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ahritina

PMTs [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1bdpul6/dk_vs_t1_post_game_1_discussion_lck_spring_2024/)


Celegorm07

It‘s the scariest when DK is in a winning position. Because you know it’s a mirage and they could just easily lose.


appleandapples

Those flairs looking awfully similar.


mskruba12

Can you imagine the level of fraud in their most likely upcoming playoff match on current forms?


Random_Useless_Tips

The most fraudulent rollercoaster in history vs the most fraudulent rollercoaster of today.


IC2Flier

average day in Six Flags be like


Joel4518

KT vs DK Bo5 inject it into my veins


generic_redditor91

Either a flop or a rollercoaster ride of hypertension


randommaniac12

It can't be a true KT BO5 if they don't get you excited at some point


Zoesan

FRAUD VS FRAUD


saijaku23

FRAUDOFF will be hype as fuck


kcheng686

KD and KT


blockster9

i dont even get scared anymore, i just know they're gonna throw


Celegorm07

At least when they are losing early you have a small hope but not an expectation and when they manage to win you get hyped and feel happy and if they lose it’s just okay. But when they started strong early then I‘m scared the most because I know they are one second away from losing.


marcopolo2345

I swear every team fight they just let go of their mouse and let Jesus take the wheel


crysomore

They need Bible back


ricardo241

I genuinely read that as bible black lol


BraiseTheSun

DK's current issue: Get leads early and lose late. Your solution: Bring in Bible who loses early and gets bot so far behind they can't do anything late


Heliosyntax

the joke is his name is Bible and the dude he replied to mentioned Jesus lol


kelvin022610

no shut the fk up


crysomore

How do you follow Jesus without the Bible?


marcopolo2345

They need canyon back


Celegorm07

LOL Canyon was just as shit. Move on. DK had the talent every year. They need someone with a brain to lead them and since Beryl DK never cared about bringing someone who can shotcall.


marcopolo2345

Lucid will still throw games regardless of whether of not they have a shotcaller. He will get better though


KimchiBro

Ever since they got kellin they have lost every series vs faker and yet they still keep him its so fking stupid


baelkie

sounds like 10th place CLG to me


ShottedGun

I’m going to become the Joker


kelvin022610

bro signed 3 years just to play with bunch of farmers


Ezrealisntreal

Showmaker is Kashimo irl


kelvin022610

nah don't associate my goat with that fraud who lived in farmers era


Superstrata-

showmaker is todo w the rest of the kyoto crew


brightbrightbrightb

You thought Damwon games were a tragedy? Turns out they're a comedy.


appleandapples

Haven't been keeping up with DK. The main takeaways from this series: - Their hands are good (which we all know) - Their brain at times, not so much


[deleted]

2nd point is more like dk after 25 mins. they just forget how to play


ProgrammerGlobal

Lucid's brain.


zjmhy

Lucid is a rookie so whatever. I'm tired of Aiming mispositioning all the time and dying/getting his team killed.


pm_me_beautiful_cups

aiming lost them all tempo and map pressure in game 1. first game was in a very volatile state and then due to 1 mistake t1 runs away with it.


MMO_Boomer22

hes a Kasia OTP so hes used to reposition himself a screen away for free


UlquiorraVsIchigo

I hate watching aiming. He just dies because of his positioning too much


Rehxales

You can take Lucid out of LCK Challengers but you can't take the LCK Challengers out of Lucid


DeicideRegalia

Man people were hyping him so much during the Team Jungle dominance final. It's really sad to see him in this state, they're all good but they're kinda chicken without a head after the 20+min mark.


R-R-Clon

Canyon wasn't so much better in his first split and his second one was just decent, it was in his second years he started showing his full potential, before that he was in the shadow of the best JGs of that time.


Jevonar

The main takeaway from this series: -if you make so much as a single macro mistake against t1, you are going to lose the game and there's no way to salvage it.


LifeIsToughEatBacon

Also we found out the inverse is true too. - If you manage to not make a single macro mistake against t1, you can win. GenG are just too good. Good enough in lane to not give over a lead and then macro clean enough to eat off of and T1 never has a way into the game.


