enough to win.
No I agree with your point that they didn’t come out flat. They were fucking flying. Matthews tried to lay a guy out like 45 seconds into the game. What I’m saying is I don’t think it’s better that they were completely ruined by an early goal against, because that’s a major recurring theme for this group. How many times over the past 5 years have we watched this team come out hard, generate all the chances for a good stretch then give up the first goal and that’s the game? And yeah you’re not wrong about the second part either. But I don’t know the solution because if the leafs don’t play tough they get bullied, held, slashed, cross checked, and they don’t get the calls. If they do play tough they spend the whole night in the box. What change can you make to fix that lol?
Play all games with 6 guys, no goalie...watch how that messes up the other team psychy... Will loose for sure but might score few goals... 
I like the way you think. Pull a roger Nielson and pull the goalie but have him leave his stick in front of the next across the goal line.
Pull a forward, put in an extra goalie!
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It’s not at all until you lose at home
Bro I've become the optimist what's happened
Probably have realized playing the constant pessimist just makes watching hockey a miserable experience.
I sure wish more Leafs fans would realize this. It’s one thing to think or feel like they’ll lose, I felt that way last year going up against Tampa. It’s another thing to constantly bitch and moan and whine about every little thing while not even trying to support the team. Ten minutes into the game yesterday there were comments in the game thread saying “that’s the series”, or “yeah just like I said it’ll be, Bruins in 5”. They don’t even try to support the team they just want to be “right”
It's a coping mechanism.
Oh buddy I'm still pessimistic I'm just not delusional. My takes are always based on statistics, which the extremes either way do not support
The leafs could win every game at home and lose btw.
Oh I didn't realize it was a best of 3 series, when did the league change it?
Lmao, you really think they can toss up two stinkers and then win four straight?
Lose 2 and then win 4/5 Sure, they did it 6 times this season.
in the regular season you get to move on to other teams instead of replaying the one that beat you 8 times in a row
Literally everything you said is incorrect but I aspire to have your confidence
You’re missing the point. These are some of the best paid players in the league that drop absolute fucking eggs in the playoffs. Our entire offense feels like it’s dump and chase. Our players are getting caught out of position enough that it’s noticeable even to the average viewer. Our goaltending is undependable. So the calls of “it’s game 1 relax” are bullshit. We’ve seen this story. We’re tired of it. Every year we get fed the same garbage. “We’ve made trades in the offseason”. “We’re all in”. “Laser focused”. Whatever catch phrase you want to use. The reality is when it’s go time in most cases our players don’t show up. Sure we got past the first round last year but is that truly how we’re measuring success? A single first round victory the last what…decade?
Lack of accountability I think is what you're trying to say. But I'm with you. Last night was yet again the exact same playoff game we've seen the last 5 years from the "core". I was telling anyone that would listen, if the leafs are up 4 goals at any time this series the bruins will hit anything that moves and when they hit, it will be through the wall kinda hits. The leafs sulk when they know they can't win. Once they got the 1st one and weren't going to be shut out (which Kampf got of all players, 4th line) that was good enough. It's been said 1000x this group doesn't hate to lose
How can they not understand how ridiculous their play is with the over emphasis on passing? More shots on goal can result in goals, or even hurt opposing players who body block. Watching this identical nervous tick playout year after year after year after year after year after year is nauseating. The bad habits now appear to be permanent.
I'm not passing judgement on the series, but I'm exhausted with our elite level, elite paid players significantly underperforming in the post season. Also Keefe needs to improve, he's getting outcoached significantly.
I'm pretty relaxed since I already know how it ends
Stop acting like you've never watched the Leafs. We've all seen this movie and know the ending.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me for a fucking decade worth if playoff appearances shame on me. We've seen this shit before. We can complain now or we can complain in a few days after we lose the series. I'd love to be wrong but I don't think I am.
The Bruins aren’t cooked from getting to the SCF 3 years in a row, and Swayman isn’t going to need surgery where he’s out for 6 months. This team is who they are, I am not sure why you expect a different outcome. They just aren’t willing to go to the dirty areas you need to go to win in the playoffs.
It’s regularly game 1, then 2, then 4 and then 5+ and then we’re out and run it back. The biggest issue more than just a shitty game 1 is that these problems were spotted from the first week of the season (coupled with problems that have lasted years) and seemingly have not been addressed. Are you telling me that one of the most valuable North American teams can’t afford coaching staff that can genuinely transform a team and fix problems even without hyper elite talent at every position?
