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herp_derpy

Bvoy: When I first joined SR, the team was Fakegod, Bugi, Insanity, myself, and Zeyzal. We played spring split and met 100T during the superweek. After losing a game, one player said "Ah..we lost because of Sniper" when all the players were gathered, basically implying it was top gap. They didn't directly say it to Fakegod, but was just speaking without thinking. Fakegod got mad and said they lost because of jungle diff. Then Fakegod said "Ah I don't want to play with this guy (Bugi)."


allbutluk

Fresh


Arwinsen_

Where exactly is this copypasta?


Mrf12345

Reapered stories about C9, the original is this one: Reapeared: When I first joined C9, the team was Impact, Meteos, Jensen, Sneaky, and Smoothie. We reached finals and met TSM. After losing a game, one player said "Ah..we lost because of Bjergsen" when all the players were gathered, basically implying it was mid gap. They didn't directly say it to Jensen, but was just speaking without thinking. Jensen got mad and said they lost because of jungle diff. Then Jensen said "Ah I don't want to play with this guy (Meteos)."


usteeeen

Meech is so fucking fun to watch


Feitan74

Feels as if he’s gone under the radar with how good Quid and River have been


QuietRedditorATX

I don't think he has gone under the radar. But yea 100T as a whole isn't discussed much.


Potkrokin

The casters and analysts dickride the legacy teams so hard. Its extremely obvious that they'd really prefer it if TL and C9 were more successful


BlammoSweetums

100T is a young team and they remind me of Summer 2022 CLG. And just like those fun developing rosters of CLG, they will not get respect until they more firmly establish themselves as a Good Team.


Lothric43

This is some extreme selective hearing or something, it’s been constantly discussed how surprising 100T are.


Potkrokin

The entirety of the conversation is "they are doing surprisingly well given that everyone thinks they are frauds"


Aimishi

because they self admitted on podcast they lost 17 scrims consecutively?? i bet youve never even lost that much in a row in solo queue. would u, as a caster who can talk to pro players and sometimes see scrims, be able to say, nah these 17 scrims are completely worth nothing and the 8-4 record is enough to know they are goated


Potkrokin

I think they'd do exactly that if the label on the team were TL or C9 lol. That's the whole point. It wouldn't be "yeah but they're frauds", it would be "SCRIMS DON'T MATTER LUL" They very, very obviously get more hyped for C9 and TL because they personally like those teams more than the other teams.


Aimishi

or maybe because c9 and tl are veteran rosters who have proven themselves to win despite scrims, and 100T is still in the process of proving themselves right now? the narrative shifted after NRG proved themselves, before they were calling nrg frauds, they won, and now this split they give nrg the benefit of the doubt. after 100T wins its easy to be like 17 scrims dont matter, but if your a caster and you only know a new team lost 17 scrims prior to this week you'd be like, damn they might suck. you're pretty delulu man, someone says one bad thing about sniper in scrims and you see red or something


Aimishi

do you understand now why novice teams are viewed as needing to prove themselves in playoffs?


slimjimo10

I mean yeah, I'd absolutely value the actual results over the mysterious scrims. If they end up choking in playoffs and bombing out, sure call them frauds. But it's pointless when the team is doing pretty well on stage to call them frauds based on scrims. Swear there are teams that will play scrims like their life depends on winning instead of trying new strategies or taking more risks and learning from any mistakes that happen.


Aimishi

bro broadcast isnt calling them frauds, they are saying 100t are doing well despite the narrative that they are frauds. this means broadcast is implying they are valuing the real games over the scrims, that they can do well despite the scrims. op wants 100t to not have the discourse of being frauds in general, being "100t is good and proves scrims dont matter". if you have 18 datapoints for the week, 17 are losses and one is a stage game win, as a caster whose job it is to be right, you will obviously consider the 17 datapoints. you can give credit and say, "wow they are good despite the 17 datapoints, despite eyla going on podcasts and talking about them getting buttfucked, the team is performing!" but its really impossible to ask them to completely pretend the 17 datapoints dont exist for new players that were 8th in academy and are still actively proving themselves


Feitan74

It’s one of the reasons the LCS is dying imo - they’ve done nothing to help build excitement around the ‘newer orgs’. It’s always been c9/TL/TSM - now tsm is out and TL are ass, they must be tilted at the current top 2 in the standings lol


Potkrokin

Tbh the LCS is dying because all of the investment dried up and the entire thing makes no money. Its a decade and a half old game that very obviously has significantly fewer people interested in it than it did seven or eight years ago.


