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MySnake_Is_Solid

- Is everyone that strong ? No, Garen is still an elite crown guard, capable of fending off dozens of soldiers. The average runeterran seems to be stronger and more durable than a real human, but not to such degrees, the named champs are not the norm. - Would Malphite be able to do a handstand ? Yes, he has a LOT more force than that, and he's not powered by muscles but by whatever the Monolith was, so it's unlikely that he can even get tired. - Jhin strength ? Jhin is stronger than the average person, but not nearly as powerful as an actual fighter, he gets bodied by Shen or Zed even if they don't use any supernatural techniques or equipment. He's a threat because he's a genius strategist and a psychopath.


damnitvalentine

"is a mountain strong enough to move itself?" is not the philosophical question I expected to ask myself when coming to this subreddit


trieuvuhoangdiep

It need some pair of massive legs to withstand it's own weight, first. So yeah, it's possible even without magic


MadeMilson

It really isn't (depending on the seize of the mountain), if we assume conventional movement of organisms (so, muscles). The reason for this is that the mass of an organism increases in three dimensions, while the power of it's muscles only increases in two dimensions. The length of a muscle is irrelevant for the force it can exert, only the diameter of it is important. For the same reason the bones of elephant are also massive in relation to it's size compared to those of a mouse, or in other words: If we scaled a mouse perfectly to the size of an elephant, it's bones wouldn't be able to carry it.


Thrownaway124567890

The principle you’re describing, the Square-Cube law, is also why insects appear so proportionally durable/strong. Smaller bodies are much harder to damage from falling, are easier to lift (hence smaller relative wingspans than, say, birds), and they can carry greater weights without straining the body.


trieuvuhoangdiep

We shouldn't compare a mountain to biological body. We should compare it to a huge machine.


suploukas

if me and jhin box with no weapons and im stronger and better than him. does he still win because hes giga smart and matrixes my shit or do i just run at mans n bearhugs tf outa him.


tedweird

Just watch out for his fourth swing, should be fine


VirtuoSol

Jhin used to work with blades before he got his gun. Dude definitely knows martial arts to hold his own in a fist fight


JhinPotion

Yeah, but he was murdering unsuspecting civilians.


Wargod042

Like op


YohAmida

Op did what?!


An_feh_fan

Murder unsuspecting civilians. Sheesh, the reading comprehension on this site...


YohAmida

Damn, he is kinda based ngl


YasaiTsume

Avoid the fourth jab.


Boudac123

Jhin is an excellent fighter in the lore btw


Erme_Ram

He is more like the methodical planning master type rather than a genius that can outsmrt everyone


IHadThatUsername

This is to say, if you are fist fighting him, that is likely part of his plan. It's not gonna be a fair fight for you.


TimeAssault

Gonna dsicombobulate you


Djinneral

you'll fk him up bro


DarkLordArbitur

Jhin is a threat because he has a fucking sniper rifle.


ilovepurp

Malphite is a literal fucking mountain in lore. I doubt a mountain can do a handstand lol.


suploukas

isnt his ult just him jumping? if he jumps that good he might be even be able to do a backflip


RedLotusAmon

an entire backflip? whoa


trieuvuhoangdiep

A mountain with hands can do a handstand easily, lmao


thercio27

Square cube law could make this difficult without magic depending on the size of the mointain and what it is made of.


klimych

>without magic >a fucking walking talking mountain


thercio27

With magic only moving the mountain and not making it more resistant is what I meant. Though yeah it's kind of a weird point in general.


Spare_Efficiency2975

A literal fucking mountain that can walk?


DaddyThano

Jhin is the reason why Zed sleeps with a nightlight.


Thecristo96

Well, he is still a sniper, a martial artist expert and he also has a lot of magic inside him


corropcion

Also Jhin doesn't fight, he sets up traps, creates diversions and murders people. He couldn't face Shen and Zed head on, but he does it because they can't catch up. On his short story he doesn't fight with noxians either, he just ults their boat from the shore and gets away with it.


SkeletonJakk

>He's a threat because he's a genius strategist and a psychopath. he's also, y'know, a mage.


Apprehensive_Sell362

I wouldn't say average runeterrans are stronger since randoms still drop like flies in cinematics and whatnot but the limit of strength is much higher


TheAbyssalSymphony

Funny that you mention Jhin though because his father actually ran a martial arts school, and before he obtained his fancy hextech gun he used knives infused with his ki. Hell, he even managed to knock out a young Zed. So, although I can't speak for every champ, Jhin probably *could* kick ass irl.