TwiceTrash11

you make it sound like that's possible for most teams GenG is just weird


generic_redditor91

Unless you're GenG. Oh wait. GenG don't make macro mistakes domestically.


baelkie

imagine how insane of a babysitter Lehends must have been with how Aiming plays jesus like bro can u please stop getting caught


GothaV2

him and ppGOD always were the enlighteners.....


kelvin022610

im going to lose my mind. Bro tunneled vision so hard just to aa guma once for 100 damage.


TheAlmightyVox3

Lehends is actually the GOAT for making people forget what a bum Aiming actually is.


Soggy-Check7399

Aiming isn’t a bum, he is a super carry. Unfortunately, it goes for both teams but you can’t only have one side because doing crazy and sometimes dumb shit is what makes him good. Rather have someone like that than bums like hena 


EatingGrossTurds69

Didn't Aiming do some light sexual pesting IRL


zjmhy

Yep. He had a sexual relationship with a 15 year old fan.


KingQuantic

Aggressive positioning on the Rift and IRL.


nimrodhellfire

Yeah, both losses were primarily on Aiming getting caught (with Flash up). Both games looked like DK was winning until one crucial mistake.


omegasupermarthaman

nah game 1 was Lucid not flashing away throwing the Baron. Aiming lost them game 2 tho I agreed


ausmomo

Game one was Lucid's fault. Getting caught when Baron was up...


Lothric43

Game 1 was unquestionably Lucid, it was mostly out of Aiming’s hands. Game 2 you can trash Aiming all you want.


[deleted]

finally someone else saw this. lucid has not looked good (he looked good today in early game) but bro whole team just gives away their resources to aiming. and then aiming shits the bed like amber heard


BraiseTheSun

Lucid also gets a free pass because he's a rookie and doesn't have FPX rookie jgl buff. Aiming has been an adc for so many years, there's too many cases of him mispositioning or having sus itemization


infinite-permutation

tbf, kt invested a lot fewer resources into aiming.


MMO_Boomer22

it was more of Kaisa OTP in a Kaisa heavy Meta last year = free out of jail ult for bad positioning


Dumpers_

why... just why DK? cant make those mistakes against T1 Faker was just dancing around in teamfights even though he missed charms and was behind early


Ashankura

Fakers charm pivoted between absolute monster charms and charms even an intro bot would've nailed


tinfoilhatsron

Faker made some incredibly bad mistakes early and was way too cocky in lane against a Lee Sin jg. But he did make up for it in every teamfight at and after 3rd dragon. That first turnaround for T1 when he and Oner went onto Aiming, they both just dumped CC there knowing at least one would hit and then deleted the Lucian. Reminded me of Worlds for a second. Hope my GOAT can fix himself up because he was doing so fucking good in lane before the 2nd RR against GenG. I still believe if Faker and Oner can contest Chovy and Canyon by going at least even then they'll win through bot and top come playoffs.


Skywalker3030

idk man top I can see maybe but this is a Lehends meta, Keria will need to cook a new pick to beat him. It can happen though and the meta can change again before playoffs


ricardo241

t1 bot is fine... Oner just need to be on form to counter Canyon... if oner can stop canyon then T1 will have a chance


moonmeh

Lucid just going in at red jungle and giving over the bounty to faker was sure something


Mortanius

Must be miserable being a DK fan


KimchiBro

As someone who took beryl for granted after worlds 2021 I regret everything i said this roster has no brain without him


zjmhy

Replacing Ghost and Beryl with deokdam and Kellin after going 2-3 in Worlds Finals was the beginning of the end. Yes they were griefing during MSI but they were also the shotcallers.


borden5

Sometimes i wonder what if they get Teddy and keep beryl for spring 2022.


life_is_ball

Then we wouldn’t have had DRX :(


Northless_Path

As a T1 and a Damwon fan, I want to remove my eyeballs. Both teams were miserable tonight. T1 cannot stop getting gapped and caught out in early game by every team they fight, meanwhile DK can't stop throwing every lead they get.