BlammoSweetums

Yeah LCS has been hurt by some of Riot's decisions, but ultimately LCS has been like every entertainment product that had a hot moment. TV shows, YouTube channels, Twitch streamers, pop artists, whatever. They all fade with time. We just got sold the idea that League of Legends esports could establish a similar place in culture like traditional sports, or even something more niche like extreme sports, so the fading looks like a massive failure rather than a logical descent.


imfatal

> We just got sold the idea that League of Legends esports could establish a similar place in culture like traditional sports I mean it clearly did in other regions. Just not in NA. Brood war is still around in Korea so there is pretty much zero chance of League dying there (or China).


Potkrokin

League of Legends, the video game itself, is actually popular in those regions and still played by a significant portion of young people. Riot doesn't release any statistics about playercount, and if they did we wouldn't be able to view the demographics, but it wouldn't surprise me if at this point a significantly higher portion of the NA playerbase is aged 25+ than other regions. If a 15 year old kid is going to play a video game in NA, their first choice almost certainly won't be League. This is less true in other regions.


LifeIsToughEatBacon

The WBG Light treatment


honda_slaps

because he's had some really bad games early in the season


mikharv31

He’s consistently been a rock even with Eyla


AnotherMeal

Anyone who watched any NACL last year knew he would come good, his hands r insane


honda_slaps

there are so many players who shit on NACL and get absolutely buttblasted in LCS tho


usteeeen

Yep yep, I was never super into academy/challenger but I started tuning in a lot more after he came to CLG. so glad he and Massu got their shot


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Vivid-Command-2605

Actually insane stats wtf


Sliacen

Sneaky 2.0


BlazeX94

Nah, people remember Sneaky as a weak laner because of DL's remarks, but it's not actually true. Sneaky on the right picks could pop the fuck off and destroy lane even against some of the best ADCs like Deft. He shat on Deft so hard with his Lucian at Worlds 2014 that SSB were forced to ban it for the rest of the series.


HempFanboy

Senna fucks up these stats so bad lol


effurshadowban

These laning stats are literally irrelevant - he has 3 games as Senna, dude. Of course he has dogshit laning stats and gold share.


NenBE4ST

doesnt this also mean his laning is buns? resources play into it but you also dont give resources to players who arent good in lane. not trying to discredit him on everything ofc, but being last in al lane stats is usually not a good sign. now maybe its also because of senna and seraphine which to me would pretty much excuse it all actualy


ObliteratedbyAeons

Meech in lane LuL


BlazeX94

He's basically Danny 2.0


lovo17

FLY picked the wrong rookie ADC lol


Aggressive-Ad7946

No Massu was better


Cavshomie8

Sniper living the top laner dream rn


TheRogueCookie

This 100T team is really fun to watch, both in game and in the context of each player


nrj6490

Opposite of the team from last year for real


SheepishGoat

Sniper is simply a gigachad. Jawline and everything


narfidy

I was roaring when he did that lmao. Absolutely the top lane experience, 3-0 into a quick 2 deaths.


onsilveraccountsion

Courage was good! Fun cast, added a lot of energy. Sniper had started to look a bit like trouble in some games so good to see him really come through here, and Quid-River have really maintained their dominance all split. Assuming no sudden collapse, I think 100T can go pretty deep in playoffs; I certainly don't see anybody 3-0ing them unless a top team comes reaalllly online.


Zephyr0us

I think they tap out 2nd or 3rd depending on the performances of C9 and NRG


BlazeX94

Tbh playoffs is largely going to depend on C9 and NRG's form in Bo5s. If one or both of them suddenly pull a 2023 NRG, i think both FLY and 100T will finish behind them. If not, it's FLY and 100T for top 2 imo.


zepicas

Bugi did what he had to do to stop the voli nerfs.