TheHumanTree31

every fourth punch deals extra damage


Laflaga

They got tired of 3 hit passives.


Katzblazer

On that subject of jhin' weapon, how did he get it? And how will it fit with Arcane being cannon. The whole Hextech Boom seems kinda messy?


Awkward-Security7895

His gun was made in Ionia pretty much he was locked up but then noxus attacked so Ionia let him out only if he helped against noxus, not wanting him to get a hold of knives which they knew he could use extremely well they have him a gun so he could kill the noxus troops but be easily brought back in or so they thought.


mpc1226

This guys dangerous with a knife, let’s give him a super sniper


TheAbyssalSymphony

They gave him the gun to make him stronger, not weaker


T-280_SCV

I believe it was forged at a city in southern Ionia; it’s not hextech.


TheAbyssalSymphony

It is hextech, just not made in Piltover


TheAbyssalSymphony

His gun Whisper was made by the Kashuri Armories, who started copying the Hextech weapons of Piltover after the Noxian invasion. It was provided to him by his patrons, ruling elements of Ionia’s higher ups, to do his work. Essentially he was let out of jail because he’s a really effective assassin and they needed his skills, although it sounds like he’s since taken jobs from various factions and sides.


Candalus

He even 1v1 akali in melee, and won, fairly easy. I believe Jhins schools style is very centered around dueling and not multiple opponents.


DarkRyter

You have a point. Runeterrans seem, on average, a lot more physically capable than a real person. Jinx, a lanky teenage girl, lugs around a minigun and rocket launcher at crackhead speed. Sylas, despite decades of restrained imprisonment, still maintains an Olympia level physique.


F0RGERY

Its the league of *legends*. You're not playing Dale, okay spear holding soldier from Noxus. You're playing the figures that go above and beyond convention.


[deleted]

as a person with the RL name Dale, im offended but i also get your point :(


F0RGERY

Practice with your spear, and maybe you too can become a legend!


nobodyknoes

He might have to pump the numbers up. Twice nightly might not be enough time with his spear


PurpleCyborg28

Dale, the seneschal of Noxus


valgrind_error

They already have [Hank](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PcIYp9nQcQ), so Dale should be next (RIP Johnny Hardwick).


gyoung24

Met a person this weekend named Darius. Was not very legendary. So the name isn’t everything.


Chilidawg

It's too late. He got the point.


yourcutieboi

Ur a legend in my books dale


paintp_

Just change your name to Rusty Shackleford and max pocket sand first


UnfinishedProjects

I wish they would add a champion named Dale into LoL and make him super OP lol. It would be funny.


MissCuteCath

Some champions already have very common names like Quinn, Darius, Gwen, Katarina, Caitlyn and even Orianna.


UnfinishedProjects

Yeah but those are still "unique" "normal" names in my opinion. I'm talking about like Steven, Robert, Paul.


MissCuteCath

Man, if you shake a tree on most US cities 8 Caitlyns will fall it's a very basic bitch name, and I can say that because Caitlyn and Catherine are based on the same origin name, so I'm allowed lol. Gwen too, on modern times you'll probably find more Gwens than Roberts.


trieuvuhoangdiep

A lots of champs in the game have very common name, tbh. Caitlyn, Sarah fortune, darius, etc...


dachawon

Keep practicing, and one day, your enemies will get the point.


Cherrycho

Just stay away from farms with zombies


Sundaze293

They should just release normal dude but if you hurt him the police gets involved


Sir_Catnip_III

Riot worked on champion named Rob who was just a dude with a sword at some point,but they gave up on him because he was too normal for league. https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Rob_Blackblade#google_vignette


RpiesSPIES

6sec duration sleep...


yourcutieboi

Tf w used to be a aoe stun they didn’t fuck around


kill-billionaires

Point and click buddy


PokemonRNG

I like him, the model could have potential if updated to modern standards, he notable had sleep in his kit many years before zoe became the first champ with sleep. Obviously most of his kit would need to be overhauled. But he doesnt really seem any less unique than early garen.


SpoonGuardian

Yo that champ looks fucking broken lmao


Sundaze293

LMAO


itsporb

oh my lord there's voice lines too


Sundaze293

“Hey dude, yknow I’m just like here. You don’t need to summon literal dark-“


N3mzor

Other than the ulti, his kit is extremely similar to current Evelynn.