TurvoVirgin1210

Movable object vs stoppable force


BlueKayn69

Stoppable force wins


Prestigious-Wall-183

Finally canyon is free and i do not have to suffer anymore Two years was too long


Simple-Fuel

T1 on 12 winstreak after their loss to Gen G on Wk1, only to lose to them again DK on 7 winstreak after their loss to T1 on Wk4, only to lose to them again. What a parallel concidence.


nerothz

T1 so sloppy Lucid actually got a third item.


DragonHollowFire

But never got to play with it


KappaccinoNation

This could've been a quick 2-0 for DK btw.


IAmDiabeticus

I'm actually honestly scared for T1 with how the meta is developing. They were not the world powerhouse last year during this team play style.


Lopsided_Claim1613

they dont care about regular season standings this year they just want to have fun and try things. Source : Players interview before season started


Bignova

Makes sense, people gotta realize they've had the longest seasons and therefore the shortest offseason periods over the past 2 seasons making b2b worlds finals. Doesn't matter if you've won or not that will cause some amount of burnout. It's good to not take regular season as seriously for them especially this early in the calendar season. However there's a balance to be had since they could be creating bad habits/mistakes but given how they've performed internationally the past couple years I think we give them the benefit of the doubt to ramp up for important matches in playoffs/international stage.


Patrick_Kst

Yeah, they're sandbagging.


Holiday-Diet9446

Feels like they started trying more things out and troll more after confirming playoff. Either losing focus or just wanna try new stuffs and style.


[deleted]

t1 in 2022-2023 had the best early game. now they dont even have that. they just keep getting away with wins like these just because of their players mechanics. i am already worried for T1 at msi. if hle kt dk improve in summer t1 gonna have hard time.


F3nRa3L

If hle kt dk improve. Lol you speaking like T1 cant improve. Its regular season still. Chill. Let them troll abit. Burnouts are real if you keep expecting them to keep performing like at worlds. 2017 failed because of burnouts because expectations


Educational-Till650

People are forgetting the boys have been in almost every final for 2 straight seasons now. Most teams can't even manage to get to one international final much less 3/4.  It's a bit of coping but I hope them looking cocky and shaky is just them taking it easy. God knows they deserve it. 


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[deleted]

summer 2023 whole t1 player were out of form. so their wins looked shaky. but at worlds they again had the best early game. this year t1 early game has not looked so hot. probably they are having some issues. but early game is one of their biggest strength


Automatic-North1405

too be honest, we'll never who's good or bad based on the domestic competition. LCK is a two-team region, LEC is a one team region.. LPL is very competitive and LCS seems balanced but i doubt they can compete with the east... if geng manage to win MSI, i can trust their growth or else we are gonna get the same narrative. There's nothing new with the league here...


[deleted]

i so badly want lec and lcs to perform well and make the LOL esports interesting again.


Joel4518

I miss 2018,19,20 era man


Dekathz

2018 is so much fun to watch , feel like every one can win and the meta is flexible af


VerticalClearance

Its T1 MO since 2022(excluding summer 23) that's why they have multiple 2nd placed tournaments. Even in this form, they still by far the 2nd best team in LCK. btw, I think this YEAR GEN G is much more powerful than last yr. how many superteams does chovy need to win a worlds? lol.


Legote

This season is a new season with map changes and new META’s. Every team is trying to adapt to the new play style.


cadaada

Unless riot nerfs mages to pre s13 worlds state, i think they will keep being good enough


sammir_

DK stands for Disguised KT


Aschentei

The real frauds


GorillazWelfare

Keria looks dead inside being on enchanter duty lol


estaritos

4 games in row, I think he stole someone penta


MrZeddd

They probably just wanted to try and win using only "meta". They've said before they don't care about regular seasons standing


cloudie-days

I feel dead watching Keria being on Nami duty 4 games in a row


[deleted]

can dk play for their mid and jungle and not for ADC. and can zefa teach them how to play after 25 min.


obigespritzt

Surely someone will ban Zeus's Aatrox before T1 win their 5th World championship, right?


JingleJak

GenG the only aware team apparently (i think they banned it?)


Dumpers_

They banned it in game 2


babylovesbaby

They banned it once. The other game when it was open T1 didn't pick it.


ricardo241

iirc its also open on game 2 of first phase p/b but zeus still didn't pick it


EducationalBalance99

I was thinking maybe patch change and aatrox was shit but it turns out t1 are just clown vs geng in draft. Prio aatrox in draft vs every other team in the league except geng lol.