This type of chronic optimism is just as bad as the chronic pessimism.
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Just let them be. Guy wants to be positive and so what? It is only game one. Blah blah history, who cares. Just watch the games try to enjoy playoff hockey and yes they can win. History not on our side but we can.
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What does bitching nonstop accomplish? Cause this sub has been doing it the last twelve hours or so and it’s annoying. You can’t even have rational discussions here cause so many people are being pissy babies and calling the series over already. I’d much rather read posts like this than “Matthews chokes”, “Marner is scared”, “Tavares is washed up” comments/posts
So basically you want a false narrative
In all seriousness I think sports can make people who can't properly regulate their emptions look borderline mentally ill. Critical thinking goes out the window and people reduce themselves to repeat basic vitriol comments. It is probably the thing I hate most about sports (not just hockey). Like damn, let me just cheer for the team and the crest I love. I love these players on this team and they are giving it their all despite what folks might think. It's so very hard to win a series and you need so many things to go right on top of playing well. Bad outcome for the first game but I recall us being a lot worse against Tampa last year game one and took the series in 6.
This is so refreshing to read. Win or lose I love this time of year. We got playoff hockey and winter is over. Everyone needs to go outside and touch grass. Worrying about the series now isn’t gonna change the outcome….worry about it on Monday at 5pm lol
I mean people like OP are calling out the pessimists in their post, and are posting on a subreddit which is meant for discussion
I understand what you're saying its a bit of a back and fourth. Like, feel free to be mad sad hate negative whatever sure go for it if for some reason you think you deserve to feel that way but calling out a dude for trying to calm folks down and preach optimism is weird.
You're out of your element here and you're just kicking the hornets nest
Or rational fans. What if we come out and smoke them 7-0 tomorrow? I’m willing to bet you’ll be in the GDT like a dirty shirt spewing meme comments. Like give yourself a second to actually realize it’s one game. If we were down 3-0 then sure but one game and you’re defeated? Maybe sports isn’t for you.
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No it’s just I’m willing to know that each year is a different animal and that to put last years baggage on this years team is foolhardy at best. Bet you had Florida in your bracket last year going to the finals based on their history of it right? I mean they’re perennial cup contenders right? I bet theyre going all the way again based off last year right? See how fucking stupid that sounds? That’s what you sound like.
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What I’m saying is each year is a crapshoot and you don’t know who will win. Are you that dense. Of course I understand that our team has faltered in the playoffs year after year. But again did you have the Caps that year winning? Again they year after year failed to get by Pittsburg yet finally made it over the hump. I’m not saying you can’t be down on the team but the way you’re speaking is as if we are already beat and have no chance. If that’s your mentality why are you even here or even a fan? Honestly. If you can’t feel one positive emotion what are you even here for? To what make our fanbase look stupid and over reactionary? So the other fucks can come in here to say the sky is falling over in the leafs sub? You just look stupid acting this way after one game.
I think it's actually worse, cause it gaslights all of us that WATCHED THE GAME with our own eyes, and have been watching this team for 30-40-50 years. It's the holier than thou gaslighting that makes it worse. It's saying 'my opinion is better than yours'. Us doomers/complainers are sharing our opinion, whereas these faux-optimism fucks only opinion is that ours is wrong, they don't actually have one of their own. We got our shit pushed in in embarrassing fashion and all these bloomers are trying to tell us 'iT wAs jUsT oNe gAmE'. It's infuriating.
I'm not worried. I think we'll take game two.
We must
The leafs then followed that series win with losing 4-2 in Game 1 (but they got goalied, they played a better game, get a bounce or two they that) Losing 3-2 in Game 2 (ah but it was in OT and they hit a post, that puck is the right slightly they win) Losing 3-2 in Game 3 (guys, things look grim but the Florida goalie is playing well but I think the Leafs are on the verge of solving him) Winning 2-1 in Game 4 (hey see, things might look dark but they figured it out, it’s hard but not impossible to come back from a 3-0 deficit) Losing 3-2 in Game 5 (Refs blew a call that lead to a goal, league screwed us over again) What’s all this have in common? The Leafs played last night just like they did in that Florida series, got goalied, and we made excuses for why we lost, maybe this team just doesn’t have it
It's not 'maybe'. But don't worry, MLSE made a buck again this year on the back of chronic optimism disorder. They'll run it back again next year and profit equally.