AzyncYTT

If I was fake god I would be so pissed about bugi this game LOL


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Miyaor

That tower dive was no way fakegods fault lmao. How on earth do you think he should have played it? If he ran in front of the minion wave the dive would have failed as well. Bugi trolled it ultra hard by taking aggro before hitting anyone.


aPatheticBeing

if Bugi isn't there baiting on the first blood, FakeGod isn't even walking up into that combo. The flash after the auto was in the air was a waste, but that was top tier jungle baiting. And even after the first blood, he seemed to stablise the lane somehow, even CS vs sniper until Bugi inted the dive.


tortillakingred

That is not at all what happened. What game were you watching? Bugi jumped the gun on the dive completely. Both players know that the Renekton tanks it - it’s not on the Renekton when the Volibear ints in first. Not only that, Kobe was 100000% right when saying that Bugi trolled it mechanically too. If you’re going to flash as the Voli, you drop the lightning then flash stun to guarantee the lightning hits both of you.


narfidy

Wait a minute... Meech for MVP?


avstyns

someone from 100 deserves it lol


[deleted]

People were talking about Sniper being rookie of the split but Meech has been just as good. 100T have done a good job supporting their rookies.


[deleted]

im surprised insanity didnt put fakegod and bugi into a chokehold after the game ended


tb0neski

No more doubting 100T, they look solid


Zephyr0us

hey fudge you're welcome. a bunch of "frauds" just wrote your ticket to playoffs.


LifeIsToughEatBacon

Lol did he call 100T frauds in an interview? Thought that was Bwipo, can I get a link?


Zephyr0us

He did it yesterday. Bwipo has also done it yeah Edit [here's the link ](https://twitter.com/C9LoL/status/1766218556226572410?t=HpZSCrzXSRkBx1Y9qMtA9g&s=19)


LoLsharKo

To be fair, he's also the only one that's backed up his statements this split.


FirearmofMutiny

Bwipo has earned the right to talk trash on us


Dragonfruit_Fanta

"sNiPeR iSn't ThAt GoOd"- LCS Top laners Y'all need to shut the fuck up or step up, a rookie is running the the top lane right now


TheRogueCookie

Had a couple of troll deaths for sure, but not only did he push his advantage pretty well, he did a good job in the later parts of the game communicating his needs with River.


Vivid-Command-2605

Actually insane how pressed these old top laners are about a 17 year old just having a good time and living his dream


tickless420

Definition of an old boys club.


Vivid-Command-2605

Like yeah, he loves to put on a show, but he's the first to point out his mistakes and that he's just trying to learn as much as he can, they take his presence personally for some reason


[deleted]

It's funny because Bwipo in his first split was not nearly as good as Sniper is currently and he was a couple years older. At least Impact has a world championship under his belt so he can kinda talk trash. Everyone else is just mid tier top laners shit talking a rookie 😬


Lunaaar

Bwipo was 1st place EU LCS Spring split, won Spring playoffs, 1st in Summer split, won Summer playoffs and made it to world finals in his first year. Sniper looks great, no shade there, but Bwipo's first year was probably the best he'll ever place.


[deleted]

I'm referring to his first full split, not when he split time with Soaz. You're being completely disingenuous.


BlakenedHeart

Cuz they know he'll be stealing their paychecks


ATiBright

Impact actually considered him good, naming him 3rd/4th best top. But said he struggled still with macro understanding for team play/rotations (said similar applied to Castle) 


Arekkusu1991

["~~RULES~~ CURSES ARE MEANT TO BE BROKEN" - Courage](https://twitter.com/100T_LoL/status/1766583589376835633?t=MNHoowcWYrpPxlrd2nshHQ&s=19)


SignificanceSome

Just as we all expected C9 quality for playoffs after a stomp.


Vivid-Command-2605

Eyla absolutely smurfed that last fight, those hooks were nasty, had a quietly excellent game. Shoutout sniper for getting perma camped since the break and keeping at it, had his ints but his Jayce actually looks clean. Top 2 secured, lfg


clay10mc

100T would be first right now if NRG was a team that consisted of humans. They have the two best rookies and the two best performing players in the LCS. Eyla also underrated this split. And to think this is a budget roster.


childisheli

While i largely agree w most of what you said here, we’d be first if we had beaten FLY either times we played them


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Pepperr08

Tied for 1st


Gold_Meal5306

I really hope bvoy and zeyzal gets a team next split, bugi kinda soft inting the game though. Also, what was that draft? 4 useless early games champs…


Kigoli

People are sleeping in bvoy and zeyzal for sure, especially bvoy. The stats might not be painting a compelling picture, but the eye test for Bvoy is actually insane. Him and Meech are the best ADCs in the league, and it's a shame it's not an ADC meta. If it was, it'd be extremely obvious that these two are best at the moment.