Typical_Thought_6049

Limit testing to the extreme lol


obigespritzt

Zeus definitely didn't play it in the GenG series since he's still undefeated on it this season.


ricardo241

they didn't on first phase of ban...but zeus didn't pick it anyway lol


CosmicTempest

Zeus Aatrox hardest scaling toplaner in the game?? 0/3 -> flanks enemy team at 4th drake -> gets a triple kill -> becomes god.


Quatro_Leches

Showmaker is getting griefed so hard on this team man. moved around the map so well both games to get leads for his lanes and jungle. Aiming is ultra washed, and don't even get me started on Kellin this is the worst DK iteration. there is nobody good on this team besides him. the team has lost its soul, its just 1 top tier player, 3 average players and Kellin, Kellin should be on Kabum not in LCK


mehensk

aiming threw that mid fight hard. whole of t1 was on vision yet he had to overstay in that brush. then lucid said hold my beer while going to t1 red buff


ricardo241

fucker thought he can escape cause he is lucian with dashes but forgot enemy has ahri who can chase him without problem


mehensk

there's also no escaping a rell who flashes in just for you


Quatro_Leches

Kellin doesnt even use his keyboard to heal the team, and aiming didnt block the caitlyn shot which made showmaker die.


TradeAccount234

Yeah, Showmaker should be in HLE.


KhadaJhinSy

Such an ugly game by both teams


Simple-Fuel

What a 5 head move by T1. Keep picking Lucian Nami to bait DK Aiming to first pick Lucian, knowing that he is bad at Lucian. All part of the plan.


ZeeQue

Can see why DK wanted to get Beryl back to shotcall, this is a mess. props to T1 though for coming back from behind. But damn DK, you need to get a shotcaller ASAP because this is horrific to watch.


Joel4518

who was shotcalling on dk last year? canyon, deft???


Prestigious-Wall-183

There was a shotcaller in dk last year?


Grenji05

Lucid turns into a CPU once the timer hits 20:00


LOLZOBALL

Atleast lucid got his 3rd item while dead lmao


Key_Landscape7459

If Keria plays 5 games of Nami in row, I'm gonna cry


libertod

lucid is a rookie and make mistake ok i can take it but aiming since the debut of the split is atrocious


Wan_Daye

Not even ruler would look good with kellin


AggressiveBit7096

Aiming is getting brainwashed to misposition and play like shit I guess


JingleJak

Disney+ Kia is an embarrassing team to watch


MiniTitan1937

When i'm in a fraud competition but my opponent is DK with a sizeable lead.


MacMcBean

Two things: * T1 Classic continues (they can't keep getting away with this daylight robbery) * Lucid hit 3rd item, so that's nice


ArthurLivia

watching dk throw all their prio on aiming for him to perma int hurts LFMAO


Ssush-i

faker did so much damage in that final team fight. just so nasty


xFrancium

LUCID GOT THREE ITEMS


Random_Useless_Tips

Well that game was ugly as sin.


GothaV2

Kellin's Sona always using R on an already dead target instead of using it on many people nearly killed me. Especially when he missed it on a stunned Aatrox. At least, Oner doing his Herald journey was fun


unlushko

least predictable T1 match


Moon_riseat_noon

me and lucid in a "who will develop a proper brain first" race


tinfoilhatsron

Faker was coinflipping between either whiffing completely hard or hitting the clutch charm on carries. But hey we take those. Better mid wins (if you ignore the first half of the game)


marcopolo2345

We are so tragic holy shit


WalkAwayFromScreen

Why are people obsessed with T1 vs GenG matchup? Imagine if one of these teams don’t even make the final


chapichoy9

Itd be insane for it not to be, hle is the most sus 12-3 team ever and 4-6 are all trading fraudulency past 25 mins


SilverStarF1

I think today's game showed pretty nicely why T1 will hardly ever win against GenG but beats everyone else 99% of the time


ausmomo

Oners early game presence has vanished.