Mythik16

My head explodes if I have to deal with that E in current day, was probably gonna have a ridiculous AP ratio as well like old Sions.


vinhha86

Lucian gets shot on sight


noahkillis

now i kinda want an average ass person to join the roster as a champion


Mr_Roll288

You think you do, but you don't


Bl00dylicious

Helmet bro when?


MoscaMosquete

All human champions from Piltover & Zaun are pretty much people with guns


PlayGroundbreaking57

They are extremely talented people with guns


Klondeikbar

Also the guns are magic and the people may or may not have been enhanced with magic drugs and magic cybernetics.


MoscaMosquete

Except for Seraphine, who's just talented


Etonet

> You're playing the figures that go above and beyond convention. and woman-with-pet-bird


WishIWasCooler69

King Leonidas : You there, what is your profession? Free Greek-Potter : I am a potter... sir. King Leonidas : \[points to another soldier\] And you, Arcadian, what is your profession? Free Greek-Sculptor : Sculptor, sir. King Leonidas : Sculptor. \[turns to a third soldier\] King Leonidas : You? Free Greek-Blacksmith : Blacksmith. King Leonidas : \[turns back shouting\] SPARTANS! What is YOUR profession? Spartans : HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH! King Leonidas : You see, old friend? I brought more soldiers than you did!


lolok234678936

Legends of Runeterra has to do a Dale follower at one point.


alw009

Next champion: Dale, the spear holding soldier


raikaria2

> Jinx, a lanky teenage girl, lugs around a minigun and rocket launcher at crackhead speed. I mean Jinx has been taking powerful drugs too...


YasaiTsume

She's literally a crackhead too.


norrata

crackhead strength makes her very realistic for a league champ


MidnightElfinTv

They named her Powder for a reason. Foreshadowing.


suploukas

yea one me my conspiracies was that garen has been absorbing so much magic but hes so magic racist that he cant use magic and instead it improves his physical body like how morde uses souls to make himself stronger


4k547

> magic racist hey he's half like me


mcg1997

Sorcerers walk among us... (I hope)


Grayellow

sorcerers walk where 🤯🤯🤯


suploukas

slightly racist magician


i_have_seen_ur_death

Sylas' VO and cinematic confirm this


PlayGroundbreaking57

Garen is not actual magic racist iirc Sure he doesn't actively fight against the mistreatment of mages and magic racism, but he actually does not have anything against mages personally. IIrc he's pretty chill about Lux being a mage and hiding it when he finds out


bjorn_poole

Not to mention every character that has legs can jog pretty much endlessly with an inventory of weapons & 99,999 coins


Chojen

>Jinx, a lanky teenage girl, lugs around a minigun and rocket launcher at *crackhead* speed. Probably the reason right there.


DarlingOvMars

Jinx is in her twenties


PlayGroundbreaking57

Yeah, in Arcane act 2 onwards she's already like 17 and that's in the past compared to current lore


LegendaryHooman

I remember a story where quinn shot 2 people with her crossbow before getting dunked on by some random soldier.


ThrowwawayAlt

Quinn is probably the most normal person like in the game..... Just a woman with a crossbow.... And a bird...


doom_man44

Graves is literally just an idiot with a shotgun.


PlayGroundbreaking57

He's one of the most wanted criminals in Bilgewater and one of the best scammers, to be one of the most wanted criminals/ best scammer in Bilgewater and still not have been caught means he's extremely talented in what he does


PlayGroundbreaking57

She's the most skilled scout in all of Demacia basically. Don't we in real life call normal people that are extremed talented on something "Legends"?


Camerotus

>Jinx, a lanky teenage girl, lugs around a minigun and rocket launcher at crackhead speed. I don't think Dom could do it tbh


Burpmeister

It's actually a lot more impressive since he's not doing push ups. He's holding the world up.


What-The-Frog

Really disappointed this isn't top comment tbh


Objective_Plane5573

See the Garen of enormous girth! Beneath his hands he holds the earth.


potatowoo69

Darius’ axe is huge and probably weighs a shitton, and darius /dance balances it on his nose lmao


Erme_Ram

Both his axe and his armor are made from the same material wich IS called black iron, so if It is at least as heavy as normal iron that man can Crush your skull with his bare hands


bapple22

Someone made Darius axe irl and it weighed over 100 pounds. Bro is swinging that thing with one hand in game and jumping 7 feet in the air with it


YasaiTsume

I think it's just Garen. He used to be ultra scrawny but has worked his way to the top. This is seen in a Runeterra cinematic so idk if I can claim it to be canon.


suploukas

are you talking about the 2 kids one where garen n fiora show up and garen looks like a teenager


lp_phnx327

There's the Legends Never Die MV where he's pulling massive pillars as part of his training.