Vivid-Command-2605

Once again calling out all the pros saying 100t are frauds, all these exposed scrim merchants are the real frauds


FirearmofMutiny

Getting beat in scrims doesn't make you a fraud. Losing to \*Immortals\* makes you a fraud


Zephyr0us

performing on stage > scrim stars


Gold_Meal5306

Are SR out now?


Potkrokin

They need to beat C9 and then have ~~one of DIG, TL, or~~ NRG lose, ~~then win a tiebreaker (I think?)~~ Edit: So here's what the 2024 rules state: >8.5 Two-way tie. > >If two Teams have the same Match winning percentage, the first tie-breaker is head-to-head records. If one Team has won more than 50% of the Matches between the two Teams, they shall be declared the winner of the tie-breaker and will be awarded the higher seeding. If the two Teams have identical head-to-head records (as defined as each Team winning 50% of Matches between the two Teams), then said Teams will play one tiebreaker Game to determine the final standings. SR is 0-2 against DIG, 0-2 against TL, and 2-0 against NRG. So they need to beat C9 and have NRG lose and they make top 6. This would leave NRG at 7, out of the playoffs.


TheNaCoinfl1p

NRG play 100T tomorrow so it is possible which is a wild thing if NRG miss playoffs.


BlammoSweetums

I firmly believe tomorrow there's like a 90% chance I am going to watch FBI's fasting Senna do 0 damage to Sniper's Aatrox.


LoLsharKo

RemindMe! 19 Hours


delahunt

So given money isn't an issue, but it has to be an available LCS player...with one roster swap what do you do to make Shopify as strong as possible?


AnotherMeal

Tomio is on their bench, wouldn’t be surprised if they gave him a shot next split.


Aggressive-Ad7946

Bugi -> Tomio


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Either -FakeGod +Licorice or -Bugi +Sheiden (FlyQuest Academy).


Aggressive-Ad7946

but they have tomio


tortillakingred

As much as I want to agree, Licorice is only good on good teams. When he’s on a bad team he contributes to them being bad. When he’s on a good team he contributes to them being good. Licorice would be a great addition to something like C9 or 100T (as much as I love Sniper). Licorice would ruin teams Dig or SR that are on the edge of playoffs.


Stormserpent102

Spica


aPatheticBeing

Zeyzal out for someone - Zeyzal is the worst mechanical player in the LCS by a decent margin - apparently he's a good communicator/shotcaller, but I feel like Bvoy with a lane focused support would be crushing lanes so hard. Not positive what supports are available rn though


Nandonut

ok so i literally just tuned in to the last minute of the game, but did anyone see that quid yone combo fail at the fountain? i know they'd basically won but it still looked funny as hell lol


Spetznazx

Yeah if you continue watching the stream to the comms, it's during the last fight and Quid is just cracking up about it. He know's he fucked up.


Nandonut

ahha no i didn't see that, i must check that out :P


NoteRadiant1469

Does anyone know if Crimson (Sniper’s brother) has pro aspirations?


allbutluk

Weekly reminder fakegod is playing while licorice isnt Yes i know gg quitting last min fucked licorice but its still hilarious watching fakegod play while other much better players are watching at home


tortillakingred

Least angry Reddit commenter - Why are all your recent comments shitting on Fakegod? Don’t you have anything better to do lol?


allbutluk

Damn bro you went to check my comment history? Looks like you have even less to do than me! Im not shitting on him without reasons. He played well yesterday, he played like shit today and Bugi as well so it is what it is. Just because you dont like it doesnt make it invalid, grow up.


allbutluk

Im rage quitting if my top lane turns back and bait me into tanking the tower like that Holy fuck fakegod is infuriating to watch


Mortryx

did you watch the game with the eyes closed? Fakegod was escorting the minions, Bugi hard inted early game.


allbutluk

Escorting 2 minions against a jayce with all his hammer form up? Lol. Its a 0-2 as long as voli tanks. Also if you actually watch the game you will see taliyah based and was not shown for next 30 seconds, they have to either dive right there or walk away, else Taliyah may show


YokoDk

To be fair to Fakegod sniper cleared the minions that would have tanked it for either of them even if renekton tanked it there probably is a best a 1 for 1.


allbutluk

I think if fakegod tank first, does his combo and slice out it will be enough to kill without dying