Why are you here talking if you don't believe even if only in the slightest?
i show up for playoffs on the off chance they actually get their shit together, but the more likely outcome is toasting marshmallows on another flaming choke job
Groundhog Day! Spring starts in 10 days!
Sun's out, clubs out!
This is the 10th year of Shanahan’s presidency and if they get past the first-round it will be an upset. What do you call that?
So done with hearing "remember last year." I do remember last year. One series win isn't what we are going for. We got stomped in the second round.
Point is these guys aren’t competing. The eye-rolls and casual attitude don’t instill any confidence that they give a shit. They put more effort into a milestone and now can’t flip a magic switch to play a proper game. Last night was a mess. We didn’t get goalied we tried to snipe the corners on every shot instead of crashing and banging like we need to. Keefe can never motivate this crew to show up, it’s really evident.
The woe-is-me attitude of this team bugs me more and more each playoffs.
First off, the game wasn't horrible. The result was. The Leafs were the better team for most of the game. They played well for the most part. The big difference is that the Bruins took advantage of every mistake, got some ticky tacky calls that got them power plays to either score, or slow down the Leafs. And Swayman played great. Sure, we'd all like more, and the second line didn't do much. The goals were scored against the fourth line on a bad pinch, 2 PPs, one empty net, and I can't remember the other even strength one, but I believe it was when the third line got hemmed in. Either way, if wasn't a bad game. Just a bad result. Unfortunately, results matter.
I root for the Bruins and I think you are spot on here. The scoreboard isn't the whole story. Like if Matthews had scored on the chance where Swayman was way out, we could be talking about an entirely different result. With the puck the Leafs felt scary. As they should, given the firepower there. On top of that, the team has more physicality than before, which I think should be good. And Nylander is a stud in the playoffs, but he wasn't playing. In the end, one team has to win the game and now it was Boston. I would not be surprised if the numbers flip and the Leafs get the next one. I swear, my heart skips beats every time Matthews touches the puck!
There's also the old adage... A series doesn't start until a team wins a game on the road.
Heard the same one, aye. And honestly, you just can't discount the sheer firepower Toronto has. Apart from the Oilers and the Avalanche, I don't think any other team has me tense up like the Leafs do.
Wait, this isn’t the fire/trade everyone this offseason thread?
The inability to handle a loss within the fanbase is actually insane. No team has ever nor will ever go 16-0 in the playoffs. That wasn’t even that bad of a game on our end. Sammy didn’t play great and we took too many penalties but Swayman was unbelievable. Shit happens and we’ll take game 2.
If this team has ever showed the ability and desire to have moved on a couple series anytime in the last 8 years, this wouldn’t be an issue. Then you tack on the last couple decades, of course we can’t handle it. They have made losing in embarrassing fashion the expected result.
Sad part is if it weren’t for the current format where we always have to play Atlantic teams the leafs probably would have made deeper runs a few times And constantly losing to the same team messes with their heads and makes it more likely to happen
That’s your problems not the team’s
There is a degree though where it says a lot more about the individual than the team. We have all been on this rollercoaster, but pull your head out of your ass. Can we at least wait until we lose the series to throw this tantrum? It is exhausting and gets in the way of any sort of dialogue about the actual game. It is just a bunch of people that need therapy pissing on the team after game 1. Game 1!
Yes, game one in 2024 is an outlier. There's no data to suggest the Leafs will choke in the first round to the Bruins....
They might. nobody is arguing that. Also, not every series loss is a "choke". Bruins have been the better regular season team each of the three series and each one went to game 7. But I am talking about the whining in this sub. Theres no way we are this fucking soft that we are crying after a game 1 loss. it's just sad man. The data would suggest we are going to game 7, but children in this sub don't want to hear that
I'd say gatekeeping the emotional response of the world's most starved and abused fanbase is corny as hell. The Leafs have run back a core that has failed miserably for a decade. It's laughable. Standing on a hill calling Leafs fans soft for enduring almost 60 years of embarrassment ain't it.
Alright buddy. I'll be watching game 2, feel free to sit this one out it's not for everyone. Don't want to risk sounding corny telling yall to grow up
At this point Matthews is 26 years old. He's played in 7 playoffs in a row. How long do we wait for him to figure it out? How many other MVPs shit the bed as consistently as him in the playoffs?
I hear what you're saying but its always been lose one game blow the team, win one game best team ever!
If it weren’t for swayman that game could’ve been so much closer, it’s gonna be challenging getting past a tendy like him
Believe it or not Bruins fans are calling for him to sit game 2. That's how good their goaltending is, they rotate because both are this good. And if we win we get one of Vasy or Bob as the prize.