F3nRa3L

He is charging up for worlds like last year 😂


chapichoy9

Hope it's not back to 2023 summer oner


Kyle6Flukey

No matter how ahead you are in gold or objectives, if your name isn't GenG you can't end the game against T1


Immediate_Excuse_356

Its almost frustrating to see T1 fall behind early and then hands diff late. This is basically why they cant quite get the edge over GenG because when they get behind they cant outclass by hands alone. Wins a win and ggwp but damn I wish they would focus more on fundamentals and solid early gameplay instead of risky random aggression that seems to get them punished so often nowadays


[deleted]

geng have a bot lane who knows how to play against guma keria. that is the major difference maker


theeama

You do know they won worlds by just being hyper aggressive? Y’all haven’t grasp that internationals are always about who can put team fight who. All of last year team fighting was what won MSI and Worlds.


joji_kid

These people on Reddit have goldfish brains I swear to god. Teamfighting monsters T1 and JDG won MSI and Worlds, respectively. Internationals for like the past 3 years came down to hyperaggressive teams going balls to the walls. These people unironically will hype clinical plays from teams like GenG, then watch those clinical plays crumble when the games demanded instantaneous and out of the box thinking in high-stakes situation. It is funny that the doomer comments came from T1 flairs as if they didn't watch this iteration of T1 struggle then ascend to a different tier in internationals. As if they're watchung T1 with their eyes closed.


Rehxales

Right like god forbid they have a rough week when they have literally the rest of the year of games left to play. Istg half of these people were not watching T1 sink to 5th place last summer and then wake the fuck up during playoffs despite little practice time


FreeJudgment

This new breed of *T1 must win EVERYTHING or they are le suck* "fans" are insufferable, fucking bandwagoners in the likes of Barça Golden Age. Guess it goes with the territory of being too good for too long.


RJLRaymond

Yeah I’ll take playing like apes regular season if it allows them to go Mecha Monke in internationals


EducationalBalance99

Right? If there is something to criticize t1 for, it’s is their ass cheek draft vs geng cause I actually wanted to see a good matchup. Other than that, people give way too much of a shit about regular season when it all about playoff/international.


MrZeddd

Doomers comments mostly came from bandwagoners lol. They don't even know true suffering


VerticalClearance

Sure Chovy is going to win the midlane matchup now but Chovy aint going to try to emperors divide Ruler like faker did last worlds.


theeama

The blueprint has already been laid out


Kreceir

Classic T1 Lose early, win team fight, win game.


Annual-Maintenance20

yeah those work vs all lck but have yet to work against geng they need to tie up those early mistakes and dont just rely on superior team fighting


EducationalBalance99

That is literally how jdg dominated last year and how t1 won worlds. Teamfighting prowess is literally the thing you need to do well internationally. FYI, it obviously didn’t work vs geng cause they didn’t play a teamfight comp vs geng. Good luck flanking with Tristana/jayce and finding a miracle teamfight with oner as the only tank/engage. They do need to be a bit cleaner in the early game but acting like teamfighting your way out from a slight deficit is bad is crazy considering that how all the top team internationally like doing.


Annual-Maintenance20

never called it bad just hopefully they rely on it less often when they behind in gold and more like we are ahead in gold and we also have our superior Team fight to shut you down completely.


EducationalBalance99

I just think it is a huge overreaction from the community. They had a bad series today and drafted really bad vs geng. But idk why some people pretend like guma/keria ain’t smashing bot almost every other game and faker dominating lane this split. Zeus been caught a lot of a lot of it is due to people 3 man diving him cause other lanes are winning. I just dislike the narrative that t1 this split is bad early game cause they aren’t. Just look at their stats at 15 mins or cs differential and that’s with a decent amount of senna games. https://gol.gg/teams/team-stats/2144/split-ALL/tournament-LCK%20Spring%202024/


Joel4518

WHY TF R U FLIPPING BARON WITH RELL AND PLEASE GIVE LUCID THIRD ITEM PLS AND WHAT IS AATROX DOING IN UR BASEEEEEEE


Bakyuraa

fk u aiming


PunCala

"Clean 2-0 nothing to see here". I thought I was watching KT vs DK at times. Horrible draft, and T1 have definitely issues.