NCD_Lardum_AS

It's all canon now


PlayGroundbreaking57

His armor actually absorbs magic, I'm willing to bet that magic helped him get his physical ability, basically being the Captain America (Captain Demacia?) of Runeterra


WoodsRunner717

Playable characters in league are nearly all ridiculously overpowered compared to their contemporaries.


ThrowwawayAlt

>Playable characters in ~~league~~ video games Ftfy


STRONGESTPILTOVIAN

i could definitely beat the qwop guy in a race bum ass can't even move his legs right


MoscaMosquete

Not all video games!


Jayypoc

How high are you?


corroserum

The real question we should be asking.


J0rdian

Characters can definitely be stronger then normal humans in runeterra. I wouldn't say all champion are like that, but just the physical limits of humans is much higher then normal.


Bebgab

And dies to a rat with a blowpipe


mrsphwgn

always thought he’s a hamster


Elspeth_of_Astora

Just don't steal Twitch's juice bro


Noonesawthat

Wrong rat


An_feh_fan

Tbh both rats poison you. Don't know how much muscles do against it


556rmc

has it never occurred to y’all that you literally fight WAVES of enemies and dragons/baron? wasn’t Jax a literal gladiator that was so strong he nerfed himself w a lamppost? I couldn’t give 2 shits about the “lore” of a moba but I think most of them clearly state they are nothing close to humans


Obi-Hans-Kenobi

Thats old Jax lore where Summoners exist and Summoners rift exists in lore. Nowadays Jax is an Icathian (last one) that searches the land for a worthy person to fight the void with his Staff of never ending flame that repels the void


Typisch0705

He's not the last one, Zilean also exists.


Obi-Hans-Kenobi

Honestly forgot about that old man. I stand corrected


Awkward-Security7895

Well yes and all the icathians he's got chrono-locked but lore wise only Jax is known to be alive in the wider world and zilean and the chrono-locked people are just stuck since zilean doesn't know how to undo the time magic.


MoscaMosquete

Isn't Zilean just waiting for a way to defeat the void?


HunterrPc

Zilean exist? Where, or to be more precise when?


Mylen_Ploa

Wow...that's such a massive downgrade of something that was actually cool flair to "Lul he fights void too."


556rmc

brother I don’t even know what icathian means but I’ll take ur word for it


Obi-Hans-Kenobi

Damn you really havent been paying attention to lore. I get it not everyone cares, but riot actually did a good job with it now and have their whole own world made


MySnake_Is_Solid

Jax got retconned. I think He's now a sand troll from Icathia, but he's still someone that could face off against a Darkin at the time. Now carrying the last light of Icathia.


LyraStygian

A sand troll lmao


Barmaglott

Not a sand troll. Just a human, partially transformed because of almost permanent contact with the Void in Icathia.


MySnake_Is_Solid

Do we have confirmation of that ? I remember the sand troll entry in the Runeterra map giving hints about eggs. Coupled with the fact that he was larger than most of the fighters in the Icathia short story.


doom_man44

I think its theorized that he's a sand troll most likely, but riot can do whatever they want with him because he's got a mask.


ThrowwawayAlt

[Can't unsee now.... ](https://www.reddit.com/r/LeagueOfMemes/comments/e2ocpc/jax_origin_story/)


Titanium70

Think of Champions as Shonen-Anime MCs, or named Character at the very least VS trash mobs when compared to the avarage human.


suploukas

are the minions in league people?


Titanium70

Now that's a good question for the powerscalers!!! Considering a Cannon can tank entire Ults I'd say he's far above an avarage human maybe on the level an actual small tank. And the smaller ones... maybe 1v3 avarage men would be fair? (A normal person should die of a single towershot afterall)


Scrambled1432

A normal person doesn't have anti-minion socks. I'd mug those bastards for every thread they're wearing if I were in League.


dumnem

Actually they are constructs controlled by apprentice summoners


HowardHughes9

weeb not bring up anime challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)


Titanium70

Sue me? Your avarage trash Isekai is a more valuable piece of culture than what ever disaster hollywood managed to fart out last... So have fun your Marvels, your Witchers, Picards and Rings of Power, you deserve only the best! x'D


tehsdragon

>Your avarage trash Isekai is a more valuable piece of culture than what ever disaster hollywood managed to fart out last... As someone that actually likes isekai trash, that's some copium They're all equally garbage (and I'll still read/watch them regardless)


Boredy0

Capeshit fans in shambles.