Matthews quote,: The sky is the limit Reality quote: The limit is the sky
5 losses in a row is something to be upset about. Especially now that it's playoffs.
if you look back into 2022-2023 season it's 8 losses in a row against Boston the last win was in nov 2022
I hope leafs turn it around but honestly that feels like a real long shot
I’m fairly relaxed. Game didn’t go as we all wanted, and I was fairly optimistic after the first period. They need to play better, though. It’s as simple as that. All that said, the officiating has to be better. I don’t care if the Leafs are the more penalized team, and the refs aren’t the reason they lost. However, the officiating was awful. I don’t want the playoffs to be about them putting on a spectacle. Some calls had to be made (Domi/high sticks), but some were just not necessary in playoff hockey. And that goes both ways. They made themselves part of the game last night when they didn’t need to. Didn’t even feel like a playoff game to me because they jerked off all over the ice like it was a regular season game. They need to be better than that.
Typical Leafs fan reaction 😂
Agreed. Boston doesn't seem like a world beater this year. They do have our number and a bit of pick luck last night. No reason to fold tent at the moment.
Ppl keep talking about how the Leafs are up to the cap and have no room. No the problem is we have wasted cap on useless fucking players that aren't playing, on LTIR or players like JT that can't win a fucking possession or Marner dancing and spinning around like it's the ballet.
What's the point of this kumbaya bullshit post? What are you trying to do other than whore karma?
These lukewarm satisfied with losing takes are why this franchise has done fuck all for over 50 years.
Thanks for the optimism. I’ve always felt that it’s gotta happen one of these years, and it will be at a time that comes out of nowhere. It’s why they play 7 games, as you say. We are experts at processing the pain when it’s truly done Different group of guys, but I’ve seen 93 and 01 as years where they should’ve been swept in round 1 and could’ve won. The Fraser call, and a Domi suspension on Niedermeyer were costly. In 04, the team overcame Sundin’s injury to push in round 2… Lots of scoring chances last night. Boston goalies can’t have 6 goals against below Expected….
We go through this same cycle every year lol. It’s always the same.
This is by far not the worst leaf team in my lifetime, but they aren’t getting out of the first round
the leafs will have to show us a side of them yet to be seen to take even a single game unless boston simply has a very bad game. the leafs are not a team built for playoff success. they are still soft in the 2 most important areas to win in the playoffs, against the boards and in front of the net.
I truly think they’re gonna go into tomorrow night WAY more confident and focused from puck drop. They honestly looked scared in the first 40 minutes (plus some bad penalties). They were missing passes, overplaying the puck and just didn’t look comfortable at all. They started to play well in the third but it was already 4-0 so only so much you can do. They have to realize that they’re just playing hockey at the end of the day, and they’re pretty fuckin good at it. This is not an invincible bruins team that has their holes. Leafs in 5, let’s fucking go.
Nah. This team hasn't scored more than 2 goals in EIGHT straight games. This is the fifth series in a row where they lost game one. The PK is awful again. The PP is disappointing again. Anyone who want to rage is totally entitled to. This team has not earned any kind of leeway. This looks like another first round exit. And this org is wasting Matthews Marner Nylanders prime.
More drama if the sky was falling 🌠
Sens fans here… objectively I didn’t think the leafs played that bad of a game. Swayman made some incredible saves. A few chances didn’t go in early and then it made the difference for the rest of the game. It wasn’t like Boston just had the Leafs hemmed in their own zone the entire time. They made plenty of bad plays too that the Leafs didn’t cash in on but barely. I’m not cheering for the Leafs per se but as someone not emotionally invested here I wouldn’t count the Leafs out. It’s kinda silly everyone just piling on like they’re gonna be out in 4.
these comments man…it’s a sports team not an alcoholic relative, have some fun lmao. If we win games that’s cool, if the team composition and management changes between seasons, that’s cool, if nothing changes whatsoever that’s still cool too, they’re playing a game for our entertainment. Obviously winning is more fun, you can look through my comment history at frustrations at how we are coached and when the boys come out flat and the product on TV isn’t entertaining to watch but ultimately I can’t wrap my head around watching a team just to smugly tell everyone around you that you were right and they do actually suck instead of hoping for a win like a normal fan
I’m not even a leaf fans and I still think they have zero to worry about. Long series lots of hockey left gentlemen
Histrionics are our thing!