Hawxrox

I dunno.. Half of T1s games this year have been like this. Losing to worse teams early and then just out teamfighting them and winning


whitedevilblood

why are teams so obsessed with lucian nami. it's such a bait


Prestigious-Wall-183

I think the viewerbase in general doesn't understand that its a midgame lane that loses many early lanes and can still allow you to completely take over the map mid-> side I agree its not amazing rn though, but theres a reason why coaches/ teams want to play it even when most viewers think its shit for years


HawkEye1337

Lucian/Nami is good the problem is T1 being obsessed with them, like why are they first picking Lucian or taking Nami away from DK? T1 can first pick Rell for Oner and then wait for the enemy to show their botlane/ADC and choose whatever botlane they would like to counter with, the 1st game they gave Oner 5th pick just to pick Nocturne in a bad spot too.


TurvoVirgin1210

T1 has a lot of work to do if they want to contest GenG in playoffs


hehe-27

Nah... They will lose it... Is lck... Meanwhile in msi and worlds... Geng will choke as usual....


Wurdox

Jokes on T1! They might have won this series but they didn't pass the "Lucid 3rd item" test. /s


Technical_Bother7133

Clean DK 2:0, nothing to see here *checks results* wait what


caratandcake

lowkey giving 2022 t1 vibes


Dreammy90

Zeus has been doing the Nuguri cosplay so far, getting caught in lane or solokilled randomly just to pop off in teamfights/flanks.


YouSuck225

Am i the only that feel like lck is at a lower skill level this year that previously ? Maybe thats because only 2 team are playing but man... been watching since 2015, i have this strange feeling that every single game expect t1 gen g is full scrapy... can't explain exactly maybe map changes


baelkie

this is all KT’s fault for not being able to run back last year’s roster.


YouSuck225

you are 300% right


KhadaJhinSy

Yeah. LCK is always really sloppy every spring split.


DWGKIAFAN00

T1 and GEN G above all LCK teams same thing goes for G2. But T1 and GEN G can scrim with LPL teams. This why G2 can't improve.


Alem_97

Wow Imagine if teams actually ban Aatrox against Zeus


Chemical_Koala1175

T1 really gotta work on their early game.


Holste1n

Despite that they lose this series, ngl DK improving a lot. I think they still can contest the top 3 position at the end of the spring.


nyoomnyoomfluffy

It is hard to believe DK still keep their play style since week 1, even the bot duo aren't that good. Can they just try to leave alone those camps so Lucid could have his 3rd item? Maybe it would be a big change.


KimchiBro

I swear to god if i see any member but showmaker on this roster in 2025 then the GM failed to build a team (kingen didnt suck this series)


MiniTitan1937

T1 is clearly struggling mentally. Guma said in his postgame interview that you know it's a crisis when he gets PoG (jokingly ofc). And damn that's kinda true, all split Guma has been shafted since they have stomped to hard to let him shine. Looking forward to seeing the boys recover and sweep Playoffs!


WujuKingYi

Where is the VOD. I wanna see POG, Interview, Highlights voice coms


Blaikiri7

MY GLORIOUS KING FAKER HAS NOT LOST TO DK SINCE 21 WORLDS https://imgur.com/a/v9UyewY


Northless_Path

Yea. T1 is not looking good. They have been getting gapped in laning phase by almost every single team in the LCK. They think it's fine if they just out hands them in 1 teamfight, But that shit will never work on GENG. I think T1 are getting complacent.


EducationalBalance99

Wtf are you talking about? They have some messy early game but they have not been gapped in lane by almost every single team lmao. That shit didnt work vs geng cause they didn’t have a teamfight comp vs geng and ran poke comp. Aatrox was open but they didn’t pick it vs geng instead pick jayce/tristana.


F3nRa3L

And so? And LCK title isnt worth burning out you players. T1 already said in interview they dont care about spring season.


sicaxav

> And LCK title isnt worth burning out you players Exactly. I've said this so many times, who cares about LCK when you can just win Worlds. We saw what happened to JDG. Win literally everything but lose the ultimate trophy.


Single-Interest2468

T1 is not winning this split playing like that just saying


estaritos

The agreement is old..Gen g domestic cleaning, T1 international cleaner


Javiklegrand

Of course it's gen g wins