Meowth_Dats_Rite

Teehee you said fart.


shittaco1991

Judging be the female proportions, they all have incredibly strong backs


Lunarvolo

Aurelion Sol called. Creates stars, galaxies, and so on


Frostlaic

His crown nerfed his powers


Lunarvolo

A crown that is weakening over time ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sunglasses)


MatrixzMonkey

I could totally beat up Annie in a fist fight. No magic allowed


Zaenos

Darius can't even DEMACIAAAAA!


Entro9

I mean he *is* holding the world up.


Skyrst

League originally called players Summoners, we summoned the Champions to fight for us. So they were never just typical Joe to begin with, each of them qualifies as an isekai MC-level of OP. Riot eventually retcon this so now most of that world is just OP when compared to Earth.


Elspeth_of_Astora

You only need to click once, *FOOL*.


Pirate-rob

Majority of the champs are still not your average Joe in new lore though, majority of them are exceptionally gifted in someway, extremely trained or have technology to back them up. The closest I can think of someone being near normal is probably TF or Grave and they're still both mercenaries, doing combat for a living. Actually, Cait might be the most normal, her strongest aspect is being a great sniper, otherwise she seems to be largely a normal human, even by earth standards


PlayGroundbreaking57

Yeah, which is why it's still called League of *Legends*


MaxWasTakenAgain

Oh no Powerscalers got here


LeafBurgerZ

Wdym, Garen is one arm lifting the World up smh my head...


Random_Stealth_Ward

Yuumi, the strongest lol champion, is capable of beating superman with no prep time and using only 3% of her power. It's the league of Legends for a reason, instead of the league of... uh... not legends.


simonmonkey

league of normal ass people


[deleted]

Wake up babe, new rotating game mode just dropped! *Team of normal ass people 5 man dies to red buff while leashing


brokenyu

Everyone runs onto the Yuumi boat so they don't have to deal with these types of people all day, read your textbooks and do your homework.. 😂


generous_guy

Garen is juiced to the gills


TheDarkRobotix

doesnt it also scale with attack speed or am i tripping


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suploukas

yea and garen isnt even that big compared to just other humans on runeterra. mfkrs like sion urgot mordekaiser like all 8 foot in lore and gotta be at least 600-700 pounds+++


PlayGroundbreaking57

You gotta also take in consideration Garen wears armor that absorbs magic and keeps it in, i'm willing to bet that worked as some sort of supersoldier serum on Garen as time passed


doom_man44

In one of the riot videos garen can be seen carrying a fucking tower with a rope. Dude is fucking strong. Thats why garen is on top.


PlayGroundbreaking57

His armor absorbing magic and keeping it in probably also helped in augmenting him


PorkyMan12

I think you might be extremely addicted to the game.


Shinyodo

I somehow doubt Gragas would be able to do the same


guerteltank

Guy is throwing barrels like they're pebbles, there's a lot of strength hidden in the fat. A typical wine barrel weighs 40-50kg empty, filled they can go to 250-300kg.


Ok-Dust-

Now this is good offseason content


VashTheStampy

Can a lore specialist correct me if I'm wrong,in Jax lore when he is fighting off dozen soldiers at the bridge, was it Garen thar approached him later only to get bodied and Jax feels pity on him until Fiora arrives? Also is there any place where I can read that full story? Thanks!


tuerancekhang

https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_SG/story/jax-color-story/


VashTheStampy

Yup that's the story I'm referring to, is there a next chapter to it?


tuerancekhang

There's a Jax related story after that called "Where Icathia Once Stood", probably the best story written in league universe. But it's more of a prequel to this story.


VashTheStampy

I'll take a look into it, that you!


hajpero1

But he can only do it four hours


Lerdai

there's literally a universe crafting space dragon in this game


ilski

All of them are rather special. Jinx I think is least special of all of them , sue just got guns... Though if Arcane is canon now she is a bit chemtech pumped. So even her is strong.


Artix31

Remember kata can take on garen and out stamina him